everything here is pretty accurate but i do disagree with shadow not being d tier. lightning (fine in c tier) gives good utility in spark swap with alot of damage boosting talents and mantras (raging and lightning cloak (single test dps boosting mantra in the game)). where as shadow only really have shadow seekers, only good for cheesing and never optimal, and shade devour, a decent mantra but disables spine cutter. if you are judging more based off mono attunement it makes sense
shadow still has the single highest damage out of any attunement, eclipse kick, dark blade, seekers, clutching shadow, meteors [cd shared with seekers :( so eh], for duke and ferryman its byfar the best, being able to kill duke in about 1 or 2 minutes max due to golems being annoying, and being able to kill ferryman in about 15-30 seconds if you know how to do him consistantly, tho I do not know if devour affects mantras so I dont put it high up in tier
I love flamecharm because I can set enemies on fire instead of gripping them which doesn't alert nearby enemies, comes in handy for certain situations such as crypt of the unbroken for example
I mostly agree with the list and I understand it’s just you opinion, but imo thunder and shadow, while not being the best, are still pretty decent for pve Thundercall: Raging static is a very good dmg boost Lightning cloak is extremely good because it can make your evanspear that already 2 shots threshers have the same swing speed as a medium weapon, making the dps skyrocket Emotion wave deals good damage against things with big hitboxes like widow, crabs, king jellyfish, or ethiron because of the multiple lightning bolts following the initial part of the mantra Grand javelin can save your life if you have grand skewer Shadow: I agree that shadow does not have very many good mantras, but the ones it has are very good for damage Shade devour is a free boost Shadow meteors just lets you passively do much more damage as you m1 Shadow seekers While being a one hit move, eclipse kick deals heavy damage Shadow is very very good with frost draw because of permafrost prison, which is amazing for aoe and deals decent damage passively You can shadow travel away from danger sometimes Dark rift is just free ghost, saving you 15 points to put into something else If you plan to go silentheart, it probably wouldn’t hurt to just not get the oath and go 50 thunder preshrine for the cloak to make your dps way better than if you went silentheart. Also, it opens up the opportunity to get Dawnwaker, which has blinding dawn, one of the best pve mantras currently If you are going frost, you could just get 30 shadow for permafrost prison, which will just increase your crowd control and passively increase your overall damage by a lot. Or maybe just go 60 shadow preshrine so you don’t have to get ghost. I get that 60 sdw is more than 40 agi, but your attunement can drop more than 25 points when you shrine, unlike your base stats I do agree gale and frost are on top, but thunder and shadow imo are worthy of b or a tier
You should have taken into account the weapon options for example the only reason people use shadow is because the hero blade crit is amazing and one of the main reasons people use ice for diluvian is because of Gran Suduruska and it's low stat requirments. Other than that decent vid
“Little utility” for thundercall? What yall know about the static link talent tree and authority inquisitor + ferryman coat? (Definitely still the worst for pve tho)
Before watching this video, i was a thundercaller. I tried to take on duke, putting this video off, only for the golems to kill me easily due to:A, i was using a katana (terrible against golems) and b, lightning damage is actually terrible. Im now a frostdrawer getting ready to kill duke with my goofy heavy build with my comically sized hammer
Honestly I prefer frostdraw, the mobility is fine, but with gale its much harder to 1v1 with those mantras if you get caught out, with gran sudaruska you can melt
Id say ice is slightly better (in terms of dps) But ofc gale has 2 very good movement mantras and wave dashing (ice has glorping or whatever its called but thats dual attunement) in terms of l2 they are both good but for the others i feel like gale is better (especially ferryman)
I want to argue for flame as I think it should be S tier. Hungry flames is just to good to pass up on. If you didnt know you get a flamecharm talent called hungry flames which allows you to cast spells using your hungry and thirst bar. Combine this with the carnivore talent which gives you thirst and hunger for mobs, you get the best combo in the game. Essentially you dont have to worry about your ether, save points that would have gone into intelligence, and you can put unlimited modfiers on your mantras as it dosent matter in something like dilluvian as your killing so many mobs your hunger and thirst will never run out thanks to carnivore.
