Riders SUFFER When MVDP Goes to WORK
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From Treads: MvdP drops off Philipsen like "if you don't win this, the bus is leaving without you today."😅
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You are the only guy who actually delivered a clear explanation of what happened to Cav. It's a mystery why one moment he's in good position but then he's just gone. In the after race interviews he himself even doesn't hold a full picture of what had happened. He just said he don't know why his teamates just drove off and his teamates said they don't even know why he's not there, they were shocked when they look back and couldn't find him. It looks like a mis-coodination but at this level this just feels so strange. Now you solved the mystery. Just bad luck, Cav!
@@xuchenglin6256 I'm not sure everyone interpreted Chris's explanation the way you did.
Jonas making the start and his performance in the first 2 stages shows great courage and a great champion. Now he is showing his intelligence. Plus he's not being baited into making stupid tactics/comments.
That is a great summary right there!
CHRIS, YOU NEED TO BE ON NBC/PEACOCK! I discovered the TdF the year you started NBC and have been addicted ever since, thanks in part to your commentary, you're the best at it, huge cheers.
Actually, he was. But as Chris put it, he fired him. He was the best commentator on Peacock.
@@slayer6936what did he mean by that?
Have said for over a year, can't call people names, knuckleheads and expect to be out on national TV. He just cut himself off by doing so
@@thesuperheroteacher6101 Considering I've seen two flopping penises on the TdF since I started watching, it's disappointing that that would be the reason. The names never phased me at all, he's there to give opinion. Maybe "bonehead" would've been more PC...
The unwashed masses would rather feel good than hear facts.
Pogacar’s strategy for his first TDF win was sit in Roglic’s wheel for the entire tour then take it from him at the end. Funny Pogi talking about Jonas watching his wheel as his strategy now. Funny when the tide turns the other way.
Did you watch that years race?
Just the way it is....some things won't change. And I love it.
He did not @@J-cz7yv
@@J-cz7yv sure did
@@migssantino2101 right 😉
Chris, I love your direction and commentary. If there's one thing I learned, that I absolutely loved about competitive cycling, is the teamwork and the tactics needed to win. I'm a small guy and was a good climber (not a power rider or sprinter) and for me... it was all about energy conservation, tactics and power management.
Loving it Chris, everybody got their version of the race. As the saying goes two sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Exactly. I almost died laughing when Nico said (while responding to Cav’s half sided story). Fun, how Cav saw that race. I remember it differently. Somehow Cav didn’t even remember Alberto being in the break. Nico must have really been hurt after he was the one doing all of the pulling (his version of the story) and now he’s a commentator thinking, oh yes here is my story but Cav doesn’t even mention him and takes all of the credit. 😂😂😂🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCyclingtotally... enjoyed your take plus your admission you won't necessarily remember everything exactly right either 👍🦋👊
"UAE if they have the big balls" lolol.
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@@ChrisHornerCycling so TJV need to make a Strava segment on the TDF course called Big Balls so UAE will be forced to KOM it. Copy! Seriously, thanks for explaining all the nuanced tactics. It is an education.
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I think Pog corrected himself a little towards the end in that pre-race interview when he added to his previous comments, "In the Tour de France, racing intelligence is important, but above all you need good legs to win the Tour.” He certainly raced quite intelligently in the Giro, when despite his overwhelming advantage, he tried to conserve energy by not trying to win all the mountain stages.
Yup! But his innocuous stint about wheel watching is a part of the mind game too...
When you see Jonas follow Tadej's wheel when he is getting a bottle, you can say that Jonas is watching only one wheel
Thank you Chris! It is not only the knowledge you have but the are of making it so interesting!!
You're awesome Chris! So true about storytime. The amount of story telling on RUclips right now is gushing. So great. Very grateful to you 🙌👊🦋
In some ways Tadej reminds me of Alberto Contador, impetuous to a fault, extremely talented, but trying to win with talent alone at times. Going into this second week it will be telling how he works with his teammates to mitigate his use of matches when not needed. Jonas has been very impressive as expected being tactical. I still believe Pogi will win this if he utilizes his team properly.
