This YouTuber Got Banned and Nobody Knows Why
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You would hope RUclips would have sent him some warnings about his content before they banned him (maybe they did, but he didn't show those). They really need to work on being more transparent with their rules and communication with their creators.
Yeah, but also, if he's breaking the law...idk, I don't feel like they needed to
the issue is that both platforms are too big for them to hire enough people to have 1:1 conversations with creators about it, though I think that should be the norm. the issue is moderation has to be automated in some way and only receives scrutiny on the highest level, just due to the fact that there's over 70,000 hours of content uploaded to youtube alone every day. the companies wouldn't survive if they had to have 8000 people working full time just doing the moderation, and that doesn't even count the hours they'd spend talking to creators. as far as steve goes, I've just watched him eat big pizza but wasn't really interested in his content so I have no horse in that race. definitely agree warnings should happen before the bans and transparency is super important though.
Community guidelines, sure. Breaking US laws, no way. The police doesn't warn you if you rob someone either.
Nelk channel got in big trouble for crypto gambling, they made it public they would never do it again and cut ties with the sketch balls. Steve was aware, he did live streams full of people telling him to stop before he got raided and sent to guantanamo bay, hes been to jail, he chose lambo life.
Edit: steve was doing drunk gambling CONSTANTLY with roo bets (guaranteed win accounts), they were prob flagged or he removed all of them.
He had multiple strikes
I just wish they would cite where the infractions are and what they are so people aren't left wondering what the hell they did. Shouldn't have to make a big fuss on twitter to figure out what the issue was
They wont do it because as more reasons are added, it creates a precedent that they’d have to follow up with their cash cows. If they keep it vague at all times then they can remove who they want and not be hypocritical
@@Pheatan the real answer.
if the rules are gray like you said then I agree with you that there should be a warning, now if he continued after the warning then that's on him.
He’s been getting warned for years dawg
Bro this dude got tons of warnings and strikes and made multiple accts to combat the band due to all his lame ass gambling shit. Who the hell feels bad about This?
I ageee!
ludwig is so smart when he uploads a video before stream or after, hes said himself its the best way to promote/get views but its seriously impressive
Different channel …..
Does nothing to boost other channel
Pretty fucking basic tbh
That’s been a thing people have done for nearly a decade Lol, stop acting like this
pretty easy when has people paid to do it all for him (not hating just stating how it is)
Stop riding (and whoever liked the comments)
The dude got his gambling channel banned and then decided to do it on his channels. I believe he knows 100% the reason why he got banned. I do believe he should have gotten at least 1 warning letting him know and delete or correct the videos he got flagged for.
Yea idk why no one understands it’s cuz of gambling
Yeah I was coming here for all the comments saying the obvious truth that this was deserved, but it seems not everyone is aware of the scams that Steve been apart of
adin ross...........Jake paul.........faze clan..........dafuq do you mean
its cause he made a 2nd channel and put the .com link in his vid without blurring it out. A lot of media does not allow URL's to be displayed or mentioned on tv specifically. I think thats why they deleted his sht, his 2nd channel had stake or roobet website without being blurred out i think. Shark tank is the same they will not allow any URL's to be displayed on packaging of the products or mentions of it either by the people pitching their business. I forgot a couple more shows and as well as just noticing how always website URL's are blurred in videos
If you’ve watched his videos there are many things I feel he could’ve gotten banned for with RUclipss standards. This is why I think there needs to be another RUclips platform only for adults and enforce RUclips kids to only be for kids vice versa. Idk how they would figure out how to do that but it would let more adult friendly RUclips content more relevant and not suppressed by everything has to be kid friendly content. Then people like Nelk boys can make their crazy entertaining content safely without taking a chance at losing their platform altogether.
I agree, if your channel gets banned for community guidelines strikes, you should get three warnings and then a ban. I think RUclips needs to put a system in place so people can't get hit with all three strikes and the ban at the same time. Maybe one warning per 24 hours?
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Warning per week. If back catalogues can get hit, then creators need time to scrub
What makes you think he wasn't warned? That's ignorant.
Usually the case is. If 4 videos break the guidelines you get 1 strike. He had multiple videos that broke the guidelines. They can slap all 12 videos, give you 3 strikes on spot. I got 2 strikes quickly once. So I ended up deleting a bunch of videos.
