NEW UPDATED TIER LIST for PATCH 14.7 - League of Legends
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0:00 - Introduction
1:00 - Top Changes
1:35 - Top Tier List
2:41 - Jungle Changes
4:26 - Jungle Tier List
5:37 - Mid Changes
6:57 - Mid Tier List
7:22 - ADC Tier List
8:27 - Support Changes
8:59 - Support Tier List
10:06 - SkillCapped & Outro
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yesterday, i played ranked on jg against skarner, he had 10/0 in 10 min, and made quadrakill before 10 min. he lost the game, kayn is broken.
Sounds like an average platin soloq Tbh
Permaban for life, hate that champ. No one can win 1v1 against rhast even if insanely ahead.
@@mikadeksjur653 i was playing blue
@@georg2900 XD
@@cyrus1586 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Skarner’s Q is definitely clunky to use, but I’ve found that he seems to be designed with using it pre-E. I also think that using Q1 before R is slept on, because it immediately throws the rock to slow targets, making them easier to impale
can also use w for the slow into r
if you press w and then q in the right time you can animation cancle the rock pick up animation :) skarner is rly good
Everyone talking about Q clunk delay, but no one gonna talk about how Skaner now having 2 suppression that last a very long time AND move you. He so overload with cc that paring him with a high damage champion with a decent slow can create a sure kill unescapable cc chain
The New skarner is op when matched with camille, sett or even Yasuo, imagine beeing a top laner and get full 8 seconds immobile under a tower
He honestly has less cc than old skarner what?
@@videosyouweresearchingfor6126 Yep.
I think he can move people at a lot more distance plus with his ult hitting multiple targets he’s a lot better for the team
Well damn, i knew i heard Polk's voice somewhere when playing FF7 Intergrade/Rebirth.
Love to see Zyra on the jungle Tier list!
His q feels good in the jg but during a team fight I often find it much harder to use and im often confused if i picked it up or not and if i have thrown it yet
There is a few problems with skarner, the first one is how long the E's cd is also in my opinion it should increse distance with each new rank.
Build path is hearthsteel for sure, however there is no clear rune set up besides aftershock and phase rush it just doesn't feel strong using one of these.
Now q's have descent damage and cd but staying inmobile while picking it feels a bit clunky, I found myself enemies getting away because q initial casting time is long.
Finally I really feel skarner could be more successful in top lane than jg.
I feel like monster modifiers should only apply if the champion has a jungle item/enhanced Smite.
As for Nami, it's as if someone that plays Nami easily called that the W % modifier was a massive buff for her that meant way more than the nerfs.
Skarner's hotfix buff are good, his main issue really was clearspeed as a jungler. I don't think his mechanics are necessarily bad, numbers just need tweaks. He works decently well in the toplane because of that atm.
I feel when you press q as skarner by the time you pull up the rock they have already ran. I’d like to see seemless rock pickup while moving and maybe locking the champ on recast. Personally I’d like to see a cdr buff to the q aswell; even 1 second would feel really nice. Other than that the champ is aight, not really the type of champ i play anyways.
Good info, been wondering why im seeing more janna's when i thought it was such a forgotten champ.
Skarner’s run down feels really bad. If you have to use the Q a second time in a fight, it stops you and lets an enemy get to a wall and flash away.
He feels super squishy early too, I feel like his W needs a larger shield to be able to skirmish better.
ur on crack
As a Panth main, Skarner at top lane feels kinda similar. His play style is poking and short trading, W AoE is surprisingly big so he can poke quite a bit. In top, Doran's ring with W max is good, then going with Tear on your first back. Standardized, you go build tank items.
Where's Skarner Top?
I have in two accounts 80% win rate with Skarner top
probably waiting for his wr to stabilize to understand his position, rn no one rly knows what he does or how good he is
Yes Skarner top is a nightmare to play against.
What do you expect from a person who gets his knowledge mainly from Twitter and doesn't know much about the game.... xD
@@SotheAlbionny first impression was that he hits hard and gets really tanky but he didnt feel like a nightmare when you know how he moves when he tries to wall you its like side stepping a faster nunu ball
Would you go for Bami Cinder before going heartsteel on Skarner?