In climbing aspect I agree. Tadej is like Contador and Jonas like Froome.
Jonas Vingegaard wants to be "present " when the big long climbs arrive, if he has the shape, it's there that he can win time ! We'll have to wait until the decisive stages come!!
@SuperNoname17. JV has to attack at some point. Do not expect it tomorrow.
@@LABoyko If I were TP, I just sit behind JV for the next 11 stage, he have the 1 min lead!
@@mracer8 Pogi tried that last year and got dropped, although this year Vingegaard's form is much more of a question mark
Exactly. Jonas is hoping and waiting as long as possible that his best legs return. 🤔🤞🦋👊
@@inkjazzAnd Pog was the injured one coming into the 2023 race.
I like the little war of words about riding style and such cuz styles make fights. Jonas is type 1 cardio beast and pogo is more type 2 burst so it’s an interesting fight for yellow.
Appreciate all the riders! They contributed so much to the fans.
Yes they do. 👊🦋
Sick joke,.
But the joke is on the fans for the 4th time
@@hugopiteira405 OK seriously-how could this go any other way?
@@hugopiteira405 ?
@@Moishe555 I have already replied your simple question, Im on different time zone.
You forgot to mention Aleksandr Vlasov didn’t start today! :(
One of Roglic’s Lieutenant abandons the race! :(
Chris, hurry up - we can't WAIT for the Stage 11 episode!
Talking about tactics, but of a different type: (1) it’s impressive the amount of public support Visma lost when winning their 3rd grand tour last year, (2) it’s even more impressive how Jonas does not manage to get more public support with such a great comeback story after the crash
Today’s stage reminded me of a last stage ride into the champs where everyone is just chilling half the time.
I got more stuff done around the house and even had time to wash my bike. Good thing the computer is portable. At least you know the finish will be good. 👊🦋
Thanks for this breakdown
Your content is so informative and interesting. Thank you for making these videos, they have helped to get me more into cycling.
Glad to hear you are enjoying them. 👊🦋
Please talk about the role Landa is going to play. It’s an underrated story line. Barely a note about such a critical role he may play heading into to the mountains in a role he has played before. That is a true butterfly effect! BTW, thanks for the saddle all those years ago that helped me on RAAM.
Looks like Landa was there when his captain came back on the final climb and he was able to give him what he needed to protect his finish. Go Landa!
I almost wonder if today was riders protesting by taking it easy after a chaotic gravel stage and lots of road furniture poorly placed on route this year 🧐
Good call
I just kinda take everything Chris says up there on The Butterfly Effect to be the most true version of the truth, perspective be damned. 🛋️🦋
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I wish I could watch these video all year every day
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Jasper Phillipsen is one of the best sprinters in the world for a few years already, now on a finish like today and with a lead out of his team that was perfect, he had 95% chances to win the stage today, and with more than a bike advance! However to go for the green jersey it's another matter if nothing special comes!!
Let’s be professional, the intermediate sprint was very risky because of Yasper Phillipson. The committee have to look every move of this guy. He is very dangerous. He doesn’t care about the one who’s compete with him
Is the TDF waiting for another Fabio Jakobsen-type accident before they act? Sure sprinting is dangerous but this seems to be the MO from Philipsen.....
Remember 2022,now Vingegaard knows they could do the same to him ,Pogacar could attack, Remco also ,Roglic ,Ayuso ,Rodriguez Almeida, this year it's not only his shape the problem, his team can't respond to many attacks ,then what !!! Pogacar knows very well how he was attacked in 2022 ,like visma today ,his team at the time couldn't respond to all those moves !!
Pogi’s teammates from UAE did respond but Pogi rode them right back out of the group again.😱🦋🤔
Can't wait for the last week of Big Balls Knuckleheads Stages. Chris you're a LEGEND!
Chris has big Balls
Thanks Chris and Garrett
Just catching up with the full stage, nothing at all happening we're 44km away... behind the curve! Looking forward to this after 👍🦋👍
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I like your perspective! because you raced at the highest level.
