Top 10 Worker Placement Games
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Now I don't want to do many of these lists where it's just one designer or publisher or genre, but occasionally I feel some need mention. Mainly because of how oversaturated the industry is. Worker Placement games are a dime a dozen and there's so many to choose from and a ton of great ones, way more than a Top 10 can manage.
So with some difficult rankings, here's my Top 10 Worker Placement Games. What are yours, leave them in the comments and discuss, I'm sure you'll come up with many I love and the odd couple I don't! :P
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Don't worry about the noisy neighbors, can't hear them at all!
Fantastic! I can keep this setup and not have to worry about audio synching from different sources any more.
1.Caylus
2.Agricola
3.Orleans
4.Hansa Teutonica
5.Tzolk'in
6.Finishing Time
7.Lorenzo
8.Raja of the Ganges
9.A feast for Odin
10.Stone Age
Audio worked for me. Good list of 7-8 not being the obvious choices.
Glad it worked out, going to keep this setup going forward.
Targi, Keyflower, Feast for Odin, Village (with Inn exp), Voyages of Marco Polo, Rajas of the Ganges, Fresco, Aquasphere, Stone Age (with exp) and Agricola ACBS
I have only played a few wp games myself
But the order of the list is
1. Champions of midgard (if you don't like the base game the expansions won't change it)
2. Viticulture (its just relaxed and smooth)
3. Agricola (havent tried caverna yet)
The base of Midgard I don't mind, but the swingy luck is a problem for me. I hear the expansions fixed this so I want to try them out.
The expansions change a lot also dead fighters contribute now
If I were to make one:
1. Dominant Species
2. Agricola
3. Caylus
4. Tzolk'in
5. Vinhos
6. Keyflower
7. Bruxelles 1893
8. Lewis & Clark
9. Lancaster
10. Village
I don't know if dice placement/dice manipulation counts as worker placement, but if it does, then Troyes and Bora Bora would be on this list ;).
I don't tend to consider dice placement as worker placement.
Props for Lancaster. Tribune and the ancient world deserve respect!
Haven't tried too many worker placement but Viticulture and Architects are my favorites aswell. Your 10th really sparked my interest.
Same here. I play Stone Age on line but I think that is too basic for many.
The dice swingyness in Stone Age is a put off for me, but I still give it props, it's a good family weight worker placement.
Great choices I love your top 2 choices! Have yet to play the Viticulture with Tuscany but still enjoyed the base game. Raiders is awesome and would be neck and neck with #2 for me!
Thanks for the list. Audio was fine and I didn't hear any of the outside noises.
Excellent! Good to know! 😊
Nice vid , good insights as someone slowly getting into more games. As for the seasons mechanic, how about Everdell? Played it recently at a con, loved it. Waiting for it to come back into stock at local games shop.
I like Everdell, good game, but the seasons thing is mainly just Round 1, Round 2, etc. It doesn't affect your choices as much as Viticulture does.
We have very similar taste in worker placement games. Anachrony, Trickerion, Kanban, and Architects are all in my favorites. I have considered picking up Viticulture but didn't know if I would need it in my collection with the previously mentioned already being there. Great video!!
I love these kind of videos, I love personal opinions for games - that help me decide which game could be interesting for me. However I would like you to show (more) of the game's pictures - art, design, mechanics, components, whatever. Talking is fine but for a such long video you need to show more for the eyes.
The main issue is the time it takes to put those photos in and edit them in the right places. If you imagine that I put in 4 photos per game let's say, that's over 40 photos I need to obtain and arrange.
@@TheBrokenMeeple I agree, it is lots of work and if you are one man behind it must be killing. Keep up the good work.
“Don’t care about the books”... they’re pretty good though. 👌🏻 I have yet to play Pillars, but it’s on my list.
Good list, I agree with your #1, it’s my favorite with Lorenzo in a close #2.
Audio was fine btw.
Cheers
Ooooohh!! Anachrony! I love that game and its theme!! And you also got the same Leader box as me 😍😍
The time travel mechanic is really great, can’t think of any other game that does something so cool
The one game that got time travel right, always said that and so far no other game has managed.
Good choice for number 1. Actually a little shocked Champions of Midgard or Feast for Odin were missing, but regardless, great list.
FoO drops off for stretching the theme and being a monster to teach and set up. Midgard I found too swingy with the dice but I've not played it with expansions yet.
