How does this little gun shoot so well? Shadow Systems CR920X review
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
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I started making this video and was bummed - this type of pistol just hasn't been exciting me lately. I didn't even put a red dot on it. Then I shot it. Then I bought a holster for it. The Shadow System CR920X made me a believer.
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dont know quite how we'll get a ridge into dad's urn. they tend to get upset when you start digging.
Cool! It's a good day when you're talking about a gun you like, when you didn't like it at first
The fact that they're pricing their mags competitively is nice. Foundation series will probably drop down to around $550ish. Might get one then.
For 800 I doubt it
@@ElJuan008 you're thinking of the elite. The foundation guns are cheaper. $599 currently
Great review. Anxiously waiting for the CR920X “P” comp’d version. Figure they’ll put it out in a few months once a bunch of folks buy the regular CR920X.
as a cr920p owner right now an x'd version of this would solve my only problem I have with this handgun that would be that longer grip with the comp especially with the added bonus added capacity, id pick one up immediately
I heard the cr920xp should be coming next month. Just a rumor though so who knows but i hope its true
Being dad is pretty much the only thing in life so far that hasn't been overrated.
Fair
David, throw the CR920P slide on the X frame and test that config. You know that SS next iteration. Thanks
They already made it you can buy one starting june its the CR920XP and its gonna be nuts
@@Swooptywoop Man, I just bought my cr920 elite last month and they solved the one issue I had with it; the grip
@@Swooptywoop they need to make an CR920XLwith a 48 length slide/ barrel.
Thanks HM!
I’m definitely going out to purchase one..Great video Brother 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Man. I'm really behind the times with my PPS M2. (But I shoot it so well!) Thanks for the share!!
Shadow systems is killing it right now
Not really. Out of the 3 Shadow Systems I saw at the range I worked at, 2 had issues that stopped the owners from depending on the gun for anything other than a range toy. Both happened to be DR920P's but the issues the owners were experiencing were different.
I'm not really jazzed about buying a gun that may or may not be reliable UNLESS it's significantly cheaper than the competition.
@@Osprey1994 everyone’s experience will vary
Getting an aggressively comped gun to work reliably requires a level of understanding a lot of people don’t have - it’s probably why Shadow has scaled back their compensator design.
A compensated gun is hard to make a casual gun - and I mean casual in the sense that most people who really like guns still don’t dive deep in understanding how to make them work to exploit a potential advantage.
I know a lot of people who sell 2011 open guns because the guns don’t work - but these people seem to have similar issues in other divisions on other platforms.
My Hellcat RDP with the comp works great...
@@Osprey1994yep. I had an mr920 last year and it had failure to feed and failure to extract almost every mag. All sorts of different ammo tried with it and none worked. Just last week I decided to give it another shot and picked up a dr920p. It has the same issues. Stove pipes, failure to extract, failure to feed. Happens with Glock mags and every ammo I’ve tried. Even tried the lighter spring it shipped with and that didn’t fix anything. It’s also past the “break in” period and it’s still doing it. My thought is, if you’re gonna make a Glock clone it oughta be able to at least run like a Glock. Both shadows I’ve had have failed horribly to do so. I’m getting rid of it this week and will not be giving them another shot.
I'm sure it's great, and I know I'm going to be called a poor for this, but you can build out a micro dagger with an apex trigger, ported slide/barrel and optic for literally half this price. Having done that, I'm sure this is a higher quality firearm, but I can't imagine it's twice as good based on how well my build shoots
Good point!
I mean, after watching how poorly the Micro Dagger performed against other pistols in the same size category...no thanks.
In all fairness, I don't live in the USA according to PSA, and they likely won't ship the Dagger parts to me even if they are legal to own. Just like they have refused to sell AR parts to residents of my state for the past decade even though they have been legal to purchase and own this entire time.
PSA can pound sand.
Micro daggers are light primer strike galore
Thankfully I just built mine out with OEM Glock internals
Shadow Systems saves a few steps but a used like new police trade Glock goes for around 450, a port/comp job and optics cut can be had for another 400 all in. I predict they’ll drop the price on the 920X when the comp version comes out
My SHIELD PLUS 9mm have around 7,000 rounds thru and NEVER had a hiccup. With every type and grain weight ive feed it. Even the HORNADY LITE.
Got it the month S&W released it and it was the best $550 i ever spent!!!!
Yeah , I need one too.
Great informative video! I am looking forward to the CR920XP! Thank you for the great content.
