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What Makes This Song Great? "Vasoline" Stone Temple Pilots
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2018
- In this episode of "What Makes this Song Great?" we feature the music of STP.
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The Deleo Bros were as good of a musical duo as there's ever been. Sophisticated chords, making sophisticated Melody's. Most underrated band in Rock history
and there goes the "underrated" comment, probably the most overused word in the whole youtube
Check out Army of Anyone. The brothers play with Ray Luzier (drummer of Korn) and Richard Patrick (singer of Filter). Start with the song Father Figure.
@@elusivelectron My favorite AOA song
@@barryallen3883 yep. First one on this thread too. Literally every video on every subject. A new way of saying it is "people sleep on".
@@barryallen3883 And here comes the RUclips Nazi with his own cliche comment judging someone else's cliche comment on a forum that is, by its very nature, going to contain a ton of cliched comments. A feature born out of the pursuit of comradery. The tracking down of like minded individuals to share their interpretations with in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might not be alone, swimming aimlessly somewhere in the vasoline......
AND THEN.....
There goes another ultimate display of hyperbole by using the Nazi's to illustrate something as being morally reprehensible to the Nth degree. Probably a bit of overkill but effective nonetheless.
Perhaps instead of commenting on commenting and sometimes commenting about commenting on commenting, we can all agree to focus our comments on the contents of the video itself. After all, that's why we're here in the first place isn't it?
Dean DeLeo is criminally overlooked by the general fans of rock. Rarely do you hear people talk about his style and playing. He’s one of the best to come out of the 90s.
07foxmulder His solo in Coma is one of my all time favorite both in tone and note selection. Criminally underrated.
totally agree - you won't hear the dude from Pearl Jam whose name I never bothered to learn playing a Bbmaj13 #11. Same with Interstate Love Song, all those great chords in there, but it still rocks and sounds great
northeastrocker Don’t underestimate Mike McCready or Stone Gossard. Both are great guitar players but both are completely different than DeLeo. You don’t have to be a fan of their music but you should really watch them play. They’re an awesome duo.
07foxmulder They are both great. There were some really great musicians to come out of the grunge era. But in my opinion, the only person better than Dean Deleo is Billy Corgan (from that era).
they are certainly not bad, and I like a couple PJ tunes, but I find Dean's stuff a lot more interesting
STP is one of the "hidden gems" in the history of rock music. Nobody typically thinks of them at the level of the greatest bands of all time because they came up in the grunge era and got pigeonholed, but they are so much more than one genre. Great to see them still making music and moving forward. This video is an awesome testament to their writing and playing skill.
Amen brother. I was a very big fan of them back in the day, then didn't listen to them for years. Now I'm 43 and in the past year, I've completely fallen in love with STP all over again.
The laziest and worst thing to happen to STP was the David Spade SNL joke. It didn't matter that STP were nothing luke Pearl Jam. Or that Songs From the Vatican Gift Shop all by itself was better than anything PJ would ever do again, the moniker stuck. While Scotts Shangri-La-D-da/Pet Sounds analogy may have been wishful thinking, there was some truth in it. The Beach Boys Pet Sounds record sold about 400,000 copies at the time, and it was completely dismissed. Now its considered one of the greatest albums ever. The critics were both harsh and wrong about STP and I'm not holding my breathe for an apology
@@tony.g20I think it was just after their debut album Core, they were pigeonholed as PJ knockoffs. They sounded nothing like PJ except for both using baritone singing voices. Weiland went on to demonstrate the versatility of his voice over the course of his career and I think the reviews improved. I personally thought STP was better than PJ; never really got into Vedder's quivering monotonous baritone myself, though I don't dispute that they're a good band.
STP wasn't from the Seattle scene, where all of the quote-unquote grunge bands emerged from, and as much as I have always preferred STP to PJ, STP was still kind of generic in their sound.
Many songs sound like one another, "Wicked Garden," "Dead and Bloated," "Sex Type Thing," etc. They didn't have great variation.
Compared to Alice in Chains, they weren't in the same ballpark, if they were even in the same league. In their prime, none of the bands from the early 90s matched AIC.
I think Pearl Jam deserves more credit than you give them, but they were certainly overrated at the time, largely thanks to extensive airplay.
