Bigger mercury engines only have one big ram as the til and trim. I’ve only ever had these engines, and didn’t even know other engines like this Yamaha in the video had rams for trim and separate for tilt. Wouldn’t they have separate controls for each?
Never leave the engine resting on the service bracket continuously, it puts too much stress on the drive. They sell a chrome tube that slips over the trim ram rods, rest the engine on that instead.
No doubt I thought it was done once it was making all that racket.....thought the weight of the outboard helped push those rams in.....the stuff we learn on the daily
@@pickledcottoncandy I was looking for one comment by someone like you who could speak with confidence. The reason is, I was wondering what kind of negative pressure is being placed on the main ram when he locked the out drive up, but continued push the down switch.
@@Joseph-wp2ry there is a pressure relief valve, so no harm is done. Same I'd you keep trimming after the engine is all the way down, it won't hurt anything because it relieves the pressure.
Another good tip is to place one of those foam style beer Koozies over the trim motor housing if it not a plastic housing also apply some grease on it before covering. My commercial boat sits on the saltwater inter coastal in Florida 9 months a year and is still on the same trim motor that is 14 years old. Yamaha of course
The rams are more than likely 316 stainless. Not likely to have any issues other than dirt but if you're leaving your boat that long without use, you probably shouldn't have one.
I’m an outboard mechanic. This IS NOT a good idea! Damage to your outboard will occur. Best to lower your engine while in water so the secondaries are retracted into their housings.
He'll be your friend and work on your boat for about $250/Hr., but if you are from New York, New Jersey or Boston he will give you a deal and charge you only $550.00/Hr.
This guy should be making shorts on how to get air out of your power trim system and then make another short on how to fill your power trim. Because he needs to do both! His pump is screaming for help!!
Love your channel. There are no videos on the internet showing someone replacing the hub on a Suzuki Water Grip prop. You're supposed to be able to do it on the water.
Yamah makes a specific tool for that called Yamaha ram tilt transom saver for that very reason, works great for towing as well it is a little spendy tho. 😎🤙🏽🙏🏽
@@ellsworth1984 I’m afraid you 1000% missed the concept behind this one. You’re correct about the motor lock. You likely don’t have much business on a boat or certain aren’t very familiar with your rig if you don’t know about the lock. However that is absolutely NOT what this clip is about nor a reflection of my response. Watch it again. This tip showed you that if you continue down on your trim it will retract your lower trim rams, the idea keeping them protected from the elements while the boat is not in use. It’s a really good tip and I’ve been on the water for nearly 40 years and have never seen this. Hope it serves you well.
Check your manual first. My 2 stroke mercury says specific in the manual in big bold letters NOT to drive with that kick stand supporting the motor. Not sure why but I’ll trust the manual.
Need help brotha! My engine trim and tilt stopped working. It was slowly leaking fluid the end last season and I would fill again and be fine. I put away for the winter motor trimmed all way down. What do I do? Is there a screw on the side to Manually put the engine up or down? 2004 200hp yamaha ox66
Release pressure then use a forklift with strap to lift the engine up. Lock it in the UP position. Then add ATF or Trim fluid into reservoir. Find out where leak is. Probably from piston end caps. Replace seals. You'll need a Spanner tool to remove the caps. There's a few videos on here that show how to do this.
About the seats....it depends on what's on them ....the seats are plastic so use some 100percent bleach and a good stiff brittle brush then rinse and repeat with strong soap and bleach solution....
Because the trim is meant to trim the engine down hydraulically. If you lock the engine in place and force the down button do you think all the internals just take a break???? Lol now they’re working even harder to bring the engine down but they will never accomplish it. You’ll end up breaking parts like seals and what not
Get q boat lift or pull the boat out and store on the trailer with a transom saver bar. I would not want all that weight sitting like that with waves coming through the marina on a busy day holiday weekend that's stressing the transom if it be in the water or on a lift the motor straight down is the best for the boat
I have a brand new Suzuki the dealer first think he told me was never do that you will destroy your tilt. Do what you want but I will not be trying this
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You must repair the Boat motors of the idiots that actually attempt to do this 🤣
Genuine question. Why is it so bad to do this?
Some engines, if you keep trimming down om the kickstand you will break it. Merc ams for example
Bend the prop and it starts to chew on the side of the Merc ram
Bigger mercury engines only have one big ram as the til and trim. I’ve only ever had these engines, and didn’t even know other engines like this Yamaha in the video had rams for trim and separate for tilt. Wouldn’t they have separate controls for each?
@@00ninja00 No its the same motor, theres a pressure valve for the two sets of rams. So its doesnt really matter
Hello I am yamaha/mercury technician. Those tabs are for working on the trim to lock it in place when a ram is removed. They will break off
that’s why you open the emergency trim release screw than drop the rams lol
Never leave the engine resting on the service bracket continuously, it puts too much stress on the drive. They sell a chrome tube that slips over the trim ram rods, rest the engine on that instead.
Keep those rams coated with a light film of proper grease as well!
the wiper would clean it off
Burns out the motor leave all alone mercurys are junk now
@@tcap7917
It is recommended by Yamaha
60 years old and learn something new every day.
