Configure WiFi Router as a Repeater! Connect two WiFi Routers Wirelessly!

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
  • Maximize your WiFi coverage by wirelessly connecting WiFi routers! This quick guide, will show you how to upgrade the firmware of old WiFi routers, transforming them into effective repeaters or extenders. Enhance your internet experience by extending the reach of your WiFi network with ease.
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  • @torogipro
    @torogipro  5 лет назад +38

    Don't Forget to Subscribe Like and share my videos!

    • @CollosalTrollge
      @CollosalTrollge 4 года назад

      hi , how do i do this if i have a d-link router connecting to pldt router.
      i do not have my pldt router password but i am assuming this doesnt matter, so long as it gets internet already.
      i dont see the section that operation mode, maybe its different on d-link.
      Appreciate if u can come back to me?

    • @emmanuellenavales5860
      @emmanuellenavales5860 4 года назад

      Hi sir i have Globe Tattoo B315s-938 and i cannot find any firmware for it. Can you help me plss. Do we have any alternative?

    • @prashantgautam9234
      @prashantgautam9234 4 года назад

      It does not work bro

    • @michapiechalak1189
      @michapiechalak1189 4 года назад

      Michał Piechalak 7

    • @Anjif
      @Anjif 3 года назад

      @@CollosalTrollge ko sa mga gantong r uni ako rt5tttt na lang po ako sa adopt a baby boy friend ko na lang po ako sa adopt a baby boy friend ko na

  • @mainormurillo7254
    @mainormurillo7254 4 года назад +44

    The funny thing about posting stuff in RUclips is that You never know the impact of someone knowledge to the person in need of it, thanks a bunch!

  • @beef0rtress
    @beef0rtress 3 года назад +1

    Was thinking to sell my old router and get a wireless repeater. Finally found this vid. Thanks so much bro!

  • @avadhootishtake6245
    @avadhootishtake6245 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! Very simple and straightforward explanation. Now I can easily extend my wifi signal to the 2nd floor without the hassle of LAN cables.

  • @manishpramanik3341
    @manishpramanik3341 4 года назад +7

    Thanks a lot. In midst of gibberish finally found something relevant I was looking for. Also demonstration is to the point and not boringly lengthy. Thumbs up.

  • @japanijoota6190
    @japanijoota6190 Год назад

    was stuck because I did not disable DHCP server of non root router. Now things make sense. You saved me from spending some bucks, thanks.

  • @joo7454
    @joo7454 4 года назад +55

    5:02 starts for old routers.

  • @jessarce
    @jessarce 4 года назад +7

    Another great tutorial! This is just what I needed. Now I don't have to waste much money on buying cables to extend my WIFI. Double Thumbs Up! However, ddwrt has a very limited router firmwares. Hope there are other firmwares we can use to make use old router! Thanks!

  • @funp2154
    @funp2154 2 года назад +1

    Thanks so much for clarifying on how to set up the router as a extender with out running cables 👍

  • @sidharthmail1
    @sidharthmail1 3 года назад +2

    I tried so many videos, this was a perfect one.

  • @MajidOfficial-uc2yp
    @MajidOfficial-uc2yp 3 месяца назад

    after long time i see one video which is very informatic , thanks

  • @ukirfan
    @ukirfan 2 года назад

    excellent explanation for old router upgraded as repeater. thanks

  • @alingondrozario
    @alingondrozario 5 лет назад +9

    It really helped me to update my W-LAN Router Firmware. Thank you so much.

  • @PrashantNagar333
    @PrashantNagar333 4 года назад +1

    Dear
    Like your work. Will check is it working or not on my old Routers..
    Your introduction

  • @LutfurRahman-u6v
    @LutfurRahman-u6v Год назад

    A super like 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
    Worked like magic

  • @soaale4841
    @soaale4841 5 лет назад +1

    mayat man kabayan ta videom. informative. maaramat ko diay old router mi nga repeater. salamat..

  • @GeorgeAlcantara-vw9kr
    @GeorgeAlcantara-vw9kr Год назад

    thanks for your help beforehand
    i want to add linksy velop mesh to repeater router

  • @videophile222
    @videophile222 3 года назад +2

    Thank you. Very well explained.

  • @AM-dn4lk
    @AM-dn4lk 3 года назад +1

    This was awesome. Thank you for a great tutorial. I am doing this!

  • @QTechman
    @QTechman 2 года назад

    thank you man i like you video you explain
    very good😀👍

  • @rajkumarravindrasawantrk69
    @rajkumarravindrasawantrk69 2 года назад

    Thanks dude, you just saved some of my money. I was going to purchase a LAN cable to do this thing. 😊❤

  • @GaelyneGasson
    @GaelyneGasson 2 года назад

    Thanks! Took notes and plan to set this all in motion tomorrow! And I subscribed too!