I know this video is a bit older, but I just recently discovered your videos and I love all of them :) Keep up the amazing job!
I don't know if you still check these comments, but I have a couple of thoughts and a question :)
I see in the comments you dislike Champions because of the luck factor. Yes it is a bit on the longer side (2 player I often think I would like 1 round less, but it is not a big issue for me), but that actually to some degree reduces the luck factor - you can get lucky/unlucky on some rolls, but overall you roll dice so often that if you look at the entire game it does even out most of the time. Don't get me wrong, it is still on the lighter side, but it is fun.
The Valhalla expansion reduces feelbad moments, but overall a good roll is still much better than a bad one - you can roll nothign, loose your dice and get valhalla tokens, getting something for them, but another player might roll well and kills their monster, they still often loose most/all dice and get the same token you got as well, so they got both the valhalla goodies and the VPs of the the monster... I still like that expansion a lot, since it does feel better if you roll nothing and it gives you more balanced factions (a second power with the leader die for each of them) and with the leader die you get to the fun monster slaying part even faster.
A good way to look at it is a "push your luck" worker placement game - will you go for the "safe" battle with a lot of redundant dice or are you pushing your luck doing more battles at once, most of them stretched pretty thin?
And for the question - have you tried "dungeon pets"? It sounds like something that fits what you like with thematic WP games that have some unique twist. There is the hand management part of the game which makes it go pretty long, since it can be extremely complicated to think through especially if you push for 3 or even 4 pets and it leads to some downtime (though I do like the puzzle of that part of the game - BTW it is also quite a problem to teach, you sometimes just need to play through a round for people to see what is actually happening during that part of the game). The twist in the WP part is that you have to split your workers into groups behind a screen at the start of the round - more groups means you could get more actions done, but the order in which you place the groups is by size - bigger groups first; meaning you have to balance how early you want to go vs how many actions you would like to take.
I don't know how often you get to play the same game with the same group - in my opinion this is amazing to play with people who you've already tought it in the past and everyone knows what is going on.
Champions I want to try with Valhalla included, that will be its chance to win me back.
I have played Dungeon Pets, I found it quite fun and the theme is good and pretty strong.
Thanks for the kind words!
I love Dungeon Petz! So pleased to see someone mention it (other than Brothers Murph, which is how I discovered its existence).
I agree about Forgotten Folk expansion for Caverna. I think it's my favourite expansion of all time. It took a great game to a whole new level.
Some of the races do seem a little similar but it's great to have the unique buildings.
Thank you Luke. Always enjoy your lists. You have a few I need to play. Not on your list which I really like are Champions of Midgard, Raiders of North Sea and Stone Age. I just bought Architects. Can’t wait to play it!
Midgard I didn't like the swingy luck for the preparation needed. I hear the expansions will make me go back to this.
Argent, Anachrony and Tidal Blade are my favorites. Honorable mention goes to Champions of Midgard and Lords of Waterdeep.
Great list and explanation. Gives me lots of suggestions and pointers to consider. Not sure if you mind listing your top 100?
Btw, I'm currently setting my eyes on Yokohama. What's your take on that?
I may list the Top 100 my worry is people not then watching the videos.
Yokohama is ok but it's basically Istanbul for 3 hours. More involved and more interactive but just very dry and long.
Thank you for the advice. You gave me a clearer picture of the game.
I dont know about the others but I watch RUclips reviews to find out more about the game genre and why certain titles deserve the spot on a list. Will like to hear more from you. If you like to do a video on an expanded list, I guess people like me might watch it too.
Thanks again!
Have you ever done a top 10 favorite designers? If not......*wink wink*
Ha ha, I'm not sure............I have a feeling I did but it would have been a LONG time ago and things have likely changed since.
You should try Spyrium, it takes the worker placement genre and puts a twist on it.
You should see some of my older videos, I used to own it and raved about it. It does indeed put a cool twist on it. It's eventual shortcomings however was a lack of replay value and a non existent theme.
Viticulture, caverna, kanban, architects, anachrony are all on my list as well. I also really like raiders of the north sea with expansions and champions of midgard.
My top ten:
10. Lorenzo il Magnifico - need to play it more
9. Rajas of the Ganges
8. Champions of Midgard - this has really been slipping for me lately
7. Stone Age
6. The Voyages of Marco Polo
5. Energy Empire
4. Viticulture
3. The Gallerist
1b. A Feast for Odin
1a. Anachrony
Tzolk'in has a chance to make it onto my list, but it's another one I need to play more. I also need to figure out where to slot Architects of the West Kingdom into there, because it definitely goes in there somewhere. Still need to play Kanban and Trickerion.
