I loved Stephen Boyd. He was so handsome and his base voice was so riveting. Died so young and should have won an Oscar for his powerful role as the villainous Massala.
Before Charlton Heston famous know movies & TV in 60s, 70s, 80s & 90s like Planet Of The Apes trilogy (original), Major Dudelee, 55 Days of Peking, The Omega Man, Soylent Green, Airport 75, Julius Caesar (remake), The Cassandra Crossing, The Crobys (a Dynasty spinoff), Earthquake & True Lies.
@@frank9712 Hugh Griffith who will character as Sheik Indreim become the Oscars winning performance for Best Supporting Actor before Ed Begley Sr as a politician & father of former girlfriend in Sweet Bird's & Youth's, Jack Albertson as Timmy father in The War in Rose & producer John Houseman as Professor Kingsley in The Paper Chase.
They should have included the part when Judah gave Massala the white horse. The emotion these two men exhibit and transition to in the entirety of this scene was truly moving.
This is one of the best scenes of one of the best movies ! I found this looking for the scene which is actually my favorite: the one where Judah comes back "from the dead" as young "Arius" and confronts Messala .....the whole movie is incredible!
………ONLY the late, great Mr Charlton Heston could wear a Roman Senator’s toga as magnificently, in that scene. With his beautiful, booming bass voice, ‘you’re wrong, Messala’. Oh, goosebump material!
One of the saddest and harshest things about reality is that some people you have as friends can become your enemies. I don't blame Judah for telling that lousy jerk Messala that he's against him. Judah cares about the freedom for his people and his culture while Messala is in for a lust for power and to destroy lives and other cultures.
Agree with you, Marguerite21. I am a Taiwanese christian, when my father introduced me 1959 version 《Ben-Hur》, he told me: Rome's "love" to Judea is just like China's "love" to Taiwan: "If I can not make you a part of my empire, I shall destroy you."
Egan Hsieh - Yeah that's exactly what dictatorship countries do and what they say. No other independent countries should ever face threats from other evil empires.
Messala certainly lusted for power, and wanted to climb the "corporate ladder" so to speak, but he didn't seem to have a desire to destroy lives and other cultures. He was fiercely patriotic to Rome and secure in his belief in its superiority.
“I tell you the day Rome falls there will be a SHOUT OF FREEDOM SUCH AS THE WORLD HAS NEVER HEARD BEFORE!” Such a great line from a great American actor. R.I.P. Charlton Heston
LOL. Judah and his family left Judea soon after they were happily reunited at the end. He knew that staying in Judea was a loser's bet, and they would all die if he stayed there.
Also not knowing the greatest savior of them all is living there at that time: Jesus. It's just that he didn't come to fight physical battles against the Romans. He had another purpose.
@daletwin1 You are right. GOD has brought kingdoms and cities to their knees. He has made the proudest of the proud beg for mercy. But the greatest thing he has done, in my opinion, is giving us salvation. Messala is like many people this day and age, who think think the time of GOD and his word is over. But the rightful ruler of this world and of Heaven shall come, and it shall be a day of great rejoice for all who are disciples of him, and a day of great sorrow and loss for those who aren't.
……bit of trivia………Director William Wyler originally cast Mr Heston as ‘Messala’, off the back of his great portrayal as nasty ranch hand ‘Steve Leach’ in Wyler’s film, ‘The Big Country’, in 1958. After several actors’ failed their screen test, for titular role of ‘Judah Ben-Hur’, Wyler moved Mr Heston to that role. The rest, as is said, is history………
Later in the film Judah makes a reference that really hammers home how he and Messala were once really close friends, that makes it all the more tragic. "The deed was not Messala's. I knew him...WELL...before the cruelty of Rome spread in his blood. Rome destroyed Messala as surely as Rome has destroyed my family." 😢
A travesty that Stephen Boyd didn't win an Oscar.. Charlton Heston without Stephen would not be able to transcend the material.. It's Stephen Boyd performance that allows us to hate him and root for Charlton
You sell Heston way too short I'm astounded someone could even think it. Boyd was CRIMINALLY underrated in this film, but goddamn dont put Heston under the bus for it. Only Heston could have complimented Boyd just as Boyd complimented Heston. It's still one of my favorite rivalries in film
Powerful and also painful. You know these men were once very close friends. Massala became radicalized, Judah stayed with his people; both have changed, and diverged. It's painful to watch love turn hate.