Kinda weird to compare elements as a solo pve utilities. I mean, in most of the builds you combine elements (we do NOT talk about silentheart m1/gran suda brickwalls) to gain whatever you wanted Gale+thunder = mobility and nice dmg Flame is cool utility and 40% dmg buff Ice is best mantras Iron is, uh..1 usefull mantra Shadow cast gives you best heroblade crit for mobility and impressive damage output against bosses like duke and ferryman. So yea, pointless vid imo lol
@@Тотсамый-х1ж8з I’m comparing attunements by itself as a base and no you don’t usually combine elements unless your going for a very specific overall build , and silent heart and brick wall gran suda are very good options
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everything here is pretty accurate but i do disagree with shadow not being d tier. lightning (fine in c tier) gives good utility in spark swap with alot of damage boosting talents and mantras (raging and lightning cloak (single test dps boosting mantra in the game)). where as shadow only really have shadow seekers, only good for cheesing and never optimal, and shade devour, a decent mantra but disables spine cutter. if you are judging more based off mono attunement it makes sense
Iv used eclipse kick for pve and it's pretty solid for chaser idk ab ethiron. Just boss rushing
oh look it’s skipper gripper cool I’m a fan
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shadow still has the single highest damage out of any attunement, eclipse kick, dark blade, seekers, clutching shadow, meteors [cd shared with seekers :( so eh], for duke and ferryman its byfar the best, being able to kill duke in about 1 or 2 minutes max due to golems being annoying, and being able to kill ferryman in about 15-30 seconds if you know how to do him consistantly, tho I do not know if devour affects mantras so I dont put it high up in tier
Shadow is a pvp element so
i think bro really likes terraria calamity sprites
I love flamecharm because I can set enemies on fire instead of gripping them which doesn't alert nearby enemies, comes in handy for certain situations such as crypt of the unbroken for example
i LOVE the pokemon music in the background at the start it gave me so much nostalgia
Me too
I mostly agree with the list and I understand it’s just you opinion, but imo thunder and shadow, while not being the best, are still pretty decent for pve
Thundercall:
Raging static is a very good dmg boost
Lightning cloak is extremely good because it can make your evanspear that already 2 shots threshers have the same swing speed as a medium weapon, making the dps skyrocket
Emotion wave deals good damage against things with big hitboxes like widow, crabs, king jellyfish, or ethiron because of the multiple lightning bolts following the initial part of the mantra
Grand javelin can save your life if you have grand skewer
Shadow:
I agree that shadow does not have very many good mantras, but the ones it has are very good for damage
Shade devour is a free boost
Shadow meteors just lets you passively do much more damage as you m1
Shadow seekers
While being a one hit move, eclipse kick deals heavy damage
Shadow is very very good with frost draw because of permafrost prison, which is amazing for aoe and deals decent damage passively
You can shadow travel away from danger sometimes
Dark rift is just free ghost, saving you 15 points to put into something else
If you plan to go silentheart, it probably wouldn’t hurt to just not get the oath and go 50 thunder preshrine for the cloak to make your dps way better than if you went silentheart. Also, it opens up the opportunity to get Dawnwaker, which has blinding dawn, one of the best pve mantras currently
If you are going frost, you could just get 30 shadow for permafrost prison, which will just increase your crowd control and passively increase your overall damage by a lot. Or maybe just go 60 shadow preshrine so you don’t have to get ghost. I get that 60 sdw is more than 40 agi, but your attunement can drop more than 25 points when you shrine, unlike your base stats
I do agree gale and frost are on top, but thunder and shadow imo are worthy of b or a tier
You should have taken into account the weapon options for example the only reason people use shadow is because the hero blade crit is amazing and one of the main reasons people use ice for diluvian is because of Gran Suduruska and it's low stat requirments. Other than that decent vid
@@henryweber5735 I considered doing that but I wanted to solely focus on the attunements itself but yea I get what ur saying
Hope you you get more subscribers, fr you deserve more bro!❤
I actually really enjoy ironsing for pve, oxidizing rush/metal armament have a very consistent damage output too 🙏
Same brother, I love my caltrops its so fun.
We litterally nerf the defense of the mobs with scrap singer and we do more damage to mobs without armor. Ins kinda good
i like that you used calamity mod images for this 👍also would you recommend me going a silentheart or a attunement for a solo diluvian build?
@@waitimboatedd ur choice icl
the spark swap in question:
@@sd3kcir471 i use it to make people fall into layer 2
@@sosuke8424wipe ur self ng
@@sosuke8424you deserve to wipe and be banned
love the videos and the editing style keep it up dude
Another fire vid 🗣️🔥
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Amazing vid as always
Lets goo love the vids they help so much 👍
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I FCKNG LOVE SO MUCH THE TERRARIA CALAMITY IMAGE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRO 😁😁
Thanks 😁
AYYYY MAZING VIDEO!
the thing I like about flame is that enemys can burn out making it really good for executing a bunch of enemies at once
It not good for layer 2
Good vid im gonna try to make a build soon:D
“Little utility” for thundercall? What yall know about the static link talent tree and authority inquisitor + ferryman coat? (Definitely still the worst for pve tho)
It has lightning cloak but idk maybe its not worth it
FINALLY THE THING WE ALL WAITED FOR NOW WE NEED A PVE BUILD GUIDE PLEASE
Before watching this video, i was a thundercaller. I tried to take on duke, putting this video off, only for the golems to kill me easily due to:A, i was using a katana (terrible against golems) and b, lightning damage is actually terrible. Im now a frostdrawer getting ready to kill duke with my goofy heavy build with my comically sized hammer
You really went from rags to riches huh... Good work, Placeholder.
