As a telephone technician I've worked inside of many of those homes and on those streets for over 20 years. I've never had any problems and have met so many nice people throughout. The conditions that have befallen the area are disheartening and hopefully things change somehow.
This would have been better if you said where you were in Youngstown and why the area is considered dangerous. From your video we can assume you mean old homes,, pot hole streets, and overgrown grass makes the area dangerous?
Just moved back from Columbus. It's not as bad as down there for sure. The schools suck and the buses don't show up so that really hurts the area in terms of families wanting to live there.
From the 5:00 to 6:45 i be over that way i know all the people over that way and alot of them is my family thats the upper northside heading towards the west side. 1 of my buddies owns most of those houses and has family in the rest. going up into the hills is another bold move frl always shooting all through there to. And that bar on the dead end at about 5:20 or sum like that my buddy owns that too he completely rebuilt it this back around when he first bought it before he did any work to it.
Bro, you really wanna show some sketchy stuff, you gotta be drivin around at night!! Not necessarily around neighbors like that, i wouldn't recommend that. But drive up n down South Ave, Midlothian, Glenview, Mahoning Ave. Drive past that Shell gas station on South Ave at night!! Its wild!!! Theres literally a party every night at that gas station and you're pretty much guaranteed to zee something pop off there!!
& it’s not dangerous.. just the hood. & the city doesn’t keep up w/ getting the grass cut or knocking abandoned houses down that’s why it looks so ran thru
The city is rightfully too afraid to cut the lawns or aid to these communities in fear of their own well being! The people destroy their community and pass blame to anyone else playing victim when they themselves are their own destructive
That one street ain’t even like that, he drove by my aunts house & every time I’m there I stay outside smoking on the front porch, I grew up in the 330, but Don’t get it twisted tho, people get tuned up all the time but it’s mostly because they have a problem w/ someone...Mind your business, & know where u at...
I've gotten about 10 minutes through and the most dangerous thing I've seen is you blowing through the first stop sign. Maybe you meant "most dangerous to your wheel alignment", as they do seriously need some road repair. Also, the video was apparently taken at 5 am on a Sunday in the summer, as there are almost no other people in the video. I lived in the Bronx and upper Manhattan in the '70's and early '80's. Where are the abandoned cars, the burnt-out buildings, beer and whisky bottles and fast food trash scattered everywhere? At 5 am people are still partying on coke and crack, right?
When you come to the Southside, hit streets off of Market St, South Ave and hit streets off of Glenwood💪🏾 Make sure you Stop by Shells on Avondale/Market St and just sit there🤣 You can make a channel just filming that gas station 🤣🤣
No joke! I moved away a few years ago but my family lives right up the street from that shell...ALWAYS something happening there. And samis quick stop, always got gun fire poppin off
I’m from Youngstown but I’m in South Carolina. We moved to the South since I been 12 and I’m 31 years old now. I try to tell my wife that Youngstown is tougher than any hood in Charleston but she don’t believe me 😂 I still have family on Glenwood, Portland Ave, and South Ave. 💪🏾
I've lived in Youngstown and IT IS a dangerous place. But amazingly SOMEHOW you DIDN'T SHOW IT. Try going out - AT NIGHT - to the places where crime actually (all the time) occurs.
I moved in 96. It's surprisingly cleaner for the eastside. As for the danger all I see are abandoned streets. The roads are much worse. I barely see anyone else on the road or outside. Where are the drug dealers on the corners?
I grew up on the West Side. Graduated from Chaney in 1977. I remember when the steel mill closed. Those were dark times for sure. Now Youngstown is just pitiful. The family i have that still lives there says there's really no good job opportunities, but they don't want to move
@@randymagnum143 it most certainly is. It’s a lovely place ( but don’t move to the east or south side. Every where else is beautiful. Home values have doubled if not tripled. If anything else it’s a good rental property investment. Or a nice flip in this seller market.
Thanks for posting. I long for a healthy Youngstown. I’m just old enough I saw the fall then the death then the decay and now the nothingness. It still boggles my mind
The most dangerous thing about this Youngstown that day, was that car literally disintegrating every time it hit a bumb....lol. There weren't enough people in that deserted town for it to be dangerous! That said, I spent some time in Youngstown in the early 80's, andI had fond memories of it. Shame to see it that way these days....but, that represents almost all small towns today.
