Minecraft's new report system sucks

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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  • @OmicronGaming
    @OmicronGaming  2 года назад +711

    1. A couple people have asked me if I'm planning on making a video to commemorate Technoblade. The thing is, I don't want to say anything else. I would feel wrong doing so. Making a video about it on my channel doesn't really feel right, and I have no desire to farm clicks/ad revenue/attention off the topic like some others are doing. So yeah. Stay strong out there, and talk to someone if you're going through stages of grief. We'll get through this as a community. 💜
    2. This video topic is a couple days old, but I was working on this video and juggling conventions at the same time. Then, after the Techno news struck, I couldn't really bring myself to edit or look at Minecraft for a few days. But after a little delay, I'm back and should be on a normal schedule from here on out. Thanks for your patience!

    • @Psycho_Potat0
      @Psycho_Potat0 2 года назад +3

      Hello

    • @kylofps
      @kylofps 2 года назад +20

      Massive respect man

    • @icudill4017
      @icudill4017 2 года назад +18

      Omicron I have your respect for doing this. As most youtubers are milking this as a form of monetization. However, you stick out like a sore thumb, and in a real good way. Your way of handling this should be a role model to other youtuber's, and I am completely agreeing on your opinion. You clearly show respects to Technoblade and are refusing to attempt to get a little more revenue or clicks off something that shouldn't be touched but just accepted and acknowledged.

    • @RinRin72769
      @RinRin72769 2 года назад +6

      Chaddest RUclipsr

    • @rahulmehta7476
      @rahulmehta7476 2 года назад +3

      Respect+++

  • @creepcraft370
    @creepcraft370 2 года назад +757

    I don’t see why they just don’t mute you instead of just plain out banning you

    • @UltraAryan10
      @UltraAryan10 2 года назад +96

      They mute you on bedrock, not sure why java devs are going crazy with the bans.

    • @pineappleudh6561
      @pineappleudh6561 2 года назад +114

      I don't see why they are doing this in the first place.
      It's up to the server owners to decide their rules, Minecraft doesn't need to do it (and quite frankly is going to do a terrible job)
      Luckily I'm almost certain this change won't last long (considering the amount of mass reporting bots there's gonna be)

    • @oPrixel
      @oPrixel 2 года назад +3

      you need to be a mojang dev

    • @Bruzen
      @Bruzen 2 года назад +14

      @@UltraAryan10 the devs are just taking orders stop blaming them 💀

    • @AndrewPacketikov
      @AndrewPacketikov 2 года назад

      @@Bruzen the hitler soliders are just taking oders stop blaming them

  • @w3llplad783
    @w3llplad783 2 года назад +629

    Punishments should be dealt with the servers not the game itself. The strictness of the rules should depend on the server, since every server is different.

    • @mkeefe4248
      @mkeefe4248 2 года назад +9

      Exactly

    • @chilledout_5486
      @chilledout_5486 2 года назад +26

      You could say "lets kill green first" and you'd probably get banned. (Bedwars)

    • @Better_Bread
      @Better_Bread 2 года назад

      @@chilledout_5486 imagine saying “let’s kill white” in bedwars and someone reporting you for racism

    • @caniputballsinyojaws
      @caniputballsinyojaws 2 года назад +27

      @@chilledout_5486 imagine saaying something like black is bad and then getting banned for racism when its bedwars. fuck its gonna be bad if we are judging off of roblox moderation which it seems like its getting pretty close to.idk tho if it isnt in every version imma just stick to 1.19 and before if i play multiplayer.

    • @birdfigure
      @birdfigure 2 года назад +1

      @@caniputballsinyojaws 'cept roblox moderation only comes when you bypass the extreme censorship they have on, along with warnings.

  • @ominoustoaster
    @ominoustoaster 2 года назад +403

    Minecraft’s relationship with its community has been going downhill ever since they were bought out by Microsoft, it sucks that they care more about money and pandering to the general audience than listening to the people who have been playing their game for years.

    • @luminatron
      @luminatron 2 года назад

      Finally it's here YES
      ruclips.net/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/видео.html

    • @slimesp1der
      @slimesp1der 2 года назад +4

      True

    • @SND08
      @SND08 2 года назад +25

      It's just because it's not mojangs choice anymore. It's Microsoft's

    • @LeReubzRic
      @LeReubzRic 2 года назад +6

      Hope some noob doesn't get me banned for hacking

    • @UltraAryan10
      @UltraAryan10 2 года назад +13

      It kinda went downhill then uphill then they reached their lowest point now.

  • @Tomatech
    @Tomatech 2 года назад +121

    The only problems i have with chat reporting is
    A. Microsoft handling the reports instead of a server mod team
    B. Reports and bans are global. If you're banned from one server, even falsely, you're banned from all servers including your own private servers

    • @rachel1215
      @rachel1215 Год назад +4

      Just use cracked minecraft

    • @maxseemton641
      @maxseemton641 Год назад +3

      @@rachel1215 yup if I get banned I won't buy another account cracked ones are easy as fuck to get

    • @rachel1215
      @rachel1215 Год назад

      @@maxseemton641 oh no, how can you not pay us for the fifth time for the same game? We still haven't released the dlc, the fishing update and the vr edition

    • @Lych_
      @Lych_ Год назад

      Are you guys like crying cause you can’t be racist sexist etc. In your server? JUST DON’T SWEAR

    • @lebro4401
      @lebro4401 Год назад +7

      @@Lych_
      I seriously don't get this argument.
      "SMH just don't swear" is just a naive take from a perspective where global ban shouldn't be necessary and such just do local bans "which is getting banned from the server not multiplayer access" just like the community has been doing for decades.
      The report system is a fine addition but the implementation in which it forces global ban in losing your multiplayer rights because you happen to do a miniscule of Tom foolery or even get falsely banned is downright stupid.
      Regardless, getting global banned for something that is mentioned above is a nuclear option which only hurts the playerbase.