@@stuwest5862 probably because a lot of youtubers haven’t gotten warnings before getting banned. It’s not ignorant when it’s happened multiple times already. There’s a reason complaining on Twitter has become the default reaction to RUclips strikes, because their customer service has always been shitty.
i appreciate the acknowledgement of gambling above your means vs streamers gaming with money that is given to them. And the transparency of your experiences with the effects of gambling with money you do have but maybe isn't 100% responsible.
Pumped, in the middle of editing and about to listen to this vid in the background!
I mean with all the confusion and greyness it's good to see youtube doing something right and actually taking action with something, it still blows my mind how many upper level things that should be handled by an hr system is handled through twitter tho.
I think having a NFT profile picture is more than enough reason to get banned from every platform there is. But yeah, being a gambling shill doesn't help.
that last bit with the twitter thread was amusing, love mogul mail!
3:24 Fun fact: Here in Mexico gambling is strictly prohibited by the constitution, but this places pay a ceratin amount of money to the gobernment and instead of calling their place a "casino" they call them "Gambling Houses" or stuff like that, so instead of changing the constitution, they make the long way around it for more money. This also means that in contrast to the USA, there is no gobernment agency tasked with protecting the win rates, so you might be playing a legal, impossible to win machine, so if you come to Mexico don't gamble, because if it's bad in a place where they need to let a certain amount win, what about a place where you can't win.
Immediately when you said he was drinking excessively my mind went "this is probably self harm"
If i remember the story right, before the video and months before, he had a breakup I think it at some point around the video was taken said "fuck it' and started doing dumb things and that became the start of what he became now.
Its to cope with all the scamming he does.
He is not a good person, just pretends to be.
@@nsbdbsbsbdbzbz8555 how does he scam?
@@jared5610 rigged gambling, NFTS, CRypto rugpulls
And all then other bullshit
appreciate you continuing to talk about the sponsored gambling stuff lud. between the stupid online slots and sportsbooks gambling is as prominent as ever to the youth and they need to be educated. You are at least making them think twice about it, thank you homie
Imo if you break the rules you break the rules. People always go off on twitch for making exceptions for their bigger streamers, I think it's good for youtube to not be afraid to not do the same for their big creators, no matter how much it sucks for their fans
i clicked the link prepared for a rick roll, my expectations were shattered in the best way possible
The problem is RUclips's rules are super vague as fuck that it's unclear in a lot of situations when you actually broke the rules or not.
@@JacobRakowitz thats clearly a virus link
Still angry abt alinity ngl
@@Sephiroso. I'd assume they want the rules vague. The more vague the rules the more it covers at once, the more vague you can be with your bans and rule enforcement. Probably makes managing people easier when you can loosely decide if they've done something wrong or right by reading a rule that covers 500 things with its wording.
Stevewillscamit being found out. Love to see it.
"Healthiest man alive." my ass XD
I do hope that RUclips does give him the reason for the channel ban... While I want gambling to be off the platform all together, I find it unfair to ban someone without providing a reason.
youtube has gambling ads. that will never happen lol
Ya if anything the Ads need to go people hsve a choice of what they click on but anyone who complains about Steve needs to open there eyes to youtube forcing u watch a ad u didn't click on and not allowing you to close it for a certain length of time. Now I say everyone needs to controll themselves so let whatever be out there but imagine youtube sold ads to heroin dealers and tell me how u feel when they force u to watch someone get high off of something ur trying ur hardest to not do. And tell u how clean and good it feels and where u can get it right now.
@@scotts1668 This is not the comment for this kind of reply... please leave and have a good day.
@@SirGrimly I was replying ti beanin in space not u. U mean nothing to me and idfc about u. Got it? 👋 🤣😉
Coffeezilla & Some Ordinary Gamers did a full expose showing how he was gambling while still in the US on crypto gambling platforms that are illegal here, how he repeatedly lied about it, lied about who was paying him and he obviously repeatedly didn’t meet platform standards. Good riddance. Dude sucks.
agreed, especially after seeing what his target audience is
Glad that garbage is wiped off
🤦♂️ I can’t wait for this population to die out
@@jesse5505pretty random thing to hate, you have something against his audience?