It was so ''bad'' I had to listen to it multiple times until I could spot it. Not just acting was perfect and direction but so was post editing. And judgment. I would never for example trash an entire powerful sequence because of a misspelling or any other mistake.
I love how Charleston Heston has certain intense scenes in film where he almost spits out the words- VERY effective!! Example here: “NO, I warn YOU!!” Judah really takes it to Messala! One of my favorite scenes in the film.
Un film capolavoro girato a Roma in un'epoca che non ho vissuto. Due attori americani fantastici. Stephen Boyd avrebbe meritato l'Oscar anche lui come Heston...che capolavoro. Grazie per questi dialoghi in lingua inglese
Hardly a fair comparison man. Messala gave Heston an Ultimatum he couldnt have accepted with a clear conscience. Heston only spoke and stood up for what's right which is something most people wouldnt do if it meant losing a connection with a friend. What Judah did is an example of how we should overcome the weakness of wanting to be loved and sacrifice popularity for doing what's right
One great bit in this scene is when Messala takes Hur to one side when there is nobody about which then draws the camera in close and thus the audience
……had heard a rumour that Director Wyler had 30 takes’ of this scene before he was satisfied both actors’ had done it THE best he could get from them………
Messala is being " practical " and cannot for the life of him understand why his best friend/ex lover can't see the world through his eyes. Isn't it what two people who love each other are supposed to do?
I agree. And I don’t thinks it’s just actors; actresses too. Some of them, I swear, are monotoned and lifeless. Movies, as well, are just playing it either too safe and generic.
All credit goes to William Wyler, who directed this excruciating sequence in it's perfect glory, while extracting undoubtedly best acting by Heston and Boyd. The frame, movement of camera, face exposure, front and back exposure and above all, the academic use of deep focus of emotional expression coupled with superb script and dialogues made it one of the best scenes in cinematic history.
This is Stephen Boyd's Greatest scene. You can see his love for Judah, his love for Rome, and his boyhood dream of he and Judah rising together - then to have it all dashed to pieces by the hope of Israel.
Well, like certain people I know he chose to side with Rome and throw his best friend/lover under the bus. The problem is- sometimes " their " victims come back as well. And this time they're part of " Rome ". Silly me- did I say " Rome "? Of course I meant the Blake Association. The destroyer of people's lives and hopes and dreams since...before my dearest Jesus.
I don't know why they didn't have Heston have a beard throughout the entire film, except for when he was living of Rome of course, given that shaving was a Roman and Greek custom, whereas Jewish men had well trimmed full beards.
To Wurzelknecht..:Massala became a trained..toughened hardened Roman Soldier..his thinking changed..his outlook on things and his whole personality and priorities changed..I guess we couldn't expect him to remain the happy laughing kid that he and Ben Hur had once been.
+vickie oglesby More than that. The Consul Arius was a tough and hardened soldier, but still had honor and grew to love Judah as a son. Messala was corrupted by ambition and power, which Rome embodied. He was willing to sell out his own friend to gain that power.
"If that is the choice, then I am against you.". The most powerful scene and dialogue between Judah Ben-Hur and his old friend Messala. It will end their friendship once and for all. Then both will become ennemies. Charlton Heston is a kegend. One of the ten greatest actors of all time. Stephen Boyd should have won an Academy Award for his role of the evil Messala. Great movie. Great masterpiece.
Not quite they haven’t seen each other in some time before they reunited in their previous scene they were at odds in that scene but this completely solidified their feud
Charlton Heston and Stephen Boyd are superb gifted actors with tremendous talent. No one can play their parts better that them. The remake of Ben Hur 2016 is simply atrocious with diabolical acting.
If I can not persuade them , it does not mean I will help you murder them .. You can not put a (frustrated) minds to death , an those with understanding know their restraint.. It was that emotion that departed these friends ..
There will be no Joshua, no Solomon no David... But he didn't know there was Jesus walking on earth on those days. The King of kings and the Lord or lords, His kingdom will be the everlasting kingdom, God eternal. Who later through his apostle Paul conquered entire Rome turning it into a Christian nation
Awesome movie! Super-production, as we call such things in Greece. But if you want to see a tiny flaw, you can hear it in this scene at 0:23. When Messala says "The emperor is watching us", you can hardly distinguish that his voice has been recorded in a studio, at that speficic phrase. Probably something has been heard from the background and they have cut it out at the process.