Respect ❤
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Jonas has followed every single attack from pogacar this tour so yes, he is absolutely wheel watching.
I actually fell asleep yesterday while watching the stage :D that was a solid 2h nap
Love the “big balls” comment at the end. 👍
I like to watch Chris before I watch the replay.
If I'm not mistaken, amount of balls is inversely correlated with TdF wins, right?
That was some low-hangin-pun fruit right there.
*number of balls, weight does not matter
Logic would suggest that 😂.
I love the smack talk. 👊🦋😂❤️
Amount? 2 is the universally accepted number man, anything different than that is an anomaly 😂😂
Remco gave Jonas corkboard stuff and everyone else big ball quotes. 😂😂😂
@@ericvonhellens8822 Remco is a legend. watch now everyone talking about balls the entire Tour. 😂
2013 - Cav - Nico/Saxo & Mollema/Belkin all have stories.. like the classic movie - Rashomon -where even the "dead" are invited to tell their version
The wisdom of Mr Horner…I’m not worthy 🚴
Completely pointless stage.Can’t they just write down the names of the 10 most probable winners, toss them into a hat, shake it a bit and then- Congrats Jasper, you win, outstanding job, now please everyone go back to rest.
Slept throughout all of it except for the last 10 km.
Today however has the potential to be a true gem.
Nope, it’s still racing and match burning.
@@tonycrabtree3416 If nobody is watching, what kinda racing is it? A bit philosophical question. 😅
Can't wait for your comments on today stage (11) !! Full
knuckleheadisim UAE i guess 😮
another team that ride the echelons on that day in 2013 was Belkin, the former Visma team, with Bauke Mollema and Laurens ten Dam (Bau and Lau), who ended up in the top 10 that year in the GC. I think Mollema ended up 3rd in that stage behind Sagan and Cavendish.
This channel should be renamed to VINGEGAARD FAN CLUB CHRIS HORNER
We're almost halfway through the TdfF, and only 4 riders have dropped out. Is that a record?
However, I doubt we'll continue this trend until the finish. The last sprint stage is stage 16, next Tuesday. After that, three stages are rated as mountainous, one as hilly, and then the final hilly time trial. So, if you're a sprinter, out of competition for the jerseys, or not supporting those with a chance for yellow, what's the point of staying in the race (especially if you're going to the Olympics)? Bragging rights for finishing the tour?
I think we'll see a lot of withdrawals a week from now., and even more before the final time trial.
Good question
FYI - MVP is saving his efforts for selected finishes and stages because he's saving his legs for MTB Olympics
MTB Olympics? Mathieu?
That was his original plan. At some point he chose to do the road race instead. Good choice considering the parcours...
Well this one wasn't much of anything but nice to see Alpacin get the win. I'm thinking MVDP could have won this himself but it's all about the TEAM. Hoping to see more of the showdown between Jasper and Girmay. The rest of this week and next week will be very interesting. I'm thinking the GC will be making changes a few times but will eventually come down to that final TT and that will be the stage to watch. Definitely have to keep up the coverage EVERYDAY. Thanks again for the insider insight Chris. We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Chris, do u do a dry run thru the race before broadcast, or since you know the racing so well do you just go live! And go 4 It!!
Who's got big balls? He's got big balls! But whose got the biggest ball of them all!? I remember that song from the 80's, lol. Gonna be humming it while they're climbing for bonus seconds, 🎉 . Everyone is defending their position.
Love the big balls comment at the end.
Chris , if you watch the video or the stage carefully especially about green jersey points in the intermediate, you will find Jasper interfere in others lane .
Cavendish story is the true story, QS started it and did the majority of the work.
Just scanning todays results and was surprised to see Degenkolb putting in a solid sprint.
Trading 2 🇩🇪 Top 10 sprinters for 1 🇩🇪 GC rider. Any takers? 😂
I think you should do the butterfly effect from a chesterfield. Not kidding, get a chesterfield and sit in it as you give us plebs the scoop
Ha, you could hardly say "if they got big balls" without laughing 😅. 😂
Hey chris could you do previews for the gc stages? They would be great
No knuckle head comments today but as always a great and enjoyable commentary.
