Accidentally said deflect instead of block for the riot shield - in case anyone is confused, no, the riot shield does not reflect damage. Only the dual blades can do this
Deflect was actually used correctly. The Dual Blades *Reflect* bullets. The shield blocks bullets but deflect is a synonym in this case as you are stopping the bullets momentum either way.
For the throwing knives, you can alt fire and then immediately cloak and it’ll keep you cloaked throughout the animation and even as you throw. It’s been broken for so long and I cannot believe it’s not fixed yet!
another tip with throwing knifes Theres a random bloom on the first shot ONLY and ONLY while sprinting (main fire) so if you want your main fire to be 100% accurate on the first throw, let go of sprint first.
@@lukaslilley9917 If it did have 1.5: - Each knife deal 40 dmg - They'd deal 60 which means one burst would deal 120. So yeah it does have 2x headshot.
3:50 this is not counter strafing, it's called anti mirroring. Mirroring is when you match movement direction with the enemy to make it easier to aim, anti mirroring is when youdo the opposite. It results in having to move your crosshair more, which makes aim smoothing more effective
@@Elfsta_2 aim smoothing makes your recoil less aggressive when moving your mouse sideways. When you mirror movement, you are doing that less, since your movement is doing most of the sideways adjustments for you. When you anti mirror, you traditionally make the sideways movements longer for you and your opponent, making you harder to hit, but it also has the effect of making aim smoothing kick in at distances it otherwise wouldn't counter strafing is a term from counter strike, it lets you stop moving faster by tapping the opposite movement direction right after letting go of the movement key, it has nothing to do with the finals, mixing and matching already in use terms when theres a better one is pointless and confusing
sword right click won't lunge if you jump ks-23 reload is faster from an empty mag 1887 will a have reload cancel shooting if you start a reload from an empter mag you can invis during the throwing knives right click animation and be invisible while you throw it hiding behind a barricade with the hammer is an easy way to bait people to come to you CL40 is best paired with demateralizer because being able to have instant high ground or remove the floor under your enemy makes the weapon much better. if you don't have time to reload your SA1216, most of the time it's better to simply shoot a round to go to the next 4 round burst before your next engagement
As a Heavy - Grenade Launcher main I can confirm that you're having the most fun when running the Charge ability. Two impacts from it can kill a light! The RPG is a great tool to have both in general and to help cover range in this build. You can also exploit the projectile behaviour of the grenade launcher and fire into rooms or areas where your opponents are while not needing line of sight unlike the other guns. This also means you do great at indoors, since there's less of a safe zone for the opponents to avoid the blast radius of the grenade with. I go even greedier with my kills and run a double mine set-up, trading hard defense for raw damage potential. For a more balanced setup, though, I'd recommend a defensive ability over double mines. Your teammates will also probably appreciate you more if you do so.
i see a lot of people call the knife alt fire bad, but its so good! its mainly useful for opening fights but can also be good for hitting people as soon as they turn a corner, or as soon as you turn a corner
I just realized if you play spy in TF2 you can apply a lot of the same tricks. The backstab hotbox also seems to work the same way except without face stabs I think
With the nerf to APS Turrets, MGL32 and CL-40 actually is better against them since they can deplete the APS health with 3 shots, letting you throw your grenades afterwards for extra damage
This is true, but when you are in a 1v1 duel and are not able to damage someone because they are standing in an APS, it can be pretty bad. so the data reshaper really helps!