***** i disagree... in the beginning when Masala came to govern, their is a scene where they meet and throw the arrows " where the beams cross " and they discuss old times and still being "alike " in every way... i think that shows how close they were as children....i believe Judah thought he WAS the same but came to realize how Rome corrupted him as time went on... later on in the movie he tells Pontious Pilot" he knew Masala well.... " long before the poisen of rome spread in his veins"
gspotter64 Well yes, but that's it. It's one small scene in the beginning which almost instantly leads into the scene from this video. We get told that they were such good friends and they share some memories, but at no point does Messala come off as likable or even conflicted about his actions. We only hear about what a sweet kid he was from other characters but we never get to see it. It's especially jarring since he's basically the only character int he movie that is so completely villainous. Even Caesar and Pilate are potrayed in a more positive way. But as I said, the movie was already incredibly long and aside from this small criticism I think it's flawless.
ESTA ESCENA ES EL INICIO DE TODO LO Q SE VENÍA EN LA PELÍCULA. LA MEJOR PELÍCULA DEL CINE. ASOMBROSA, MARAVILLOSA PELÍCULA, DESDE CHARLTON HESTON Y SU ESTUPENDA ACTUACIÓN, HASTA LOS DOBLES. BEN HUR Y MESSALA LOS DOS ERAN BUENOS EN SUS RESPECTIVOS PAPELES. D 15022015.
am a soldier'' '' yes who killes for Rome and Rome is evil!'' ''i warn you!' 'noooooo i warn you, Rome is an affront to god, Rome is stranglin my country my people the whore earth!, but not forever, i tell you the day rome falls there will be a shout of freedome such as the world has never heard before.'' ''judah either you help or you oppose me, you have no other choice, you either for me or against me!'' ''if that is the choice, then am against you'
This movie was a remake of a 1925 silent epic, which was a remake of a 1907 silent short film, which was an adaptation of a 1899 play, which was an adaptation of a 1880 book.
Absolutely 👍🏿 I cannot fathom how they had the supposed mindset to do it remake of absolute perfection.Especially coming from Marvel and I respectfully say Disney?
The Star Wars prequels were based on a lot of the themes from this classic movie. The pod race is the obvious one but there are many other ones too; the two old friends falling out, the background of an Empire, the hero looking for his mother, the "either for me or against me" etc.
Plus the original trilogy: Quintus Arrius entry reminds me a lot of Darth Vader.. or was it just the other way round? And John Williams probably spent a lot of time listening to M.Rosza´s Ben Hur score....
Its weird how when I've gotten older Marsala isn't asking for something unreasonabke here. Hes in charge of keeping the peace and wants to arrest the zealots which in a lot of ways committed terrorist act just like isis or Al queda. Its his decision to arrest Judah Ben Hur and his family after the brick accident that is the true begining of his path to evil, not this scene. Imagine being an American Who in the 70s was a son of an American Diplomat and lived in the Kabul Embassy. You become best friends with a son from a wealthy Afgani family. Its right after 911 and you are now a soldier stationed in Kabul and see your childhood friend again and embrace. You ask him to reveal who are the Taliban and Al Queda leaders and he refuses. That's what Marsalis faced.
Trouble is he keeps dropping bricks: All that business about destroying civilizations and Judah being conquered. Then he shows his contempt for Judah’s God and Judah’s history and traditions demanding (not “begging” as he claims in a later scene) that Judah overturn them to help him advance. Then he threatens him: “I warn you….” That is what sets Judah off. Judah wasn’t angry about being asked for names. If Messala had stopped there so would the story have.
I don't have to imagine- I'm living it. I've got loved ones and friends fighting on both sides in the Ukrainian civil war. But all of them know my Gotti temper and will never be foolish enough to force me to choose sides.
Messala : la soberbia y arrogancia del conquistador despiadado, pisotea la amistad nacida en la infancia de ambos . Judah Ben-Hur : con dolor, se mantiene leal a su pueblo y su fe , enfrentando al poderoso Imperio Romano, representado por su, desde ese momento, ex amigo . Esta formidable escena es el inicio del drama que domina el resto del filme . La música , para mi gusto, puso el broche de oro a la magnificencia de la película y mereció el Oscar obtenido.