  • @gasped
    @gasped 2 года назад +375

    I am astounded that Microsoft is STILL set on implementing the chat report system despite the continuous and harsh backlash. This reporting system is completely unneeded and if anything, harmful. I am fully convinced that Microsoft is just a money hungry company that doesn't care about it's users whatsoever.

    • @calcutt4
      @calcutt4 2 года назад +53

      It took you this long to realise that?

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад +7

      Fr, its gonna be only chat about buying something and you have to make it super clear that its some in game thing, its a shitty system deemed to destroy the multiplayer sustem.

    • @qy9MC
      @qy9MC 2 года назад +15

      There's not a single game company that cares about the players. Not anymore.

    • @gilesstockman4913
      @gilesstockman4913 2 года назад +3

      totally agree

    • @timbo303official9
      @timbo303official9 2 года назад +5

      @@qy9MC your a bit wrong about this seeing how indie developers are a thing. For Pete's sake even hypixel itself counts.

  • @chibz1790
    @chibz1790 2 года назад +75

    the bottom line is that even though it seems like it, minecraft isn't a kids game, in fact the report system is doing the opposite for the target audience, restricting banned players to a single-player, child friendly game mode, in my opinion i think an age verification would be better before letting children access multiplayer modes, as it would prevent young eyes from being harrassed on the internet, while also giving them the experience of minecraft

    • @chibz1790
      @chibz1790 2 года назад +7

      obviously age verification being something like 12 and up years old to play multiplayer

    • @bilingualfish4246
      @bilingualfish4246 2 года назад +9

      but some kids like playing multiplayer like hypixel. honestly nothing about chat reporting or multiplayer bans should exist. quite a lot of kids playing big servers like hypixel don't even care about swear words and stuff

    • @shadowmanksx
      @shadowmanksx 2 года назад +8

      they don't want to restrict anyone they want to force you to rebuy minecraft to play multiplayer increasing there revenue it's literally the only reason this shit was added they dont care about young people or the playerbase.

    • @mathewmantas
      @mathewmantas Год назад

      Exactly my thought.

    • @ebty4969
      @ebty4969 Год назад +2

      @@shadowmanksx this is most definitely true. They have no way to actually keep you off multiplayer. They don't link bans to emails or ip addresses, so you can easily bypass the ban by buying another account. Microsoft doesn't care about being PG like it says it does. It just wants money.

  • @Bjsvakdvskdbaiqb
    @Bjsvakdvskdbaiqb 2 года назад +73

    I think you may have forgotten that players on bedrock are SCARED to chat in ANY server.

    • @1unar_eclipse
      @1unar_eclipse 2 года назад +8

      I got shadowmuted from one server probably because their spam filter doesn't factor in time. They also reward you for saying "gg" after a game. So, if you only say "gg" for the experience...

    • @femboy_garfield
      @femboy_garfield 2 года назад

      @@1unar_eclipse galaxite?

    • @1unar_eclipse
      @1unar_eclipse 2 года назад

      @@femboy_garfield yep

    • @jetpond7904
      @jetpond7904 Год назад

      I’m genuinly scared to chat as well

    • @matthewbarabas3052
      @matthewbarabas3052 10 месяцев назад

      good. that means anyone that does talk does so because its needed.

  • @petos_n9926
    @petos_n9926 2 года назад +45

    This system is practically useless because almost every server has its own moderation and rules.

    • @ahmadsab_
      @ahmadsab_ 2 года назад +20

      This system is not useless, its less than useless and it's harmful

    • @petos_n9926
      @petos_n9926 2 года назад +10

      @@ahmadsab_ Exactly. In theory you can actually false ban owner of of their own server.

    • @Will_-it3mh
      @Will_-it3mh Год назад +1

      @@petos_n9926 I did not think of that. Imagine some of the major servers owners losing their servers. tho maybe if the team running the server is big enough it won't be a big issues since the server maybe have shared ownership. but idk the details, ain't very knolegable

    • @wNiko.
      @wNiko. Год назад

      @@Will_-it3mh usually if your host isnt dumb you have console access ao you can basically get an alt or buy a new accpunt and can give ownerahip to your new acc but the syatem is dumb in general

    • @LongNguyen-gj7ec
      @LongNguyen-gj7ec Год назад

      actually i think the ban system is pointless, as big servers like hypixels already have their own report system, or
      small servers have /kick, /ban commands

  • @thelonelydragon8768
    @thelonelydragon8768 2 года назад +55

    Not only does it raise the issue of malicious ban-spamming, but it also steamrolls the endless diverse "cultures" of the Minecraft multiplayer community. Does anyone actually have faith that Microsoft (because that's who this is coming from) is going to spend the resources to carefully study the context of each chat message, action, etc. of each reported player? And who's to say Microsoft is an objective judge either?

    • @Gamer-nc8qp
      @Gamer-nc8qp 2 года назад +6

      there are hack v hack servers anarchy and shit, microsoft should not moderate the game at all.

  • @VerySkilledGamer
    @VerySkilledGamer 2 года назад +95

    Servers can have different rule sets, and Microsoft admins won’t know about them so this basically will ruin servers with their own rule sets unless they change it to where server owners can do something like toggle certain report categories or toggle chat reports in general.

