Top 10 Exact Moments That a TV Character's Story Arc Was Ruined by Poor Writing
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- And just like that, a character arc was ruined. Welcome to MsMojo, and today we’re counting down our picks for the times our favorite characters bore the brunt of some unpopular writing decisions. Our countdown includes "Friends," "Lost," "Shameless," and more! Which TV character’s storyline do YOU wish you could rewrite? Let us know in the comments.
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The best way to ruin a great show is to shove together two individuals who have repeatedly shown to be incompatible, all for a supposedly happy ending. 🙄
Yes in how I met your mother and friends
They should've abandoned the original ending. It ruined such a defining show.
Eh, 4 out 6 getting a decent end is still a passing grade.... though, I guess it went down to 3 because of a terrible spin-off, but can't blame the main show for that.
Looking at you Joanie and Chachi
I would have liked to see phoebe and Joey get together
The fact that Alex Kerev from Grey’s Anatomy isn’t on here is wild. The writers ruined is exit and his character arch.
As bad as GOT finale might be to some people, it will never equal the abomination that is HIMYM.
Least GOT had some characters get endings that fit. HIMYM literally destroyed itself
HIMYM? What’s that?
@@knightwolf9863 How I met your mother
I have to disagree. Bronn being Master of Coin makes no god damn sense, as finance was never his skill set.
Sansa becoming Queen of the North didn't really feel earned, as she never displayed a talent at politics or even above average intelligence.
Jon spent the entire final season whining about not wanting to be king, and the expected arc would be that he learned that he has an obligation, but he never did, he just stopped screwing Daenarys because he was understandably creeped out when he learned they were related. After he kills her, he goes back to the wall even though that stopped serving a purpose when the walkers were wiped out.
And King Bran is just... it is obvious that they thought "what would surprise people?" and they picked him because nobody would have expected it. Though, of course, nobody expected it because it didn't make sense. He is an immortal emotionless entity that can see through time, so would be utterly uncaring to events of the present and disregard any suffering as inconsequential in the grand scheme.
The problem with GOT was the books weren't and still aren't finished. If you read the books you can see Dany going bonkers so that was not out of nowhere. The ending was so pointless. They all ended up where they started. Minus brann. He got God powers. But like it was so bizarre they wanted to make a show with unfinished source material.
Penny having suprise child in last ep was something i really hated. I liked that she did not want children. We already had Bernadette and her storylines about children and pregnancies. I liked that Penny was honest and vocal that being a mother is not something she really wants in her life. Because that was so realistic - many woman just want to live their lives and not have children. And that decision is okay, just like decision to have them. Also, it was great that all three women (Penny, Bernadette and Amy) were different. No just three mothers. I was very, very disappointed when in last minute they gave her pregnancy. It was not like she slowly changed her mind and views and then ended up pregnant. No. it was just last minute - hey, let's give her a child because... why not. It was so out of the character... like if Sex and the city would have decided to give Samantha or Carrie a child in last episode.
Same with Rachel. That one was disapointing too. She gave up her dream for...Ross??? Really??? She was dreaming about job like that for forever. She could have been amazing in it. If he loved her so much, he should have for once changed his life for her and move to Paris to be with her, not ask her to throw away her dream.
But How i met your mother is the worst. After all seasons and everything that happened to characters... making Ted end up with Robin anyway ruinded the whole show for me. I can't rewatch it because i know it's all pointless, sweet mother character is pointless and it all just ends with shit. If the plan was to still make him end up with Robin... they could just make it a 3 season show and end it. Not make this whole journey, character developments and then... throw it all away. Years have passed but this is still the shittiest ending that i've ever seen on any show i've watched.
At least "That 70's Show" itself pointed out how dumb it was for Eric to abruptly leave Donna, all because Topher Grace wanted to pursue a film career. They could have picked a better reason, though fortunately, they're still going strong as of the spinoff show.
Scientology and a difference in moral opinion had a lot to say about topher grace leaving that show.