But, yeah, it's baffling to me when I encounter people who have never heard of STP. STP was one of the most played bands from the early 90s, after those prima donnas Nirvana.
Criminally underrated. One of the best of that era. Great band
So cool hearing Scott’s isolated vocals, then he throws in that gritty distortion, incredible. He was an amazing vocalist. So sad he’s gone.
Hearing Scott's voice track solo'd gave me chills.
I got choked up when I heard it solo.
Great vibrato. Gave me the chills like hearing Ronnie VanZant freebird vocal solo.
Phenomenal pipes.
@Kem ! Scott was the definition on a rock star.
Yeah, he's such an amazing vocalist
I just love how they used so many harmonically sophisticated elements around the most bone-headed and primitive of riffs. Great juxtaposition.
Adam Ragusea They were brilliant
yeah.such a basic riff but with all kinds of underlying foilage.awesome
@@TheAlibabatree r
@@neboknenim9429 I love the Deleo brothers... but i do think Weiland was an integral part of their brilliance.
Oh wow just started watching Adams videos didn't except to see him here
The strength of STP is the songs. Combined with Scott's showmanship, they were magic. Big Empty and Interstate Love Song are so iconic and lead a sterling catalog. I can't think of one bad song they released.
Tyler I
no one talked about Wicked Garden, my fav STP song
Not one bad song? I love STP, but they have made some lousy songs. Lack of focus & Scott's heroin addiction could be the reason. Great artists can lose their creative intellect sometimes, maybe whatever it is, traumatic moments in their life or band dysfunction.
Art School Girl
I am a big fan of Purple. It's an underrated album. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Purple is perfect top to bottom. in my top 3 favorite albums of all time
Purple was massive. Its not underrated in any fashion.
STP is so underrated
They have a ton of really great tunes and lots of variety in their sound too
I think they were striving to be the zeppelin of the 90's. With their versatility, look and stage presence.
Totally agree. Everyone talks about Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Soundgarden as the heart of grunge. STP is often overlooked, but they are so solid and so versatile as David said. To go from "Dead and Bloated" to "Big Empty"....huge difference. Wieland's vocals were amazing, he could change his tone as well as anyone.
Robert DeLeo's bass really drove their melodies.
If only they had a singer who could sing and wasn't hooked on heroin. Weiland was so stupidly overrated.
His voice was awesome WTF you smoking?
I was obsessed with Purple when I was 14, loved every song on that record to death. Now, in my mid 30's, I'm seriously into music production, and seeing you dissect all these 90's tracks that shaped me, showing us all those details hidden in the mix, makes my heart sing. Thank you so, so much, Rick.
Daniel Narváez purple is my favorite
Daniel Narváez Not one bad cut on that album. Damn near wore out the tape in my car!
Even the cheesy hidden track at the end was amazing. Definitely a complete winner record... every song was great.
BAwesomeDesign "The Second Album...!"
Daniel Narváez It really says a lot when a band fully excels on their second album after already releasing a pretty epic debut in it's own right. So many bands seem to tap themselves out with their debut thanks to having a relatively sizable selection to choose from to take their best cuts for. When a band can take that momentum and actually build on that the way Pilots Dean, Eric, Scott, and Robert did it is an absolute, inarguable testament to their natural talent, ability, and cohesion as a group.
The DeLeo brothers are super talented
So is Eric
And Scott
Stone Temple Pilots and Alice In Chains were the two best grunge bands of the 90’s, in my opinion.
Weiland and STP are too charismatic and energetic for grunge imo. They’re just straight rock n roll.
i feel the same way about soundgarden and alice in chains
The big 4 of grunge were the 4 best grunge bands of the 90’s, in my opinion. Oh, and STP is not a grunge band.
Mathlord whatever you want to call them dude.
Mathlord your comment makes no sense btw.
There is nobody like Rick. His knowledge of all instruments, his experience on recording, and - oh my God - his ears!!! And finally: his passion. Every video is pure gold. No time-wasting. Every second counts.
Purple one of the best 90s albums ever!!
I’ve always loved the drums this song because you don’t generally hear a great groove like that in a rock song.
Dean is completely underrated. His chordal work/writing is way outside the genres simplistic technical demands. Pretty much every song of theirs has excellent progressions cause of his playing/writing.