just some additional tips, for your primary fire on keybind settings, u can use mouse scroll down or up for the alternate key, i recently using mouse scrolldown its very effective for weapons like v9s, famas, 93r, and lh1, so ur hands is not too stressed because of keep tapping your left click button P.S : OH YEAH IT WILL MAKES ESPECIALLY V9S AT THE MAXIMUM FIRE SPEED 😎
For sword, your velocity from when you start will always be the same when you end, meaning you always dash or hit some sort of speed boast before releasing your lunge. For dagger, always use dash with vanishing bomb, you get all the benefits of cloak but you still can choose a different special. For the cl-40, because it does bursts of damage and reloads bullets one at a time, if you are ever caught in a close encounter, try peaking around a wall when your enemy pushes you, and try to hide or dance around a wall to try and reload as much ammo as you can while your enemy chases you
Something that wasn’t mentioned is that the China Lake can break the same things other explosives can, you just need to fire like 8 shots at a wall to knock it down. Not super helpful in engagements but if you want to drop the objective or breach a wall with it you can which is very nice as a medium
Great video! Will say tough, the timing is a little funny. Played Finals with a rando bloke called Ronin yesterday, two games in a row. And now Im getting The Finals content from Ronin. The world works in mysterious ways ;).
A minor tip for the KS23. If you use the winch with this gun, you can very reliable use the winch to finish enemies. Because you deal exactly 100 damage with the gun, a winch and melee can take out the remaining 50.
tip for heavy GL try to play either a floor below or above someone in buildings bc grenade arms itself after 1 bounce so hitting the floor below someone itll det on the ceiling, bouncing on the ceiling will make it det on the floor
Dagger backstab area forgiving, yes. Easy, NO. Not saying it's impossible but take it from a t6 there will be TONS of scenarios where what you think should have backstabed doesn't and you get beamed by 2 turrets and 3 aks(end result may vary.) But, one tip for model and double barrel(I'm not sure about auto shotgun) is that ads does not give better recoil or spread.
Well I know one trick that I was using back in season 1: using cloak right after alt attack on trowing knifes will not break your invisibility and will allow to stay invisible both during the prepare of the throw and after it😊
@@ronin_fps nice, I used to be a apex fan before season 15 happened. I switched to cod and than I switched to finals. I wish I could come back to apex but ea and the devs are ruining it
LH1 is a monster when used correctly. I eliminated a heavy that was stealing my cache in less than half a second, despite the fact that it was being healed by a medium at the time PS: If you take your enemies by surprise, you can basically defeat the entire team in about a second. i won a round in a tournament when my allies had already left the game, defeating the whole team in a solo.
I think the Lewis is still better for the top % of players, but the m60 will be better for the large majority of people simply because it has much better ease of use
A) Thank you! B) Does the Recurve Bow do the same damage regardless if quick shot or fully charged up? C) As someone who hates the forgiving backstab of dagger, how to counter it? D) 1887, any tip on reload-interrupt? Sometimes you're caught reloading and that damn 1 second it takes for you to get through the animation costs your life. My only method is a quick to and from another weapon.
1. It does less damage the less time you draw the bow, but does not have damage dropoff so your arrow will do the same damage across any range. 2. Positioning. Place yourself in hard to get areas and places where you normally take long range engagements. It’s not guaranteed to work, but it really raises your chances. Other than that just jumping around with unpredictable movement can mess them up sometimes (also explosive mines) 3. Unfortunately I don’t know a whole ton about that at this time, but if I do I’ll put it in a future vid, the weapon quick swap is what I do as well
Heeeeeeeey where you on yesterday around 8pm ?! I seen a ronin in one of my matchs probably just a common name but still would be hell of coincidence xD
Counter point to the AK. Ive got dog water aim and use a whole mag per person. If I am miraculously getting a kill before the end of the mag, I should reload just incase
Definitely, you still have a mostly stationary target, and if they have melee weapons they’re pretty much dead. Also really good at stopping cahsouts, I rarely take it off when playing light. You just have to be slightly more careful than before
Tip from me - Total Light Class Death. Smash lights, hip throw lights into woodchippers, curbstomp lights, mog lights, pipe bomb lights mailboxes, troll lights, bully lights
This video was made a while ago so they weren’t out yet, but my best advice for these is to aim for the head as often as possible, the body shot dps isn’t great compared to other heavy weapons but it has insane headshot dps that outclasses everything else
@@ronin_fps Thanks for the respond! I felt like that they were super inconsistent, but the body dps says everything. It still feels super good if the headshot hits :D
Im confused all you said for the AKM was that it has lots of ammo? Well no shit it does lol. Reading off one stat a gun has is not a tip. Are there any tips for that gun or not? Im an AKM main btw.