LOL i was just thinking put the comp on it
It’s okay Doppinter you can owe me that crisp high five
I own a war poets version. Trigger reset is great. Gun handles and runs great on first 200+ rounds so far. Still working on using the red dot. Never used one. We will see if it holds up. My Wilson Combat 45 has 6-7000 rounds thru it without a jam. The weight difference is incredible. 9 mm ballistics are pushing into 45 level penetration.
I bought a MR 920 the ( fancy one ) has the suppresser sights and I mounted a Trijicon rmr , best carring gun I own, I was carrying a Gen 5 19 or 19x I shelved em , im always carrying that MR920
How many rounds through the MR920? I've yet to see someone who shoots with a Shadow Systems. All the guys in the top 10 at the competition I went to yesterday were using Smith, 2011's (including myself), Glock, and Sig.
@@Osprey1994 so far probably 1300 rounds
Same here. I have an MR920 with an RMR and a TLR-7A. Runs great and carries more comfortably than my 320 or the DR920.
Thx man
What's a ducks favorite food?....Quackers.
Why did the duck get arrested?...it was on quack!
Ok. I have a glock 43x and a glcock 26 & 27. Personally I shoot the 26 & 27 better than the thun 43x. For some reason i feel like the 26 & 27 are more comfortable to carry.
Great review please keep them going.
Love the video and all the content!!
I love my cr920p. That's been my carry gun since they came out. I take one look at this and think that they should sell just the frame to be able to throw on the cr920p slide. That obviously requires an additional background check, but full firing grip, no chance of pinching the pinky on reload and 2 extra rounds!
I am a strong side carrier, so the standard 920 plus extendo's is about perfect. However, more options are cool!
Also, side thought, 15 rd mags plus a mag sleeve to go in the original 920 grip???
Shadow systems, you listening???
They make nice guns.
The CR920XP should be even better. You could probably take a CR920P upper and put it on that lower to get a CR920XP before it is released.
Yes you can except the CR920XP will have a full length dust cover so the comp sits flush
I laughed out loud at the CDL moment and recall telling you the story of how that load started the whole What's For Dinner thing.
Its failed everything I have tried it in that wasn’t hammer fired - I think the PX4 is all that will shoot it that I have tested
@@TheHumbleMarksman It runs in some strikers, I think the biggest challenge HCDL faces is the overall length is closer to .380 than 9mm and the share is so conical that hitting a feedramp with a near short-stroking slide (thanks to low energy) often results in poor feeding. It's somewhat like the early Fort Scott TUI rounds (2015 era), but Fort Scott has found a way to fix that since then.
Would be great if you showed the grip difference side by side with the 13rd mag on the regular CR920, also should swap slides to create the ultimate carry setup with long comp slide and larger grip! Great video thanks!
I shoot my 43x every bit as good as my full size guns. Not surprised you shoot this gun well.
I wish they made a longer barrel version and even a comped version, for improved ballistics/recoil and it's plenty comfortable to carry such a gun appendix.
It’s already been announced. You’ll see 100 people with nothing to do clamoring about it on every comment section for this gun.
*Nice, but I am not into micro baby guns. My preferred minimum barrel length is the subcompact at 3.5", where a 4" compact or higher is my personal preference to carry. I seek to carry the largest, not the smallest handgun possible.*
I’m really loving the 4 inch M&P Shield Plus optic ready. 15rd mags but so thin. Probably thinner than this. so easy to conceal with no sacrifice
@@TransformersHoarder manly.
I'm here for the dad jokes haha. That pole joke is S+ tier!
I was hoping you’d throw that CR920P slide/comp on the X grip to see how it would shoot and also to see what Shadow Systems will release next 😊
Thanks for this great review, happens that I have a chance to shoot with this gun... one thing I don't like is the trigger pull (almost 6.5 lbs...) why manufacturers are making guns with trigger pull over 4 lbs.
you need a different holster, or one of them wedge things. that gun prints the way you have it.
I like the CR920 length a lot much rather have the 13rd mag length to carry. Big fan.
Been fishing for a proper dad joke, but just floundered.
I’ve kind of fallen out of the market for new carry guns. I have four that I rotate on no particular basis. A Glock 19 gen five, Walther PDPF four inch, Dan Wesson Guardian and a Shield Plus. I’ve mostly been carrying the Glock because I like the Holosun SCS on it. I was in my local gun store today looking a one of P365’s with the ported slide and aluminum frame. It was almost as large as my 19. Funny how trends run. Think I’ll just keep what I have.
nice video i think i wait on this one tell they come out with the comp one, i wonder if ramjet will make a comp for the 43 soon. Question when you test the gun do you use your reload or are those more for your match set up?