    • @VerySkilledGamer
      @VerySkilledGamer 2 года назад +23

      Or just don’t add the report system, cause Mojang purposely made Java edition be named “Minecraft: Java Edition” while bedrock is named “Minecraft”. They can just change the rating for Java edition to be rated T for teens or whatever it is compared to Bedrock’s E10+ and let the server owners take care of everything. If they plan on making parity between Bedrock and Java, but making Java like Bedrock instead, I won’t be updating. Maybe they could also make it to where only server owners and moderators could report someone and actually get it sent to Microsoft, as that would make false bans a lot less likely cause it’d go through two mods.

    • @AvoidMyHitz
      @AvoidMyHitz 2 года назад +4

      You could not update the version or create plugins that disable the gui of the report system

    • @AvoidMyHitz
      @AvoidMyHitz 2 года назад +3

      There are servers that mute me for days cuz I said bitch, and servers that are OK with me saying the f word once every 5 seconds

    • @TipoIrritable
      @TipoIrritable 2 года назад +1

      I mean, the death threats are not in any rule of a server

    • @ihavenoideas5844
      @ihavenoideas5844 2 года назад +1

      @@TipoIrritable 2b2t

  • @marsgc543
    @marsgc543 2 года назад +157

    I agree with what the description says, if a player is doing something inappropriate or spamming unendingly then there is always the option to just leave. Just leave. Minecraft doesn't need to implement multiversal bans because it is such a sandbox game that there are an infinite number of things anyone could do to stop that person or just leave the situation altogether.

    • @cassregisterr
      @cassregisterr 2 года назад

      Banning makes sense in my head because that player that is being annoying isn’t just annoying you, it’s annoying everyone in that server as well. Not to mention the other servers that that player will go to.

    • @Dan.114
      @Dan.114 2 года назад +19

      @@cassregisterr but bro if a player gets banned he wont be able to join HIS OWN SERVERS and his friend's servers FOREVER do you even realize how wrong this is

    • @cassregisterr
      @cassregisterr 2 года назад +2

      @@Dan.114 ohhhhhhhhhh you're right.
      most bans aren't permanent though, unless its a permanent ban, which they might have done something bad to deserve it.

    • @imadoge5036
      @imadoge5036 2 года назад +4

      @@cassregisterr just ignore them or leave that to the moderation team. Additionally you should just add a command like /ignore (specific_player). Banning is not only stupid because there is a moderation team on each server mostly, but you also can't swear like you used to. Some people just like dark jokes. Multiversal banning is stupid. And besides, he even mentioned in the video. If someone annoys you, just report them to the server staff

    • @imadoge5036
      @imadoge5036 2 года назад +1

      @@cassregisterr also who cares about the other servers that player goes to, he can get banned everywhere

  • @uxiii9537
    @uxiii9537 2 года назад +50

    Even though we as a community stated that we will not accept new rules, they're still enforcing it as if they have a malicious purpose in doing so. I dont trust microsoft, and in recent years lost my trust to mojang (splitting 1 version into 3)

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад +3

      @Arolex just making it less user friendly.

    • @luckylmj
      @luckylmj 2 года назад +3

      @Arolex yeah, personally every update since 1.14 has sucked
      but like, do i really care? as long as they keep the ability to play previous versions, im fine

    • @xebrax124
      @xebrax124 2 года назад +4

      @@luckylmj with how microsoft runs bedrock, i wouldn't be surprised if they made java playable only on older versions :/

    • @mr.creeper6484
      @mr.creeper6484 2 года назад +2

      @Arolex well netherite new textures and warden are great. they have done their fair share of good but the chat report system is unnaceptable

    • @Chia_Mochia
      @Chia_Mochia 2 года назад +1

      @Arolex Isn't that the whole point of the Warden? It's supposed to be overpowered, because you aren't supposed to kill it. The whole point of the deep dark is for you to be sneaky, and not start killing everything in site. Also, how does one mob effect the usefulness of an item? I could go and say diamond is useless for the exact same reason you stated as well. As well as iron, gold, leather, etc

  • @NickDidThis
    @NickDidThis 2 года назад +52

    They should make it toggleable on servers imo, so some servers don’t have to have it

    • @truepixel__5927
      @truepixel__5927 2 года назад +19

      And better yet, display a warning saying that the server the player is joining may not be a suitable environment for kids.

    • @i30
      @i30 2 года назад +4

      @@truepixel__5927 Yes otherwise it's like saying Hey, join my roleplay server where we will assign you the role of the kidnapper and report you!

  • @Relmix_
    @Relmix_ 2 года назад +26

    I can’t wait for cheaters to make auto report scripts like on roblox.
    Context, cheaters on roblox get called names like “ur so bad you have to cheat”, “wow your cheating and are still bad”. So cheaters made scripts that whenever they see keywords like those it auto reports the other user. In 9/10 cases the angry player gets a 3 day “harassment” ban and the cheater just continues to play.

    • @1unar_eclipse
      @1unar_eclipse 2 года назад

      Some already have lol

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, like fly hacking and me saying that they fr have to cheat getting me banned is just a shitty feature.

  • @Why-wd3zg
    @Why-wd3zg 2 года назад +17

    I have already seen mods that can manipulate reports to remove context and get someone falsely banned. These mods are just made to prove how easy it is to break the system, but genuine mods to abuse this kind of thing would be just as easy to make. The system is awful in every way.