I'm not certain that I consider dice placement as worker placement as I tended to exclude those from the criteria. But even if I did, Lorenzo and Marco wouldn't come close.
@@TheBrokenMeeple The definition of worker placement from BGG: More precisely referred to as "action drafting", this mechanism requires players to select individual actions from a set of actions available to all players. Players generally select actions one-at-a-time and in turn order. There is usually(*) a limit on the number of times a single action may be taken. Once that limit for an action is reached, it typically either becomes more expensive to take again or can no longer be taken for the remainder of the round. As such, not all actions can be taken by all players in a given round, and action "blocking" occurs. If the game is structured in rounds, then all actions are usually refreshed at the start or end of each round so that they become available again.
Sure sounds like Marco Polo to me. Dice placement is just a subcategory of worker placement.
And in Lorenzo you're not even placing dice, so how is it dice placement? The dice simply determine the value/strength of your workers.
4 years later...is Viticulture still your #1? If not what has taken its place?
Games like Whistle Mountain for a kick off.
So excited to watch this one...
Tzolk'in should be on the list for uniqueness and theme - and just for being a great WP game!
Needs the expansion to add some variety to setup. Found myself winning far too often with skulls and the wheels cause so much AP in players that I grew annoyed with the downtime. The chaos factor of those wheels meant planning ahead was often not worth it. I liked it for being unique but it didn't win me over.
Nice list !
As we don't have KANDAN nor ARGENT in France, I would replace 2 other awesome games: ROKOKO and LORENZO IL MAGNIFICO.
Of course, TZOLKIN is also a must have !
Thanks for you review though
How dare your neighbors play in their backyard with their children whilst you are filming your top ten video. Such a more important & worthwhile endeavour than spending time with one’s children.
There was a tiny hint of joking implied in my statement, as if I ban people from playing with their kids.
10) Counterfeiters
9) Euphoria
8)Marco Polo
7) Lords of Water Deep
6)Architects
5) Stone Age
4)Rajas of the Ganges
3)Lorenzo
2)Tzolk'in
1)Viticulture
Not sure if Teotihuacan is a WP game but it is my favorite game. Also have but haven't played A Feast For Odin and Agricola.
I guess Lorenzo is worker placement though you don't use many. But can't stand it myself.
@@TheBrokenMeeple you have 4 worker. I can see why you dislike it, my wife does not like it at all.
@@J-Wheeler-G Crossed that line of being too restrictive/punishing for me. The "setting" also I'm just done with in all games, all this renaissance Italy!!
@@TheBrokenMeeple fair enough. My wife's exact words were "it is too restrictive". I like the game a lot but I can see why people like you and her wouldn't.
It's not only a game. It's the only game!
The UN track on Energy Empire seems a little tacked on...would like to see the winner of the race given some unique power
Yeah it's the one weak part I have, just another "track".
Hi, thanks for the video. Which of these would you recommend for 2 players?
Not on this list but I could recommend Targi for an excellent two player only worker placement game.
Out of these on the list.....Fields of Arle definitely if you like heavier games.
The Broken Meeple Ok, thanks. Fields of Arle is a bit expensive but I might check out Targi.
Yeah it's cheap and semi portable.
This video came at the right time. I just got home and the wife says is that another game in the package yep. I tell her how viticulture is a very good game. Of course I had tuscany with it.
Adore Architects. As for Viticulture: I only have essential edition. I adore every single aspect of this version EXCEPT....I loathe the cards. I clearly don't get something about this game. Every part of it is amazing, and then massively random game-changing cards. I know other people have this issue. Luke, help me understand what I'm missing .... PLEASE. I honestly want to love it, but the randomness of the card draws that appear utterly game-changing drives me crazy! Thanks for nay help. Great video as always.
The Tuscany expansion brings in some advanced cards that you can use. These are not only more balanced but have dual effects so that if one effect you can't do, you can usually do the other and both are good abilities. Plus the promo cards released over time in separate mini-sets are good inclusions or alternatives to use from the base ones.
@@TheBrokenMeeple Aha! Thanks Luke - will investigate.
@@SuperLkelley Stonemier heard the concerns about the cards and released Visit from Rhine Valley it replaces the cards with ones that don't affect victory points and provides more balance.