  • @MrDylanSainsbury
    @MrDylanSainsbury 24 дня назад

    Awesome video thanks!

  • @Nordbiene
    @Nordbiene 4 года назад

    Really GREAT. Thank You so much! Best regards, Kai from Kiel (Germany)

  • @dcv1979
    @dcv1979 5 лет назад +1

    Sala-salamat padli! Mayat tapnu mausar ko tay daan nga Linksys ko. Keep it up padli! 👌🏽

  • @DxV04
    @DxV04 Год назад

    Exactly what I was looking for!

  • @mohammedalgomaty2173
    @mohammedalgomaty2173 Год назад

    Thank you very much. This was the best tutorial

  • @biashacker
    @biashacker 3 года назад

    Hey man thanks for this information. I am in Africa and this really helped me out a lot. One of the problems I had with my mofi is that I had to change a numeral in my IP router (repeater) address so it did not match the SSID signal router I was trying to repeat. Great information. Keep up the good work.

  • @mikeallover
    @mikeallover 4 года назад

    I liked your google home page map!

  • @MrVipulLal
    @MrVipulLal 2 года назад +1

    Good tutorial, mate. Thanks!

  • @amirtaba8600
    @amirtaba8600 4 года назад +2

    Useful,simple and easy to understand. Great content Sir,Thank you

  • @johnpatrickrodriguez9619
    @johnpatrickrodriguez9619 6 месяцев назад

    May I ask, if I use LAN cable and connect it to the router repeater, can I also get connection?

  • @subhashbhojwani8976
    @subhashbhojwani8976 Год назад

    Great video again - thanks for the clear explanation. Unfortunately there is no DDWRT firmware for my old router version.

  • @edwardnarag3676
    @edwardnarag3676 2 года назад

    Ayu iman mayat. Tnx man

  • @CLCinflorida
    @CLCinflorida 4 года назад +1

    Torogi, I love your Awesome Tutotial Videos, I just wish you wouldn't have so many Cups/Pots of Coffee before you record 😉😂
    Can you tell us where the other end of the Cables are plugged into... are they plugged into a Modem 🤔
    I'm an old lady trying to figure it out... 🤗👍

  • @amevangelistapaf27
    @amevangelistapaf27 3 года назад

    Hi can you make a tutorial about making the old pldt fibr router

  • @jeffroberts2845
    @jeffroberts2845 4 года назад

    Worked like a charm. What is the App that you use to test it with?

  • @PSVPK
    @PSVPK 7 месяцев назад

    No option of repeater mode in tp link Archer c80 model... Any other way to set it up?

  • @jianxiongRaven
    @jianxiongRaven Год назад

    So the wifi repeater can be used a switch right?
    Since it has a switch built in

  • @cousin974
    @cousin974 2 года назад

    Hi mate 👋👋,
    Thx for the video. Question please pertaining to your first option : do you need to connect permanently the second router via a cable to your main router or is it wireless as well between main router and the repeater bcoz I want to install the repeater in another part of my house... Thx in advance. Cheers

  • @michaelchaves3033
    @michaelchaves3033 2 года назад +1

    Oustanding explanation and demo

  • @udayparthiv6778
    @udayparthiv6778 5 лет назад +11

    Ddwrt doesn't have my router. It's TC7200.d1l, how do I find my firmware upgrade?

  • @africanqueenproject
    @africanqueenproject 5 лет назад +3

    Great job of explaining things .. I subscribed .. but could you slow down just a bit in future videos when your going thru the configuration steps on your computer ...

    • @beaviver15
      @beaviver15 4 года назад +1

      Yes, that would help me as well. I also had trouble hearing this video. It was much more quiet and the sound not nearly as clear as the first one I watched of yours. I appreciate your dedication to helping others by sharing your knowledge. Thank you for being so generous with your time.

  • @micp6029
    @micp6029 Год назад

    where was the other end of the yellow ethernet cable connected to? I am trying to do this on my linksys router

  • @deermvlogs
    @deermvlogs 2 года назад

    Kaboses niyo sir si sir bermor

  • @jamesharris3192
    @jamesharris3192 4 года назад

    Thanks you are really clear and give maximum information to sorting this for me. I could do with you being a little slower but hey I am slow Joe. Brilliant vid keep it up..