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I will be 61 next month🤣🤣🤣
As long as I’ve been around boats, and I’ve never once considered that as an option. Great idea and thanks.
No doubt I thought it was done once it was making all that racket.....thought the weight of the outboard helped push those rams in.....the stuff we learn on the daily
Me too never thought about. That Guinness ideal
I'm a certified yamaha and mercury mechanic. They actually tell you to do this at school. Doesn't hurt a thing.
@@pickledcottoncandy I was looking for one comment by someone like you who could speak with confidence. The reason is, I was wondering what kind of negative pressure is being placed on the main ram when he locked the out drive up, but continued push the down switch.
@@Joseph-wp2ry there is a pressure relief valve, so no harm is done. Same I'd you keep trimming after the engine is all the way down, it won't hurt anything because it relieves the pressure.
Another good tip is to place one of those foam style beer Koozies over the trim motor housing if it not a plastic housing also apply some grease on it before covering. My commercial boat sits on the saltwater inter coastal in Florida 9 months a year and is still on the same trim motor that is 14 years old.
Yamaha of course
DO NOT use that latch to hold motor up while trailering it’ll bust that latch right off its only for maintenance
understated comment right here.
It is literally in the manual to do that.
For real? I’ve been making that mistake for a bit now haha.
Lol been doing this for 7 years on my 130 2 stroke Saltwater yam. Super strong.
Johnson manual calls that the trailering support for 1993 j60
We had a 94 Yamaha 150 that had that lock, that was the standard procedure. The tilt piston would also retract, not just the trim pistons.
Wow... hes using the locking lever as it was designed to be used regular Einstein
The rams are more than likely 316 stainless. Not likely to have any issues other than dirt but if you're leaving your boat that long without use, you probably shouldn't have one.
My thoughts exactly
That's the best thing I heard this year! Thank you!
I’m an outboard mechanic. This IS NOT a good idea! Damage to your outboard will occur. Best to lower your engine while in water so the secondaries are retracted into their housings.
Why would I lower the engine into the water? Will be covered with Barnacles in a week
This is fantastic I never even knew they would do that!! Thanks 😀👍
FYI that support bracket is for maintenance and storage, not for transport, like most people use it..
I like this guy. He is very helpful and honest
He'll be your friend and work on your boat for about $250/Hr., but if you are from New York, New Jersey or Boston he will give you a deal and charge you only $550.00/Hr.
This guy should be making shorts on how to get air out of your power trim system and then make another short on how to fill your power trim. Because he needs to do both! His pump is screaming for help!!
Love your channel. There are no videos on the internet showing someone replacing the hub on a Suzuki Water Grip prop. You're supposed to be able to do it on the water.
Keep the rods lubed, those kick stands are just a backup and is soft af, they'll snap through the first pothole
Yamah makes a specific tool for that called Yamaha ram tilt transom saver for that very reason, works great for towing as well it is a little spendy tho. 😎🤙🏽🙏🏽
The kickstand is only meant for motor maintenance only.
not ment to hold the motor weight for long period of time not like a transom saver bar
Unreal man…. Had no idea. Best boat channel on the internet!
Thank you!
If you didn't know there was a locking lever on your outdrive, you shouldn't be boating... No offense intended but every captain should know that
@@ellsworth1984 I’m afraid you 1000% missed the concept behind this one. You’re correct about the motor lock. You likely don’t have much business on a boat or certain aren’t very familiar with your rig if you don’t know about the lock. However that is absolutely NOT what this clip is about nor a reflection of my response. Watch it again. This tip showed you that if you continue down on your trim it will retract your lower trim rams, the idea keeping them protected from the elements while the boat is not in use. It’s a really good tip and I’ve been on the water for nearly 40 years and have never seen this. Hope it serves you well.
Check your manual first. My 2 stroke mercury says specific in the manual in big bold letters NOT to drive with that kick stand supporting the motor. Not sure why but I’ll trust the manual.
Just curious. How would those get damaged in with boat in water?
Do you think that will stop electrolysis?
Great knowledge great video. 📡👽🇺🇸 RUN!!!
They make a spray, a spray that helps the seals and protects the metal
Is there a way to lower those to rams in manually? I know how to do the main ram with the screw, but not those two.
Just wondering, have you done a review of under water stern flood lights yet?
i put 1 of those round green lites on my transum on my 20ft bay boat and it aluminates really well so i can see whats around the motor and behind me..
Lubricate the shaft clean with a rag too
If you want stress cracks in your fiberglass boat transom do whatvhe yes
Not on mercy, don't do this on merc integral trims, blows the valves internally. This applies to omc and yamaha
Does this work on mercury optimax also ? Looks like a yamaha in the video..