If you think you know how to play the guitar part to any STP part, just find the music for it. The DeLeo brothers are musical monsters.
Jason Ewton well said bro💥👍
Another good point.
Seriously. I remember thinking I "learned" the riffs for "Plush" but could never figure out why it didn't "sound" right until digging in further.
STP really needs more recognition. They have epic tunes!!!
Absolutely!! Though considered, "Grunge"... very different than the "Seattle Sound"- not better, but different. Certainly more produced in a myriad of ways.
They are one of the biggest bands of the 90s. They have sold multiple tens of millions of records. What do they need more recognition for? Im a huge fan since their first album came out. Ive seen them 10 times. I dont feel their popularity is undue or unfair.
They are one of the biggest bands of the 90s. They have sold multiple tens of millions of records. What do they need more recognition for? Im a huge fan since their first album came out. Ive seen them 10 times. I dont feel their popularity is undue or unfair.
Queens of The Stone Age “I Sat By The Ocean” you’d have a ball with that one Beato!!!
STP had groove. And I love Weiland's voice. Killer riff in this song.
"Big Bang Baby" always puts me in a good mood when I hear it.
Catchy as hell & prime on confidence. They were on fire 🔥
The riff came from Rob mimicking a car's blinker. Rob actually wrote a lot of STP's stuff. He said himself that he hopes his jazz influences shine through.
@@iamwe7035 I thought it was common knowledge that Rob came up with most of the riffs/arrangements.
@@iamwe7035 wow after listening to their cover of Dancing Days by Zep I definitely hear the bossa nova vibe
In 1994, my brother and I went to the STP concert in Las Vegas. We sat up in the balcony. A band called Redd Cross opened for them. I didn’t realize it at the time but I was seeing true legends. Musically, they were very, very tight. It sounded very well arranged and like the CDs. Especially Weiland’s vocals.
It's actually Dean's brother Robert DeLeo (bassist) who is the jazz guy. Robert wrote most of their music, guitar riffs, etc. as well.
Yes! STP, finally! 🤘
R.I.P. Scott
Hes missed every second of every day
INTERSTATE LOVE SONG
That's definitely one of the most "musical" STP songs. I actually figured it was gonna be the song he covered. My personal favorite STP song is Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart though.
The songs you both mention are my two favorites of theirs. Trippin' was a journey into Scott's mind and Love Song was their best single. A masterpiece. STP was boss. I'll always miss seeing those 4 together.
Yeah and what's cool is I'm actually a big blues and jazz fan but I love STP because of their musicality and it's definitely true that Dean is a jazz fan. I really hate when people call them "grunge".
It’s based on a Bossanova. Also, i didn’t know that Robert wrote most of the hit tunes (Plush, ILS). There’s a recent video of him explaining his creative process here on YT. Check it out!
Demetri Wolfe I’m from the future he will do it in the year 2019
One of the greatest bands out there, one of the best singers as well.
Scott Wyland and I were choir singers together doing classical music. I think classical music influenced his choice of notes like the 7th's and 9th's ect....
Tiny Songs... Music for the Vatican Gift Shop is such an underrated album, especially if you're talking about Jazz influences in their songs!
Totally agree. Tiny Music is my favorite STP album. Those songs are masterpieces, damn near every one of 'em. The jazz influence really comes out in full bloom on that album, but it's utilized in a way that really just makes the tracks more interesting ROCK songs. I guess technically it could be called jazz fusion, but the jazz is much more stealthy and clever than what I typically think of as jazz fusion. It in no way diminishes the rock core of their sound. Amazing production on Tiny Music as well.
Art School Girl, Seven Caged Tigers .... even STP’s “b-sides” are excellent. Used to run a mix tape (burned cd) of nothing but their non-radio songs or ones no station has played in 20 years. “Forgotten A’s & Beautiful B’s”. It became my wife’s favorite album.
Helmet threw a lot of jazz influence in their music as well (Page Hamilton being a legit jazz-trained guitarist).
Yeah, that is criminal that that album was underpromoted.
I recall seeing an interview where Scott said he was particularly proud of tiny music. Total package and message.