Garland/Himrod.....I lived there as a kid but I see that the apartments are all gone now. Its been 40 years and I have never been back. Thanks for the upload.
My great great grandfather on my mother's side built a house at 1212 Arch Street back in ~1917. My great grandpa and my grandpa lived there. In 2000 it burned to the ground when it's current occupant fell asleep smoking a cigarette. Makes me sad--they're all gone now and I would have liked to see the place that they grew up and made memories.
@@Snowboy2015 that's how it is where I live in nw Ohio. When I first moved here everyone was telling me that I lived in a bad part of town. I was like 🤔 I left my garage door open all night and nothing came up missing, this ain't that bad😆
Great childhood memories growing up in the 60"s in the Brier Hill projects went to Tod Elementary. You drove down Dearborn street but did not drive thru the projects
this is soooo unreal!!!! I grew up here walked down these streeets as a CHILD 10 to 15 yres old could not be safer a little white kid yhem world has changed
I was born and raised in Youngstown on the Eastside Lincoln Knolls and it looked nothing like this! I moved to the Columbus Ohio area where there are jobs, growth and development! I only have a few family members still there and it's so depressing when I go to Youngstown for a visit! I wish the old Youngstown could come back but I don't see it happening. God Bless Youngstown! 🙏🏽❤️😪
11/21/21: WHERE ARE YOU? WHAT side of town? Wow, You must be driving in a HUMMER bcz no normal car 🚗 or truck could take such a beating. Those potholes and mother nature taking over the grass is what is DANGEROUS. ESPECIALLY: those potholes you’re plunging through. Was born & raised in Youngstown. I left in 1988 (moved to Hawaii).
Funny, the title don't match the quiet neighborhoods in this video. Seem like lots of large decent style stick homes and large yard spaces and not even a single soul out around on every turn of the streets. These houses do look super fancy compare to row houses, townhouses and mobile homes/ trailer parks in the neighborhoods that for sure!!
Carreteras DESTRUIDAS Y CASAS ABANDONADA Y EL GOBIERNO EN VEZ DE REGALARLAS A PERSONAS QUE LAS NECESITEN Y PUEDAN ARREGLARLAS PREFIEREN DESTRUIRLAS..ES LAMENTABLE
Useless trivia alert: at 430 on the right is an old gas station that was used in an early 80s movie All the Marbles starring Peter Falk. Met him whilst he was in town. Nicest guy.
Most of those areas you went threw are not bad areas ya the houses are run down but the people that live there are good people just because a house is run down doesn't mean it's a dangerous area. Your judging a area without living there. I live here and it's not bad yes there are bad areas but not the ones you have showed
Come on man. Most dangerous neighborhoods? I used to Uber in those neighborhoods. Most people are good. You want to live down there? All you need is a 9mm and a couple of pit bulls you can adopt from the dog pound. It's all what you make it.
If you're not Puerto Rican or black , you will not fit in on the east side . As the saying goes, anyone can come to Youngstown and lose their life no matter who you are
Yeah but it’s still got jems in the ruff. Like downtown. Mill creek park, peanut bridge. Wick park with all those big houses going up 5th. A ton of good food places. Especially Italian. I could keep going. Even if the yo is ruff I still love it.
MAN!! you should stage it with a single shotgun blast off camera or added in the continual noise of some sirens in the distance to this "Most dangerous neighborhoods" LOL
@@wolfie478 bro its all drug dealers and gang bangers. You dont wanna live here this the fucking hood . Boardman canfield Poland is nice which Is technically youngstown but not really
You passed by my cousin house on Eastside but like all my houses I lived in, it has been knocked down Check me out I gots all kinds of riding around Trumbull & Miohoning counties
Hey Iam been here for 4 years Iam looking for someone who’s been arnd the area for years and knows we’re all the people use to play football at and all the old football fields
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I visited many times, people say Youngstown is dangerous but have never seen any crimes. Actually people were very nice even to asian. Also, the data shows Youngstown is out of top 10 crime rates. Ao I think the city is pretty safe
WHY IS IT DANGEROUS?!!! Did not even see a single graffiti or trashed out lots for half of the video. LOOK NICE and PEACEFUL with LOTS OF TREES and GREEN SPACES. I prefer to live in this Youngstown than living in any borough of New York City or any where similar to the New York City set-ups. FORE SURE MAN!!
