Super informative! Awesome breakdown and much appreciated for implementing this into the VESC app. Cant wait to see the King of the Hill action at your segment!
Awesome, an explenation like this followed by a 'how to config' vid will be soooo usefull to me and many new vesc users. Because of the Floatwheel and being able to choose from different tunes while riding a lot of the newbies like me were never forced into screwing around with settings. The downside of that is that learning about it goes slow. Most of the info buttons in Vesctool are still very hard to understand for me to be honest. Explanation videos like this followed by a config explanation will be amaaaazing!! Thanks!
This just gave me a thought for FM boards to have some sort of a remote tilt. Add friction to the tire. I have been doing this on my fender-less board by dragging my shoe on the tire to remove goat heads. I noticed the nose rising but didn't think much of it until now. Maybe something could be mounted up and foot activated, or maybe I just smoked too much.... Either way thanks for the solid info my dude!
It's been done on VESC boards, using an e-skate hand controller. Instead of using the thumb lever or wheel for acceleration/braking, it tells the board to put the nose up or down real-time. Supposedly once you get used to using it it's fairly easy/intuitive to do.
@glyphnosis I understand remote tilt perfectly well. Got any way to make it work on a FM controller? My idea to add drag(like the side of your shoe, or some contraption mounted next to the tire) so you can have a pseudo remote tilt without vesc.
Excellent videos thank you for doing them. I played with ATR starting with 1.0 finding I was running into hills. Eventually settled at 1.9 being good for me. Why do they say that I've heard several times 2.0 is the max ATR? I'm tempted to try 2.0...
I feel like atr had potential but it's not there yet. With the new float package there is a lot more to tune but with no manual it's kinda hard. Hope you do that video soon. 😊
I like to keep my atr right at the point where I can’t tell if it’s doing anything or not, but it’s giving me just enough help up hills. I don’t use atr down.
thank you for everything! but what about the bonks, or drops? Bonking is fine i guess cause it's so fast, but the landing... so if i understaand it correctly the free spin should give me a nose down landing. (that is why i don't use it, cranked it up in the skatepark but that's it) i wonder if it's possible to "turn if off" for every free spin. i mean that should be a really peak data to follow up or it doesn't do anything in the air but as soon as land it will act like i am on a hill and gonna drag the tail as in the FM? maybe that's the proof that we have ATR in FM boards? or that just comes from the speed.... maybe both, that's why it's so aggressive? i don't know i am lost :D
I've ordered an ADV2. I have no experience riding but from what you describe - it sounds like a proximity sensor (towards the ground) in the front of the board might be a good contribution to the calc?
Form pump track using the remote is best, remote is a good to override atr when you know it’s messing up because of nutty terrain. I do wish there is a button base tilt when hitting a preprogrammed button will tilt a preset board angle, that would make landing easier!
@@surfdadoit’s all in pursuit of faster times my friend. The fact that fm riders don’t have access to remote tilt isn’t my problem. I’m done pandering to fm and there regulations, were just trying to maximize what’s possible with these damn boards.
@@chasekasperowski8253understood but the remote is just such a huge advantage that it's like cheating and to me it just ruins the hands free feel of a Onewheel. Remote should be its own class for sure.
@@surfdado I can see that. Side note, I also haven’t been able to tune a board that can float/coast up steep hills quite like fm boards, so remote makes up for that.
@@chasekasperowski8253 I have the strong feeling your Float Config is pretty messed up that's why the standard tuning methods don't work as expected for you - but yes, a remote lets you compensate for a poor tune
@@chasekasperowski8253billet/CNC is the same right? The AV Box guys chose the wrong Aluminum. 7075 is stiffer/harder and more expensive but its thermal coefficient is the same as the cheap 5051 aluminum. The pubbox and the fungineers CNC box both use 6061 aluminum, which is the best you can easily get for an application like that.
Thanks a lot for the explanation, Now I finally know their difference, thank you dado for this awesome feature!
Super informative! Awesome breakdown and much appreciated for implementing this into the VESC app. Cant wait to see the King of the Hill action at your segment!
Its live: ridehermes.app/trails/1577 - a little easier than what's shown in this video, but still quite the challenge
thanks for these kind of videos, really clears things up
Awesome, an explenation like this followed by a 'how to config' vid will be soooo usefull to me and many new vesc users.
Because of the Floatwheel and being able to choose from different tunes while riding a lot of the newbies like me were never forced into screwing around with settings.
The downside of that is that learning about it goes slow.
Most of the info buttons in Vesctool are still very hard to understand for me to be honest.
Explanation videos like this followed by a config explanation will be amaaaazing!!