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And I was so sure he'd call out EF near the finish! 🤷🏻♀️
Knucklehead talk is so yesterday man, now everybody talks balls. Balls is all the buzz these days.😂😂😂
Maybe Cav will correct his view on stage13 2013 Tour in his next book 😅
lol love the close comments
I guess tomorrow we will see Yates, Almeida and Ayuso pulling hard. Drama for Van Aert, Laporte and Jorgenson. 😂
And I’m still interested to see how nice UaE play together if it takes all of them to ride. 🤔👊🦋🔥
Someone signs their checks.
Tomorrow is 1 of 7 showdowns we have coming.
How many does Tadej need to win for the Tour? How many does Jonas need to win the Tour? How many does Remco, Primoz, or Carlos need? Love to hear everyone’s opinion!
If by "win" you mean winning the stage, the answer for Tadej is zero. JV will need at least one decisive stage win to pass TP, but not the others. It's between those two.
@@LABoyko win the stage? Of course not. When the GC matchup! Almost feels like Tadej is trying to put in a massive dig from 30+km today.
CHRIS: Here is a bike geometry question between Pogacar's and Vingegaar's fork angles. Starting around 6.5 km to go, when their bikes were side by side, Vinegaar's fork looked to be a couple degrees more relaxed than Pogacar's. The more vertical a fork is, the quicker and more sketchy it would be. Do you think that is a reflection of how Pogarcar is willing to blast down a mountain compared to Vingegaar? Vingegaar might be willing to trade off stability for quickness.
I actually meant to say Vingegaar gives up turning quickness for stability.
UK tv commentators pointed out that Alpecin got to the front in good time on this stage, rather than trying to rush from further back as they has been doing without success.
Remco must have competed in “Wipeout”. 😂
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IF you are a pro level cyclist or endurance athlete, and, your body is low on glucose (blood sugar), its primary fuel source, it switches to burning fat for energy. This process produces ketones. This is science. Unless you are "tapping" that level of energy (on day-to-day cadence) - you should never need to add ketones.
Your body doesn’t need ketones but it burns them more efficiently than glycogen. I’m not quite sure if your body can utilize exogenous ketones you eat and burn them without digesting them and turning them into glucose and then glycogen. It’s head scratching science 🤔
Chris Froome won the 2013 tour de France, his first!!
Big balls 😂
Great coverage, but you need bigger shelves!
No, he needs bigger balls! 😳😉
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Chris you forget to mention that jasper philipsen blocked Biniam in the intermediate sprint of the day.
Watch the video again--Chris dealt with it.
It was all MVDP. If he were racing for himself and had a good leadout, would he have won the stage.
Probably not, MVDP is strong but hasn't got that top end speed to beat the real sprinters in a flat sprint.
I am looking a lot on Uno-x, Kristoff is fast, but I guess Philipsen is slightly faster,especially when the riders is not exhausted. Kristoff might be at his most competetive when everyone is very tired. It looks like the riders were more fresh than usual this stage, that they didnt have to go hard for miles and miles catching a breakaway. Uno-x very often is a top team with 3 km to go, but blows in the last two kilometers. Do they come to early to the front? A problem with tactics is that the strongest team has much more options. Philipsen can win several ways, and they had the power to get best position on the last kilometer, maybe Uno-x lacks som power and had to risk getting too early in front?
Tour de France: Big Balls edition 🤣
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No offense to Jay Slater, but send the international search team to find Mark Cavendish.
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I was waiting for a reference to the size of Remco's balls and you didn't disappoint lol😂
Vingegaard is a Great rider. Period.
Stage was🥱😴 Even Vingegaard
Complain over it! Almost felt asleep
On the cycle! Massif Central wednes
Day real underrated!.Stay alert Podacar/UAE will go on Attack ❤😜🔝❤️
"Now we'll see who has the bigger balls: me, or the King of France" -- Pope Julius II (the "battle Pope").