In the 90s definitely places you could not go after dark !!
As a telephone technician I've worked inside of many of those homes and on those streets for over 20 years. I've never had any problems and have met so many nice people throughout. The conditions that have befallen the area are disheartening and hopefully things change somehow.
I’m ALL IN on ur view of Ytown. 👏🤟 Ytown love to ya.
If you want to know anything about anyone ask a hometown tech! Lol
This would have been better if you said where you were in Youngstown and why the area is considered dangerous. From your video we can assume you mean old homes,, pot hole streets, and overgrown grass makes the area dangerous?
YEAH, I know.
Ha, watch the news, listen to the police scanner.
Nothing like Akron, and Akron is nothing like chitclogo, but stray bullet central.
Right cuz I'm from the city so I know wts up it is bad but this just shows property value is low lol
He's on briar hill it's not as bad as it use to be mostly abandoned and torn down now
The potholes though…hope your vehicle survived 😅. Thanks for the ride.
Just moved back from Columbus. It's not as bad as down there for sure. The schools suck and the buses don't show up so that really hurts the area in terms of families wanting to live there.
This definitely ain’t the worst area in Youngstown. Try Erie ave, Hilton, the brooks projects, some parts of DTH
crime rate in ytwon is steadily declining
Back in the day dealers would be standing on street corners wearing their pagers.
these are far from the worst neighborhoods..
From the 5:00 to 6:45 i be over that way i know all the people over that way and alot of them is my family thats the upper northside heading towards the west side. 1 of my buddies owns most of those houses and has family in the rest. going up into the hills is another bold move frl always shooting all through there to. And that bar on the dead end at about 5:20 or sum like that my buddy owns that too he completely rebuilt it this back around when he first bought it before he did any work to it.
Bro, you really wanna show some sketchy stuff, you gotta be drivin around at night!! Not necessarily around neighbors like that, i wouldn't recommend that. But drive up n down South Ave, Midlothian, Glenview, Mahoning Ave. Drive past that Shell gas station on South Ave at night!! Its wild!!! Theres literally a party every night at that gas station and you're pretty much guaranteed to zee something pop off there!!
What did you use to film your trip to Youngstown, a Yukon Gold or a Russet?
My home. Forever gonna love it. East Avondale 💕
Issa dumppp
Just delivered packages there today
Most of that is the east side and Rigby St, as q white boy I would not hesitate to walk around there.
& it’s not dangerous.. just the hood. & the city doesn’t keep up w/ getting the grass cut or knocking abandoned houses down that’s why it looks so ran thru
The hood = dangerous. It was labeled right.
hello,
what is story murder of 157 halls heights avenue Youngstown? the story happened in 70s or 80s .
@@sandram7941 if you can’t handle the heat, stay out the kitchen 😚
The city is rightfully too afraid to cut the lawns or aid to these communities in fear of their own well being! The people destroy their community and pass blame to anyone else playing victim when they themselves are their own destructive
That one street ain’t even like that, he drove by my aunts house & every time I’m there I stay outside smoking on the front porch, I grew up in the 330, but Don’t get it twisted tho, people get tuned up all the time but it’s mostly because they have a problem w/ someone...Mind your business, & know where u at...
I grew up in Ytown. Those streets, that green? Man, brings it back. Much love to the steel valley
Steel valley always baby
To bad this person does not say WHERE he/she is in Y-town. Dangerous potholes and high grass.
@@JESUSISLORDforever888 East Side / Southeast off of State St. / 422 and Wilson Avenue
I've gotten about 10 minutes through and the most dangerous thing I've seen is you blowing through the first stop sign. Maybe you meant "most dangerous to your wheel alignment", as they do seriously need some road repair. Also, the video was apparently taken at 5 am on a Sunday in the summer, as there are almost no other people in the video.
I lived in the Bronx and upper Manhattan in the '70's and early '80's. Where are the abandoned cars, the burnt-out buildings, beer and whisky bottles and fast food trash scattered everywhere? At 5 am people are still partying on coke and crack, right?