First day of the rework, two people have left the game and the enemy forfeited, that was super sad
Hob might work really well with them if you want to get the queue off faster
I love new skarner, he's so funny to play
But I think picking up a rock should scale with its attack speed
I've played a lot of Skarner the last few days and his kit is actually just fine it's more that he can't do much damage with auto attacks so duelist junglers like Briar will always kill him
And they will even make a point of doing so early so you can never scale
I use to have so much fun with Skarner when he was first initially released back in the day. He has been reworked over and over into the dirt. R.I.P. Skarner...
Just wondering, what kind of measures do you use to rank each individual heroes up. I do understand for the said heroes that are talked about in this patch, but as a newbie, Idrk how or why other heroes are in those rank. Thanks!!
The following are guesses, but I think I am quite accurate: they use winrate, playrate and banrate mainly. The higher they are, the stronger the champ probably is. They also look at patch notes for nerfs and buffs, they look at games in different elos, and also pro games.
And also they are called champions in league, not heroes :)
qq, what does the low elo under overpowered stands for? are these champs better or worse in low elo?
I'm feeling great with Skarner top, he has an impressive amount of damage and he's incredibly tanky, I've been having fun with him
Yeah I was super hyped for the skarner rework but he just feels really clunky. I think he has potential but needs a few changes
How come Fizz was added into the low elo top picks for Mid lane? Would like to know why Malz was replaced with him.
As a skarner player, i shall speak about my experience and opinions on this champion. New skarner is pretty strong but is very clunky and with that slightly limited, i only today started experimenting so i will talk about the basic build i did so far (Iceborn > Sunfire/Unending Despair > Thornmail/Deadmans > Force of Nature/Warmogs Armor, and for boots its usualy Plated). Skarner has incredible jungle clear, especially from top (red, i believe) side. his ganks are amazing but they rely on your E a lot. Without it skarner is pretty slow on his own and even his CC and slows dont help that much. He seems to do well against ad assassins, especially early game, his early game overall is pretty solid, his Q always deals 15% max hp, the only problem for me is that you are rooted in place while picking up the rock, Riot should do what they did with W in PBE and allow us to move while picking it up. Speaking of his W, its a really simple yet nice ability, and i dont think it needs any changes. When it comes to his E tho, i can see why they made the start-up slow, but it doenst mean much when one hard CC can shutdown your entire engage/disengage tool, i think that start up should be faster, or speed should affect how fast you go from point A to point B without changing the overall traved distance. Lastly his ultimate, it also feels clunky in its own way + that "small" 0.75 wind-up feels very long and gives just enough time to escape, i am aware that this ability can provide insane value, just play with mf and pull three enemies in her ult, also absence of being able to turn around throws me off, but i guess its because im used to the old ultimate. Overall Skarner deserves the B tier, not because he has horrible stats, but because he feels clunky, can you imagine Lillia that has to stop every time she presses her Q? (Wait... her W exists)
Right now, skarner is the only person that can solo cc mundo through his initial passive for almost 5 seconds.
Mundo, whose champ strength is being able to just walk through cc. If that doesn't tell you Skarner cc is over tuned, then what does?
@@henrylin6537 nothing, because it isn't. avoid his e, which shouldn't be that tough because it's so slow, and he has zero hard cc. Ignoring his ult which is highly telegraphed, and can only hit 3 people. Even if the e does hit, it's completely single target so not that much value in a team fight other than stopping the dps. They should be unreachable anyway because they should have a support tanking it for them. If you think skarner is so bad just wait till you see what malphite, chogath, or nautilus can do hoooly. Skarners biggest strength is his harass that's about it rn. Also, qss? Oh, and as this guy said you can cc him in his e, so you can just completely disable his one normal hard cc ability,
i find skarners early game weakness really balances out the things he can do later game.. IE multi champ ults being pretty fking tanky
Skarner could be pick on top when some player pick Skarner i feel like not too good as well
Yes after 21 games of Skarner I have a 38% win rate with him. But he is so much fun to play
When I said that is mid Diana buff not just jungle... my most played champion and never played her in jungle
So the thing is....the e hitbox is just bullshit. Its one of the main reason that he is playable toplane cuz u can e towards ur tower without even be behind the enemy. But he is really fun to play overall. Toplane his much funny for me
I said this exact thing on PBE release about his Q feeling bad cause it stops you, but I got flamed for it. Now everyone is like “yeah ew gross”
Skarner is a bit on the weird side for me. He can be pretty suppressive and with conqueror can win some unexpected fights, but his clear is kind of inconsistent because of his Q locking him in place. I could finish a full clear anywhere from 3:20 to 3:40.