I can't give a good top 10 because I haven't played enough. There are so many on this list I haven't played but want to. The only ones I can think of that weren't here and I really like are Lords of Waterdeep & Rococo.
My top 8:
8) The Manhattan Project (Love that you have to use a turn to get the workers back)
7) Edo (Programmed hidden worker placement)
6) Alien Frontiers (dice makes worker placement interesting)
5) Empires: Age of Discovery (Upgradable workers! Need I say more?)
4) Keyflower (Using the workers to bid and work? Cool!),
3) Tzolkin (The time mechanic)
2) Yokohama (Worker placement with movement)
1) Orleans (The bag building and worker roles).
I don't know if I'd consider Orleans or Yoko as a worker placement. Same for Keyflower.
@@TheBrokenMeeple Well, I think BGG respectfully disagrees... :-)
Orleans is definitely worker placement. It just takes multiple workers to take an action and the bag determines what workers are available to you to take said actions.
@Tom I too consider Orleans to be a worker placement but I’ve heard others make a case that it’s actually an action selection game. Either way it’s one of my all time favs.
@@robertaustin6302 Agreed on it being a favorite. I only got it recently and have half a dozen plays but it is truly a great game. It's definitely a hybrid of a number of conceits. But, it's not an action selection game. Worker placement with some aspects of action-selection.
Played this 3 days ago with 4p took us 3 hours and realized that the luck of the draw is the only think that desides who will win ... but we will try it again soon with Tuscany hoping it will fix some stuff.
Tuscany is THE essential expansion as I agree, without it, it's no where near as a good. However 3 hours is pushing it, you should be able to do 4 players in 2 hours easily. The new visitor cards in Tuscany and the mini expansions give more options and replace the base game ones.
Do you think you can win Viticulture (only the base game) without focusing on fulfilling the wine orders?
I did once by trading/doing cheap wines spam. But this is why you need Tuscany. It opens up like crazy then.
Anachrony, Viticulture (with expansion), Architects, Champions of Midgard (with expansions), Raiders of the North Seas (with expansions), and Lords of Waterdeep (with expansion) are my favorite worker placement games. Without expansions the only 2 that would be in my top 6 are Anachrony and Architects. While Dinosaur Island is in my top 10 games of all time, it is too much of a hybrid to be considered WP.
Tribune is the best worker placement game in my opinion. Lancaster would be up there as well.
It's always interesting to see reviews and top-10's - if nothing else, then to find out how the taste of the host matches your own, so you know how much trust to put into his opinions.
... and you really lost me in the end.
A game being "dated" is *NOT* a reason for it to be bad.
And I don't see why a game being punishing (like Agricola) makes it bad. - at all, actually. Games are not supposed to be easy.
There's a difference between easy and constantly being punched in the face or heavily restricted in your options. I like having a lot of options and being allowed to do my chosen path to victory, not be rail roaded into a specific route.
... sure. The last sentence was an argument.
But being constantly punched in the face is just a challenge.
I'm sad that Teotihuacan didn't make the list :(
Also sad that Teotihuacan and Champions of Midgard didn't earn honorable mentions :(
This doesn't feel like a worker placement because it's more about managing movent than worker placement. It's WP aspect is secondary to me.
Teotihuacan isn't a worker placement game at all because you have to manage your movement for selecting actions on a giant rondel.
Midgard I wasn't a fan of but bear in mind I've not played the expansions for it which I hear fix all the issues and I may like it more when I do get to try them. Base game alone though looks nice and is smooth but it's a very swingy luck fest where one bad roll ruins all your hard preparation.
@@TheBrokenMeeple ooh I always thought of Teotihuacan as worker placement since you do have workers and move them around the board to produce. There are some spots that they can lock themselves into. Also there's sort of the blocking action where too many workers on a spot prevents another player from going there due to lack of Cocoa.
Sad to hear about Midgard :(
Trickerion Collector's Edition sounded good. Unfortunately KS expired 7 months ago.
The expansion for Energy empire will be out on kickstarter within a few months.
The expansion includes:
New Nations Cards
New Global Impact Cards
New Structure Cards
Megastructures
Espionage
The Doomsday Clock
The "Clash of Nations" New Solo Mode
..the Cold War expansion will be on Kickstarter later this fall :)
Yeeessss! 😃
What are Lacerda's duds, in your opinion? I'm just starting to explore his games and would love to hear your thoughts.