"If needed." 🤣🤣🤣
Apart from what the violation is there should always be a warning so they can correct their mistake
Another great day thanks to Ludwig
Didn't he get a ton of warnings because of his content? I swear I've seen that before because of his drinking content or something.
Yeah
You referencing whose line just blew my head off
Opening line goes hard 😂😂
ludwig casually revealing he's been on cold ones
Bro its been released imagine not watching the yard
Because he scammed his viewers with online gambling (and potentially money laundering his affiliate code). Just my friends thought
Brah whether he did it or not, right or wrong everyone is doing it. The question is why is Steve being targeted and noone else.
@@d9637 who else? On RUclips? he promoted drugs and gambling to kids. It’s wrong and I’m happy he’s gone
@@HilaLeftMe lol seriously how about music videos and rappers who rap and talk about killing, gang banging and selling and doing drugs You ever hear of a rapper being banned from youtube? There are 1000s of gambling channels and even legit scams being pushed. Logan and Jake Paul and their buddies openly scammed their viewers many times and still operate. Logan Paul had mike tyson on and he ate a hand full of shrooms on stream Joe Rogan smokes weed and drinks on all his streams. I can go on...how about all the sexual content on youtube being pushed to kids. They all still operate with subs in the millions.
@@HilaLeftMe I remember quite a lot of CSGO RUclipsrs who promotes gambling to there younger audience. I think it was Syndicate and TMartn who actually owned a gambling site but just acted like they had no affiliation to it while they promoted it. They were once pretty big RUclipsrs and still have like 5+ million subs.
Exactly, so deserved!
Talking down on two channels that blow yours out of the water. Jealousy is a sad thing to have
4:40 moral licensing is the term you are looking for my friend
“Gatorade competitor that is probably going to be bought for a billion dollars”
Someone has been watching Colin and Samir shorts
I love watching these kinds of videos, It really feels like I'm having an intelligent convo with someone without the excessive in your faceness of other youtubers. Thank you Ludwig.
Sounds kinda... parasocial 👀
ludwig and intelligent dont work too well together
There is no "convo" it's a pretty one way street. Which is fine because that's what youtube is for but just be aware of that before you slip too far in the parasocial sauce
@@m_uz1244 I didn't mean for it to sound parasocial, I just meant it feels way less produced than other youtubers. Which is better IMO.
Oh I remember that Steve gambling clip in Mexico from some Ludwig stream where he talked about gambling. Or maybe a previous mogul mail
Nice who's line reference lol
He started stream literally a minute after he posted this
Hey ludwig, What is your opinion on the youtube channel "Lion family"? It is obviously targeted to kids so vibrant colours are semi ok but like with how fast everything moves and the over reliance on quick jumps i'm certain that 95% of the content is pure brain rot while the other 5 is random colours with their saturation turned up to the max.
2 types of people I won't gamble with: Online Brokers and Magicians.
8:28 that’s the glory of that post since it could go either way
I'm gonna guess it's because he continuously promoted shady gambling sites
*cough cough* ricegum
And it’s 100% deserved. Glad he’s gone
I wonder if it has anything to do with his gambling shenanigans.
I wonder
Nah I think it has to do with the content of his videos. They tried to do a similar thing with the other channel he's involved in, Nelk. I'm not sure how they got out of it, but a couple years ago they had every video being age restricted and I believe they received several strikes. RUclips doesn't want his type of content on the platform, for whatever reasons they may have.
man the longer i got into this video the more i liked it. from the suicide forest comment to the nelk boys. just pure honest thought. thanks man
8:15 had me on the floor, the lack of self awareness of some people man 😂
I used to watch him a bit, cant say im shocked he got banned. Not sad he was either, dude has made such a ridiculous amount of money off scams and gambling sponsorships
And gave hundred of thousands to people in need
@@swiftruggerio5854 he's like mr beast without morals
@@sethp26 yeah fits but he's pretty nice does Funny stuff
@@swiftruggerio5854 ik i watched him, but that doesn't automatically make up for scams and taking millions in gambling sponsorships lol
@@sethp26 at least he gives some away he's not a bad guy without a doubt
I'm 24 and my go-to drink as a teenager was Jack Daniels - I was genuinely just physically sick at that first clip - HOW ON EARTH?!
