If you're loved but not known - that's superficial. If you're known but not loved - that's our greatest nightmare but to be known to the bottom and yet loved to the sky - that's life itself. 🙏🏻 That's the love Jesus offers - so humbling
Yes, I am learning SO much, and I have to come back again and again to learn more. They have brought me so much closer to the Father and Jesus. I am thankful to have found them.
I'm binging on Mr Keller's RUclips vids. Just only saw them a few days ago. I NEED this. I need to listen to real Gospel. I'm honestly sick and tired of these preachers who have a congregation clap for them at the end of almost every single sentence they say. God bless you, sir! I'm going to get your books. Thank you so much!
i’m very thankful you found Tim Keller! I read The Prodigal God’ about a year ago...stirring....beautiful....life-changing. please pray for him, he has been diagnosed with cancer. God bless you in these days. 1 Peter 4:7
These talks are absolutely amazing. I come back to them every couple of months, and everytime I do its like I'm hearing them afresh for the first time. They just have that much depth.
"If you’re loved, but not known . . . that’s superficial. If you’re known but not loved-if someone sees who you are and then rejects you-that’s our greatest nightmare. But to be known to the bottom and yet loved to the sky, that’s life itself. And you know, when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane, the people He was dying for was represented by His wonderful disciples who kept falling asleep on Him. And He kept saying, 'Won’t you keep awake? This is the hour of my greatest need? I’m about to die. I’m in the Garden of Gethsemane. Won’t you please stay awake with me?' And every time, they kept falling asleep. At one point He says, 'The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.' How tender. You might say the human race is letting Him down at the moment of His greatest need and you know what He says to us? 'I know you meant well. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.' So tender. And then He goes to the cross and He looks down at people denying Him, betraying Him, abandoning Him, mocking Him, and in the greatest act of love in the history of the world, He stayed. He looked all the way into the bottom of our hearts. He knew exactly what we were capable of. He saw the weakness. He saw us to the bottom but He loved us to the skies. And the knowledge of that can liberate you from the things that enslave you. And I hope you see that something is; something's enslaving you. You do not belong to yourself. Jesus Christ says, 'I'm the only master that will not disappoint you if you get Me, and I will forgive you when you fail me, and you will fail me.'" 💜
Mr. Keller's points are well made here, however the statement that I've heard so often from Christian speakers that either the speaker himself, or sometimes the "preacher's we" is employed when saying that "We were so bad that only the Son of God could save me/us by dying on the cross," is incongruent and misleading. Things and people that are bad have lost their value, and the price for these would depreciate accordingly. The implication seems to be an ultimate loss of value requiring an ultimate payment, but this makes no sense, because the buyer loses his investment or in this case suffers the consequences of the deal, and there is no return in exchange for his trouble since those whom he purchased had no value to begin with, and he cannot replace their essence with his own without violating the law - thou shalt not steal. This is not the meaning of Christianity. Only the Son of God was worth enough to purchase the debts - and the assets - of a even a single person, and indeed worth enough to pay for the accounts of everyone. But he didn't do it because we were "bad" i.e. valueless. To the contrary, Jesus gave his life in painstaking ministry and suffered death because we were and are worth more to him than fleshly life itself - sins included. God does have a reason for allowing sin even though he doesn't like it - and He isn't about to apologize to you for that. The issue of good and evil was hanging from a tree in the garden. God allowed access to that knowledge, but using it for sustenance is forbidden. It is impossible to estimate the value of any person. And Jesus didn't base his sacrifice on our value or lack thereof. My love for God isn't some maudlin gratitude for the grisly death he suffered because I'm terrible - I'm not so grandiose, but instead I admire how he demonstrated the real reason he allows all the terrible things in life - by becoming the thing that could only exist if he did so, he became authentic, and in that authenticity he suffered the consequences of his own design. Therefore God rightly took responsibility for every single injustice that ever occured, because he knows that it is he himself who started all this in the first place. That satisfies me. I need no other justice. All I'm left with is an adoration for God's magnificence, courage, reality, and astonishing beauty. Because any other way of creating a world could only be a deterministic nightmare designed by an infantile and narcissistic tyrannical devil. Oh, and by the way, there's plenty of them out there too, so take notice and be forewarned. As for the Prince of Darkness himself, all I can say is I'm standing in the batter's box, so go ahead and pitch boy, and I'll hit it right back.
Tim understands human nature more then any other preacher I’ve ever heard
If you're loved but not known - that's superficial. If you're known but not loved - that's our greatest nightmare but to be known to the bottom and yet loved to the sky - that's life itself. 🙏🏻 That's the love Jesus offers - so humbling
Yes, I am learning SO much, and I have to come back again and again to learn more. They have brought me so much closer to the Father and Jesus. I am thankful to have found them.