But bodies do be getting dropped off in these types of places
When you come to the Southside, hit streets off of Market St, South Ave and hit streets off of Glenwood💪🏾 Make sure you Stop by Shells on Avondale/Market St and just sit there🤣 You can make a channel just filming that gas station 🤣🤣
@@Gino1sm 🤣🤣🤣🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
You were closer to girard than any dangerous neighborhood you did however pick the worse roads to drive on
Frlllllll
No joke! I moved away a few years ago but my family lives right up the street from that shell...ALWAYS something happening there. And samis quick stop, always got gun fire poppin off
I used to mess around over on avondale right off market st...
What a shame. This shows Pride of Ownership over Rental property. Landlord's need to be held accountable
I’m from Youngstown but I’m in South Carolina. We moved to the South since I been 12 and I’m 31 years old now. I try to tell my wife that Youngstown is tougher than any hood in Charleston but she don’t believe me 😂 I still have family on Glenwood, Portland Ave, and South Ave. 💪🏾
What's Up Alan
@@phatdaddi69 what’s good 👍🏾
@@alanshaw6933 ...nothing much...just staying out of the way....
I grew up on the East Side of YO. My grandfather owns "Brownlee's Mower Repair" on McGuffy Rd. I used to help out there when I was younger
0:52 My man just went down S Garland. Good memories.
We use to call it la la land back in the day
@@stefanniewilson4134alot of people still do frl
West side,south side, worse than east or north side
I've lived in Youngstown and IT IS a dangerous place. But amazingly SOMEHOW you DIDN'T SHOW IT. Try going out - AT NIGHT - to the places where crime actually (all the time) occurs.
I moved in 96. It's surprisingly cleaner for the eastside. As for the danger all I see are abandoned streets. The roads are much worse. I barely see anyone else on the road or outside. Where are the drug dealers on the corners?
So many potholes.
I grew up on the West Side. Graduated from Chaney in 1977. I remember when the steel mill closed. Those were dark times for sure. Now Youngstown is just pitiful. The family i have that still lives there says there's really no good job opportunities, but they don't want to move
MAN this my dream to live in a large house with wide yard spaces between houses such as these houses in this neighborhoods.
Move to the yo baby (Youngstown).
Well, real estate is certianly affordable in these areas.
@@randymagnum143 it most certainly is. It’s a lovely place ( but don’t move to the east or south side. Every where else is beautiful. Home values have doubled if not tripled. If anything else it’s a good rental property investment. Or a nice flip in this seller market.
Thanks for posting. I long for a healthy Youngstown. I’m just old enough I saw the fall then the death then the decay and now the nothingness. It still boggles my mind
The most dangerous thing about this Youngstown that day, was that car literally disintegrating every time it hit a bumb....lol. There weren't enough people in that deserted town for it to be dangerous! That said, I spent some time in Youngstown in the early 80's, andI had fond memories of it. Shame to see it that way these days....but, that represents almost all small towns today.
They come out at night, dealing & shooting. The ER does a good business!
Was it Poppin in the 80s?
Doesn't look dangerous to me, just run down.
That's the problem with a lot of the cities, ran down streets
I moved away to join the army in 2005. This place could be beautiful with a little TLC.
I know man. But only 60k live here now. Of which 40k are below the poverty line. The peek population was 160k ish in the 1940s
Garland/Himrod.....I lived there as a kid but I see that the apartments are all gone now. Its been 40 years and I have never been back. Thanks for the upload.
Never been?
Me too been so long
Shit this was the good side of youngstown 😂😂😂
Yeah it was. My great grandparents grew up and met there.
My great great grandfather on my mother's side built a house at 1212 Arch Street back in ~1917. My great grandpa and my grandpa lived there. In 2000 it burned to the ground when it's current occupant fell asleep smoking a cigarette. Makes me sad--they're all gone now and I would have liked to see the place that they grew up and made memories.