    • @ebty4969
      @ebty4969 Год назад

      Yeah I know for a fact that as soon as 1.19.1 comes out, the ban count is going to hit some REALLY high numbers

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap Год назад

      Even worse now
      Mods to manipulate context

  • @_tym3k
    @_tym3k 2 года назад +21

    If they really want to improve multiplayer experience they should add something like "confirm you are over a certain age so we can show you the chat"
    and I think players should just forget about that system and play as normal

  • @michichan6311
    @michichan6311 2 года назад +16

    Another day, another regret I wished notch never sold it to some multi-billionare company

    • @chickennugget6684
      @chickennugget6684 2 года назад +1

      although from his perspective who can blame him, dude made bank
      ..i do fricking hate microsoft though.l

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад

      We wouldn’t have these updates if it weren’t for the funding from Microsoft.

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад

      Not saying I support the moderation system; I despise it with all my heart. This is coming from a Roblox player who has played the game since 2013 and witnessed the most bullshit reasons for a moderation punishment

    • @mango5898
      @mango5898 Год назад +1

      @@notzaldy roblox should be an example of why this chat reporting system wouldn’t work

    • @jetpond7904
      @jetpond7904 Год назад

      @@mango5898 exactly. Roblox is shit

  • @KudaXD
    @KudaXD 2 года назад +5

    ngl i feel like they will have ppl purposefully perma banning people for them to buy another minecraft account.
    and imagine all your hard work gone and locked behind a $30 paywall. Such a disappointing update

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад

      @Bplayz but you cant play hypixel on forge fabric

    • @Damian-cilr2
      @Damian-cilr2 Год назад

      @@1000-THR_Benjamin tf do you mean you can't? i have played on hypixel with mods multiple times

  • @emifro
    @emifro 2 года назад +7

    The number 1 issue with this is: My server, my rules. Micro$oft does not need to tell me how to moderate my server hosted on my computer.

  • @briancrompton7440
    @briancrompton7440 2 года назад +8

    Bill gates is just tired of ppl claiming their dad owns Microsoft

  • @Evanthecush
    @Evanthecush 2 года назад +14

    I think server owners should have the choice to implement the report features on their server

  • @PetBrickProductions
    @PetBrickProductions 2 года назад +29

    I'd say the best option would be to use that mod that disables chat-signing

    • @mr.creeper6484
      @mr.creeper6484 2 года назад +1

      now they can detect the mod

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад +1

      @@mr.creeper6484 bruh

    • @R0DBS2
      @R0DBS2 Год назад

      @@mr.creeper6484 this is Just stupid

    • @RealNotOrrio
      @RealNotOrrio Год назад

      @@mr.creeper6484 build a mod that uses a different chat code so it cant be detected

  • @kenobi5745
    @kenobi5745 2 года назад +41

    Not mojang's fault, this is Microsoft doing this, they wanted their accounts to be used for all minecrafters so they had more control over us, and this is phase 1

    • @in_credit
      @in_credit 2 года назад +1

      wait, how many phases are there? ...

    • @Th3cosmic_
      @Th3cosmic_ 2 года назад +3

      @@in_credit 69

    • @SplatBad
      @SplatBad 2 года назад +1

      @@in_credit 5

    • @Gamer-nc8qp
      @Gamer-nc8qp 2 года назад +4

      @@in_credit next they are coming after cracked servers and clients

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад +9

      @@in_credit 5 phases
      First phase take control
      Second phase assert dominance
      Third phase abuse
      Fourth phase target pirated clients
      Last phase kill the game.

  • @LilPolvito
    @LilPolvito 2 года назад +24

    imo, even if the player does death threats or says something really bad, they should not be banned from minecraft, they should be banned from just the server. We are forced to pay or host our own servers so mojang/microsoft should stay out of it.

    • @matthewbarabas3052
      @matthewbarabas3052 10 месяцев назад

      oh sure, people can totally be trusted to behave on every other server. global bans are needed.

  • @cloap1702
    @cloap1702 2 года назад +16

    Mojang should add a thing so servers can define before a player joins if the server is like PG family friendly or toxic players so if a player is reported for swearing in a toxic server they cannot be in trouble as the server owners/staff have decided it’s ok and the players are aware of this fact

  • @YaYeet47
    @YaYeet47 2 года назад +7

    I think that if this goes into action I will avoid chatting most of the time, being afraid of being banned from anything.

    • @ebty4969
      @ebty4969 Год назад +1

      I stopped playing multiplayer months ago because I got legitimately sick of it, but this would be good enough a reason to leave now if I hadn't already done so. Unfortunately I'm still going to have to unwillingly watch Minecraft's gameplay updates continue deteriorating, because it definitely will.

  • @rubbishping3853
    @rubbishping3853 2 года назад +30

    I think they should instead of banning players from multiplayer and realms they could just mute the player for an amount of time

    • @amongsussyballs
      @amongsussyballs 2 года назад +9

      exactly this
      why are people going to be banned for chatting when you could just disable their chat?????

    • @i30
      @i30 2 года назад +3

      @@amongsussyballs and why are you going to disable their chat from all servers? Some servers literally are roleplay servers

    • @silverash896
      @silverash896 2 года назад +3

      @@amongsussyballs still a terrible idea, some servers are relied heavily on commands, even if Microsoft decided to mute the chat but not the commands, its still going to break some plugins because not all of them are perfect and are designed for these type of moderation. Moderation as a whole should be taken care by the owner of the server. Multiversal moderation is not a solution, its a recipe for disaster.

  • @bzbam24
    @bzbam24 2 года назад +7

    Uh oh don't make fun of people's pet hamsters or else...💀

  • @unavailableun
    @unavailableun 2 года назад +13

    minecraft 1.20, the terrible update: "we have removed the /ban command as young kids can't be trusted with that kind of power, we also removed all forms of weapons as children need to be protected from all forms of IRL problems whilst playing games"

    • @HungryWarden
      @HungryWarden 11 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, I can’t say 1.20 was any better than that update. We got a bunch of useless decorations that do absolutely nothing and add nothing to the gameplay, not to mention they’re way to rare to actually obtain a reasonable amount.

