With my experience making this build, don't start with attunement, start attunementless and unlock frostdraw just before you shrine of order. Once you reach 100 WILL and 100 FORT, you may notice that you haven't got brick wall and you need to level up, but you can't stat into anything because it will screw with your shrine of order. So use Shrine of Blasphemy or Shrine of Chance to get brick wall and then Shrine of Order. After you have maxed, if you are missing cards you need like Full Reset (perhaps you didn't get a bell before you maxed), use shrine of chance or do Talent hand quests to get them.
A little tip for anyone who doesn't wanna go all the way to wave 50. Keep farming to wave 25 and repeat, most of the chests BETWEEN wave 25 and wave 50 are mid, so if you don't wanna go all the way to the riskiest part, stay at wave 25.
insanely well edited pve video and a really good build. good job man! the one thing i worry about though is if 25 agil is worth it over something like 90 fort post shrine for full reinforced armor, since conditioned doesn't do alot in diluvian and speed demon is minimal, regardless though this build has the honor of soloing the diluvian.
@@lolfoxmaster4870sometimes you just gotta sacrifice to make a build do good in what its made for, you don't need that bleed damage bro, RA postshrine is really good to get that extra bit of tankyness to make up for the speed
only few times i actually felt satisfied by someone's build, i actually managed to get that wave 50 diluvian solo with this build and im grateful for your job, keep cooking these builds
Monster armor is not needed but way smarter than fully stacking dvm. Max dvm without monster armor is 64% (not counting echos) (counting drowned) Max monster armor (37%) + high dvm is like 58% if my calculations are correct (not counting echos) (counting drowned)
hey uh so using this build i cant even get past wave 25. i have the exact same talents, exact same mantras all leveled up. the only thing i lack is corrupt payback, but i need to get to wave 25 to get it. any suggestions?
@@uiabguiabwag sinner's ash can drop at wave 25 if you're able to get to those chests, just keep farming diluvian until you can get one and then you should be able to get to wave 50.
great video and all but quick question, you say to get 1 frostdraw and THEN do shrine of order but whenever i start a playthrough i start with ten. is there a way to set it to 0 or am i just stupid for not realising that i need to start with 10 and just put 1 point into it?
idk if im dumb but this stat order doesnt work like, at all. I've been on the deepwoken builder trying to understand how you would be getting brick wall, when you are power 16 by all the points, and then shrine of order by adding the points into frost, heavy, and agility. And if you try and add the final points at end of the build you cant get enough heavy for the gran so I am lost. Only way it works, is if you remove 5 points off of int from the start but even then i dont see how it would be good.
so the crystals are only used to push the mobs back, meaning I can choose either go that path or not, right? edit: just asking for my casual pve build..
@@mmfreshmeat2860it’s also just for speed in general. Getting space between you and monsters if you need to wait for a cooldown is better than being stuck in a crowd getting smacked
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283I want to die rn I completely forgot about that and shrined without getting brickwall, but then I got wiped by some people and bought a last wind cuz I was not in the mood to prog allat again I just wasted money...
This is a race based build since you cant get 30 int and 30 str at the same time on some race since it will miss out some stat for 30 weapon so yeah just get 25 int and not 30
is everchanging aegis really needed? im not sure if i wanna pick that one up lol, even though there are certain waves where mobs only have 1 specific element
how am i meant to get brick wall when you get 100 willpower and 100 fortitude halfway through level 16 and then you need to shrine, and the after shrining you go down to 75 each. how do i get extra talent hands pre-shrine?? 😒
You need to talk to mystic for human architecture tree and then use shrine of chance to roll for brick wall I did the same thing and had to wipe the build hope this helps
@@CrimsonKaido i cant get it when i reroll rare talents either,also i missed the full reset card,and in the mystic it doenst show the misscalleinous quote (i have bell and im level 20),do you know why? thank you for making a amazing build like this.
it doesnt work when i shrined my strent went to 24 not 22 and with the 1 point he said to put in agility for 25 agility now i am missing 3 points for gran
@@apljs so my only race good for this is etrean, instead of going 23 agility should I just not put a point in agility and add the extra ones in frost? Cuz the max on agility for my race is just 24 I'm short in 1 point
You can choose attunementless and then go to the frost trainer and give him 5 frigid prisms and you unlock frostrdraw only 1. You do this so when you shrine of order, your stats will be a bit better. (Check wiki if some of the stuff I said don’t make sense)
@@JaronPalone Wait so when do you use frigid prism for this build, can you use it right before you shrine, or do you use it straight away when ur starting the build. Cuz i want the frostdraw mantras, but if i use frigid prism right before i shrine, will i get all the mantras i need?