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I loved Stephen Boyd. He was so handsome and his base voice was so riveting. Died so young and should have won an Oscar for his powerful role as the villainous Massala.
Hugh Griffith lh not Stephen Boyd
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 Stephen's performance as the evil Masala was unmatched. As was his powerful death scene at the end of the chariot race!
@@TheReneex Sorry, Stephen Boyd as Mesalla, Hugh Griffith as Sheik Indrem
There will never be another Charlton Heston. He carried himself with such poise and dignity. Very few actors can match him.
Stephen Boyd did a pretty good job in this scene at least.
I agree.
Undisputable
Before Charlton Heston famous know movies & TV in 60s, 70s, 80s & 90s like Planet Of The Apes trilogy (original), Major Dudelee, 55 Days of Peking, The Omega Man, Soylent Green, Airport 75, Julius Caesar (remake), The Cassandra Crossing, The Crobys (a Dynasty spinoff), Earthquake & True Lies.
.…he was also a lovely man to meet, & have conversation with, along with his beautiful wife, Lydia………
Ben Hur, ranks for me as one of the greatest movies of all times.
The best dialogue in the movie. Such passion!
Charlton Heston and Stephen Boyd were the only two actors in the world that could carry the full power of their characters in this movie. Superb job.
and hugh griffith
Fantastic work by both of them.
@@frank9712 Hugh Griffith who will character as Sheik Indreim become the Oscars winning performance for Best Supporting Actor before Ed Begley Sr as a politician & father of former girlfriend in Sweet Bird's & Youth's, Jack Albertson as Timmy father in The War in Rose & producer John Houseman as Professor Kingsley in The Paper Chase.
So agree
They filmed this scene as if it were live theater: no breaks for face shots and so on. Genius.
Brilliant William Wyler’s directing here. Stephen Boyd’s acting is beyond superb.
indeed messala character is being played superbly
They should have included the part when Judah gave Massala the white horse. The emotion these two men exhibit and transition to in the entirety of this scene was truly moving.
My absolute favorite movie! An awesome story of revenge and redemption, absolutely a must own!
This is one of the best scenes of one of the best movies ! I found this looking for the scene which is actually my favorite: the one where Judah comes back "from the dead" as young "Arius" and confronts Messala .....the whole movie is incredible!
………ONLY the late, great Mr Charlton Heston could wear a Roman Senator’s toga as magnificently, in that scene. With his beautiful, booming bass voice, ‘you’re wrong, Messala’.
Oh, goosebump material!
One of the saddest and harshest things about reality is that some people you have as friends can become your enemies. I don't blame Judah for telling that lousy jerk Messala that he's against him. Judah cares about the freedom for his people and his culture while Messala is in for a lust for power and to destroy lives and other cultures.
Yes,but Judah could have been more tactful.
Agree with you, Marguerite21.
I am a Taiwanese christian, when my father introduced me 1959 version 《Ben-Hur》, he told me: Rome's "love" to Judea is just like China's "love" to Taiwan: "If I can not make you a part of my empire, I shall destroy you."
Egan Hsieh - Yeah that's exactly what dictatorship countries do and what they say. No other independent countries should ever face threats from other evil empires.
Messala certainly lusted for power, and wanted to climb the "corporate ladder" so to speak, but he didn't seem to have a desire to destroy lives and other cultures. He was fiercely patriotic to Rome and secure in his belief in its superiority.
DanielJJ he put himself before others
I know every line in this entire scene by heart.
Same here
One of the greatest scenes in movie history. Look to Rome!
“I tell you the day Rome falls there will be a SHOUT OF FREEDOM SUCH AS THE WORLD HAS NEVER HEARD BEFORE!” Such a great line from a great American actor. R.I.P. Charlton Heston
NRA president is Soylent Green is People
Actually the jewish nation fell before the Roman one altho restored in 1948
He read it on the script!!!!
@@angloaust157590AD. !!
LOL. Judah and his family left Judea soon after they were happily reunited at the end. He knew that staying in Judea was a loser's bet, and they would all die if he stayed there.
Messala tells Ben Hur there will be no more Joshua, David, or Solomon. Not knowing that he is talking to MOSES!
Also not knowing the greatest savior of them all is living there at that time: Jesus. It's just that he didn't come to fight physical battles against the Romans. He had another purpose.