  • @rafaelruiz8194
    @rafaelruiz8194 2 года назад

    Hi could you possibly make a video on how to set up ddwrt as repeater bridge and all the other functions like client bridge client etc. and show that the internet is actually working? At the end of the video it didn’t show the internet Thank you

  • @Odinson1604
    @Odinson1604 4 года назад +2

    I like your shirt. Love the vid too. Mad love from NZ

  • @hamzaasar5929
    @hamzaasar5929 5 лет назад +5

    Hello, i followed all of these rules but i really couldnt understand them well, my router is a Tenda and its been factory reset, i want to use it as a repeater and my main router is a Huawei and it used Vodafone Fibre, i dont have any long Ethernet cables in my house but i have short ones to connect to my laptop and stuff. Is there a chance if i make all of these configurations then remove all the lan cables then put my router somewhere else in my house that it will work?

  • @ethanhunt_za
    @ethanhunt_za 5 лет назад +1

    On the secondary router that you use as a repeater will you be able to use the ethernet ports and connect it to a pc to use the internet

  • @youtubebrowser1730
    @youtubebrowser1730 6 месяцев назад

    hi i connected two routers but the repeater is not connecting to internet with another router

  • @MajidOfficial-uc2yp
    @MajidOfficial-uc2yp 3 месяца назад

    i have router tp-line model TL-WR886N But i could not found and firmware, can you help me out to get this one

  • @SeanKirstenRealty
    @SeanKirstenRealty 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so much. Your tutorial made my day. Keep sharing

  • @chooch1353
    @chooch1353 5 лет назад +5

    Hey! Thanks for the video. What about performance ? How much does it impact on bandwidth/speed ?

  • @ryenis
    @ryenis 2 года назад

    will I able to access the ip configuration on the repeater if the IP web search is blocked on the main router (context: school dorm wifi) I want to add a wifi extender (tp link) but I think the wps button has been disabled

  • @dariusEMPEROR
    @dariusEMPEROR 4 года назад +5

    after you finished setting up the repeater, can you disconnect it and have it communicate with the master only trough wifi and still be a repeater? thanks!

  • @vgopalt4922
    @vgopalt4922 4 месяца назад

    Good Video👋connect another router to main router wirelessly👋
    But ISP will provide their own branded routers.
    In My case:
    Jio Fiber ISP router and D-Link (DIR-816 Dual Band) as repeater connected wirelessly fine but when power fails (no UPS) @ My Jio Fiber router side, when it's restart, all my configuration gone. Again I need to reconfigure all the time when power fails @ ISP side. Where as power fails at D-Link side nothing will happen and automatically connecting.
    Any solution for Power failure @ ISP router side (no UPS)
    Let me know any solution (Please Don't say UPS at main Jio router) if your main router switch OFF/ON, will it reconnect automatically?🤝

  • @1miltond
    @1miltond 5 лет назад +1

    Sr you are good thank you for you time and video

  • @gremararida8459
    @gremararida8459 2 года назад

    Question what is the radius of tgis router/ repeater? What is the distance i mean. Ive been needing to set up a repeater outside the house

  • @arvinbriones4032
    @arvinbriones4032 2 года назад

    sir did you have a tutorial about pppoe ?

  • @dallaspilotcar9293
    @dallaspilotcar9293 4 года назад +1

    Great video . Thank you for explaining in detail

  • @moreydumo5925
    @moreydumo5925 5 лет назад +2

    thank you sir! nakasuro ak manen...

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад +1

      Welcome amigo.

    • @moreydumo5925
      @moreydumo5925 5 лет назад +1

      sir question lang. pag nagpalit ng password yung main router automatic ba na magpapalit din yung bridge router? or manually mag setup din ng password?

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад +1

      @@moreydumo5925 manually na setup mo bro.

    • @moreydumo5925
      @moreydumo5925 5 лет назад +1

      @@torogipro ok sir! thank you manen! \m/

  • @Toyotacall
    @Toyotacall 2 года назад

    Hi. You talked showed us to set the second router up as a REPEATER and then all of a sudden you change to WiFi BRIDGE. I am confused now.

  • @danabarnes4751
    @danabarnes4751 5 лет назад +3

    Cool! I'll give this a try. Thank you

  • @RamachandraBK1248
    @RamachandraBK1248 2 года назад

    Hi, I have a delink DSL-224 wireless old router. I cannot see operation mode selection you are talking about. Can you help?

  • @itsJeaaan1
    @itsJeaaan1 4 года назад +1

    I’m having trouble to update mine. At 7:50 i’d be uploading the software but maybe 1% in it gives me an error. I’m not sure to which wifi I should be connecting. Because my main router is from pldt, and my repeater is linksys. And the firmware page switches to the pldt one (which i dont want), but if i click my linksys router it just doesnt upload because it doesnt have internet.. I’m a little confused there on what to do

  • @buckseyboy
    @buckseyboy 2 месяца назад

    I have a burning question can I connect my ps5 to the router that’s in repeater with a Ethernet cable to have wired ps5 connection??