STP just had so much rocket sauce with Weiland,so many great hooks he wrote with that solid band behind him.there are a definitely underrated band.their music will stand the test of time.
When I was banging around the mosh pits in my 20’s I never thought in my 40’s I’d have access to an analysis of my favorite songs from STP, Nirvana, and Rage. Thank you Mr. Beato!!!
STP one of greatest bands ever. Scott right up there in my list of top vocalist ever to grace this earth. Its really sad that most people havent even heard of them...Scott never got the recognition he deserved
Dudes got more tips than a hooters waitress!!!
Looool
May I humbly suggest “Trippin on a hole in a paper heart” for a future episode? The Dean’s solo in that song is my favorite solo of all time.
The baseline is amazing as well. I almost did that song for this episode :)
shmubootz I really like his solo in lady picture show
Me too. That bass line makes it for me. So awesome.
Rick Beato do Trippin on a hole and Still Remains? Please
@@RickBeato Adhesive, organ, piano, horns, off the scale dynamics, and of course, monster bass. Who cares that it's a "hidden gem" STP song, it's so interesting.
Purple is a masterpiece of an album. I remember being 15 years old when this released and damn near wearing the CD out. Growing up in the 90's was an amazing time to experience.
Ur old
@@oilerz15 yawn
@@oilerz15 why ru here
As a fan of STP, I appreciate this.
Weiland was a melodic creative genius, and Robert DeLeo is an amazing bass player, really underated band and musicians
And one of the worst lyricists of all time.
@@Darrylizer1 Lyrics are always very subjective.
@@mmojorissen True but they should make some pretense at making sense. Word salad can be fun too I suppose.
talking bout lyrics, Still Remains.
@@thebiggusdonnus8453 their lyrics rarely made any sense and came off as obscure high school poetry
Robert DeLeo is the real Jazz Man of the group. He's responsible for most if not all of the grown up chords in their songs.
dunno, if Dean is reeling off a whole Allan Holdsworth solo on the fly, he's gotta have some jazz chops at the ready - maybe Robert did more of the writing tho? don't know their details that well but love the composition they do
Kinda like Page Hamilton of Helmet.
@@northeastrocker My understanding is that Robert has written the vast majority of their hits. And I say that taking nothing away from Dean who is one of my favorite guitar players of all time.
DeLeo brothers had the most original harmony approach in grunge era. That jazz chords with heavy distorsion were so strange but efective...
When Core came out, and I was 16, I finally found the album that spoke to me as a teen. Then, when Purple came out my mind was blown. Looking back now, I prefer Purple to Core by a large margin (Core is till wicked).
When Tiny Music came out, my first thoughts were - this isn't the STP I know and love, and I was hesitant. But after giving that album it's due, I now consider it my 2nd favorite, and from time to time, it moved into the first spot.
Man, I love this band. Great video.
Core is great for just pure power, but Purple is so complex and beautiful and weird. One of my favorite albums ever, period.
Eric Kretz man! killer. Kinda like Brad Wilk in terms of such an integral part of their sound but also in some ways, subtle. Glad I'm still recording without quantising, Rick you nailed it and thanks for highlighting that fact! I mean I love STP and Army Of Anyone but to know Dean throws Allan in as well is just immense! Slightly off topic but to do with RATM/Brendan O'Brien - I'm lucky enough to have worked in L.A with the guy (J.J) who owned the studio where Evil Empire was recorded (Cole I believe) this was back in 2006 but I asked him about the drum mic'ing on that session - he said nothing special, overheads...its all the room! but they did mic the snare top, bottom and...the air hole/vent! 3 mics! killer. Thanks Rick you are awesome as ever :)
Never realized there was an acoustic track in the mix too.
It's so buried.
Jazz influence so deep, twisted, and brilliant. We need more of it today. There was a sense of freshness and adventure present in the grunge era.
I keep coming back to this video. I loved this song from my teens and love it still in my "old age"! Rick Beato is a legend and he just brings another level of appreciation and enjoyment. You ROCK Mr. Beato!!!
Once again proving that the grunge era had some subtly sophisticated writing despite the fact it was often seen as the undoing of "higher" musical art forms.
Thank you!
Every generation is the same, the music of your parents was primitive and unsophisticated, the music of your youth was pure genius, and the music of your kids is derivative garbage without soul... check back with me in 20-30 years.