In other news I like the fact he has to go through the appeal process and hope he comes out of it with a warning instead of complete deplatforming, would mean he has to put time and effort in as a kind of 'punishment' then the outcome would be the same, it would just make him more aware of his future actions
That who’s line joke was shocking but very good
The end of the video is what did it for me💀 mans commited friendly fire
There has to be something more for an instant ban that warranted it and we will probably never know exactly what it was. We still don’t even know why DrDisrespect got banned from twitch 🤣
That clip at 1:07 is a bad idea. That's how people get hurt. For real, that's just poison at that point.
It’s always poison 😎
the first sentence got a like out of me lol. whos line is it anyways was the show me and my dad watched every night when I was growing up
Ludwig wit a fresh cut from the wedding😩
We really don't need influencers who promote gambling.
True. Money that isn’t even theirs at that.
The sites promoted by stevewilldoit are highly unregulated and illegal in the US (like Roobet which is registered in Curacao in the Dutch Caribbean). Since he is based in LA and likely doesn't go to Mexico (at least sometimes) but uses a VPN its illegal activity.
Seeing Steve before his Veneers brings back flashbacks
Putting this journalism degree to use
That's the thing that bugs me most about all the sites like RUclips and Twitch - the NEVER specify that infractions. Just some waffily, nebulous PR bullshit in an email.
He should just get his parents to start a channel, or someone he trusts, and he just is an "employee" for them.
even tough I do not like any of the content that guys is making I still believe it is utterly absurd and unacceptable for youtube to just let him do his thing for a long while and then out of nowhere just ban him, they should be communicating with creators and really be more transparent, also should be warning people and asking them to take inappropriate content down before banning them
Love the whose line reference
best opening line yet thanks ludwig
I guess Steve Won'tDoIt
i know why
Ludwig on cold ones yeesh
That joke about the points in Whose Line is it Anyway made my day
right? banger whose line reference for the zoomer audience lool
Not very sad, tbh. He's a tool.
I fundamentally disagree with _any_ ban, of literally anyone at all without an explicit reason given.
RUclipss total lack of transparency is absurd*, and frankly should be illegal. If you set up shop in a managed building, rent or buy a place, etc, there are laws that give you reasonable set of rights so they cant just come round and kick you out for arbitrary reasons. Yes, the situation isnt exactly analogous, and yes even in real life there are major issues, but just giving a reason that can be challenged is the absolute least a major platform owner should be mandated to do.
I dont really care about this RUclipsr in particular, but this kind of thing impacts lots of creators and puts peoples lively hoods at risk.
*This doesnt just apply to creators either, the fact that shadow banning is the default is utterly ridiculous. I can not be certain this comment will get through, nobody really can, write anything with some controversial words in it and you may run afoul of a filter and your posts wont actually be online. RUclips doesnt tell you this, you can only find out by double checking their existence in private windows and the like, you will never have any idea why your posts failed to get through or have any means to correct yourself. As someone who swears quite liberally in casual conversation it took me months to realize that great chunks of anything I posted never actually appeared to anyone else. For a long while Id mostly just been talking to the algorithm alone... its f***ing dystopian and has broad chilling effects on often essential conversations.
Thank you for making this comment. We now live in a social media world, so everyone should have the right to be in any platform, and the right of freedom of speech
@@MichelePonte unless that platform is privately owned...then they can literally do whatever they want with it...
Yep, yt needs to up their transparency
@@TeatanXD they literally don't, they privately own the site and can do whatever the fuck they want with it haha. Your freedom of speech isn't violated by YT deplatforming you. It's literally THEIR right to do that. They OWN it. Do you understand?
@@ebon5357 Sure but I'm pretty sure Stevewilldoit knows exactly why he got banned. *Roobet* and surrounding illegal activity.
i like these videos since it makes me feel in tune with some drama going on since i deleted twt
you also do all the research for us
Guy looks like a budget Gronk.
What I think it was is due to his 2nd channel getting perma banned for gambling then he made life of Steve which was the exact same channel just re branded so I think him getting banned then doing it again basically gave them 0 options
I feel like this doesn't truly cover what Steve was actually doing. I recommend watching Coffezilla's videos on this guy.
🤣 coffees input isnt unique
@@Immigrants-Son It's not unique. It just covers the whole story. It's more valuable than anything you have to say, that I know for sure.