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do u know me tho
Honestly I prefer frostdraw, the mobility is fine, but with gale its much harder to 1v1 with those mantras if you get caught out, with gran sudaruska you can melt
just so you know flame within doesnt proc charged rturn, but agitating spark does
Whaaaaaat??? Is that a bug? Being on fire definitely should count as an elemental status.
the goat uploaded again
the pokemon music is so nostalgic
Id say ice is slightly better (in terms of dps)
But ofc gale has 2 very good movement mantras and wave dashing (ice has glorping or whatever its called but thats dual attunement) in terms of l2 they are both good but for the others i feel like gale is better (especially ferryman)
this video got me galebreathing in pve 🔥
You should do a layer 2 floor 1/2 skip tutorial (as if some clippable walls and others)
I never do l2
I want to argue for flame as I think it should be S tier. Hungry flames is just to good to pass up on. If you didnt know you get a flamecharm talent called hungry flames which allows you to cast spells using your hungry and thirst bar. Combine this with the carnivore talent which gives you thirst and hunger for mobs, you get the best combo in the game. Essentially you dont have to worry about your ether, save points that would have gone into intelligence, and you can put unlimited modfiers on your mantras as it dosent matter in something like dilluvian as your killing so many mobs your hunger and thirst will never run out thanks to carnivore.
we’ve ran out of ideas, so we gonna do tier lists now 😭
@@retroverser 🤪🤪
@@placeowner lalalalalala 😋
would put ironing way higher, it's paired with icedraw alot for a reason
flamecharm better for dilu tho and dilu is much more "in the pve know" than layer 2, going to have to ask you kindly to swap frostdraw and flamecharm.
“okay mobility”
glacial arc + ice lance goes brrr
Situational but gea
@@placeowner NAWH, ICE SKATES YOU CAN LEGIT FLY.
Hmm. I suppose the first one is Frostdraw, but I will definitely watch this magnificent work of art anyway
yayya
Shouldve mentioned that ironsing bypasses all attuned mob resistances
Can you do a PvP one next?
shadow travel is the best movment ability in the game
Do oaths next and bells too
I lub your vids
ranking attunements while using while using silentheart in the background 💀
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I love this academy
@@Alicerce-oq6xi me too
the new piss attunement is goated fr
Gale is my favourite for pve, and attunementless I don't know really
What armor u reocmend for lft?
You did NOT just said azure was a path.
ironsing has iron ball as mobility how could u forget 😭😭😭😭😭😭
What's the song at the beginning?
we love placeholder101
Good video
Where you placing attunementless for pve?
Attunementless in S no questions
Me waiting for pve content, then instead of getting pvp 😔
@@dantheyeetguy426 this is pve 😭
@@placeowner no like actual deepwoken updates, not vids 💀( my fault i didn't specify right)
peak as always
Frost draw video pliss
This is s pretty goof
Kinda weird to compare elements as a solo pve utilities.
I mean, in most of the builds you combine elements (we do NOT talk about silentheart m1/gran suda brickwalls) to gain whatever you wanted
Gale+thunder = mobility and nice dmg
Flame is cool utility and 40% dmg buff
Ice is best mantras
Iron is, uh..1 usefull mantra
Shadow cast gives you best heroblade crit for mobility and impressive damage output against bosses like duke and ferryman.
So yea, pointless vid imo lol
@@Тотсамый-х1ж8з I’m comparing attunements by itself as a base and no you don’t usually combine elements unless your going for a very specific overall build , and silent heart and brick wall gran suda are very good options
Bro MIGHT play calamity
Should of included attunementless
I’m gale breathing
Is attunementless good for pve then?
What about attunmentless?
@@The_AluCurry forgot , pretty bad tho
@@placeowner alr thanks
@@The_AluCurryit’s onyl bad if you don’t have silentheart
Honestly used to be good but them changing to attunement based pve was a much better choice
What about attunementless (not silentheart)
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@@placeowner ;-;
no attumentless 💔💔💔💔💔
what about attunementless?
Can you make pvp?
What about attunementless
Seraph tracers 👟 🪽
On baby
Really electro carve?
frostdraw has op mobility and is op for layer 2 tho?
Iron on B tier 💀
Is attunementless good for pve tho?
No
@@placeowner wdym silent heart still solo's diluvian
@@placeowner silentheart not good for pve?
@@bread3294 attunementsless isnt silentheart
@@placeownerohh you ment not concluding silentheart. Ok 👌
is this music copyrighted?
@@TugboatTet yea but it doesn’t do anything
@@placeowner oh cool
1 view in 2 minutes my boy fell off
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shadow is S tier fym???
no its not
@@placeowner its the BEST attunement rn