Youngstown for life bryhill
I remember running red lights and not worrying about a cop seeing it, they understood
They still don't care
What the hell?😂 sounds like a post apocalyptic city
@@Snowboy2015 it almost is... next time I go thru I'll try to take a video, it's terrible
@@tysonthebengalcat7769 scary stuff. I live in CA where even the "ghettoes" look like middle class suburbs
@@Snowboy2015 that's how it is where I live in nw Ohio. When I first moved here everyone was telling me that I lived in a bad part of town. I was like 🤔 I left my garage door open all night and nothing came up missing, this ain't that bad😆
I live in Youngstown and these are far from the worst streets. These are pretty mild. The worst streets look like absolute shit
Haven't seen those roads in years. Will visit soon. Nothing like your hometown Ytown.
I've been wanting to go to Youngstown for a while now my favorite division 1-AA college team is the penguins and I'm from maine
Much love frm ytown homie.. I wanna check out maine!!!
All we do is guin baby. Go penguins!!!
Great childhood memories growing up in the 60"s in the Brier Hill projects went to Tod Elementary. You drove down Dearborn street but did not drive thru the projects
Ghost town now use to be the place to go
If it’s not Warren and hillmen then your good
this is soooo unreal!!!! I grew up here walked down these streeets as a CHILD 10 to 15 yres old could not be safer a little white kid yhem world has changed
I was born and raised in Youngstown on the Eastside Lincoln Knolls and it looked nothing like this! I moved to the Columbus Ohio area where there are jobs, growth and development! I only have a few family members still there and it's so depressing when I go to Youngstown for a visit! I wish the old Youngstown could come back but I don't see it happening. God Bless Youngstown! 🙏🏽❤️😪
Please tell us the names of the streets. I lived on the northsde near where where one of there Naples brothers was killed.
My friends great uncle was Sandy Naples
Is that Brier Hill Area by Girard/Liberty ?? Looks like it.
Going through the good ol west side!
looks like Ayers
This is sad for me to see ,it's where I once lived. A nice thing to see the house I lived in is still there and occupied NOT in disrepair.
The vehicle's shock absorbers are definitely working overtime with cracked surfaces and pot holes on all the streets.
I graduated from the old East High School. I do not recognize any thing in this video.
7:50 I call bullshit. That neighbourhood is not dangerous.. I lived there for almost 10 years on the North.
11/21/21: WHERE ARE YOU? WHAT side of town? Wow, You must be driving in a HUMMER bcz no normal car 🚗 or truck could take such a beating. Those potholes and mother nature taking over the grass is what is DANGEROUS. ESPECIALLY: those potholes you’re plunging through. Was born & raised in Youngstown. I left in 1988 (moved to Hawaii).
507 Dearborn St SE at 2:50
When the stop sign is upside down like that one does that mean you don’t have to stop?
Dangerous??? I’m confused 🤔. Looks abandoned and poor…not dangerous🤷🏽♀️
Compared to some of what's here in Cleveland, that didn't look so bad. But, I've never been to Youngstown, so I don't really know.
That's the East Side Youngstown area wich is not so bad, South Side Youngstown is a whole different story.
@@jeantorres4623 bro the east side is way worse ............
@Beanie Cugat II word !
Dude Cleveland is multitudes larger than youngstown what you expect
@Beanie Cugat II trumper 🤫
Northside...Westlake...welcome to the jungle..if u aint from round here get from down here!!
It looks so vintage,but clean.
Youngstown isn't clean 💯 n it anit vintage
This driver went from the North Side, just shy of Girard, to East Side, near Campbell, all hilly area, lots of side streets,,,,,
you said you want to fight me..
Lol on the upside down stop sign
This home boi I miss it I ain't gone lie
Didn't look all that dangerous. Just deserted, no one around. I don't think there was even 1 person in this video. Maybe it's a ghost town now?
This is dangerous? Really?
If you want to see dangerous, go to north Philadelphia or Camden, NJ.
Funny, the title don't match the quiet neighborhoods in this video. Seem like lots of large decent style stick homes and large yard spaces and not even a single soul out around on every turn of the streets.
These houses do look super fancy compare to row houses, townhouses and mobile homes/ trailer parks in the neighborhoods that for sure!!
Carreteras DESTRUIDAS Y CASAS ABANDONADA Y EL GOBIERNO EN VEZ DE REGALARLAS A PERSONAS QUE LAS NECESITEN Y PUEDAN ARREGLARLAS PREFIEREN DESTRUIRLAS..ES LAMENTABLE
Useless trivia alert: at 430 on the right is an old gas station that was used in an early 80s movie All the Marbles starring Peter Falk. Met him whilst he was in town. Nicest guy.