    • @HungryWarden
      @HungryWarden 11 месяцев назад

      *too rare

  • @CryptoTNT
    @CryptoTNT 2 года назад +7

    What if they want to mis-ban you, so you pay for Minecraft again and they get more money?
    Its really sad how Mojang broke the trust they gave the players since the very start, Minecraft is a game where you choose how you wanna play.
    This is just ruining the freedom of the game.

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад

      I mean thats how they will do it realistically. Soon everything will be pirated.

  • @prosandcons-fl2cc
    @prosandcons-fl2cc 2 года назад +5

    I left a comment on their feedback page. It took them a little less than a week to review it and when they did, they removed it for some reason.
    There were no swear words, inflammatory statements, or anything. They just removed it. The saddest part is that ive this is a common thing happening.

  • @elynox1730
    @elynox1730 2 года назад +13

    People wont learn from their mistakes if they just get banned like that its just gonna make them angry

    • @takbuddersstuff5757
      @takbuddersstuff5757 Год назад +1

      Especially false bans! Microsoft needs to learn a thing or two.

  • @afriendlyfox
    @afriendlyfox 2 года назад +3

    Honestly what makes me really mad, is that if people host these servers themselves, why should Mojang decide if they do have access to them or not? They could decide it for Realms, but making me unable to connect to the server I host on my machine which I pay for is ridiculous.

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад

      “Give me your $29 and we’ll take the game away from you”
      - Microsoft

  • @thenetheritecow
    @thenetheritecow 2 года назад +32

    i find this whole report system really stupid, because most multiplayer servers where majority of the chats are, have moderation teams and we don't need anything more than that as its their jobs and they control what is said and who gets punished for it

  • @mxnokuma4335
    @mxnokuma4335 Год назад +2

    Alright, here is how to crack the entire report system:
    1: Create a singleplayer world with your alt account
    2: Use macro to spam report a generated player that was created using plugins or commands
    3: If there is a cooldown, get more bots that do the same thing

  • @lightning_11
    @lightning_11 2 года назад +3

    I love how many activities you can play in Minecraft. It's like the ultimate buy one get ten games free experience for me. You make a great point (one that I haven't seen elsewhere).

  • @DogzRGodz
    @DogzRGodz 2 года назад +9

    I hope mojang either can implement it with context for the staff and do it well (kinda like hypixel atlas replays but like between games, between servers, etc) or they just don’t implement it at all. If they do end up implementing it, I personally will use mods to remove it or if that’s not possible, I will just do redstone in single player or just play on older versions.

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад +1

      But then there’s the millions and millions of active players. Take roblox for example. Have you SEEN their moderation? Moderators would not put their time and effort i to reading hours of logs for an individual user. This system sucks garbage and shouldn’t be implemented at all.

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад

      You would need hundreds of thousands of moderators to investigate these reports and many more for the annoying mass amounts of fake appeals.

  • @fuzzbuzz2968
    @fuzzbuzz2968 2 года назад +2

    I don't like the fact Microsoft is now going over to java and trying to fix something

  • @kajetus0688
    @kajetus0688 2 года назад +2

    Servers will get a plugin which disabled chat reporting
    and people will make modified versions to bypass bans

    • @florianb.4401
      @florianb.4401 2 года назад

      That's also a reason, why the system won't work in Java Edition. Because you can mod the whole game. There's always a way to bypass the system.

  • @parzflash1619
    @parzflash1619 2 года назад +3

    now i have to be nice to idiots on skyblock that try to rat or scam me

    • @Th3cosmic_
      @Th3cosmic_ 2 года назад

      If u get a necrons handle you cant be excitied like OMG GOT NECRONS HANDLE!!!
      Its considered yelling and you can get banned. You have to type: oh my gosh (cant say god or banned) i was so lucky i got necrons handle!
      Bruh.

    • @parzflash1619
      @parzflash1619 2 года назад

      @@Th3cosmic_ i got chat muted for saying i put necrons handle in sadans hole

  • @bobfiddledoodle824
    @bobfiddledoodle824 2 года назад +6

    Although I agree with you on most things, I will disagree with you when I say that this feature IS a huge deal and could see the end of minecraft multiplayer. (AT least for servers updated past 1.18). Because on bedrock you can get banned from single player and multiplayer on a private realm wirh just you and your friends. So keep in mind, on a realm you PAY FOR, you can get banned for saying whatever you're saying with friends. Where said friends know what is joking and what isn't. It's ridiculous. And the moderation for bedrock has always been so bad. When it launched i was shadowbanned for almost 2 years on servers. It's only a matter of time before they bring all of this shit to java

  • @melo-7904
    @melo-7904 Год назад +2

    Well that’s when we just all agree to just use either
    1. Make the servers to a modified version that doesn’t sign the text
    2. Just use discord

  • @Primeified_
    @Primeified_ 2 года назад +4

    Simple solution: Delete the Minecraft chat system entirely.

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 2 года назад

      Ah the way youtube would solve the problem looking at you dislike button

    • @florianb.4401
      @florianb.4401 2 года назад

      Or: Just make it impossible to get banned.

  • @sol2354
    @sol2354 2 года назад +4

    they should only implement this on realms

  • @frank-yp9br
    @frank-yp9br Год назад +4

    This needs to be removed forever, we need to protest.