I'm binging on Mr Keller's RUclips vids. Just only saw them a few days ago. I NEED this. I need to listen to real Gospel. I'm honestly sick and tired of these preachers who have a congregation clap for them at the end of almost every single sentence they say. God bless you, sir! I'm going to get your books. Thank you so much!
listen to David Pawson as well.. on youtube and on www.davidpawson.org
i’m very thankful you found Tim Keller! I read The Prodigal God’ about a year ago...stirring....beautiful....life-changing. please pray for him, he has been diagnosed with cancer. God bless you in these days. 1 Peter 4:7
Yes please flee false teaching ,
congregations should never clap at the preacher , time and place but that’s a very tell sign that you mentioned
These talks are absolutely amazing. I come back to them every couple of months, and everytime I do its like I'm hearing them afresh for the first time. They just have that much depth.
RIP Keller
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Tims approach to preaching has transformed my relationship with The Lord, we are so blessed to have him alive.
man, these talks are amazing!
Seems to me that ALL the lectures by Tim Keller are awesome!!!
This is life changing!!
We may not realize that Jesus is all we need until Jesus is all we have, when we really can’t please others or solve our own problems.
This was so great but now “let it go” is stuck in my head.
"If you’re loved, but not known . . . that’s superficial. If you’re known but not loved-if someone sees who you are and then rejects you-that’s our greatest nightmare. But to be known to the bottom and yet loved to the sky, that’s life itself.
And you know, when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane, the people He was dying for was represented by His wonderful disciples who kept falling asleep on Him. And He kept saying, 'Won’t you keep awake? This is the hour of my greatest need? I’m about to die. I’m in the Garden of Gethsemane. Won’t you please stay awake with me?' And every time, they kept falling asleep. At one point He says, 'The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.' How tender. You might say the human race is letting Him down at the moment of His greatest need and you know what He says to us? 'I know you meant well. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.' So tender.
And then He goes to the cross and He looks down at people denying Him, betraying Him, abandoning Him, mocking Him, and in the greatest act of love in the history of the world, He stayed. He looked all the way into the bottom of our hearts. He knew exactly what we were capable of. He saw the weakness. He saw us to the bottom but He loved us to the skies. And the knowledge of that can liberate you from the things that enslave you. And I hope you see that something is; something's enslaving you. You do not belong to yourself. Jesus Christ says, 'I'm the only master that will not disappoint you if you get Me, and I will forgive you when you fail me, and you will fail me.'" 💜
What you wrote is amazing and such a gift to read. Thank you.
Thank you sharing!
amazing talk.
I would love an audio transcript of this.
All of these lectures are seperate chapters in his book Making Sense of God.
Hey there if you go to www.diycaptions.com/php/get_captions_and_subtitles_as_text.php?id=yusWbIc8DhY you can get subtitles for any video
@@chriscravens8318 thank you. I'm on a hunt for his books. Just discovered him a few days ago and can't wait to read his books.
2 year old grand daughter!!!!! She sings the Frozen songs!!!!!
Someone forgot to ask the most important question: 'where does Tim Keller get his hair cut'?
Does anyone know which of Tim Keller’s books has these sermons in it?
Making Sense of God
The Reason For God and Makeing Sense Of God
Ernest Randolph “Making Sense of God”?
Watch Tim Keller here - 48:47 through 49:O9 - that's how freeing from the ego Christianity is.
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Mr. Keller's points are well made here, however the statement that I've heard so often from Christian speakers that either the speaker himself, or sometimes the "preacher's we" is employed when saying that "We were so bad that only the Son of God could save me/us by dying on the cross," is incongruent and misleading. Things and people that are bad have lost their value, and the price for these would depreciate accordingly. The implication seems to be an ultimate loss of value requiring an ultimate payment, but this makes no sense, because the buyer loses his investment or in this case suffers the consequences of the deal, and there is no return in exchange for his trouble since those whom he purchased had no value to begin with, and he cannot replace their essence with his own without violating the law - thou shalt not steal. This is not the meaning of Christianity. Only the Son of God was worth enough to purchase the debts - and the assets - of a even a single person, and indeed worth enough to pay for the accounts of everyone. But he didn't do it because we were "bad" i.e. valueless. To the contrary, Jesus gave his life in painstaking ministry and suffered death because we were and are worth more to him than fleshly life itself - sins included. God does have a reason for allowing sin even though he doesn't like it - and He isn't about to apologize to you for that. The issue of good and evil was hanging from a tree in the garden. God allowed access to that knowledge, but using it for sustenance is forbidden. It is impossible to estimate the value of any person. And Jesus didn't base his sacrifice on our value or lack thereof. My love for God isn't some maudlin gratitude for the grisly death he suffered because I'm terrible - I'm not so grandiose, but instead I admire how he demonstrated the real reason he allows all the terrible things in life - by becoming the thing that could only exist if he did so, he became authentic, and in that authenticity he suffered the consequences of his own design. Therefore God rightly took responsibility for every single injustice that ever occured, because he knows that it is he himself who started all this in the first place. That satisfies me. I need no other justice. All I'm left with is an adoration for God's magnificence, courage, reality, and astonishing beauty. Because any other way of creating a world could only be a deterministic nightmare designed by an infantile and narcissistic tyrannical devil. Oh, and by the way, there's plenty of them out there too, so take notice and be forewarned. As for the Prince of Darkness himself, all I can say is I'm standing in the batter's box, so go ahead and pitch boy, and I'll hit it right back.
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