when is this patch coming out?
Skarner only need lowers mana cost on top, or 2% higher shield on w, others skills are balanced, q is good enough
The REAL best jungler for low elo: WARWICK.
Infinite sustain, great dueling ability, insane chasing potential, can solo dragon and voidgrubs without a single item, knows exactly where low hp enemies are on the map, his ultimate is a suppress. You don't need any other jungler until you hit Gold, and even in Gold, Warwick is STILL a strong pick.
What about Master Yi?
@@adham4687there is no way Yi is anywhere near as easy to use as WW. Warwick was intentionally designed to be one of the easiest junglers. He's incredibly good in Gold; it's how I got to plat without breaking a sweat.
tiamat into boots with predator for r ganks is how i climb
Idk, with a normal supp lucian, zeri, ezreal they are all S tier. Kogmaw is still turbo op, 1v9 with 3 items. You should make a tierlist for each elo, since zeri has like 90% pickrate in eune chall
what tier is Ahri in?
called it on Nami lolol. . .that was a legitimate buff 😂😂😂
Skarner is a top laner. His kit is ass for jung but god tier for top lane.
skarner prediction: right now its pretty strong cause he does too much dmg.
he will be op in real teamplay. he will be 50/50 in solo q.
then riot nerfs his dmg and he will be a pro-pick for teamcomps that cater his ult.
he will have below 50% in soloq.
change my mind
I tried Skarner top, because of a flash E combo where u drag ur opponent under tower if they come to close, I tried my own bruiser build but what i concluded is that skarner has not a good early short or long trade ability which makes the early laning phase stressful, and after black cleaver or for me the more preferred titan his short trades improve greatly
Koreans already see that. So they are using Comet and aply it with W so its a free trade and free "poke" damage xd.
Difference between smolder and skarner on release. Smolder actually has ridiculous late game power while skarner is still relatively a tank/damage sponge. Skarner needs buffs in places other than his q. I actually think his q needs nerfed.
Someone help me how to counter tahm kench as a support
Ive been playing skarner top and its absolutely busted, I havnt played a ton of games but I'm still 100% wr in ranked and like 82% wr in norms. Just watch out for a good olaf and mundo.
Skarner just feels very incomplete atm. He’s potential is extremely high and I do feel like he can be the best jungler in the game, but he’s q is very clunky and he’s e feels like it hasn’t compensated for the lane width increase similar to Illaoi tentacles
Giving skar a buff is wild he's strong asf in every game and ganks nonstop
The fact that nobody is buying titanic hydra on skarner first is just baffling. It feels like its almost entirely necessary
my poor ksante in the bottom of the tier list hahaha
Unironically, why is Skarner not in the top lane tier list.
Can skill cap make me get teammates that don’t Int 3 mins in the game
So tryndamere mid is removed?
one day we will see Shyvana rated above A tier above before her rework
Can we buff pantheon
Scarner on paper was way to strong with this ult but in game it seems not to work
He is a bit team reliant.
Only thing i dont agree on is ezrael B tier i mean his base damage on Q is just holarious if you pick conqueror you have Huge impact in Team fight if you pick Press the attack you Can Prop it in like 2 sec lvl 1 and its just Huge trading pattern but that is my opinion maybe i was never so wrong in my life idk
why is sett suddenly an S tier pick
Bro got a 52% wr ig
because they talked about it in their last video with sett going PTA and its having a higher win rate overall because it gives him more burst.