  • @bryanchen4435
    @bryanchen4435 2 года назад +2

    I have some concerns because it is definitely easy for the ability to constantly report every message in chat to be added to some hack client. Another thing I realized is that this might all be an elaborate plan for them to make more profit because people might buy more accounts if banned.

  • @TacoSharkBoi
    @TacoSharkBoi 2 года назад +8

    Long ago I had a very laggy computer. When I would play any game on hypixel, I would basically be flying around the match. So it's no surprise I got false banned for 90 days. I was so angry, especially when I tried to appeal it and got denied. This is to say, false bans can happen to anyone, so I agree with the points you brought up. Great vid as always :)

  • @NotVeryGoodAtThis
    @NotVeryGoodAtThis 2 года назад +3

    im not even gonna talk about the report system. what im gonna talk about is how funny omicron is. the league of legends and overwatch jokes really got me. you earned another sub king

  • @realtechhacks
    @realtechhacks 2 года назад +3

    This is the wrong decision. It should as it had always been left up to the servers. I don't care how much of a toxic, terrible person you're being on your server that you own (unless of course it goes outside of simply being toxic in minecraft and to something materially bad.) I'm in favor of moderation as strict or as lenient or as nonexistant as the server owner wants. Do I want these toxic people to be banned from the server I'm on? Yes. Will I leave the server if they aren't? Yes. Do I want them banned from minecraft multiplayer in general? Absolutely not.

  • @dork4202
    @dork4202 2 года назад +2

    cant believe update 1984 dropped

  • @brawojtas
    @brawojtas 2 года назад

    I can agree. There are a lot of issues with the system.
    Yet if i had to change things, making bans actually for time and not forever and fixing some of the reasons to report

  • @dixiedawg.
    @dixiedawg. 2 года назад +8

    this is actually dumb, WHY does Minecraft have to do this, and as person that has spent over 600$ on their account im especially worried about this, I hope they change this or something, even those it’s probably Microsoft or whatever making them doing this but still, mine just keeps going down and down and I hope they add something good sometime, great video. also you said it costs 27$ but put a ss that says it’s 29$, nice job omicron

    • @Shad0wygamer
      @Shad0wygamer 2 года назад

      the price use to be 26.95 but because of the bedrock java merge thing its 29.99 now

    • @unavailableun
      @unavailableun 2 года назад

      *29.99

    • @dixiedawg.
      @dixiedawg. 2 года назад

      @@unavailableun yeah Ik lmao, but it’s obvious that I ment that lol.

  • @benzoboyy
    @benzoboyy 2 года назад +5

    The fact is minecraft is so boring letterly so if there is any one who will banned he will say "oh, i got banned, i don't really care, i'll go and play some other games"
    And thats how microsoft will lose their minecraft customers.

    • @HungryWarden
      @HungryWarden 11 месяцев назад

      Minecraft isn’t boring, you’re boring.
      I was so confused about what you meant by “Letterly” but then I realized you meant “Literally.” How come nobody knows how to spell.

    • @HungryWarden
      @HungryWarden 11 месяцев назад

      *spell?

    • @benzoboyy
      @benzoboyy 11 месяцев назад

      @@HungryWarden lmao
      It's been a year ago since i posted that comment
      Im arabic so my english isn't that good ofc
      Also im one of the biggest fans of minecraft I actually have a minecraft account and Im having so much fun playing it
      It's just a comment of something I don't like about microsoft
      So chill 💀
      You also kept bullying me about how I spell and forgot about the main idea that i want to share
      GROW UP!

  • @lool8421
    @lool8421 2 года назад +2

    1. there shouldn't be a global banning system, but rather servers could choose their "levels of restrictions" so for example ppl banned for swearing can still join servers like 2b2t (since chat is alr stupidly toxic there) or your own servers, but some servers could just not let those people in
    2. reporting system should also send 10 previous messages and up to 10 next messages for context and "no ban" should be the default thing to avoid false bans
    3. rather than banning immediately, there should be some striking system, so you have to get reported on multiple servers (you're toxic in general, not just on that server) and you know if you messed up
    4. this reporting most likely is gonna decrease the sales of the game and heavily increase the piracy rates, since a cracked version at least allows cracked servers (rather than banning all servers) and paying for the game doesn't really give any benefits

    • @Gamer-nc8qp
      @Gamer-nc8qp 2 года назад

      oh they are coming after cracked servers and clients next. i started my career with hack v hack servers and shit. its really sad

  • @cg7407
    @cg7407 2 года назад +2

    imo they should only mute players (e.g. remove chatting feature unless its a command (this way servers who want to ignore these mutes could still print messages via the players doin /say commands from plugins / datapacks or minecraft could just let servers decide themselves if they want to use the mute feature via some server settings)) and not ban them (especially since its paid)
    also i wonder if mod / client devs are gonna find loopholes to get past these bans

  • @alexboyce5517
    @alexboyce5517 2 года назад +5

    This video is just Omicron roasting every toxic game ever, and also giving a great showing as to why the ban system is meh at best

  • @hamishthehero6872
    @hamishthehero6872 2 года назад +4

    I wonder if someone could make a mod that could circumvent the system

    • @pastaaura925
      @pastaaura925 2 года назад

      Maybe a serverside mod but you cant do that clientside because other players can report you

    • @amongsussyballs
      @amongsussyballs 2 года назад +2

      @@pastaaura925 servers could definetly get around this by sending chat through the server and not the actual players

  • @bajabajab6571
    @bajabajab6571 2 года назад +2

    1. i think it should be a mute not a ban
    2. although it could be like a month ban(which i think is still extreme) for some things it shouldn't be permanent

  • @LunaStarlun
    @LunaStarlun 2 года назад +2

    It's just a death threat in Minecraft, not in real life

  • @diamondyoshi6649
    @diamondyoshi6649 2 года назад +3

    "What should be done"
    More players should use anti-report fabric mods.