Omg yess!! I always felt like it should've ended with Eric AND Donna moving to Africa; which would've made more sense. No one wanted to get out of Point Place more than her.
HIMYM is the worst ending ever. I refuse to watch any reruns.
Watch the alternate ending
I feel like Alex Karev should be on this list. The writers couldn't even give him a proper send off.
Oh I was so angry with him. Because he should have known better. Because he knew how it feels when someone just leaves without a word. Because Izzy did that to him! (Correct me if I'm wrong, it has been a while, but I'm pretty sure.)
Grey’s Anatomy used to be my favorite show, but for whatever reason I stopped watching it. They need to end it; it’s been on way too long.
Now, excuse me while I go watch season 25 of SVU. 🍿
HIMYM should have adapted to and abandoned it's original ending. Plenty of show changed things to adapt to new developments abd it work!
At least make another season after Tracy's death but make it like years later like will and grace
How I met your mother started great and then the last season happened and I lost all interests
Seriously, “Penny, giving up on her dreams,“ ruins penny’s character arc?! So she was going nowhere with her fantasy of becoming a famous actress and grew up. Pursued an actual career path, and despite not planning it, discovered an enthusiasm for having a child, and that was a “disservice to a character?“ So I guess miss mojo‘s opinion of staying true to a character is having Penny perpetually engaging in immature fantasy, never moving forward with her life, never doing something more elevated like having a family. What if this show had gone on 20 more years how would that have played? a 45-year-old talking about becoming a famous actress and divorced from Leonard as he’s married some chick 15 years younger than him and made a family with her instead? Hilarious!!
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Exactly. The problem with Penny's dream is that she didn't really want to be an actress, she wanted to be a movie star. She equated fame with wealth, honor and happiness. She needed to discover for herself not only that becoming a successful Hollywood star is EXTREMELY difficult if you have no background, and even more difficult if you have no connections, but also that there's more to life than having a dream job.
@@daveerk6573 Huh?
I remember being so angry with what they did to Sayid.
HiMYM WE WASTED SO MANY ZEASONS AND THEN WE LITERALLY GOT NOTHING FROM IT
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Cordelia Chase got hit _really_ hard in *Angel* seasons 3 and 4. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned. I mean Buffy did, I get that part, but the Cordy one was just STUPID.
The Ross hate is so ridiculous on this channel. Also “who could’ve predicted Dani’s rampage” umm anybody that was paying attention, I was calling it from season 4 that she was gonna break bad
It really is. Sure, Ross had his flaws, but he always tried to do the right thing and admitted his faults. If anyone should receive all the hate, it's Phoebe. Homegirl went from being nice and ditzy to a straight-up bully.
"Who could've predicted Dhaenarys' sudden rampage?"...........Seriously?🤣🤣🤣
Only thing that ruined for me on The Big Bang Theory is that Penny and Bernadette had kids when they clearly stated that motherhood wasn’t for them
Why?! Both women thought they didn’t want children, and when it happened, they changed their minds. Kids tend to do that.
@@kelleyfisher6932 Because it perpetuates the "You'll change your mind" myth that so many people like to spew towards women who are firmly anti-motherhood, when in reality if a woman doesn't want kids she likely never will, and is just annoyed that people keep insisting she'll change her mind.
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A lot of people say that when they're young. A lot of them change their minds. Really that shocking?
As a viewer, it's natural to want the characters to justify our own opinions. When in reality, this is an extremely realistic occurrence - that is, saying one doesn't want children then changing one's mind later on as we (women) grow and mature and realize that our life is less than fulfilling without a purpose of lasting legacy.
Ah OF COURSE. The perfect bookend for Rachel is her basically taking a child away from her father just to pursue her career that will mean nothing once she's dead.
Sums up her character all right, thanks MsMojo.
that whole story line with them ended w a loose loose situation regardless. If she did go she was a bad mom if she did go she gave up her dreams for a man. It was also the 90s so feminism wasn't there yet.