Accidentally said deflect instead of block for the riot shield - in case anyone is confused, no, the riot shield does not reflect damage. Only the dual blades can do this
Deflect was actually used correctly. The Dual Blades *Reflect* bullets. The shield blocks bullets but deflect is a synonym in this case as you are stopping the bullets momentum either way.
They took away bullet deflect
When you find a youtuber for the finals that isnt clickbaiting every video. ❤🎉❤🎉
who is?
So basically everyone who isn't jackfrags?
0 DOLLAR FINALS TIPS??? THE ECONOMY WILL SUFFER!
Great vid man, I'll try the sword dash tech later
Someone’s gotta tell me what all these $0 jokes are cause I’m outta the loop 😂
If you know who Ottr is, apparently he tried to sell The Finals tips on Patreon and people didn't really like that
Damn I’m gonna cause a market crash ig, that’s hilarious
@@silverwoomy0he literally quit the finals 😂
@@ChristianGlass-g3i just today, yeah
For the throwing knives, you can alt fire and then immediately cloak and it’ll keep you cloaked throughout the animation and even as you throw. It’s been broken for so long and I cannot believe it’s not fixed yet!
Good tip for anyone using the hammer. If you slide as you swing you can get a boost of sudden movement and potential catch up to other classes
another tip with throwing knifes
Theres a random bloom on the first shot ONLY and ONLY while sprinting (main fire)
so if you want your main fire to be 100% accurate on the first throw, let go of sprint first.
Also it has 2x headshot multiplier which means you can one burst a light.
Yeah 1 headshot plus 1 body shot kills lights with a single left click @@zsideswapper6718
@@zsideswapper6718it’s got a 1.5x headshot multiplier but it can still kill a light in one burst
@@lukaslilley9917 If it did have 1.5:
- Each knife deal 40 dmg
- They'd deal 60 which means one burst would deal 120.
So yeah it does have 2x headshot.
@@zsideswapper6718 each knife does 60 damage with the secondary fire doing 140 damage
Hammer Tips to Kill Enemies:
L - Heavy Swing or Light Swing + Quick Melee
M - H + L or L + QM + L
H - H + H or H + L + QM or L + L + L + QM
If you rotate the other way with dagger you can avoid your hit getting potentially eaten due to bad timing
3:50 this is not counter strafing, it's called anti mirroring. Mirroring is when you match movement direction with the enemy to make it easier to aim, anti mirroring is when youdo the opposite. It results in having to move your crosshair more, which makes aim smoothing more effective
erm actuly i don’t think theres a difference 🧐
edit: apart from the names
@@Elfsta_2 aim smoothing makes your recoil less aggressive when moving your mouse sideways. When you mirror movement, you are doing that less, since your movement is doing most of the sideways adjustments for you. When you anti mirror, you traditionally make the sideways movements longer for you and your opponent, making you harder to hit, but it also has the effect of making aim smoothing kick in at distances it otherwise wouldn't
counter strafing is a term from counter strike, it lets you stop moving faster by tapping the opposite movement direction right after letting go of the movement key, it has nothing to do with the finals, mixing and matching already in use terms when theres a better one is pointless and confusing
@@neonoir__ Intriguing
i forgot my valorant knowledge
Learned counter staffing from apex. It's exactly what he say it is, just strafe the opposite direction from the enemy and move your mouse more
sword right click won't lunge if you jump
ks-23 reload is faster from an empty mag
1887 will a have reload cancel shooting if you start a reload from an empter mag
you can invis during the throwing knives right click animation and be invisible while you throw it
hiding behind a barricade with the hammer is an easy way to bait people to come to you
CL40 is best paired with demateralizer because being able to have instant high ground or remove the floor under your enemy makes the weapon much better.
if you don't have time to reload your SA1216, most of the time it's better to simply shoot a round to go to the next 4 round burst before your next engagement
6:23 "Backstab no matter which way you're facing"
Oh god it's TF2 all over again
As a Heavy - Grenade Launcher main I can confirm that you're having the most fun when running the Charge ability. Two impacts from it can kill a light!