AMEN 🙏 With capital letters!
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@daletwin1 You are right. GOD has brought kingdoms and cities to their knees. He has made the proudest of the proud beg for mercy. But the greatest thing he has done, in my opinion, is giving us salvation. Messala is like many people this day and age, who think think the time of GOD and his word is over. But the rightful ruler of this world and of Heaven shall come, and it shall be a day of great rejoice for all who are disciples of him, and a day of great sorrow and loss for those who aren't.
Great acting from both actors
I always like Stephen Boyd's Messala.
Boyd is one of the biggest villains EVER. Great actor.
RIP two brilliant actors and my unending thanks for your portrayals in this epic film
Messala Beautiful voice.
I can’t imagine anyone other than Charlton Heston playing the role of Ben-Hur. He was such a good actor.
His portrayal of Ben-Hur is the only I’ll ever accept. Charlton was amazing.
@@laurenr1629 Like Jack Huston or Ramon Navarro
……bit of trivia………Director William Wyler originally cast Mr Heston as ‘Messala’, off the back of his great portrayal as nasty ranch hand ‘Steve Leach’ in Wyler’s film, ‘The Big Country’, in 1958.
After several actors’ failed their screen test, for titular role of ‘Judah Ben-Hur’, Wyler moved Mr Heston to that role. The rest, as is said, is history………
Later in the film Judah makes a reference that really hammers home how he and Messala were once really close friends, that makes it all the more tragic.
"The deed was not Messala's. I knew him...WELL...before the cruelty of Rome spread in his blood. Rome destroyed Messala as surely as Rome has destroyed my family." 😢
Stephen Boyd was sensational
He’s so underrated I wish he’d been in more movies!
Totally agree! He portrayed the perfect Roman soldier
A travesty that Stephen Boyd didn't win an Oscar.. Charlton Heston without Stephen would not be able to transcend the material.. It's Stephen Boyd performance that allows us to hate him and root for Charlton
u right, they are perfect enemies.
I think I may have gone for Boyd as Best Supporting Actor over Hugh Griffith......
In all of Stephen Boyd's scenes, he perfectly portrayed a soldier, fiercely dedicated to Rome and the emperor
You sell Heston way too short I'm astounded someone could even think it. Boyd was CRIMINALLY underrated in this film, but goddamn dont put Heston under the bus for it. Only Heston could have complimented Boyd just as Boyd complimented Heston. It's still one of my favorite rivalries in film
I agree. Boyd was a perfect foil in this movie.
This is acting! So much conviction and life. No productions take note!
Powerful and also painful. You know these men were once very close friends. Massala became radicalized, Judah stayed with his people; both have changed, and diverged. It's painful to watch love turn hate.
I've been living Ben Hur since the 2014 Ukrainian coup.
One of my favorite movies, great acting great production well done, just finished watching on cinema April 18 2022
Devasting acting from Boyd, I can't imagine any modern actors even coming close. Amazingly powerful scene.
Came here after watching the trailer for the remake... wow... I have no words for the betrayal.
+Salvatore Haran I do and its from Lethal Weapon "pretty thin huh, anorexic." Movie better have some spiritual meat on the bone!
Anyone else notice the bad ADR at 00:23? That line was clearly dubbed in after
yeah there's a lot of that in this film. I forgot how bad some of the audio is... well it was 1959.
It's not that bad, it's in sync at least.
It was so ''bad'' I had to listen to it multiple times until I could spot it. Not just acting was perfect and direction but so was post editing.
And judgment. I would never for example trash an entire powerful sequence because of a misspelling or any other mistake.
tHe EmPeRoR iS wAtChInG uS.
Still, one of the best movies ever made,!!
I love how Charleston Heston has certain intense scenes in film where he almost spits out the words- VERY effective!! Example here: “NO, I warn YOU!!” Judah really takes it to Messala! One of my favorite scenes in the film.
Un film capolavoro girato a Roma in un'epoca che non ho vissuto. Due attori americani fantastici. Stephen Boyd avrebbe meritato l'Oscar anche lui come Heston...che capolavoro. Grazie per questi dialoghi in lingua inglese
Stephen Boyd was Irish not american
"You are either for me or against me!" "Only a sith deals in absolutes!"
Well, they are the Dark Side.