The best way to end himym for those robin and ted fan is to make the next final season after tracys death (but make its plot 15 yrs in the future) to redevelop robin and ted instead of crammin it down our throats half baked and make the final episode focusing on him, his kids, and the gang. Look. I'm all for Robin and Ted shippers but it's a terrible idea to force it down our throat when there's no chemistry there for 7 season. Reason why Ross n Rachel redeveloped so well bc their feelings are resurfaced 5 ep before the last one n it took Rachel moving to Paris to get there
I think Penny giving up on acting was a good choice because that dream was very naïve in the first place.
One thing that always bugs me about "Friends" is that Ross is solely the one blamed for the break up. No one seems to remember that Rachel allowed Mark into her apartment knowing that her "friendship" with him was the root cause of Ross's jealousy. Rachel is the one who asked for a "break" and then immediately runs to Mark. No wonder Ross thought he was a free man. They were both equally to blame.
Not only that. Imagine it Ross had initiated the breakup. Rachel then hooks with some dude, then Ross retroactively nullifies the breakup. The internet would have melted.
Exactly. Rachel got on my nerves a lot, and this ‘we were on a break’ stuff, and blaming it all on Ross, is a major awful moment of hers
Rachel didn't KNOW Mark was into her and even if she did she CHOSE to not do anything. Ross took his insecurities of his past relationship and put them on her. He chose to sleep w that copy girl on his own. Even if she did have Mark over that didn't mean she did anything which she DIDN"T. Ross was still in the wrong. Monica was right, it was Rachels decision and she chose Ross over mark and that wasn't good enough.
@@brittanycoolidge4101 I never said Ross was not to blame for sleeping with that girl. I am just saying that Rachel was not as pure and blameless like everyone {even she} thinks.
She didn’t “run to” Mark, he showed up unannounced to check on her when he heard about their fight, he was in his own relationship with another woman and was just being a good friend and Ross was paranoid about Mark from the second he met him and made assumptions instead of just trusting his girlfriend all because he was cheated on by his ex-wife. And rather than go to the apartment or wait to talk to Rachel he slept with another woman, and the only reason Rachael wanted a break was because Ross was being clingy, paranoid and suffocating when all she was doing was focusing on her job.
Doctor Who, when the Thirteenth Doctor learned she wasn't the thirteenth, but like the 1013th, as the Time Lords had used her as a Jason Bourne-like super-spy, the erased her memories and induced regeneration between missions. So, the fact that the Doctor left Gallifrey to explore the universe and help out when possible wasn't a case of free will, rather a lingering subconscious programming.
Then that doozy was topped by the reveal that Rassilon, Omega, and the Other weren't actually the founders of Time Lord civilisation, rather some gardener scientist did it, after she discovered a child who fell from a crack in reality, with the crack leading into what is basically heaven. So, the gardener discovered this god child was capable of infinite regeneration, so reverse engineered the Time Lord regeneration cycle from her. And the final kicker was that the god child was the Doctor, meaning that they have literally never been in danger because they can regenerate from anything and endlessly, unlike the usual Time Lord 12.
Oh, and another fun wretched twist was that the surviving Time Lords on Gallifrey were all killed by the Master, off-screen.
Honestly! 😂🙈 Was having a rant about this earlier 😂 Undoing 60 years of Lore and Character development. For why?! I hate that every show and movie atm leans into predestination nonsense. It invalidates the character! 😫 Whatever it is you love about them, their skill, their conviction, their experience/decisions... flush it down the loo, it was all programming or prophecy 🤦♀️
Jodie gets the flack for it being bad, when really it was the dumpster fire of a storyline 🙈🙈 Hoping RTD can do some writing magic and fix it somehow now he's back. Clearly desperately trying to re-engage the fan base with the Tennant & Tate specials 😅🙈
@@SupergirlUK Yeah, I agree it was unfair that Jodie got flack for doing a bad job. David Tennant himself wouldn't be able to salvage the wretched story lines she was stuck with.