CO2 was a major dud and his upcoming Escape Plan is also not winning me over from the demos I've had, really long with a ton of downtime and your actions don't mean very much. Other than that though his lineup is solid.
The Broken Meeple I think CO2 is Rahdo’s favourite Lacerda. I wouldn’t call it a dud but it’s probably his least impressive.
Really? Architects #2 and it was a coin toss for #1? I am a little burned out on worker place mechanic; there has been a lot of lazy game design with worker place. Designer and publishers just throwing stuff out there to feed the insatiable demand of our hobby. So i have passed of playing this at the Cons, BGG, dice retreat..... i will have to take at it look now.
Greg, Architects is a really good game. I don't know that it's a top WP game (but I'm not a huge Rosenberg fan so that knocks half of the 'good' ones off my list) but it's definitely a different vibe. I happen to prefer Everdell as the game which stretches worker placement. And that may simply be b/c I'm terrible at Architects and am good at Everdell. Salt this opinion to taste.
Everdell is hard to classify but I like it more for the card play then the few workers you have.
I agree about the card play but its definitely a eorker placement game at its heart which evolved into something interesting beyond that
@@ThomasLuongo I wont support any dan yarrington games
What does that have to do with what we’re duscussing?
pillars of the earth .............IS the game ...................... there are some good locations in the expansion that i use but not all............................ life lesson, got it when it came out, i bought the expansion as soon as i could and no , im keeping mine........love it.. ( i s frum samtum, l yum ( ampshur ? ) accent )
My top 6 are Robinson Crusoe, Lords of Waterdeep, Stone Age, Agricola, Pursuit of Happiness, and welcome to Walnut Grove... I don't like Caverna because it has no variability in initial state and the theme is less well integrated in order to allow more choice.
Feel the same way about Feast for odin
where would you place Gugong (+ expansions) in this list ?
In my 20s maybe. It was fine, I liked it ok but it got put aside ones we liked more.
Nice Luke...did your results just mirror your top 100 games position?
My top worker placement's that I own...
1.dinosaur island
2.Raiders of the North sea
3.discworld ankh morpork
4.dice hospital
5. Lords of waterdeep
6.egizia
7.harbour
8. Tiny epic western
I would love to put scythe on the list but it's not really a worker placement game...
Think that's all I own...
Look forward to the next one mate. 😁
Nope, not entirely. Scythe is definitely not a worker placement game but I also don't consider Dinosaur Island to be one either. You have no tension with workers in Phase 3 and in Phase 1, the only thing you can be blocked from obtaining is a specific dino recipe, there's loads of dice and you can simply just up your storage limits.
I love the way that lists are always changing...the way a game moves up or down... sometimes not for any reason...just think things have changed in the way you look at a game...
I do class Dino island as a worker placement game...I don't know how else you'd describe it...engine builder? Perhaps...but worker placement is definitely there...
Raiders is a worker placement game where you always have an option...even when someone goes where you wanted...
Opinions...that's what makes the community so great...
Cheers Luke...😁
What do you think about Architects in solo compared with the other players?
I actually like the solo mode a lot, it's quick and you get a challenging but unpredictable AI.
For me:
1. Dinosaur Island
2. Lords of WaterDeep
3. Dice Hospital
4. Alien Frontiers
5. Carcassonne
6. Kingdomino
Ones I'm excited to try:
1. Champions of Midgard
2. Heroes of Land Air and Sea (?)
3. Blue Moon City
Was surprised Luke didn't even mention Dinosaur Island when it was right behind him. Suppose it's only the first phase that you can block each other with your workers.
Carcassonne is worker placement?
Champions of Midgard is lots of fun.
I recommend Teotihuacan
@@BrianD0313 I think so, you place a worker and score points.
@@LeeroyPorkins yeah but it's not like you have options to place workers; you can only place on the tile you placed
I don't think of Dinosaur Island as worker placement. You do your own thing in Phase 3 with no tension or blocking and in Phase 1 you can only be blocked out of a dino recipe. Didn't really tick enough boxes for the category.
Midgard is ok but it is a very swingy luck fest with all those dice which puts me off it. Now granted I need to play it again with someone who has the expansions.
Carcassonne I would not call worker placement based on my criteria. Also Teotihuacan doesn't fit my definition of worker placement either as you are on a rondel and never really get blocked out of a space.