I have this movie on DVD. It's a must for me! One of the best movies ever done. OMG! Look here: 2:11
You need to get the BLU-RAY it looks and sounds flawless. Well worth it, : )
Gee thanks, I get to see the exact same thing again. Very good. Now what’s 2+2.
A firm piece of reality how political debates with friends can result in a cancelled friendship
Hardly a fair comparison man. Messala gave Heston an Ultimatum he couldnt have accepted with a clear conscience. Heston only spoke and stood up for what's right which is something most people wouldnt do if it meant losing a connection with a friend. What Judah did is an example of how we should overcome the weakness of wanting to be loved and sacrifice popularity for doing what's right
@@stormcutter59 Well said!
Greed and lust for power exudes
One great bit in this scene is when Messala takes Hur to one side when there is nobody about which then draws the camera in close and thus the audience
……had heard a rumour that Director Wyler had 30 takes’ of this scene before he was satisfied both actors’ had done it THE best he could get from them………
i lost track how many times i watched this great epic movie..over 10 times
Look to Rome! That always get to me. Can any nation on earth today make such a remark?
The United States maybe? They're the current world hegemon. Although their power is being challenged by China and Russia.
Look to Egypt of ancient world
@vincenthitchin8740
USA is the laughing stock worldwide, monica Lewinsky, Clinton and bush!!!
You can tell Messala is coming from a deeply honest place, he wants the best for his friend given how Messala has accepted the world he lives in.
Messala is being " practical " and cannot for the life of him understand why his best friend/ex lover can't see the world through his eyes. Isn't it what two people who love each other are supposed to do?
Remember how acting used to be. It's strange but I just feel that passion is gone from modern day blockbusters
I agree. And I don’t thinks it’s just actors; actresses too. Some of them, I swear, are monotoned and lifeless. Movies, as well, are just playing it either too safe and generic.
All credit goes to William Wyler, who directed this excruciating sequence in it's perfect glory, while extracting undoubtedly best acting by Heston and Boyd.
The frame, movement of camera, face exposure, front and back exposure and above all, the academic use of deep focus of emotional expression coupled with superb script and dialogues made it one of the best scenes in cinematic history.
Zwei ausgezeichnete Schauspieler in dem größten Film der Kinogeschichte mit einer riesigen sozialen Botschaft. Ein wahres Meisterwerk!
This is Stephen Boyd's Greatest scene. You can see his love for Judah, his love for Rome, and his boyhood dream of he and Judah rising together - then to have it all dashed to pieces by the hope of Israel.
He was also in the movie "The Fall of the Roman Empire"!!!
Well, like certain people I know he chose to side with Rome and throw his best friend/lover under the bus. The problem is- sometimes " their " victims come back as well. And this time they're part of " Rome ". Silly me- did I say " Rome "? Of course I meant the Blake Association. The destroyer of people's lives and hopes and dreams since...before my dearest Jesus.
The way he delivered that line was just great!
a WELL-deserved Oscar!
I don't know why they didn't have Heston have a beard throughout the entire film, except for when he was living of Rome of course, given that shaving was a Roman and Greek custom, whereas Jewish men had well trimmed full beards.
Your are spot on.
@@Seekingtruth-mx3urCecil B. DeMille would have.
To Wurzelknecht..:Massala became a trained..toughened hardened Roman Soldier..his thinking changed..his outlook on things and his whole personality and priorities changed..I guess we couldn't expect him to remain the happy laughing kid that he and Ben Hur had once been.
+vickie oglesby More than that. The Consul Arius was a tough and hardened soldier, but still had honor and grew to love Judah as a son. Messala was corrupted by ambition and power, which Rome embodied. He was willing to sell out his own friend to gain that power.
Judah dropped the ball here.
Two of the best actors in cinematic history, what a great scene.
What goes around comes around, Messala. Always.
I love this movie to this day! It came out when I was in high school and every holiday we organized theater parties to go see it
Funny how so many legendary films are 3+ hours long
...Look to Rome! Epic.
+chine62 Acts 16:9 "Come over into Macedonia and help us."
"If that is the choice, then I am against you.". The most powerful scene and dialogue between Judah Ben-Hur and his old friend Messala. It will end their friendship once and for all. Then both will become ennemies. Charlton Heston is a kegend. One of the ten greatest actors of all time. Stephen Boyd should have won an Academy Award for his role of the evil Messala. Great movie. Great masterpiece.