@@warrendourond7236 not really true, just look how disco aged terribly...
@@jayspeed999 True! Bee Gees are the only ones who aged well lol, their songwriting’s to good to fall into that category
Vaseline was not high on my list of songs from STP, but I now find myself with more of an appreciation, nice job!
Constable 1976 Same!
I've always liked the song, despite it's deceptive simplicity, but now I have a better appreciation of why I like it.
Constable 1976 I’ve loved the song since day 1
I got into STP by the song vasoline
Stp was my fave from the grunge era with aic in a close second
AiC first with STP as a very close second. RIP Layne and Scott. ❤
STP and Alice in Chains were so great at putting out sounds and music that nobody else was doing. It was the last gasp of creativity in popular music, the era where music studios even tried anything experimental or unexpected.
Purple was my fav STP record. I remember listening to it on weekends when my dad asked me to come to the office to help with work.
Still Remains remains to be my favorite and the least talked-about song by them.
Glad to see you're still making these videos despite being pissed off about the blockers.
I love the jazz influence that the Deleo’s incorporated into many of their tunes.
I love STP. Saw them live in Stockholm in 1994 and it was unforgettable.
DeLeo was heavily into 'Yes', you can hear Steve Howe type ragtime chording in the ballads
I thought I was the only one that knew that.
Probably my favorite song ever. Thanks for doing this.
This is on of my favorite STP songs ever! I remember this video when I was like 16, they were so cool in those funky tuxes!
Thank you for breaking their genius down. STP is one of the greatest things that ever happened to rock. The perfect band. Scott’s passing was so hard to swallow.
That's what makes human beings sound like human beings. Preach it! I play drums and nothing else and I really enjoy the way you dig into the music theory of these rock songs. Vasoline is a great song.
Great song choice. Awesome poly groove riff. Great guitar player and parts. Rockin' tune!!
I would love to see you do a complex Silverchair song like Emotion Sickness, Paint Pastel Princess or Tuna in The Brine. I would be awesome!!
Thank you for making me love one of my favorite songs even more.
“21” Stone Temple “Pilots” 😂 my brain confused everything up for a second
Thank you so much for doing this particular song. When I saw STP in the thumbnail, I knee-jerkingly thought Interstate Love Song -- which is still great, but Vasoline is one of their coolest tracks.
And you're SO spot-on about that slight pause after the chorus!
I love these videos so much. Even though I've known about most of these bands, I just didn't realize how great all of them were. Thanks for helping me discover and rediscover so many bands!
Another great one! It’s so cool that you put these videos together. Thanks🤘
Love this series.
I'm hard of hearing so breaking these songs down isolates things I never could hear in them.
Thanks,
literally the only channel that attracts my attention these days. Can't get enough of these "what makes this song great" videos Rick!
Grew up listening to these guys. Thank you Rick! This was one of my favorite tracks.
Rick, You do such a great job with these What Make The Song Great videos. I love watching them. You are a massively talented musician and a I appreciate the time and effort you put into this series. Friggin Brilliant!!!! THANKS!!!!
The best way I've heard described the pauses you talk about at the end of the chorus and where ever else, is like breathing. It's where you take a breath when singing or talking. This works perfectly when playing wind instruments, because you need to breathe for the as well. It creates natural phrases. It's something that can get lost when playing instruments that don't need air to work them. It also gets lost now when things can just be edit together from scraps.
Brendan O'Brien was a 90's production god.
Agreed!!!
Still is! He produced two great Mastodon albums
I love this song. One of my favourites from STP. Thanks mate.
This is my absolute favorite series! Thank you Rick!
Totally stumbled upon this randomly, and my heart is just fluttering. I’ve been an STP fan since high school (mid 90s), and I was a music major in college (but that was years ago, I’ve forgotten most of my theory). One of the things I’ve loved so much about STP is that they’re not a straight I-IV-V-I kinda band. I have always had a very difficult time analyzing their progressions (now I know why), and something about that was just exciting and fun. Watching this breakdown of the chords and progressions is just magic, and listening to the isolated tracks gives me goosebumps. Makes me wish I had stuck with music professionally. Thank you so much for this vid, and for this series.