The RPG is a great tool to have both in general and to help cover range in this build.
You can also exploit the projectile behaviour of the grenade launcher and fire into rooms or areas where your opponents are while not needing line of sight unlike the other guns. This also means you do great at indoors, since there's less of a safe zone for the opponents to avoid the blast radius of the grenade with.
I go even greedier with my kills and run a double mine set-up, trading hard defense for raw damage potential. For a more balanced setup, though, I'd recommend a defensive ability over double mines. Your teammates will also probably appreciate you more if you do so.
i see a lot of people call the knife alt fire bad, but its so good! its mainly useful for opening fights but can also be good for hitting people as soon as they turn a corner, or as soon as you turn a corner
I just realized if you play spy in TF2 you can apply a lot of the same tricks. The backstab hotbox also seems to work the same way except without face stabs I think
@ I was referring to the throwing knives, but you’re right
it doesn’t help the backstab hitbox being huge
people who use dagger + dash are scary
This was really helpful. Love seeing your videos
With the nerf to APS Turrets, MGL32 and CL-40 actually is better against them since they can deplete the APS health with 3 shots, letting you throw your grenades afterwards for extra damage
This is true, but when you are in a 1v1 duel and are not able to damage someone because they are standing in an APS, it can be pretty bad. so the data reshaper really helps!
Bro mgl is actually goaded
super helpful and straight to the point, easy to understand vid, it's awesome! and the Xenoblade music caught me so off guard i LOVE it!!
Wow I was expecting tips that everybody knows already but this was actually very helpful. Liked and subscribed!
New subscriber here, great videos legend keep it up! 🙌
just some additional tips, for your primary fire on keybind settings, u can use mouse scroll down or up for the alternate key, i recently using mouse scrolldown
its very effective for weapons like v9s, famas, 93r, and lh1, so ur hands is not too stressed because of keep tapping your left click button
P.S : OH YEAH IT WILL MAKES ESPECIALLY V9S AT THE MAXIMUM FIRE SPEED 😎
Thank you, I love this video, the tips were great and what’s funny is I kinda was already doing some of these even before this video
Im so glad i subscribed to your channel dude, you've helped my gameplay a ton and im still getting better, thats a bunch for the tips!
For sword, your velocity from when you start will always be the same when you end, meaning you always dash or hit some sort of speed boast before releasing your lunge.
For dagger, always use dash with vanishing bomb, you get all the benefits of cloak but you still can choose a different special.
For the cl-40, because it does bursts of damage and reloads bullets one at a time, if you are ever caught in a close encounter, try peaking around a wall when your enemy pushes you, and try to hide or dance around a wall to try and reload as much ammo as you can while your enemy chases you
Something that wasn’t mentioned is that the China Lake can break the same things other explosives can, you just need to fire like 8 shots at a wall to knock it down. Not super helpful in engagements but if you want to drop the objective or breach a wall with it you can which is very nice as a medium
Combo for light double shotgun: stun gun, close your distance with dash, take first shot, slide sideways, then take the last on to the side/back.
Great video!
Will say tough, the timing is a little funny. Played Finals with a rando bloke called Ronin yesterday, two games in a row. And now Im getting The Finals content from Ronin.
The world works in mysterious ways ;).
For the lewis gun I'd suggest keeping bursts to 5 bullets. recoil reset is near instant and those 5 bullets have very little recoil
Revolver has a crazy tight accuracy from crouch hip fire. You’ll notice the gun tilts lightly.
love the video! also love the xenoblade 1 music in the background :)))
A minor tip for the KS23.