  • @Fundaykidzz
    @Fundaykidzz 2 года назад

    Great video .. is the ddr wrt Safe firmware .. not hacking software ?

  • @DKDaniel244
    @DKDaniel244 2 года назад

    question: Does all old router like huawei can be a wireless repeater? bcoz I cannot see "GAN4PT and HG6245D" from dd-wrt site and I cannot see another open datebase site to configure my router. I hope you will answer.

  • @explorewithping5757
    @explorewithping5757 3 года назад

    for some reason, my upgrade failed. i followed the steps downloaded the firmware, and it failed. do i need to do soemthing with the routher before upgrade? like reboot?

  • @bommidala
    @bommidala 5 лет назад +3

    Hi, Thanks your videos are crisp and very clear. Can you please make a video on how to add a paid vpn service like HMA etc to a router. Many Thanks.

  • @tristandimitrijev3195
    @tristandimitrijev3195 3 года назад

    How do i conect a roof antena to a roter, to have internet for pc and smarphone

  • @ramonadolese97
    @ramonadolese97 4 года назад

    Please help. My Android phone hotspot only allows 1 device to connect at a time. I thought by getting a router I could connect the hotspot to the router, Belkin N150, then connect other devices to router. Well, I'm chasing my tail it seems. I can't get it to work. I feel I'm missing something in configuring it. Any advice?

  • @ronan1me
    @ronan1me 4 года назад

    if your router is not in ddwrt can we still do the wireless repeater? my doesnt have the option for wireless repeater option in its setting

  • @theseogeek
    @theseogeek 4 года назад

    hmmm, i don get the repeater bridge option in the drop down menu

  • @train4905
    @train4905 4 года назад

    thankyou so much indeed sir.this has helped me loads,a superb video sir .

  • @paulojmgama5477
    @paulojmgama5477 4 года назад

    HI how would I do this wirelessly using a Huawei B612 as the main and a Huawei B315s as the wireless range extender? Please help

  • @terbanz015
    @terbanz015 Год назад

    Hi Sir, I've followed the video and configured my old router as shown but I cannot see same SSID broadcasted, it's still showing the main PLDTfbr router. Is it the problem with my main router? I saw some video that WDS bridging should be enabled from the main router which I cannot found on my pldt router.

  • @eddieboymendez5829
    @eddieboymendez5829 5 лет назад

    Maddi met jay wrt20n nga cisco, agbalin no isetsetup no inidepmon awanen di na ammon jayn IP address sen. Aw sayang naka subscribe nak kon. Good job very informative kabayan

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад

      Baka madi mu met naisave config mu kabayan. Try mu factory reset manen tas reset up mu.

    • @eddieboymendez5829
      @eddieboymendez5829 5 лет назад

      @@torogipro sige try ko thank you

    • @eddieboymendez5829
      @eddieboymendez5829 5 лет назад +1

      @@torogipro Wen sadly when I went to the forum of wrt20n me issue talaga ung unit. hunting nga ako ng unit hahaha babahay bahayin ko mga kapatid lukin for old routers

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад

      @@eddieboymendez5829 haha. Kung malapit ka sa akin meron akong router hehe

  • @Obenfiquista81
    @Obenfiquista81 Год назад

    I can't make make old TP-Links routers wortk as repeaters or acess points. I did everything right, but it just won't sent the iternet on the wifi.

  • @techwolfcave
    @techwolfcave 2 года назад

    PLDT old router, specifically the baudtec ones is hard to bridge to my asus router.

  • @233178033
    @233178033 2 года назад

    I have the E2000, I downloaded the dd-wrt. When I downloaded the top file like you did & tried to install it at the end it said download failed, so I downloaded Factory flash 7,25MB & installed it.
    As soon as I save to DHCP Forwarder & put my main IP address in, it says your connection was interrupted. The only way I can get back into my router is to reset the router back to dd-wrt.
    What is the difference between repeater & repeater/bridge
    Please help

  • @mohsinrauma
    @mohsinrauma 2 года назад

    My netis wf2411 router support repeter function but whenever I used as a repeter the fi network shows no internet pls help me after a reset it's work once but after that sem problem

  • @blessed-favored
    @blessed-favored 2 года назад

    Loved it. Thank you.

  • @ujjawalkumar9819
    @ujjawalkumar9819 4 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot bro.....
    We need you most....