In these types of videos unless it's a competition gun I use factory ammo. This one was mostly the Igman 124 - but I tested 4 or so different JHP profiles through it as well.
Cool gun! I’m gonna a save my money for when they drop a “P” version
Excuse my ignorance, but what would the P version involve?
It’s out already
@@TransformersHoarder the p version would have a comp on the gun to help with recoil. Shadow systems seems to be adding that as an option for all their pistols.
@@Horvath0819 I’ve seen the cr920p which is a g43 size grip, but not to P version with a g43x/g48 size grip
@@TransformersHoarder The P model has a compensator. So many different models from so many different manufacturers it's confusing as hell. 🙄
Thanks for the content. Does the CR920P slide/barrel comp fit on the CR920X frame?
Would be great if they could rework the extended base pads on the original CR920 mags so it contours the same as the cr920x frame/grip
Kinda like the 12rd P365 mags turn a regular 365 grip into a X or XL grip.
Watching your videos before becoming a dad vs after becoming a dad is like Aragorn in the Two Towers vs Aragorn in Return of the King. I am suddenly overcome with a sense of BDE, if you will.
lol my videos always were post dad - just not aggressively so
How about a video comparing this with a P365X and other big micros?
True, thinking M&P9 Shield Plus
Could you show the 15rd mags in the cr920p?
Would love to see how it stacks up against the HK p30sks
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Can you try putting the cr920p slide on this frame? I hope they eventually come out with a cr920xp
Hi David! I can't decide between the Beretta 92A1 and the CZ-75 SP01 Shadow 1... I would like to choose a more reliable gun and one that will last longer. What would you advise me, since you have a lot of experience, what works reliably and what doesn't. Thank you very much for your time.
They both will hold up a long time - the Shadow doesn't have a firing pin block but the Beretta does. The grip on the Beretta is shorter than the Shadow. The Beretta will go longer between breaking springs for DA.
Liking the looks of this new configuration. I think they are also offering this in the Foundation series.
I'm all about the CRX, but the CRP shoots so flat I'll never be able to shoot the un-compensated version without missing the comp. Just looking forward to the extended mags with sleeve to use in my CRP.
You forgot to mention you can get the foundary series cr920x for about $600-650. The foundary series has all the most functional features of the shadow systems (same grip and optics cut) . Basically, the difference is the slide. The foundary series has less aggressive slide serrations, no top slide serrations, and no lightening cut in the slide.
I didn't forget - this video was about the CR920X
Humble Marksman did a video about the Foundation Series when they first came out, so he’s familiar with the features.
However in fairness to you, I was at the Shadow Systems Booth at the NRA Annual Meeting in Dallas, and yes there is a foundation series CR920X.😎✌️
In fairness to me - a gun showed up to my FFL and I had to ask for a sell sheet - we all learned more about the intentions with the gun from NRA!
@@TheHumbleMarksman My apologies for the confusion. I was stating it may be worth calling out that there is cr920x foundation series that is a couple hundred bucks cheaper than the cr920x elite you were reviewing. Regardless, great review.
@@TheHumbleMarksman more than fair enough. My intention was to clear up the confusion, about the availability of a Foundation Series CR920X, and certainly not to assume you are privy to every iteration of every model that Shadow Systems , or any other manufacturer, comes out with.😎✌️
I went with a Mako instead of the CR920. Any chance of a comparison?
Hey David, fellow Dad of sons here who regularly carrys a CR920. I’ve always had a bit of problems with the mags dropping during drills where as my MR920 mags fly out no problem.
How does the mag release work on the CR920x and since SS hasn’t released the specs, is the height slightly higher than the MR920?
Now put the CR920P slide on the CR920X frame and tell us how that feels
I PAID $799.00 FOR MY Elite. The Foundation series was $599.00
Wonder if it shoots softer then a p365 xl? But yeah great review! Thanks
You can swap the slide on those
Hello fellow dad!
Not being able to share the trigger pull weight is as stupid as if RUclips stopped allowing swing speeds for golf clubs or suction volume for vacuum cleaner reviews. Way to go YT. More idiotic standards.
I can - but it gets demonetized pretty much every time because their interpretation of hair trigger
@@TheHumbleMarksman - I’m with you brotha. Keep doing the awesome videos!
How does the stability and shootability compare to the 43X? I find the 43X very enjoyable to shoot.
🤚 A high five as crisp as the recoil of a sub compact with +p self defense load.
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Are people still on the small pistol craze?
small pistol craze started with the shield and the XDS
@@roaringsteelmediayeah, because small 380 and snub noise revolvers where never a thing before this craze. The heck with innovation.