Edit: Maybe if you only watch the first part, it isn't particularly insightful but it gets very interesting later on.
Praise Lud for explaining this, I thought I was tripping
Love who's line
Steve has been promoting nefarious sites, crypto gambling, and scams for a very long time. If he got banned it was deserved.
Edit: i mean drake does the same shit to a bigger audiance and will never get banned, so social media double standard no surprose...
Roobet and stake are safe sites to use and the only sites Steve has ever promoted.
@@350oven4 they are proven gambling scams
Yes, I can’t believe he finally got banned! What a great day!
even the Kardashian have done it, its crazy how nobody talks about these larger more popular and influential people that have preyed on their fans and willingly play their part in scams and shady activities across many social media sites.. if I remember correctly kim kardashian was promoting some crypto coin like last year which pretty obviously turned out to be a pump and dump. I think one of the other Kardashian's promoted some fake music festival too. You never hear about backlash or ToS violations for these crazy influential celebrity types. The double standard really is absurd
Does Drake have a RUclips channel though?
Honestly I think RUclips made the right call on this. The whole influencer Gambling scene is a complete cancer right now. Aside from the fact that most of the people watching it are going to be underage, it’s just enabling addicts and potentially creating new ones. The less of them the better.
at the same time if they were to do this too multiple big youtubers and not just him then im sure everyone would agree the lack of warnings and transparency are a big issue
youtube itself promotes gambling. they run ads for a ton of gambling sites lol
So we aren’t going to mention the Robert House of Cards? Coffeezilla I’ll and SOG are a must watch.
Ludwig: "RUclipsrs getting canceled doesn't really affect them"
Tobuscus: .........................
okay start the stream :3
Steve had some questionable morals, but overall he did a lot of good for a lot of people. don’t think he deserved a total permaban.
Bro this dude got tons of warnings and strikes and made multiple accts to combat the band due to all his lame ass gambling shit. Who the hell feels bad about This?
questionable morals? wtf are you even talking about? you parasocial freaks act like you know someones who life through the lens of the internet
@@kstarr3555 who cares 😂 you sound like a hater
@@kstarr3555 Ur Mom
He's a literal scammer
2:24 uneven eyes
i see ludwig is mimicing penguinz0 with this news-like stuff
I assume he got banned for promoting dangerous behaviour akin to self-harm. Downing an entire bottle of Jack Daniels in under a minute could certainly lead to alcohol poisoning in most people.
It could have been because of the gambling but the whole alcohol thing seems a lot more clear cut. The fact that he didn't get a warning before getting banned is pretty dumb though.
he doesn't really upload alcohol videos anymore. Those are just ehat Kickstarted his career.
I don't really watch steve but I know that he doesn't upload alcohol related videos now he just gives money away lol
@@dancool708 he has a bottle of whiskey or other in every single video lmao
The alcohol is definitely not the reason, just look at Houston Jone’s channel yet he’s never been banned.
@@poolbwoy6585 yeah but he’s not drinking like he was before. Did you see them when their vlog when they went to Italy? Or Mexico? They would chug liquor like water but that was a couple years ago. Now he’s recent videos were him giving his friends gift, he would give random people money. He went to Compton and gave away thousands of dollars in electronics for communities who weren’t as progressive as other cities. He went to Mexico and gifted people houses and rented apartments for others with enough money for a years rent. But, the whole gambling thing is very iffy.
You can tell Ludwig is afraid of getting canceled in this video. His genuine “reaction” to some of the clips with Steve and Nelk seem to be not genuine, combined with his nervous laughter which I think means “I hope the RUclips gods don’t frown on me for discussing this” makes the whole video seem strange to me. It feels like the way he commentated over this video, RUclips is over his shoulder waiting for him to slip up.
cause steve and nelk are super racist and most normal people dont like them
Brooo Tosh.0 I loved that shit as a kid, wish I could rewatch it
RUclips did send him warnings back in 2018 he mentioned in videos at one of the old bell house’s right around when the beer boot that he was so close to loosing his channel
Yeah, Steve was pretty funny. turned his channel into a Party/Charity channel, quite the odd combo. Basically every video he would give things away, buy things for his friends, buy houses and cars for random people. Every video, but he would also at some point in the video get drunk, and sometimes gamble. The whole partnership with Nelk and the UFC involves a lot of gambling.