The movie was mediocre, but it was eventually corrected that the 8th's claims of being "half-human on my mother's side," was actually a delusion brought about from regeneration mania, and the mania was earlier established in the 6th's run as he was frequently unstable.
The first two 2023 specials were good and the third was overall great, becoming a new classic.
The 2023 Christmas episode was pretty awful though; although, it had some okay ideas.
So, I'm worried but wanting to be hopeful for the new episodes in May.
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im sorry........WHAAAAAAT?! I didnt see 13 story line yet and im SO far behind. What episode is this???????
@@brittanycoolidge4101 I hope you're ready for a deluge. lol:
Series 11 is just bad, with occasional recycling of stories that were already done, but in a crappy version (eg. the finale involves a reality bomb like the one built by Davros, but instead it is made by some new lame villain). Despite the season's awfulness, it was generally inoffensive; series 12, however....
Series 12, episode 2 Spyfall Part 2 - The Master leaves a message about Gallifrey being purged of life by something.
Episode 5 Fugitive of the Judoon - The Judoon are, well, looking for a fugitive. A middle-aged human woman is being chased, but in an almost shot-for-shot rehash of the Chameleon Arch sequence from Family of Blood, Ruth opens a Time Lord fob watch, restoring her memories and status as the Time Lord the Doctor. The Fugitive Doctor and 13 don't know each other, which creates a mystery for the season.
Episode 9, Ascension of the Cybermen - When helping humans in the far future against the Cybermen, the Doctor finds a portal that reveals the ruins of Gallifrey. The Master arrives - yep, twice in one season - giving a vague threat.
Episode 10, The Timeless Children - The Master teleports Doctor to Gallifrey, forcibly putting her mind into the Matrix (not the movie, the database and VR from the classic series).
The Doctor learns she was a little girl who fell from basically heaven, was found by a gardener (not really, but she dresses like one); the gardener does experiments on the little girl, or rather god child, discovering she has the ability to endlessly regenerate into new forms to recover from fatal damage. The gardener replicates her powers on the people of Gallifrey, but with a 12 cycle limit, thus creating the Time Lords.
The god child grew to adulthood, and the Time Lord council would repeatedly memory-wipe and brainwash them to go on missions throughout the universe to interfere with any planet if it would benefit Gallifrey. One such incarnation was the Fugitive Doctor, revealing she was a past version predating the First Doctor.
Somehow, after another memory erasure, the now "First" Doctor was able to have a family, which lead to him and his granddaughter, Susan, to steal a TARDIS and fled into the universe to explore and help when possible - which was originally thought to be the Doctor's rebellious heroic nature, however, it was ultimately just a side effect of the brainwashing to prepare him for missions.
The Master learned of this origin, and was so disgusted that he owes his existence to the god child/Doctor that murdered every other Time Lord left. The Doctor is helped by her past self, Fugitive, to escape the Matrix and face the Master.
Though, the Master's motive wasn't just rage, rather because he acquired some Cybermen gadget called the Cyberium, which gives command over Cybermen and can create new ones instantly. The Master converts the dead bodies of the Time Lords into what he calls CyberMasters, which are Cybermen that can regenerate from damage.
The story also had some MacGuffin called the "death particle," which the Doctor is about to use, but she is teleported and replaced by someone who felt guilty for losing the Cyberium, and they detonate the death particle instead, which destroys Gallifrey. The Master and a few CyberMasters seem to escape, but we never see the latter again throughout the remainder of 13's run.
Series 13 had some rotten eggs too, like how there are Weeping Angels in the thousands who have jobs - they are employed by a galactic spy agency.
Then there is a season arc of some rip-off crystal villains who are the Doctor's "oldest enemies" who faced her when she was the Fugitive. The crystal aliens are working to free the Doctor's "greatest enemy."
Also, if you remember the gardener who created Time Lords from the god child, well, she is back; and she is the one who runs the spy agency that the Weeping Angels work for (among Sontarans, Cybermen, and even Daleks).