I saw my grandmas house my house and more of my familys house😮
Doesn’t look dangerous it just looks poor and abandoned. There’s literally nothing going on outside lol.
We put them mf tracks down on gypssy yehhh nigga yehhhhh get sum
Homie don't go down "No Outlet" streets!
Or MLK Blvd.
Most of those areas you went threw are not bad areas ya the houses are run down but the people that live there are good people just because a house is run down doesn't mean it's a dangerous area. Your judging a area without living there. I live here and it's not bad yes there are bad areas but not the ones you have showed
Erie ave is my hood 5150 piru love my hood
Why don't you try zooming in on Street Signs since you're unable to speak 🙄
I lived in all those hoods
Says backyardSky of Ytown
Come on man. Most dangerous neighborhoods? I used to Uber in those neighborhoods. Most people are good. You want to live down there? All you need is a 9mm and a couple of pit bulls you can adopt from the dog pound. It's all what you make it.
EAST SIDE STRONG FOREST STREET FOR LIFE
EL COSTO DE VIDA AUMENTA..PERO UNO NO VE ARREGLOS
Lived out here when I was a kid. 904 Shehy in the house.
157 hallas
If you're not Puerto Rican or black , you will not fit in on the east side . As the saying goes, anyone can come to Youngstown and lose their life no matter who you are
No one fw the east side 🥱
I grew up on the eastside and i never felt out of place i love the eastside
Lo poco que uno gana es para arreglar el automóvil de tantos hoyos que hay....QUE HACE EL GOBIERNO? QUE HACEN CON EL DINERO PARA ARREGLAR CARRETERAS?
You got my grandma house in the video at the end bro
I got family in the yo and I must say, it's pretty much a dead end town🤷♂️
Yeah but it’s still got jems in the ruff. Like downtown. Mill creek park, peanut bridge. Wick park with all those big houses going up 5th. A ton of good food places. Especially Italian. I could keep going. Even if the yo is ruff I still love it.
Whats the danger ? I'm watching your video. I haven't seen a soul. The danger is them streets to the undercarriage of your car.
MAN!! you should stage it with a single shotgun blast off camera or added in the continual noise of some sirens in the distance to this "Most dangerous neighborhoods" LOL
I live in Youngstown ohio and its not really bad here
U just live in the good part lmao
the areas that are bad now are the lower west side, & Southside Cottage Grove, Lansingville
What’s the average cost of a home or apartment? Where do most people work?
@@wolfie478 bro its all drug dealers and gang bangers. You dont wanna live here this the fucking hood . Boardman canfield Poland is nice which Is technically youngstown but not really
KEEEEEP tellin Urself that
Bru there was just a shooting at Wilson at a little league game
East side truesdale Avenue
You passed by my cousin house on Eastside but like all my houses I lived in, it has been knocked down
Check me out I gots all kinds of riding around Trumbull & Miohoning counties
Hey Iam been here for 4 years Iam looking for someone who’s been arnd the area for years and knows we’re all the people use to play football at and all the old football fields
"Nice and creative Videos，I can see A lot of thought has been put into the content and editing of the video， This is really my favorite channel.:) .🌴🌴🌴excellent 👍👌👍👌👍 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 " Mahoning ohio
2021
Annoying hitting pot holes on purpose. Kick rocks lame
I visited many times, people say Youngstown is dangerous but have never seen any crimes. Actually people were very nice even to asian.
Also, the data shows Youngstown is out of top 10 crime rates. Ao I think the city is pretty safe
5:59 9:
Wheres the danger ? Whats dangerous ?
No audio? What crap!
This is mostly the way all of Youngstown looks. How is this neighborhood any more dangerous than any other?
Local news WKBN weekly reports of shootings, drive bys, South side mostly . I live on North side near Main hospital.
most of this looks to be in Lansdowne & Brier Hill
WHY IS IT DANGEROUS?!!! Did not even see a single graffiti or trashed out lots for half of the video. LOOK NICE and PEACEFUL with LOTS OF TREES and GREEN SPACES. I prefer to live in this Youngstown than living in any borough of New York City or any where similar to the New York City set-ups. FORE SURE MAN!!