That locking lever is on every single outdrive.. And if you you didn't know it was there or what it's for you shouldn't be a captain
That locking lever is on every single outdrive if you don't know that you shouldn't be a captain
Need help brotha! My engine trim and tilt stopped working. It was slowly leaking fluid the end last season and I would fill again and be fine. I put away for the winter motor trimmed all way down. What do I do? Is there a screw on the side to Manually put the engine up or down? 2004 200hp yamaha ox66
Release pressure then use a forklift with strap to lift the engine up. Lock it in the UP position. Then add ATF or Trim fluid into reservoir. Find out where leak is. Probably from piston end caps. Replace seals. You'll need a Spanner tool to remove the caps. There's a few videos on here that show how to do this.
Raises the pressure inside of the rams and can damage the seals though.
Great idea, never thought about that.
All he is doing is using the lock lever like it is designed to be used it's not rocket science hes not Einstein
I seen that bend the kickstands before.
Trying to save a nickel by burning a hundred dollar bill.
My yamaha trims pistons don’t go down when i put the lock , what is causing that, ? My other engine pistons go down good.
That work on Poptimax too?
Does this work on older Mercury?
Isent that going to put pressure on the trim jack seals causing them to leak
Put a dab of grease around top of each ram and run them down. The grease will get pushed up and protect the last few mm around the seal
Your KILLING the center ram
It’s a BOAT… bust out another thousand…. Ain’t gonna matter
What about the main ram what's protecting that
Nothing :( just make sure you spray it off with fresh water after you use the boat :)
It is called a tilt lock and info comes with the motor
just replaced a warranty trim ram on a mercury 150. i don't recommend it. take care of them because they are a *bad word* to change😂
Very cool !
Great tip...but with my forgetfulness...i'd forget and wonder WTF is wrong when it wont trim down...😂😂😂
Lol :) yup, really just a trick to show people you can suck them in if you wanted to :)
About the seats....it depends on what's on them ....the seats are plastic so use some 100percent bleach and a good stiff brittle brush then rinse and repeat with strong soap and bleach solution....
You should always suck those in when the boat is parked whether in the water or not. Especially when trailering, just to keep the engine from bouncing
How does sucking them in reduce bouncing? If anything it creates More Travel
Just watched a video explaining not to do this lol
Why? Please provide the link. Thanks.
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Because the trim is meant to trim the engine down hydraulically. If you lock the engine in place and force the down button do you think all the internals just take a break???? Lol now they’re working even harder to bring the engine down but they will never accomplish it. You’ll end up breaking parts like seals and what not
@@Carlos-lh3bq thanks for the reply. It’s good to know.
@Carlos-lh3bq that makes zero sense bc there is no weight on them so they aren't trying to do anything. You have no understanding of mechanics.
Thats a lot of weight on that little kick stand.
good idea but it puts a lot of stress on your Transum
Maybe if you want oil sitting in your cylinders. Those are only meant for servicing your hydraulics.
If you want to protect your power trim let the engine all the way down for storage
Learned something new. Thank you
My outboard has a lot of downward force. I’ve tried this and my kickstand almost broke off.
Apparently this is a good way to mess up your shaft
Does look like he uses his shaft
Get q boat lift or pull the boat out and store on the trailer with a transom saver bar. I would not want all that weight sitting like that with waves coming through the marina on a busy day holiday weekend that's stressing the transom if it be in the water or on a lift the motor straight down is the best for the boat
What are you orotecting them from, theyre chromium or whatever and arent susceptible to electrolysis
If I leave my boat in the water it'll sink. 😂
I did not know that awesome
Good point. About a 2 grand part.....
Yeah you don't want those rams to corrode or it causes all kinds of problems that aren't cheap to fix.
You hit a big pot hole and that kickstand kicks out and your motor hits the pavement!!! Keep your rams extended plus kickstand.
Definitely don't haul it with that little kick stand down that kick stand is made for maintenance not to haul your boat around on the stand
Never left mine in the water 22 years
Some outboards, yes. Some outboards, no
Thought that was what youre supposed to do. Dad always had me put the outboard on a stand and take all the weight off the actual components
Love it thanks
I have a brand new Suzuki the dealer first think he told me was never do that you will destroy your tilt. Do what you want but I will not be trying this
All my kickstand does is scratch the paint, holds nothing.
Its use less , if u still press tha trim button with lock on it will damage the trim lock
Let's see how long it will last your kickstand 😂
Thanks Einstein
mind is blown. had no idea
I just rent the boat 😊
That's unnecessary those are stainless steel shafts there made to be in the water
Rams doing what? Protecting against what?
My luck I'd get the boat all loaded up with the family and the rams would be jamed or something
Great information 👍.
nice tip thanks
And never travel with the service latch in that position.
Thank you
My wife also knows where my button is
We gonna ignore those metal flakes flying off?
What’s sad is
Typical boat owner doesn’t know this
Cool trick, but I have a stern drive bravo 1
Protect them from what??? A hurricane ripping your boat outta the water?….
Ive only knew this now😂☝🏻
Someone’s gonna ruin their motor 😂
what about the third one, da
oh man not this clown again😂😂😂. thats how you break stuff.
Poor Yami
It’s a biblical Idea
Not All Outbounds. 😅😅
Yea that’s not a kickstand 😅
You can really hear that trim motor hating life. Do not do this.
I am pretty sure that wont work on my yamaha 115