The Doctor's greatest enemy turns out to be time. I don't mean in a poetic sense, the literal personification of Time was imprisoned and has been the greatest enemy since always now. Conveniently, Time takes the shapes of other people, so they didn't have to bother hiring another actor.
It’s nice to see that I wasn’t the only one who was unhappy with the ending of HIMYM. I felt like I wasted so much time watching it and it was so pointless. I’ve never hated a show much like I hate HIMYM.
Not only that, but they wasted all of Barney's character development, robbed us of some nice storylines with Lilly and Marshall as parents and killed off the most underrated character aka Tracy.
Let's not forget, that Chuck Bass trade Blair for hotel, this is exactly that I do not like Blair and Chuck as a couple, I like them when they are not together.
I respectfully disagree here. Chuck was pretty despicable from episode 1. Not to mention, he went after Blair, who was heartbroken over his best friend, cyberbullied her on Gossip Girl, and ghosted her during their trip to Martha's vineyard. When you consider all that, him trading her for a hotel was well within character. Also, I thought their relationship was toxic as hell, but lets be honest, they CARRIED that show on their backs.
Arizona Robbins losing her leg, getting depressed and taking it all out on Callie and blaming Callie for everything especially the loss of her leg despite Callie doing so to save her life, withholding sex from Callie, and then cheating on Callie with another woman during a storm of all things. To quote Callie's father, what happened to her "man in a storm" speech? Not to mention her biphobia. And Arizona taking Sofia away from her biological mother Callie despite previously not even wanting kids in the first place.
At least Spike didn’t have a soul when he attacked Buffy. He also didn’t have a soul when he decided to be good and join the scooby gang, meanwhile Angel was only good because he was forced to have a soul… then when we meet Angel without a soul he’s far worse than Spike. That alone proves that Spike is better than Angel. Spike actually went out of his way after attacking Buffy to get his soul back even though he knew it meant being tortured for eternity, which inadvertently made him eligible to sacrifice himself to save the world in the series finale. So I’d say he really did come back from that even though it’s a tough pill to swallow. Change my mind! You won’t!
It is unfair to compare the two situations. Would Spike have changed his ways at all if not for the chip that was put in his head? I highly, highly doubt it. He loved being a villain and evil before then. He would not have changed at all if he wasn’t put in that situation. That situation allowed him to evolve into a good guy who fell in love with Buffy and then purposely sought out to regain his soul, but evidence that he would have changed without that is very little. It is even arguable that the chip acted as a soul in its own way. It forced a sense of morality on him that he would not have had otherwise just the same as when Angel was cursed with his own soul. The question is, would Angel have done what Spike did if he had a chip put in his head? It's hard to say, which is why the comparison between the two is unfair.
Cordelia having sex with Connor in season 4 of Angel.
Ruined Cordelia. Ruined Connor. Ruined season 4 and almost ruined the show.
At least season 5 was good.
Connor always sucked. He was the worst thing that was ever brought into Angel. But I bet if Cordelia had come back as herself instead of possessed then nothing would have happened between them sexually.
When I look back at a character who I felt was ruined by both bad writing and at times felt like the should could run without them, it’s Max Russo from Wizards of Waverley Place. While he claimed he took time off to catch up on school work, Think about it. When he became Maxine it wasn’t just a one episode thing, he was gone for a lot of episodes and an entire movie/special. Don’t get me wrong, Max was a good character with great episodes, but if you really think about it, compared to Alex and Justin who had the while brother vs sister dynamic, Max at time was just kinda there and felt like a third wheel. Don’t get me wrong, Max had it at times too, but it was never the same
Yeah, same thing with Justin and CeCe Jones who might’ve been the most unlikable protagonist I’ve ever watched from a Disney Channel show. And the sad part is she wasn’t a dumbass piece of shit in the earlier episodes. She actually cared about other people’s well-being and in one episode, was revealed to be dyslexic. But they never bring up that fact again for the rest of the show and later on, she’s suddenly stupid and everyone else treats her like she’s stupid! And her behavior in episodes like Made In Japan didn’t make it any better for me!