Thanks!
SEND IT!
This just gave me a thought for FM boards to have some sort of a remote tilt.
Add friction to the tire.
I have been doing this on my fender-less board by dragging my shoe on the tire to remove goat heads. I noticed the nose rising but didn't think much of it until now.
Maybe something could be mounted up and foot activated, or maybe I just smoked too much....
Either way thanks for the solid info my dude!
It's been done on VESC boards, using an e-skate hand controller. Instead of using the thumb lever or wheel for acceleration/braking, it tells the board to put the nose up or down real-time. Supposedly once you get used to using it it's fairly easy/intuitive to do.
@glyphnosis I understand remote tilt perfectly well. Got any way to make it work on a FM controller? My idea to add drag(like the side of your shoe, or some contraption mounted next to the tire) so you can have a pseudo remote tilt without vesc.
Thanks for the explanation. Looking forward to the next ATR settings video.
Excellent videos thank you for doing them. I played with ATR starting with 1.0 finding I was running into hills. Eventually settled at 1.9 being good for me. Why do they say that I've heard several times 2.0 is the max ATR? I'm tempted to try 2.0...
Dado Jeans are a vibe!! Thank you for your explanation!
lookin forward to the atr config video
Love your videos! Watched each one at least 3 times. Keep it up!
Wise words from Dado once again 🙏
Fresh cut. Looking good
I feel like atr had potential but it's not there yet. With the new float package there is a lot more to tune but with no manual it's kinda hard. Hope you do that video soon. 😊
I like to keep my atr right at the point where I can’t tell if it’s doing anything or not, but it’s giving me just enough help up hills. I don’t use atr down.
Once again, thanks for that class. Really enjoy going to school, er, I mean, riding w you sd.
Looking forward to the next video. Thats where i need help.
thank you for everything!
but what about the bonks, or drops? Bonking is fine i guess cause it's so fast, but the landing... so if i understaand it correctly the free spin should give me a nose down landing. (that is why i don't use it, cranked it up in the skatepark but that's it)
i wonder if it's possible to "turn if off" for every free spin. i mean that should be a really peak data to follow up
or it doesn't do anything in the air but as soon as land it will act like i am on a hill and gonna drag the tail as in the FM? maybe that's the proof that we have ATR in FM boards? or that just comes from the speed.... maybe both, that's why it's so aggressive?
i don't know i am lost :D
You’re overthinking it - ATR gets disabled during freespin
I've ordered an ADV2. I have no experience riding but from what you describe - it sounds like a proximity sensor (towards the ground) in the front of the board might be a good contribution to the calc?
that is so freakin Steep. ty much for the updated understanding 🏆
Great video! Thanks
Form pump track using the remote is best, remote is a good to override atr when you know it’s messing up because of nutty terrain. I do wish there is a button base tilt when hitting a preprogrammed button will tilt a preset board angle, that would make landing easier!
Remote is cheating imho - shouldn’t be allowed in racing, even open class
@@surfdadoit’s all in pursuit of faster times my friend. The fact that fm riders don’t have access to remote tilt isn’t my problem. I’m done pandering to fm and there regulations, were just trying to maximize what’s possible with these damn boards.
@@chasekasperowski8253understood but the remote is just such a huge advantage that it's like cheating and to me it just ruins the hands free feel of a Onewheel. Remote should be its own class for sure.
@@surfdado I can see that. Side note, I also haven’t been able to tune a board that can float/coast up steep hills quite like fm boards, so remote makes up for that.
@@chasekasperowski8253 I have the strong feeling your Float Config is pretty messed up that's why the standard tuning methods don't work as expected for you - but yes, a remote lets you compensate for a poor tune
Legend ❤
6:55 that scared me so much xD
haha Float Control alerts at your service 🤣
battery explode warning, jk no warning for that yet
You need an av box 😜 literally can’t get mine to overheat.
I have a pub box on the way for my next build. Should be even better…
Also, you might be underestimating this hill 😂
@@surfdado ha, I feel like I am 😆 that thing is monstrous.
@@surfdado hell yah. Are you getting a billet one? Why do you assume the cooling will be better?
@@chasekasperowski8253billet/CNC is the same right? The AV Box guys chose the wrong Aluminum. 7075 is stiffer/harder and more expensive but its thermal coefficient is the same as the cheap 5051 aluminum. The pubbox and the fungineers CNC box both use 6061 aluminum, which is the best you can easily get for an application like that.
Was I the only one who couldn’t stop looking at Dado’s shadow 🤣. I’m sorry I just couldn’t unsee! Thank you for the explanation!
Hahahahahaa can't unsee that 😂