Nelk and Steve definitely have built their own stuff, their merch is renewed with new waves multiple times a year. Which they plug every vid, plus they also have a seltzer company. They're just greedy AF and will do anything else that will boost their income, like gambling. Nelk is definitely worse than Steve morally though.
Yeah but his charity vids are staged and faked lol
He's done some stupid, shady shit, but so has everyone on this platform. He hasn't done any worse than other streamers/RUclipsrs and he gives back quite a lot even before the gambling from what I've seen.
aw what an angel
Steve wont follow the rules, youtube just cant trust him thats why they removed him
"who's line is it anyway?"
*Core memory unlocked*
there’s also this one small star wars youtuber named filmakermike who got wiped out because his channel got hacked, sadly youtube won’t restore his channel
“Like James Charles when he got caught grooming straight guys” … Excuse me sir but I believe you meant to say CHILDREN.
I'm not complaining, scammers like Steve need to learn that youtube isn't their haven, and if what Steve says is true, that he has "no idea all of this is harmful/is a scam", then I dont think youtube can trust him to be smart enough to follow TOS. Creators need to be careful of who pays them, you shouldnt just take money from anyone without thinking there would be consequences.
Bruh, if even Ludwig who's career is centered around RUclips had to take an hour into looking at the ToS and the best he could come up with is "it's a whole big grey area" meaning Ludwig himself isn't entirely sure the exact reason why Steve was banned, then that's an issue with RUclips and their ToS.
He didn't even know he was doing anything wrong until Coffeezilla called him. You'd know if you saw that video that Steve says none of his friends said anything about it. And I believe him. Steve isn't a scammer, he just likes to have fun and his idea of fun can cross the line but it's never with ill intent.
Their cruise ship video was the only one i ever watched and that was enough to let me know what kind of guys these are lol
BUT no one should have their shit cut off like that without explanation or prior warnings to something they are doing wrong.
i’m ngl. that opening line has me hooked
Logan fought his way back up. He is truly someone completely different and that’s why he is bigger than he ever was.
The conversation Steve had with Coffeezilla shed a lot of light on the topic. Young guy, no real metric on whether the gambling antics he was doing were good or not. Surrounded by yes andys.
Got a draft kings ad on this video, the irony 😂
Stake is legal in 46 states in the USA. Shouldn't be a issue.
There needs to be some kind of warning before a permanent channel deletion. If RUclips is giving you warnings as you upload and you continue to ignore that and produce the same content, that's fine. If you have a backlog of content that all suddenly gets pulled up for review at once, and you get banned out of the blue (from your perspective) without a chance to edit that content and remove the offending material, then that's a broken moderation system.
You writing and commentary is at the top of all RUclips creators and “drama channels” could really learn a thing of two from studying Mogul Mail uploads. Cough cough Keemstar…
Ludwig and Steve meet up!
A Grand Seiko beautiful timepiece - nice one Ludwig glad to see a man of taste. Wear it in good health.
Much respect and love Ludwig, but Steve was definitely charitable before his gambling started
Lud just loves to virtue signal.
And also loves to radicalize his fanbase, while being a white knight.
Not poggers at all.
The weird insults kinda put me off from this video. Don't get me wrong, I've never watched the beer guy in my life but lud is just being weirdly hostile
@@cosmicbilly HUH
@@craydussy exactly my thoughts as well. He didn’t even try to research at all on Steve probably looked at a few twitter and Instagram posts. And all those negative comments as well, on a guy who’s been more charitable than he’s been before his gambling sponsor.
Ludwig doesn’t “promote” gambling yet he gambled 50k away, crying that he lost 100k. and played poker in front of 90k viewers in that poker tournament in my opinion that is promoting gambling.
@@350oven4 Ludwig losing his own money gambling on his private time is somewhat different from someone gambling with fake money to promote gambling lol
steve will do it rear ended my toyota camry and drove away in 2016. i hate that son of a gun. i’ve never loved anything more than that damn camry.
Proof?
@@KKDriver yeah bro type in toyota camry crash in the search bar and you’ll probably see it
the wheel of chug host sounds so much like trevor moore to me
I think the coffeezilla videos started coming up in peoples recommended again, I got recommended one the other day about the Nelk boys