I agree. That made Max so profoundly stupid in later seasons, it makes you forget he was able to get a jerkass genie to undo all the wishes Alex made by pouring orange soda inside her lamp, and the some.
@@knightwolf9863 I agree 100%. When I rewatched the series again, there’s something that happened that proved to me that sadly he was a third wheel. Both Alex and Justin had forbidden love interests Alex with Mason and Justin with Juliet, but Max never had that happen ever. I know it’s minor, but if you think about it Alex and Justin’s forbidden love stories had arch’s that went for episodes and even became specials. Max never got that. In fact, while he did tell a girl he liked that he was a wizard, he could have easily met someone and never told them, said “This is my girlfriend” and the show would have gone in fine
What about final season of pretty little liars and the reveal of Uber A In the show. Fantastic job on the video ms mojo of tv show moments that ruined great television arcs in there shows too.
TV writers should start to treat each season as if it’s the last one and do a better job of improving all of the characters’ story arcs.
Agreed!! Then we'd have more quality content than a bunch of B.
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I still think the final scenes of The Last one were all in Ross's head as he and Phoebe are heading back to Monica's apartment for the remainder of said episode.
Sayid was infected, but is redeemed when he sacrifices himself to try to save everyone else. There’s way more to it than he got infected.
Penny, not wanting to be a mother, was such a neat thing for the character, i felt a connection im not interested in being a parent either. Too bad the show dropped the ball with her
Elizabeth Keen The Blacklist.
TV shows have been showing us dysfunctional toxic relationships since the beginning and we all now use THAT as a guide for ourselves. In reality hollywood has been helping with toxic/abusive/manipulative relationships for years and we just didn't realize it.
IMO Rory’s arc actually made a lot of sense. Someone who puts that amount of pressure on themselves will eventually crack. And Rory did get her life back on track by the end and she became more of an adventurous person who would actually use her voice at the end of the show.
AYITL is what really ruined her arc, but it also ruined everyone’s arcs, literally every single character
HIMYM has the worst ending!
I think Prince Charles might just suck, so I don't think that's a ruined character arc because the writing is poor
Some others
- Andy leaving to sail on his boat (The Office)
- Haley ending up with Dylan (Modern Family)
Agree 100% about Jamie. He was my favourite character and it made me so beyond mad when they threw all his character development on the fire. Don't think I will ever forgive the writers for that.
So Basically DreamCorp LLC (2016-2020) After season 2 still loved that show though
What about Alex in Grey's Anatomy?
Jane leaves Owen, Drop Dead Diva
Jamie returning to Cersei is the first thing that comes to my mind.
AGREED!!!
I could name a few shows that had poor last seasons because of the writing like vampire diaries ,supernatural ,True blood, and so much more
Astounded you never mentioned that idiotic thing of the ninth season of Dallas was actually a dream.
In the big bang theory I always felt they were mocking the geeks they were supposedly targeting, always making it seem like you had to leave all the geek things you liked behind to "grow up"
Sheldon is worse in TBBT than young sheldon tbh, he had his sister, brother and dad to keep him in check and now here is friends basically have to live their lives around him. He is so arrogant, even me as an autistic adult understands most basic social ettiquette. Sheldon is just a whiny child when he doesn't get his way and then his mom needs to straighten him out. At least Leonard had some backbone along with Penny. Like damn.
As someone who started Gossip Girl KNOWING it was Dan, it makes the show hard to watch at some parts. Like in season 2 when they’re trying to find Jenny and Dan is on the computer in front of them and is like “oh my god look at what’s on Gossip Girl.”
I could have gotten behind Toby revealing the information if he thought it was genuinely the right thing to do. They actually could have sold that. The part that makes it out of character is that he does it as a leak and lies about it for weeks, letting people he supposedly cares about fall under suspicion. The writers cared more about a shocking reveal than writing something plausible and in-character.