  • @Thomassdoor
    @Thomassdoor 2 года назад +6

    I probably shouldn’t be worried about this, but I am. I’m scared of typing in multiplayer chat now this is going to be implemented. Of course, they are trying to fix the rules based off of the player concerns, but even then, I find it really frightening. I do feel Microsoft has good intent, but if they execute it wrong, it will not only have a big effect on the entire player base, but also the company itself.

    • @CatJaam
      @CatJaam 2 года назад

      Microsoft does not have good intent. They are just a greedy power hungry company that doesn't care about players. The only thing they care about is the money.

  • @tantalix6650
    @tantalix6650 Год назад +1

    I still remember the old 1.8.0 and 1.7.10 times, they where simple and the prime of Minecraft…

  • @CreatorProductionsOriginal
    @CreatorProductionsOriginal 2 года назад +1

    I feel like a good “fix” for most of the problems/the main problem is to implement a feature that makes the mods get the message and context, like things that same person said and even your messages to make sure you’re not the wrong one falsely reporting or reporting because you got mad
    So the mods could go like “this guy reported guy2 for saying shut up, but before that guy1 spammed GG ez”

  • @lightning_11
    @lightning_11 2 года назад +5

    I like the _idea_ behind the report system, but it seems like it should be significantly more *optional.*

  • @Mystic-yt2lk
    @Mystic-yt2lk 2 года назад +5

    id like it if individual servers were given a rating of how child friendly they were, and what less child friendly topic are often discussed - cause b2t players will all be banned otherwise :(

  • @the_devolper
    @the_devolper Год назад

    i think that they should add an option in the server configuration that activates or not their report system, so that someone banned could continue to play in servers that don't have it active and cant be banned in those servers: obviously when a server deactivates the option it has to be flagged as "unsecure" and younger players can't play in it without the consens of the parents

  • @itsazien
    @itsazien 2 года назад +2

    tbh hopefully mojang reconsider the decision but the odds of them cancelling this feature = winning a lottery

    • @savinggrace2750
      @savinggrace2750 2 года назад

      Your funny. I could win 20 lottery’s in a row before they cancel this feature

  • @therealgyro
    @therealgyro 2 года назад +3

    Bedrock is a deeply flawed version, with hundreds, thousands of bugs that aren't getting fixed. Random deaths, instakill coordinates, false bans from multilayer and existing single player worlds are a small part of the issues with bedrock edition. Sure, slightly earlier access to some updates and cross version multilayer is great! But bringing java closer to bedrock edition just makes it a worse game. A lot of people on bedrock are scared of using chat, because random bans are such a frequent thing.
    The "highly trained staff" that is reviewing the chat messages often bans people without knowing the context and the type of server it was written on.

    • @therealgyro
      @therealgyro 2 года назад

      Also realm subscriptions aren't automatically cancelled when you get banned so that's a thing.

    • @1000-THR_Benjamin
      @1000-THR_Benjamin 2 года назад

      @@therealgyro i mean they are a shitty company that milks users

    • @bruh12458
      @bruh12458 2 года назад +1

      no offense but as a bedrock player I have no idea what you mean by random deaths and instakill coordanites, sure there's false bans but that's on the servers end

    • @therealgyro
      @therealgyro 2 года назад

      @@bruh12458 example for coordinates: x:65536 z:65535, you fall through the world, and for random deaths something that happened to me quite often when I played in survival was that I randomly took damage and it said "I hit the ground too hard". Often I was for example exploring, I fell down 2 blocks, at full health, and just died when I shouldn't even have taken damage.

    • @therealgyro
      @therealgyro 2 года назад

      @@bruh12458 another thing I experienced a few times was not responding next to my bed, but above the world spawn high up in the air, and then continously dying of fall damage.

  • @lionclient4369
    @lionclient4369 2 года назад +3

    I HATE NEW CHAT SYSTEM #ENDOFMINECRAFT

  • @am_epikcarrot2758
    @am_epikcarrot2758 2 года назад +1

    ITS 40 DOLLERS HERE IN AUSTRALIA SO IF I GET BANNED I WILL GO INTO CRIPPLING DEPRESSION

  • @greengrassgaming2530
    @greengrassgaming2530 2 года назад

    Ive already got falsley banned in bedrock and im super upset to see this coming now that its 100% locked behind paywall as i cant just reset the app data

  • @Elementening
    @Elementening Год назад +3

    i highly doubt this is a mojang choice, mojang actually trusts their community to run their own servers. microsoft seems to think otherwise. like even just a mute system would be perfectly fine, but seriously being banned from multiplayer is awful. obviously for people actually breaking the rules badly, they should be banned but this is 100% going to bring false bans.
    i just hope minecraft doesnt become like roblox, with its nonsensical moderation. i literally got banned because my game was "innapropriate" when it was literally the default game and was private lol
    ps. they denied my appeal so that account is lost forever

  • @realdiddyboo
    @realdiddyboo 2 года назад +1

    The best part about the community standards thing is that i was forced to migrate my java because I didn't want to go under the microsoft tos. And they do it anyway.

  • @randomalexskin7076
    @randomalexskin7076 2 года назад +1

    This is dangerous if messages are out of context

  • @immejor508
    @immejor508 2 года назад

    When I got the notification I clicked it so fast that the video wasn't even showing up on your channel yet and the video playback was broken

  • @projectgenex8057
    @projectgenex8057 Год назад

    Actually I've banned a person once for hacking in the server and I thought it wouldn't work but couple of day's later I've never seen that person again

  • @tsft_
    @tsft_ 2 года назад +2

    Discord is just going to get more popular because people cant be reported in voice chat

  • @Rye-Bread
    @Rye-Bread 2 года назад +1

    thats exactly my problem. there is no reason to have the feature because almost all servers already have it.