  • @IThinkICare
    @IThinkICare 5 лет назад +1

    Just to be clear, because there are many "terminologies" . Your extender has a "media adapter" feature. The difference between that and the repeater is that the repeater is wifi only. (full discloser, I didn't watch the rest of the video) so with regular routers, can't go line - wifi - wifi - line. Correct?

  • @shobanbabu124
    @shobanbabu124 3 года назад

    How to revert back to orginal firmware?
    I want to connect one router and another AP without cable so Is it possible to connect wirelessly(without using lan cable)?

  • @chartfix
    @chartfix 4 года назад

    i hv upgraded to vdsl fm adsl.. the wifi range on vdsl router in not adequate. Can i use my old adsl router as access point asper abv instructions?

  • @PAWANSHARMA-dk5hv
    @PAWANSHARMA-dk5hv 4 года назад

    Should we use old 3g wifi dongle as for wifi repeater???

  • @briankeith1007
    @briankeith1007 5 лет назад +1

    Nice video, when you convert the second router to repeater do you have to use the ethernet cable?

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад +3

      No. They will connect wirelessly.

  • @regiemagallanes4841
    @regiemagallanes4841 2 года назад

    my old router is Globe GAN4PT is there a way that i can also make this one as a wifi repeater without LAN?

  • @dranrebgarcia6471
    @dranrebgarcia6471 4 года назад

    Hi Torogi Pro,
    I upgrade my router. My new router is now working and its better that the old one. But the problem is, my old router has a “phone” port where our landline was connected and the port is the small one, I think its RJ 11 and not an ethernet cable. And I still want to use our landline because we are still paying subscription and my mom and dad are still calling on that landline.
    My new router does not have that “phone 1”, “phone 2” ports at the back. It only has the 4 ethernet port and the WAN or Internet Port where the modem of internet service provider and that’s is. I want to use the old router as and extender/repeater and also to connect the phone landline.
    My question is, will the landline still work when I hook up the landline to the “phone” port of the old router after I configure it as an extender/repeater?
    By the way, our internet was previously a DSL when that router with “phone” port was bought. And the subscription includes phone landline that’s why the router has phone port. And then we upgrade to fibre optic without upgrading the router. The phone line still works.
    I tried to configure the old router to use as repeater and also hook the landline but no access. It would be very much appreciated if you could please teach me what to do. Thanks.

  • @uphill248
    @uphill248 4 года назад +1

    What’s the difference between access point and repeater? I’m just trying to get Wi-Fi on my old modem without ethernet cable.

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  4 года назад

      Repeater does not need cable to rebroadcast the wifi signal.

    • @uphill248
      @uphill248 4 года назад

      Thanks for the reply. It seems like all these videos are for routers only? Does this works for Modem the same way? Also using a repeater does that bring down the Signal or the speed of the internet?

  • @vivianserrao3534
    @vivianserrao3534 4 года назад

    Sir how long we can use lsn cable 100 is ok?

  • @UnWrittenKatsu
    @UnWrittenKatsu 5 лет назад +4

    So with all of this am I capable of plugging in this router anywhere in my house that has a wireless connection to my main router/modem?

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад +4

      yes amigo

    • @hardtokill15
      @hardtokill15 5 лет назад

      @@torogipro Without having the second router connected via ethernet cable?

    • @torogipro
      @torogipro  5 лет назад

      @@hardtokill15 yes bro

    • @sailebarts5300
      @sailebarts5300 4 года назад

      @@torogipro will this wireless repeater have slower connection than the one connected via ethernet cable? Or will it have the same speed? Hoping you would anseeer 🙏

  • @padmeshjain1736
    @padmeshjain1736 4 года назад

    Hey i have DSL 2370U router so how can I make that router as repeater ?

  • @ilhyanfernando6101
    @ilhyanfernando6101 4 года назад

    i did exactly what you did with the e2000 because i have the same one but firmware upgrade failed. did i just brick my router?

  • @allengower669
    @allengower669 4 года назад

    Hi Is the following possible to achieve please ? My main router is Vodafone and my old router is DLink dsl 3680 - what I want to achieve if possible is to have my old router connect to a different PC which doesn't have a wifi card in it, so basically running an ethernet cable from the old router to the pc while connecting the two routers wirelessly. hope you can help as I have spent well over 120 hours solid trying different methods as suggested by videos on youtube without any success. Best Regards

  • @raffydomingo9415
    @raffydomingo9415 5 лет назад +1

    hi sir good day, ssid of repeater and main router can be set as different name?

  • @carviryzen288
    @carviryzen288 4 года назад +2

    My router doesn't appear in ddwrt, any suggestions on what to do?