Dan in gossip girl
I’d like to mention a popular show among Black audiences on the CW, ‘The Game.’ Melanie giving up med school to become a football wife to Derwin was terrible.
As someone who has been rewatching the first 5 seasons (AKa the best ones), I couldn't agree more. But in all fairness, the writers did Melanie dirty since the beginning. Despite begging her to marry him, Derwin constantly played games, but whenever they showed her growing a backbone and moving on from him, suddenly the writers did a 180 and made her crawl back to him, only for the cycle to repeat even after they got married.
Since I've never watched any of these series, i have no idea, but still, great top. Happy friday night, Jen. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
I see HIMYM and I agree ! Also WCTH after hiring a ridiculously bad showrunner
Shameless shouldn't be on this list, by the nature of the show, making the characters bad decisions is in its essence; the rest of the list is right.
Toby wouldn’t ever had be the leak - The West Wing
How else would a character's arc be ruined besides bad writing? 🤷🤷🤷
I don't believe Ross and Rachel would stay together after the finale. I'm sure if there was season 11, they would have broken up by episode 1 or 2.
So and So get together. Then So and So break up. Then So and So get back together. Friends, Big Bang Theory and That 70's Show.
Any more⁉️
Toby's fall was RIGHT in line with his Character arc he was an ideologue who thought his Morel Compass was superior to everyone else's
All these iconic shows that I was invested in,now mojo says look at the down side and life is not perfect or happy end but maybe better ending… not always but, I enjoyed the experience with all stories.
There are moments in shows that prove they have great writing
These are not those moments
I've seen maybe 2 episodes of Friends, and that's about 2 too many.
I did not hate Spike momment from Buffy. After that he got the soul and sacrificed his live for everyone
HIMYM ending ruined the entire show for me. And I really loved the first few seasons 😬
Disagree with Rachel. Rachel had a child with Ross and I think it would have been selfish for her to take her child away from their father.
agree. and let's be real. if Rachel still decides to go. we won't see the final iconic scene where all the characters gather and leave Monica's purple apartment together😁
I agree with most of this. But I do want to say that the idea that Rachel and Ross shouldn’t end the show together is a little ridiculous.
Sorry #msmojo, but have to strongly disagree with #10 ... I know a lot of women in my life, most notably, my own sister and in her early adult years claimed she NEVER want a child ... Yet, when she found out that she was pregnant in December 2001 (she was 32 at the time), she not only gave birth to a beautiful baby girl, but in the almost 22 years afterward, she says that was the best moment of her life.
And with "Friends," she had a child with Ross and she has always loved him after that videotape of her & Monica getting ready for their senior prom. Including her saying to Ross how thinking about not seeing him every day makes her not want to go to Paris ... "I can not believe that after 10 years you don't know one thing about me ... I can't even begin to explain to you how much I am going to miss you ... When I think about not seeing you every day, it makes me not want to go .. So if you think I didn't say goodbye to you because you don't mean that much to me, you're WRONG ... it's because you mean more to me. So there! There's your goodbye!" sorry, thumbs down!
i liked that penny got pregnant
I think Cordelia was badly let down by Angel's writers. She had a demon baby and then just kinda disappeared.
I didn't mind Jamie's fate at all. He'd spent his whole life worshipping his sister, knowing full well who she was. It seemed appropriate that, in the end, he returned to her.
or sometimes they would hire people who are not qualified like fanfiction writers from Twitter and tumbler to be on that project or sometimes they run out of ideas And they basically Cannon stuff or try to make it canon
Fanfiction writers sometimes had more talent and brains than those so called professional writers
Big Bang theory used to be one of my favourite comfort shows but over the years I’ve just lost interest in it sadly I just can’t stand some of the characters like Bernadette and Amy
What happened to the girl we all wanted as our best friend?