Stat shows: Pogi 2 tdf and Jonas 2, the difference comes in stage wins, 12 : 3, now tell me who is the better racer, if he wasn't a wheel sucker he would be having more stage wins. Period
Cav has 12 times the stage wins of Jonas, but trails 2-0 in TDFs. Which record means more?
Stage wins were great when you were greeted on the podium by two cute girls and made out with both. Sort of lost their way with the insipid changes.
@LABoyko Cav is a sprinter, and their reward is a green jersey. We're talking about GC guys. Talk about guys like Eddy Markx and Co.
Good point
Why don’t you just marry Vingegard, 🐈
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When Mørkøv and teammate realized they inexplicably got all the way to the front without Cav and then pulled off, why didn't they regroup and reattach to Cav to try again to bring him to the front? They seemed to go right by him on the right side of the group, seemingly with still with enough race left to regroup. Did Cav call them off?
Cav may have been finished from the effort to get back up to the front group. 🤔🦋👍
Lol glad someone noticed that-Morkov doing his job, as he does, turns back and sees there is no one on his wheel to lead out…WTF…😂😂😂
All that matters is who finishes tour in least time.
You can have most power and ride all 2000 miles in front but if the lesser guys been sitting on your wheel and passes you , you lose.
Tade’s got more power, but not THAT much more-still need to race smart.
Tade’s great, but Maybe too Headstong and Immature?
No idea what Astana were doing
BINI 🇪🇷 can beat Jasper the Disaster in the flats too. He had the speed last year but not the lead out and experience.This year he learned and improved his mind games.🟩 is riding to Eritrea,Africa 🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷.
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EF got on the front too soon. 😢
I dont think you guys have seen the documentary that they released how Jonas won last year. It was all about beating Pogacar.. and they really feared him 🙃
are the stage placings for sprint stages taken when just the winner crosses the line or when each individual rider crosses the line? i ask this because it looked to me like WVA beat pascal ackermann for third when i watched live, but the photo finish clearly shows ackermann ahead of WVA, but 10-15 meters behind the line when philipsen crossed it
Watch the most advanced part of the front wheel. My two bits. Gooder.
It looks like the program automatically computes a parallax line in front of the wheels, along with the permanent parallax line for the finish line.
The positions are taken when each rider crosses the finish line individual.
The finishphoto looks like a side view photo of the finish but is actually a timelapse pieced together from hundreds of photos at the actual finishline, that's why it looks weird.
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Matt 👍. 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Where is Fabio Jakobsen?
It’s been rough since the crashes at the giro. Let’s hope some legs return soon. 🤔🦋😱🤞
Balls
Tactics and Power count for nothing, You need big balls 😆
Big balls? Most of these youngsters haven’t even begun shaving yet!
if cycling were all about power, vuelta could never been won by 42 age guy
Pog never said power. He said “legs”
Kristof Laporte is better sprinter then VvA - why Visma don't work for his sprint lead out?
Hey Chris, say Robbuh Gheys😉
Not Robbie Gies.
Did anyone notice none of the other riders went by to congratulate Jasper compared to the other sprint stages victors?
Interesting 🤔 is it cause he's a disaster?
Do you notice the only rider who didn’t congratulations Bini, when he won stage 8, even if he was right by his side was Philipsen. He was even really angry. If Jasper didn’t congratulate others they are not going to do it for him. MVDP is a class act, but not Jasper.
Visma has a plan so I must ask. Does anyone think Visma is saving Wout so he can step into Sepps role for Jonas? I ask as WvA has been quiet since stage 1 which is out of character.
WVA even in top form is not a climber like Sepp, who would ideally be last or second to last before pulling off as Jonas takes off.
Knucklehead count: 2. But they were both hypothetical knuckleheads.
"But who's got-the-biggest-balls of them all"!?
😂🤘🏻🤘🏻 rock on!
Chis hafe the biggest ball, just look at his Ball Head!!!
mirror mirror on the wall
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Bon Scott
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