  • @Huhhh0.0
    @Huhhh0.0 2 года назад +1

    Quick question: when you are muted you can only play single player, can you still open that single player world to LAN? It’s kinda like multiplayer

  • @fuel498lucky3
    @fuel498lucky3 2 года назад

    Its not only the fear of getting banned but also your friends and other players could be banned and then you would have no one to play with.

  • @ZellieOwO
    @ZellieOwO 2 года назад

    what i think they should do for the reporting system to exist; they have commands to enable and disable the microsoft system, so what I think will happen at least I hope they disable you from joining servers with the feature enabled; and allow you to do it with stuff like servers that you own or hypixel who are their own company with their own rules

  • @mromg8282
    @mromg8282 2 года назад

    I may be late but I saw someone mentioning it and I think people should be aware of this: what will happen to the uncensored library?

  • @Grey4lol
    @Grey4lol Год назад +1

    I can imagine the entire Minecraft community starts financially attacking Microsoft

  • @Jantendo08
    @Jantendo08 Год назад

    I heard about a plugin in wich the normal chat is completely shut down and a new one is implemented by the plugin

  • @__shaz
    @__shaz 2 года назад

    The swearing part is good that its in the gray, On hypixel you can turn on the filter and turn it off so its depended on the player of what they want themselves. Now we don't know what minecraft will do if we swear or not

  • @tallyikroe2476
    @tallyikroe2476 Год назад

    One idea is for online multiplayer server's in the same vain as hypixel will go through a trial period to determine if they're moderation system needs to be overhauled, Where Hypixel will be a no but servers like shotbow would absolutely be a server that should have their moderation replaced

  • @itsyamal2595
    @itsyamal2595 Год назад +1

    6:38 THAT DUDE CLUTCHED HOW LOL

  • @user-tu9tl7cg1w
    @user-tu9tl7cg1w 2 года назад

    In one of the servers I play in they think everything is spam.I lost a game and I wrote "noooo".The next game which i also managed to lose like 5 minutes after the "noooo" I wrote it again and it didn't let me send it because it is a spam....WTF man

  • @dylanpark445
    @dylanpark445 2 года назад

    hi Omicron i love ur vids, but i have a question. I saw ur comments in Valorant videos. so do you play Valorant?

  • @EZJCat2
    @EZJCat2 2 года назад

    the thing is you could be playing with a real life friend who you know the age of in a server you created and saying things maybe not appropriate for ten year olds but it’s just you and your friend and you could be banned. other than that and false bans im fine with this update, though i haven’t researched it much

  • @mozvi1436
    @mozvi1436 Год назад

    Even in previous update you had a message when you clicked on the multiplayer tab that advised caution about all the problems that come with servers.
    If the kids decide to ignore that message, that's already not on the devs.
    If Minecraft wants to be kid-friendly, then this chat report system is already out of the picture.

  • @aarishfaisal4150
    @aarishfaisal4150 Год назад +2

    I’m literally not gonna talk in chat as much anymore

  • @AsterLight
    @AsterLight 2 года назад

    Nobody:
    Big companies: doing things nobody wants to fix problems that don't exist

  • @lightning_11
    @lightning_11 2 года назад +2

    The fact that the report system sends some "context" messages along with the reported messages should help. Hopefully, the mods will be competent and realize what's going on when given a message asking about how to farm cane. I don't want to have to trust Mojang with my multiplayer future, but we don't seem to have much of a choice right now.

    • @AndrewPacketikov
      @AndrewPacketikov 2 года назад +1

      выбор есть всегда, если они введут это нововведение, то я просто удалю свою лицензионное издание майнкрафта и буду играть на пиратской версии, не нужно спонсировать обновления которые вам не нравятся, если разработчики не понимают по хорошему, то нужно обьяснить им языком денег.

    • @notzaldy
      @notzaldy 2 года назад

      @@AndrewPacketikov Multiplayer moment 😔

  • @HungryWarden
    @HungryWarden 11 месяцев назад +1

    It’s at the point where I’m afraid to play servers on Bedrock.

  • @SilentHalt
    @SilentHalt 2 года назад

    Nahh man, what you said about ow was dirty, but I agree with it 100%...
    Also great video overall, I'm pretty much always out of the loop when it comes to anything new really so this is the first time I'm hearing about this.

  • @sebbog
    @sebbog Год назад

    They should instead make it so you are on a watchlist so servers look a bit more at you specificly and not so much on everyone else and if after that you do something that breaks the server rules you get banned from that server

  • @gregorydoyouseethesmallven5635
    @gregorydoyouseethesmallven5635 Год назад +1

    What I’ve wondered about this system is, what if you get banned and go on a previous version of minecraft? Since that version has no chat reports could you still play?

    • @BEAST_69
      @BEAST_69 Год назад

      It depends on your account

  • @drmz_
    @drmz_ 2 года назад +2

    This report system can be abused so hard, a player can get banned for saying something in a pvp server along the lines of: "can you come fight me so i can kill you already?"
    And that can be taken in multiple ways. If thats said on a PvP server then its fine, if its said on a chill community building server then its not ok.
    An update like this frustrates me a lot, I feel like its not needed, servers been enforcing rules since the start of multiplayer. And the servers, if its a pvp server, ofc they are gonna know that the message is fine.