Her mom set a crappy example
Yep I think cheating on Luke with her married ex-husband qualified as an example
#10: Uh, pregnancy changes people - if you need a TV example, watch the Cheers episode where, upon Lilith announcing she was pregnant with Frederick, less than 30 seconds pass between Frasier (in agony from being hotfooted by Carla's son) stridently insisting "I'm not ready to be a father" and joyously declaring "I'm going to be a daddy?!"
Spike assaulting Buffy was a misunderstanding they played rough he thought she was playing hard to get!
Haven't seen all these but definitely agree. That 70's Show should've ended before that horrible final season.
I was personally thrown by the Big Bang finale... I was starting to think there'd finally be a female character who stuck to their guns about not wanting kids, but they had to throw that in just for a full circle moment- Leonard saying "our babies will be smart and beautiful."
As someone whose main relationship goal is getting married (hopefully just the one time) and not having kids, I want so badly for that to be represented more in media.
And yeah, I was mildly bummed Penny gave up the acting cuz I honestly thought she'd make it at some point. The upside was her new job being something she was really good at and had a lot of success with. Made more money than Leonard if I remember correctly- her and Bernadette both outperforming their men.
*Who also goes on RUclips for 10 minutes and loses at least 2 hours? 😄*
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who ask stupid questions
*raises hand*
Friends! This is just one thing that got messed up! When the show first started, I liked Monica, I could rout for her. She was like the most mature character on the show, but I couldn't stand her by the end of the show. She was selfish, self centered, loud, immature, neurotic, irritating, and untrustworthy ( remember Joey's soap party on the roof, and the karaoke episode and Monica wearing the see through blouse)!
Honestly, the HIMYM finale ruined the entire series for me. I refuse to rewatch it because I know the show is pointless.
Ted Mosby is literally me
Sucks for you
@@JMwhocares I totally agree with you
Friends has ruined Rachel's chances to persue her dream job in Paris and deciding to get off the plane to get back together with Ross.
Daenerys’ sudden awful character arc was way worse than Jamie’s
#1 should be "every character in Game of Thrones within the span of the last season". Jamie, Cersei, Daenerys, Arya, Sansa, Jon Snow, Tyrion - they all had to become different characters in order to shoehorn the dumb plot twists into the story. I will never revisit that series, which is a shame, because there was some really good stuff up until the point where the writers stopped caring.
lmao
Sorry, MsMojo, but the fact that Rachel blamed Ross for cheating even though the break was _her_ idea is the thing that’s unforgivable.
she suggested that because he had shown he didn't trust her and even invaded her work place, slept with someone soon after the break up and then tried to hide it, sorry that doesn't make his action right. I still don't buy that break up mean get another partner it suppose to be thinking over their relationship.
It was because Ross became overly paranoid with Rachel spending time with Mark esp. when Mark visited her in the apartment and Ross called Rachel then Ross heard Mark's voice
@@charliejoson9145so? mark liked her but she didn't act when she was with ross, ross was paranoid and didn't trust her that what caused the break up sorry. rachel is not perfect but she didn't do anything wrong here (unless she not allowed to talk to men which is possessive) or when he wrote a list of why he shouldn't be with her (her flaws).
After 30 years, why is it still so hard for people to admit that maybe the man _isn’t_ to blame? I went through something similar later on in life; you don’t want me, but then no one else gets to have me? That’s not how it works.
@@COMPFUNK2 sorry to offend, I was talking about a fictional character though not you. also, if rachel was the paranoid one who didn't trust ross, invaded his work, slept with someone soon after and tried to hide it then I would be saying the same about her. seem you had some bad experience but I am allowed my own opinions thank you. I don't blame males all the times by the way but are you sure you ain't attacking rachel because she a woman?. again rachel done bad too but not being cheated on.
Jaime Lannister.
Omg
You CHEATED ⁉️
IT'S OVER ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Game of Thrones ruined many characters at the end. Jaime and Daenerys were the ones with the worst outcomes.
or the funniest :)