This was so beautifully restored. This scene makes it look like it was made far more recent than 1959
Messala deserved the 12th Oscar!!!
Hollywood discriminated against him just for being Irish!!!
Powerful scene!
“Get your damn, dirty Roman hands off me.”
Charlton Heston the greatest actor who ever walked...
Ben Hur the greatest film in history...
11 million reasons why it won 11 Oscar's
Stephen Boyd is incredible!
They are amazing actors!!!! They go from friends to enemies in 1 scene
Not quite they haven’t seen each other in some time before they reunited in their previous scene they were at odds in that scene but this completely solidified their feud
Charlton Heston and Stephen Boyd are superb gifted actors with tremendous talent. No one can play their parts better that them. The remake of Ben Hur 2016 is simply atrocious with diabolical acting.
"Patriots!"
Friends disagreeing on the super bowl.
If I can not persuade them , it does not mean I will help you murder them ..
You can not put a (frustrated) minds to death , an those with understanding know their restraint..
It was that emotion that departed these friends ..
I have watched this movie way too many times. LOL
Just realized this movie is 60 years old.
love how heston said murder. classic heston
What great actors and acting
Such a sad story....
Charleston Heston one of a kind greatest actors EVER!!!!
Epic scene.
There will be no Joshua, no Solomon no David... But he didn't know there was Jesus walking on earth on those days. The King of kings and the Lord or lords, His kingdom will be the everlasting kingdom, God eternal. Who later through his apostle Paul conquered entire Rome turning it into a Christian nation
Absolutely the finest performances from the two
men. It dosen't get any better,,,as the character
decription read, Messala traded trust for treachery.
Stephen Boyd is great in this scene 💯👍
Awesome movie! Super-production, as we call such things in Greece. But if you want to see a tiny flaw, you can hear it in this scene at 0:23. When Messala says "The emperor is watching us", you can hardly distinguish that his voice has been recorded in a studio, at that speficic phrase. Probably something has been heard from the background and they have cut it out at the process.
We still live in Rome Today
I saw this movie in the theaters.
Great Movies that don't make anymore,everything goes with the Sociate at the time,no the one we are living know.
***** i disagree... in the beginning when Masala came to govern, their is a scene where they meet and throw the arrows " where the beams cross " and they discuss old times and still being "alike " in every way... i think that shows how close they were as children....i believe Judah thought he WAS the same but came to realize how Rome corrupted him as time went on... later on in the movie he tells Pontious Pilot" he knew Masala well.... " long before the poisen of rome spread in his veins"
gspotter64 Well yes, but that's it. It's one small scene in the beginning which almost instantly leads into the scene from this video. We get told that they were such good friends and they share some memories, but at no point does Messala come off as likable or even conflicted about his actions. We only hear about what a sweet kid he was from other characters but we never get to see it. It's especially jarring since he's basically the only character int he movie that is so completely villainous. Even Caesar and Pilate are potrayed in a more positive way. But as I said, the movie was already incredibly long and aside from this small criticism I think it's flawless.
agreed
Arrows????
When? Where?
ESTA ESCENA ES EL INICIO DE TODO LO Q SE VENÍA EN LA PELÍCULA. LA MEJOR PELÍCULA DEL CINE. ASOMBROSA, MARAVILLOSA PELÍCULA, DESDE CHARLTON HESTON Y SU ESTUPENDA ACTUACIÓN, HASTA LOS DOBLES. BEN HUR Y MESSALA LOS DOS ERAN BUENOS EN SUS RESPECTIVOS PAPELES. D 15022015.
Sí, una película excelente
Replace "Rome" with "America" and it's amazing how applicable this argument is to the modern-day Middle-Eastern conflict.
I would say the EU with their evil marxist agenda
America embraces the Jews, unlike Rome, Ancient or Modern.
The angst for power leads a man to hate his childhood friend!!!
Rome made many ambitious men tyrants, despot and monsyers after joining their ranks.
Più lo guardo.piu comprendo la potenza di Gesù che a conquistato il Cuore di ❤️ Ben Hur e il nostro
am a soldier''
'' yes who killes for Rome and Rome is evil!''
''i warn you!'