I don't care for most of the embellishments, but the Foundations version looks appealing. Any thoughts on that versus the P365XL for 600 dollars?
Does anyone know if glock 43x mags, shield mags, and micro dagger mags work in the gun as well?
I always noticed that the logo is almost like the at home poop shooter test lol.
i need them to make a cr920px
Put it up against the SC10
Will the shield arms mag fit into the CR920X?
I didn’t hear you quote the actual barrel length or thickness?
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You need an outro on your videos. I keep trying to click the next one and it’s gone and RUclips is requesting something else before I get it. 😂
Noted - that’s a fair point
@@TheHumbleMarksman love the videos btw
How would you compare this with the Hellcat Pro?
So are these mags just rebranded Shield mags? Or are they made by Shadow Systems? I ask because I hear the Shield mags and even the Palmetto Dagger mags have pretty well documented reliability issues.
Shadow mags
Will that comped slide from the CR920P fit on the CR920X?
Yes
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I’m debating between this or the CR920P War Poet…Cant decide
Do you want a thick gun that’s a little more stable or a thin one that’s easier to carry?
@@TheHumbleMarksman I was looking for something easier to carry and conceal than my glock 19(has a threaded barrel)
Do those SS mags work in a 43x?
My question too!
Is the frame compatible with the standard CR920 slide?
Yes
I wonder if you can put a SS comp on there?!
Does the CR920 take the CR920X magazine?
Hated all the shadow systems I shot, xr920 was my first one. Everything about it just disliked. Traded in for a g19 and fell in love.
Does the CR920P slide work on this one?
Yup
@@TheHumbleMarksman Does it fit in the same holster (putting the CR920P slide on the X frame)?
@@TheHumbleMarksmanMay be a great follow up video if you get the chance. I am definitely curious about the shooting experience after watching this one.
Thickness matters more than just in how it carries….
Arnt they gen 3 guci glocks there exactly the same as a gen 3 think they whent right off glocks expired patent for gen 3 ?
This has way less thickness I would imagine
@@TransformersHoarder are they gen 3 internals?
✋🏾high five back
Less recoil than the px4 storm ? Which would you rather have ?
Depends how much you want to shoot versus carry
@@TheHumbleMarksman is the px4 storm carry a better option than the cr920x in your opinion, all things considered. I want a carry/home defense gun that I can do competitions and train with. I've been sold on the storm since your review last year but I'd need too spend 1600 with LTT to get it where I'd like, since they don't come optic cut.
@@kittykat7377 the PX4 is probably as close to a do all gun as you'll get. The CR920X is not a competition gun - great carry gun though. The PX4 is a thicker option if that bothers you - but it does shoot better.
Good review...never "got" the Ridge Wallet concept. Sticking an anodized piece of metal in my pocket that only holds credit cards that will beat up whatever it contacts with for $100 just doesn't appeal to my EDC needs...just my I guess.
Looks like a Glock must be a Glock. I have an MR920 with zev trigger kit, shadow system comp, crispy. It’s like shooting a Glock 19 with afterburner. I don’t use it anymore. 😅I use my 18 year old Glock19, zev hypercomp, or zev, long pistol. This pistol review for self defense and 7-10 yards good. Let is, finger.
The Glock 43X they should have designed and manufactured.
Will these mags work for the 43x or 48?
No
Does it carry better than the Shadow 2 Compact with brass grips?
It’s thinner and lighter - so that’s a mega “yes”
@@TheHumbleMarksman HAHA....Go Dawgs!
Wasn’t this on the cover of guns and ammo this month?
We all wanted to see the cr920p slide on the x frame….good review tho still
they need to sell their frames! My cr920 has had constant extractor issues i want a Glock slide and shadow frames for everything!
I’ve seen several people in the comments on other vids all mocking Glocks. However, they praise Glock clones. Weird.
Did you swap your P upper onto the X frame?
Not yet but thinking about it
@@TheHumbleMarksman I was totally expecting some “But wait, there’s more!” Billy Mays action 😂
How does the trigger compare to the trigger on the Glock 43X?
Similar
@@TheHumbleMarksman Wait, are you talking Glock's new performance trigger? Because that's supposed to pretty good.
Just go ahead and get you a Glock 48 and with the $400 you’ll be saving throw on a nice red dot optic tlr7 🤷♂️
How do you feel this pistol compares to the 43x? I hate the 43x lol
Haven’t shot one in a long time
@@TheHumbleMarksman How about vs the hellcat pro?
It prints a lot dude.
In that holster - in the new holster not hardly at all
isnrt the dagger micro half the price and do 90% of what this does?
Will it work with my S15 mags?
I will have to dig mine out and see