How does eclipse keep avoiding nerfs? It has been super strong all season and a key part of many champs that have faced nerfs recently (briar, Camille, etc). Seems like riot would pick up on this by now
Eclipse is also an extremely situational item... Basically it is useless when playing from behind and has a low impact when built as a second or third item
Where's Syndra support QwQ
Skarner feels extremely op and awesome... until everyone gets to around lvl 6-8, and hes suddenly almost useless, is kind of how my experience with playing and facing him has gone
Skarner top can be digusting if played right
Tryndamere mid is still quite viable due to many opponents selecting mages with easy-to-dodge crowd control abilities - this is ignoring his ridiculous split push potential plus his ability to use E over walls making him a constant roaming threat - yet he's absent from the mid tier list.
Why these Skaner top lane not exist in this video, Conet Skaner seem very op now
I have seen a lot of shen mid recently has anyone else
Zac is just that one champ thats everywhere. Top jung support
i don’t know what’s better: a new champ that’s too op so you have to ban it in every game or an old champ rework that seems useless so not worth picking
Zeri cant catch a break :((
to be honest rating blue and red Kayn would be like rating bruiser Aatrox and lethality Aatrox, not complaining tho
i realllyyy want them to bring back rell jungle
I played one for all vs swain...i did over 400k damage...yes definately buff skarner :)
7:04 fringe or “cringe” mid lane pick
Skarner rework is okay. I don't like that you stop to pick up rocks with q and I HATE that his ult cannot charge while moving so using it to chase enemies down now is not consistent.
skarner extremely high skill pick his e is op but if they see you its much worse, weird assasin type playstyle for a bruiser if ur looking to lock down the fed adc like old skarner
why is varus so low, he is amazing
surely they buff my boy k'sante soon right :')
Skarner feel more like a top champ now
Lux’s WR has actually dropped in the higher ranks, and theres only a very very slight increase in lower elos, saying she’s S tier is a bit of a stretch
Played him on support, agree he is kinda clunky
SETT S TIER???
What about ap kaisa
You made Shaco an S tier champ with out explaination from last tier list there he was A tier.
New Skarner is way too team-reliant for solo queue. His 1v1 is terrible without E up, and it's super easy to catch him early game with it on CD by simply invading his 2nd buff. His late game teamfight is amazing, but good luck making it that far without your team inting to the fed early game jungler who solo killed you multiple times in your jungle, while they sat in lanes farming minions.
His ganks are good if his laners are paying attention and the enemy lacks vision. Otherwise he lacks the damage to kill a full-heath target, even if he point blank stuns them against his turret, before they can flash/dash/ghost away. His E is super easy to juke by anyone with a dash or with vision, just like Nunu W.
Funny you put him above Sej because he's a worse version of her in every way.
And Ryze top?
I feel like an intern made the skarner rework. Its so bad
how is a b tier champ on the ban list for adc? that doesnt make any sense..
Neeko jgl is viable, I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on it. She is perfect to gank with
Where is skarner top?
Bruh skarner is already such a mana hungry champ in top and now they decreased mana growth and increased W cost 😢😢😢
They want him away from top sadly, but if u go comet max W with mana flow and tear can work
whty is kayle s tier?
Yes she is
Skarner top 14.8?
where is chogath on this tierlist he can be played jungle very easily and should be rated on here unless im just blind and dont see him
Skarner top going to be S ranked next patch. Was already busted, buffs only gonna make it stronger
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skarner mid being s tier but they dont show off meta picks : ._.
47 seconds ago my word I’m up to date
It’s a critical whammy: Aphelios and Zeri are demoted to lower tiers this time! Let’s relegate to easier ADCs for now!
Hwei is like s+++ even in mid elo about emerald, why are you guys ignoring him for so long?
Bros are not putting skarner on OP tier top lane, insane challenger guide guys x)
skarner top feels kinda weak, so what riot did is nerfing him, cool
shaco went up a rank. Why?