'noooooo i warn you, Rome is an affront to god, Rome is stranglin my country my people the whore earth!, but not forever, i tell you the day rome falls there will be a shout of freedome such as the world has never heard before.''
''judah either you help or you oppose me, you have no other choice, you either for me or against me!''
''if that is the choice, then am against you'
Good acting, especially from Stephen Boyd.
Legalább 10 alkalommal láttam a filmet és nagyon tetsztett.
I feel like this is happening again.
Substitute "Rome" for "The EU" and you almost have a row between a Leave voter and a Remain voter.
Yep. As an American and...a Donbass Reb I've been living Ben Hur since 2014.
An era when movies were original and people can act 🙀
could act... but yeah, you're right.
This movie was a remake of a 1925 silent epic, which was a remake of a 1907 silent short film, which was an adaptation of a 1899 play, which was an adaptation of a 1880 book.
Yes, and I still can't believe that Hollywood had the nerve to make a remake?!?! That maybe 5 people went to see?! 😆
No one in those Disney Marvel movies can act. Terrible. Everyone in Ben-Hur 1959 displays acting perfection.
Absolutely 👍🏿 I cannot fathom how they had the supposed mindset to do it remake of absolute perfection.Especially coming from Marvel and I respectfully say Disney?
The Star Wars prequels were based on a lot of the themes from this classic movie. The pod race is the obvious one but there are many other ones too; the two old friends falling out, the background of an Empire, the hero looking for his mother, the "either for me or against me" etc.
Plus the original trilogy: Quintus Arrius entry reminds me a lot of Darth Vader.. or was it just the other way round?
And John Williams probably spent a lot of time listening to M.Rosza´s Ben Hur score....
silenceseaandsky.
Well, this explains why "Ben-Hur" (1959) and "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith" (2005) are my favorite films.
Toller Film, habe ihn auch auf Blu-Ray. Schauspieler die auch noch Schauspielern konnten ohne Technik...
I’ll bet Karl Tunberg drew parallels with McCarthyism and the HOUAA when he wrote this scene.
Don't forget my beloved Ireland and Ukraine.
You're watching the beginning of the tragic ending of a borderline brotherly love between the two men...😢
“If that is the choice, then I against you!”
Rome was an ancient Empire in the past
now USA is the Empire
Try to rule the world for more than 1000 Years and then we talk again.
@@rossellalaface492 1000 years?? it wasnt 400 500 years only?
It will fall soon as well!!
2:39 Only a Sith deals in absolutes
Its weird how when I've gotten older Marsala isn't asking for something unreasonabke here. Hes in charge of keeping the peace and wants to arrest the zealots which in a lot of ways committed terrorist act just like isis or Al queda. Its his decision to arrest Judah Ben Hur and his family after the brick accident that is the true begining of his path to evil, not this scene. Imagine being an American Who in the 70s was a son of an American Diplomat and lived in the Kabul Embassy. You become best friends with a son from a wealthy Afgani family. Its right after 911 and you are now a soldier stationed in Kabul and see your childhood friend again and embrace. You ask him to reveal who are the Taliban and Al Queda leaders and he refuses. That's what Marsalis faced.
You just gave the premise for a contemporary telling of this story.
Trouble is he keeps dropping bricks: All that business about destroying civilizations and Judah being conquered. Then he shows his contempt for Judah’s God and Judah’s history and traditions demanding (not “begging” as he claims in a later scene) that Judah overturn them to help him advance. Then he threatens him: “I warn you….” That is what sets Judah off. Judah wasn’t angry about being asked for names. If Messala had stopped there so would the story have.
No, I'm with you on this one. Messala is the practical one.
I don't have to imagine- I'm living it. I've got loved ones and friends fighting on both sides in the Ukrainian civil war. But all of them know my Gotti temper and will never be foolish enough to force me to choose sides.
Messala : la soberbia y arrogancia del conquistador despiadado, pisotea la amistad nacida en la infancia de ambos .
Judah Ben-Hur : con dolor, se mantiene leal a su pueblo y su fe , enfrentando al poderoso Imperio Romano, representado por su, desde ese momento, ex amigo .
Esta formidable escena es el inicio del drama que domina el resto del filme .
La música , para mi gusto, puso el broche de oro a la magnificencia de la película y mereció el Oscar obtenido.
Judah should have said: "Only a sith deals in absolutes"