Lords of Waterdeep. Dominant Species. Global Mogul. Lowlands. Robinson Crusoe. Kingsburg. My game bud would add Pillars of the Earth, Caylus, Anachrony, and Feast of Odin.
Lowlands and Crusoe wouldn't meet the definition. The former is more action selection and the latter is similar as you don't block with workers when you're working together.
Viticulture would be my nr. 1. Then ... In no particular order... Rajas (no dice placement. Dice are just a resource 😉), stone age Anniversary Edition(those mini expansions and rules changes help a lot) , lowlands, lancaster big box and perhaps Outlive...not sure in that one.
Architects front-loads all of the interesting decisions in the game. Your character is super important. The draft is really important. Your first Apprentice is incredibly important. The other 95% of the game? Surprisingly stale. You build up some resources, you lose your tempo when they get arrested. You build up some more resources. You lose tempo spending turns arresting other players and the cashing in because you need to. There is no build up. There aren't any big moments. You just watch the other players and try to figure out when everyone is wanting to end the game and build as much as you can as late as you can. Its not terrible but its moment to moment gameplay is worse than any WP game in my collection.
Yea, not that good list sorry to say. You should play more games. :D
Disagree. 😁 On the first part anyway, always up for playing games!
Luke i am a bit surprised carson city was not on your list.
Probably between 11-15. I like it a lot but it's quite a long game and a mission to teach for what isn't that complex a game.
Pillars of the Earth recently got a reprint mate
I thought it wasn't released yet though.....?
Tuscany is top 10 for me.
Also have you Played Gugong? It belongs on this list
Gugong I've recently reviewed and it's decent but in no way is that a worker placement game.
Just ordered Great Western Trails, how does that rank for you?
Last time it made a list it was my No 2 Overrated Game. I really don't like GWT, but it's popular with many people so I'm in a minority. :P
@@TheBrokenMeeple I need to watch that video, new to the board game community and loving it.
That's what I want to hear regardless of what games you like! :-) You're in that rosy period I miss where everything is new!
@@TheBrokenMeeple Great rant man very entertaining hahahaha I hope I enjoy the game while drinking a few beers. 🍻
Russian railroads
Spyrium
Caverna
Targi
Alien frontiers
Water deep
Stone age
Caylus
Targi is a good one. 👍
Would suggest Troyes and Raiders of the north sea.
Raiders is cool, but not Top 10 for me.
@@TheBrokenMeeple Yeah, so many good games nowdays. And half of them are worker placement :)
Great list mate.
Not related to boardgames, but to the video quality itself. The lighting you use is not ideal. Try something warmer, more yellow and red.
Easier said than done, I don't have multiple light filters or a studio! 😂
Dude, Great vid you made! Love your channel :3
Will you be at Essen 2019? Please let me know, I’d like to meet you :)
Will be indeed, probably helping out the Dice Tower.
Great! I’ll remember that. Thanks for responding and hope to meet you in the near future.
Where's the love for Argent: the Consortium???
In the video......It's in the Top 10. Not sure I quite grasp the question.
@@TheBrokenMeeple nobody else is taking about it in the comments. I for one LOVE Argent. Anachrony and Argent are my favorite worker placement games. I also have lots of Uwe's games but farming simulation gets boring. Would La Granja fit under WP?
Yup was talking about in the comments, sorry I wasn't clear!
Ah right well if it makes you feel better, in one of the Facebook groups I shared this in, Argent is getting all the love! 😊
You can make weed? 31:20 😳
27:00 Agricola Review :)
Needs more Simone Luciani.
Not if you are referring to Lorenzo it dOesn't! 😂
@@TheBrokenMeeple Lorenzo and The Voyages of Marco Polo are sorely missing from your list!
@@undersci Can't recall if I excluded dice placement. Even so, don't like Marco Polo. Lorenzo is just super dry and hyper restrictive. Polo way just unbalanced like mad. I think the designer did Newton which I don't mind but otherwise he's not a favourite.
@@TheBrokenMeeple We'll just have to agree to disagree here. The Voyages of Marco Polo, which I've played over 50 times, is probably the best balanced eurogame I've ever played - balancing the strong variable player powers was a masterwork of design.
I've never lost with the contract buff player power or the"choose" your dice power. Contracts are easily the most accessible path even though some travel paths do work well also. That camel power felt so meh. Strokes for folks but I don't see Polo played even.