Dang Rick, I've said this before but I absolutely love your enthusiasm for music and your ability to break things down to the smallest detail in a way almost anyone can understand and appreciate. You have a gift and a genuine purpose. Thank you.
Be great at what you do... and have fun doing it!!! Cheers.
Everytime I watch your videos, I go back and reacquaint/relearn all these great songs that I used to play waaay back when! Thank you Sir!
I love these videos man. It really helps inspire me to write and play on top of teaching me so many new things about these bands, recording, and engineering. More videos like these please.
Rick, my favorite Forensic Musicologist!!! He is what makes music great!! Rick, I really need you to do Terry Kath's 25/6/4 from Tanglewood.........that'll be a real workout for you.........
'Terry Kath' is totally underrated!!
Terry used Jazz Chord Progressions too. I miss him terribly
Favorite STP song ever. I remember blaring this and belting out the chorus down the highway in my 84 Camaro LOL
Man...I love this channel and this series. Best RUclips recommendations I have ever received.
My favorite video series on youtube!
Cheers from Rio de Janeiro!
Best rock kick drum sound ever was STPs “Core” album. Massive.
STP is my instant clickbait.
I can't express how much I appreciate this content. I just found your channel and I've been loving finding new ways to enjoy many of the songs I love and even songs I didn't.
Rick you nailed it again, thanks so much for this awesome video!
Hey Rick this is just such a great channel. I always wonder about these songs and why they are so cool, how did the person come up with it, what were they thinking, etc. I don't know how many times I've seen youtube videos where people claim the person probably "just tried something out and it sounded cool, you don't need to get bogged down in theory, etc.". You, on the other hand, really are getting into what is going on with these tunes. These aren't just some bumbling idiots who do trial and error to come up with songs. They know what they are doing and you are breaking it down for musical illiterates like myself. So thanks for this, it's a really interesting series and really well put together.
6:43 - One way or another by blondie ;D
Thank you for this Video and other Videos of this series. It inspires me a lot!!
Now that was great, beautiful music! Thanks for making us remember how it was done back in the days Mr. Beato!!
Hey man, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be when your videos get blocked. Thanks for persevering.
One of their most interesting songs. When it became a single in the 90's it sounded like nothing else. Joyously weird.
Love your videos! This is a fantastic song. The flam snare fills are worthy of mention. You really don't hear that very often and its just SO powerful.
The first time I've seen the channel and brother you made me remember exactly why I love everything about STP and this is a masterpiece of it's time. They did the same thing a lot of others were, only that much better...
I have been playing instruments since i was 9 but i was always so intimidaeted by Music thoery. Now i'm 34 and music production suffers becasue of it. Music Parents make sure your kids study Music thoery !!!
why is music capitalized where it doesn't need to be. music isn't a deity
You must be a real pedantic sad individual, I hope this comment makes your day.
it sure did.
furthermore, why did you choose to be a producer if you can't write music?
Why didn't you capitalize your sentences? This isn't an IM chat.
why do you abbreviate? this isn't a text.
STP was pretty much the last big recording Rock group to my way of thinking....glad I grew up when I did. Still wonder where Rick gets all these individual tracks.
Wow Rick you Rock the house! I used to love this song when I was teenager and now at my 40s, you just gave us energy to come back and take music! Amazing!
These excellent videos are my musicology lessons during quarantine and so entertaining. I love RB's enthusiasm! Great that STP is still together and hope they get back on the road once this era is over,
I've been waiting for this moment all my life! I am probably first I don't know. One cool band would probably be Black Sabbath IDK. Thank you Rick.
Apparently it was actually Robert DeLeo who was responsible for most of their signature chord voicings
Grant C yep. Robert is responsible for the rather unorthodox rock chords. Not to take away from Dean though because he writes some great licks too. But Rick is spot on. Ask Robert Deleo what he listens to he’d tell you a lot of jazz.
Grant C Robert is a big Motown fan also
Great run down of this classic STP jam! The band is by far my fave group from the nineties! I love the choppy melodic grooves that they captured on most of their tunes! Keep up the good work Rick and the more STP jams the better! : )
The tuning of the drums & the room, and the frequency/tone decay, really makes this song shine! :D