If you use the winch with this gun, you can very reliable use the winch to finish enemies. Because you deal exactly 100 damage with the gun, a winch and melee can take out the remaining 50.
It was quite good in terminal attack
this is the perfect youtube video ever
damn… you’ve unlocked my new potential now thanks
After watching this video I want to re-try every weapon in the game. These are great tips.
tip for heavy GL try to play either a floor below or above someone in buildings bc grenade arms itself after 1 bounce so hitting the floor below someone itll det on the ceiling, bouncing on the ceiling will make it det on the floor
the cl-40 is incredibly good at pushing buttons
Dagger backstab area forgiving, yes. Easy, NO. Not saying it's impossible but take it from a t6 there will be TONS of scenarios where what you think should have backstabed doesn't and you get beamed by 2 turrets and 3 aks(end result may vary.) But, one tip for model and double barrel(I'm not sure about auto shotgun) is that ads does not give better recoil or spread.
Dagger is a lot of fun when you pair it with a medium jump pad and to some cool tricks stabs lol, idk how practical it is but it’s fun
banger video bruh
Good shit bro! Keep it up.
Well I know one trick that I was using back in season 1: using cloak right after alt attack on trowing knifes will not break your invisibility and will allow to stay invisible both during the prepare of the throw and after it😊
I learned a few things. Thanks brother!!
Another mgl tip: against hammer heavies, firing straight down while running os a good way to get some chip damage in
Did you use to be a apex fan? BTW I love your video, it helped me with some guns I've been struggling with like the Lewis gun
I did, I might start doing some vids on it again when the new map comes out but for now I’m taking a little break
@@ronin_fps nice, I used to be a apex fan before season 15 happened. I switched to cod and than I switched to finals. I wish I could come back to apex but ea and the devs are ruining it
You WILL buy the $20 battlepass and $360 heirloom and you WILL enjoy them
LH1 is a monster when used correctly. I eliminated a heavy that was stealing my cache in less than half a second, despite the fact that it was being healed by a medium at the time
PS: If you take your enemies by surprise, you can basically defeat the entire team in about a second. i won a round in a tournament when my allies had already left the game, defeating the whole team in a solo.
The flame thrower does Tick damage so if you get your opponent down to maybe 1.5 or 2 bars of health, it should kill
Wait thats wild you were just in my power shift game like twice yesterday using that bamboo spear
I do be goofin off in there sometimes :D
@@ronin_fps I actually I was in that exact game during that spear clip thats a funny coincidence
Nice video
Holy shit the knifes backstab is just tf2 spy
1:11 ''Here's an example of me burst firing the weapon at long ranges''
>Shows a clip at 15 meters
Erm actually it’s 25 🤓
But in actuality it’s fairly long range in terms of lmg recoil and damage dropoff which was mainly what I was getting at
Amazing data
thanks for ur tips, im a good player and u taught me things ! btw u think this season m60 are better than lewis or not ?
I think the Lewis is still better for the top % of players, but the m60 will be better for the large majority of people simply because it has much better ease of use
Mmmm very good info.
What about the pike that’s my main what tips do you have for that
A) Thank you!
B) Does the Recurve Bow do the same damage regardless if quick shot or fully charged up?
C) As someone who hates the forgiving backstab of dagger, how to counter it?
D) 1887, any tip on reload-interrupt? Sometimes you're caught reloading and that damn 1 second it takes for you to get through the animation costs your life. My only method is a quick to and from another weapon.
1. It does less damage the less time you draw the bow, but does not have damage dropoff so your arrow will do the same damage across any range.
2. Positioning. Place yourself in hard to get areas and places where you normally take long range engagements. It’s not guaranteed to work, but it really raises your chances. Other than that just jumping around with unpredictable movement can mess them up sometimes (also explosive mines)
3. Unfortunately I don’t know a whole ton about that at this time, but if I do I’ll put it in a future vid, the weapon quick swap is what I do as well
bro your so underrated
Great one
3:22
But what if I can’t hit my shots and therefore need as many possible bullets to shoot with
good shit bro!
new subscriber, me. this channel is so cool and i only saw one video
4:17 problem, shouldn't be this way
Also, model 87 packs a punch even at range against lights for some reason
Nice video bud
Thanks ❤
Where do I depisit my $23? Jokes aside great tips! Gonna be able to use a lot of these
Even tho I watched the video for all the info, I'm still cooked😭
Thats the shit i needed to know
amazing vid
Heeeeeeeey where you on yesterday around 8pm ?! I seen a ronin in one of my matchs
probably just a common name but still would be hell of coincidence xD
Unfortunately I was not 😔
@@ronin_fps :< dang, i was almost famous! :p
Counter point to the AK. Ive got dog water aim and use a whole mag per person. If I am miraculously getting a kill before the end of the mag, I should reload just incase
Thanks
There's a extra tip for the riot shield. Don't start playing it. Main something else.
Also, quick, but useful tips for everything
Flamethrower goes better with pyro mines.
what is burstfiring mean? it means take few time during shooting?
Is stun gun still worth it in terminal or cashout after hard nerf of being able to ads,crouch and use abilities?
Definitely, you still have a mostly stationary target, and if they have melee weapons they’re pretty much dead. Also really good at stopping cahsouts, I rarely take it off when playing light. You just have to be slightly more careful than before
I always pair the Goo nade whenever I run dual blades or shield, this can trap enemies, slowing them down for easier kills.
W video
You can extend hammer's alt fire distance simply by sliding when character holds it the highest
What is “alt fire” in this case referring to?
That would be right click if you are on pc, and whatever aiming is for controller (I assume LT)
Tip from me - Total Light Class Death. Smash lights, hip throw lights into woodchippers, curbstomp lights, mog lights, pipe bomb lights mailboxes, troll lights, bully lights
Can you make a video on how to counter melee weapon pls
Gimme back sniper hitscan
thanks
6:37 you can't do that pn controller (except if you use claw)
I think it’s also possible if you have a controller with back paddles/triggers, right?
@@ronin_fps Ohh yeah i forgot about those🤔 It will work if you put the ability to a back trigger.
W
#buff93R
Easy sub
behind the mask?
Wait riot shield deflects bullets now
Yessir
@@ronin_fps my time has come- 3 whole riot shield users
It doesn't - it only blocks them
Oh I see what he was saying yeah it only blocks them mb
@@ronin_fpsCURSE YOU, RIOT SHIELD USERS WILL ONE DAY RISE UP AND BECOME RELEVANT
probably after gta 6 release
is this outdated?
I think most of the stuff in here should still be relevant
This style of thumbnail makes me think that ur video was another content creator
Ottr?
What about the akimbo guns for the Heavy class?
This video was made a while ago so they weren’t out yet, but my best advice for these is to aim for the head as often as possible, the body shot dps isn’t great compared to other heavy weapons but it has insane headshot dps that outclasses everything else
@@ronin_fps Thanks for the respond! I felt like that they were super inconsistent, but the body dps says everything. It still feels super good if the headshot hits :D
Cloak is useless against any ok competiton . Dash is the best ability for ligjt by a country mile
Im confused all you said for the AKM was that it has lots of ammo? Well no shit it does lol. Reading off one stat a gun has is not a tip. Are there any tips for that gun or not? Im an AKM main btw.
my tip : be better
I am a top player with a shotgun on easy, add me as a friend I want to play with you and get the emerald rank
:D
u don't deflect with shield, wtf u on about?
Meant to say block
If you weren’t a fuckin idiot you’d know he meant block
Dual Blades tip: Don't use dual blades.
“The akm has one of the largest magazine sizes in the game for assault rifles” oh really?