Bc the last time i level up my stat will me like 30str 30intel 100fort 95will so make it to 100 will and add 1 to agi and wep wont be enought to level uo
This is the order I did, 30 strength and 30 intel in trial of one. Do the rest of the points while in trial to fort. That’s gets you to like 81. Then go to 100 fort. Get will to 100. You’ll be level 15 with 94 will. Get the remaining 6 points. You’ll be level 16. Put the one point in agility, frost, and heavy. Head to shrine of chance to get brick wall because reinforced armor you’ll get in a normal card hand progressing in this order. You’ll have enough knowledge (assuming you have maxed out starter knowledge) to shrine of order and have the ability to reroll two talents if need be.
it can be used on like every build while has a free mantra slot because you can have an M1 build that isn't silentheart and use warden blades for nullifying clarity
Hey I don't understand how to make this build because when I get all the stats needed before shrining I need to put more than 1 point into agility, weapon and ice to power up and get brick wall
Idk why but i did this build 3 times and wiped cuz i couldnt get piercing will, idk where the problem i did the stat order right and did everything and i still dont get wheres the problem
I get 1 frost 1 heavy but need 7 agility so i can power up and get brick wall before shrine but if i do that i end up with 77 frost and I dont get how im meant to get brickwall and end with 77 frost at the same time
With my experience making this build, don't start with attunement, start attunementless and unlock frostdraw just before you shrine of order. Once you reach 100 WILL and 100 FORT, you may notice that you haven't got brick wall and you need to level up, but you can't stat into anything because it will screw with your shrine of order. So use Shrine of Blasphemy or Shrine of Chance to get brick wall and then Shrine of Order. After you have maxed, if you are missing cards you need like Full Reset (perhaps you didn't get a bell before you maxed), use shrine of chance or do Talent hand quests to get them.
yo bro, is the build good?
I'd rather try to find a different solution then have to escape Depths as a Deepbound just to unlock attunements.
@@DontWorryImNotImportant you dont have to start deepbound i did it with trial of one
@@DontWorryImNotImportant If you manage to get the bell, just ask yun shul lol
how do u get frostdraw whe attunementless
A little tip for anyone who doesn't wanna go all the way to wave 50.
Keep farming to wave 25 and repeat, most of the chests BETWEEN wave 25 and wave 50 are mid, so if you don't wanna go all the way to the riskiest part, stay at wave 25.
Do it still give good amount of relics?
@@shotsal4482ye
does wave 25 grant a high chance of relics like moonseye?
@@fructi5568 decently
@@shotsal4482 It's still great but dont expect like CRAZY amount of relics
insanely well edited pve video and a really good build. good job man! the one thing i worry about though is if 25 agil is worth it over something like 90 fort post shrine for full reinforced armor, since conditioned doesn't do alot in diluvian and speed demon is minimal, regardless though this build has the honor of soloing the diluvian.
I'd rather be dead than have 0 agility on a build.
@@lolfoxmaster4870 fr
Stfu, let me have my agility 😭
@@lolfoxmaster4870sometimes you just gotta sacrifice to make a build do good in what its made for, you don't need that bleed damage bro, RA postshrine is really good to get that extra bit of tankyness to make up for the speed
@@kasu4639 reinforced armor is just not worth it on pve lol
Thumbnail is absolutely majestic
that thumbnail turnt me gay
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@@dojadeepwokenhad the same reaction
Gimme the bobbussy
"please do not forget heretic's"
meanwhile I have heretics but have only used it about three times in the past week
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0:59 for mantras
3:26 for talents
5:00 for stats
only few times i actually felt satisfied by someone's build, i actually managed to get that wave 50 diluvian solo with this build and im grateful for your job, keep cooking these builds
Monster armor is not needed but way smarter than fully stacking dvm.
Max dvm without monster armor is 64% (not counting echos) (counting drowned)
Max monster armor (37%) + high dvm is like 58% if my calculations are correct (not counting echos) (counting drowned)
hey uh so using this build i cant even get past wave 25. i have the exact same talents, exact same mantras all leveled up. the only thing i lack is corrupt payback, but i need to get to wave 25 to get it. any suggestions?
do f2 for miserables wish to reroll bell then put sinners ash on it and youre done easy
@@dukinio017kapogiannatos7 I do have payback, but dunno how to get sinner ash
@@uiabguiabwag sinner's ash can drop at wave 25 if you're able to get to those chests, just keep farming diluvian until you can get one and then you should be able to get to wave 50.
01:20 the transition is smooth
Should I be using prophets cloak or martial artist??
ignition deepdelver or black diver
I end up being 3 points off and shrine of mastery dosent work
Do i have to do the stats in that order or can i just put 30 str 30 int and do willpower and fortitude at the same time?
best guide / showcase ive EVER seen.. so entertaining and comprehensive
What software do you use to edit videos?
Is this build still viable? And if it is can you use shrine of mastery to make up for the race points?
great video and all but quick question, you say to get 1 frostdraw and THEN do shrine of order but whenever i start a playthrough i start with ten. is there a way to set it to 0 or am i just stupid for not realising that i need to start with 10 and just put 1 point into it?
u start off attunementless, then u escape depths to get frostdraw si it becomes 1 and not 10
Do you have to be Hesperian to make this build? Am saying this while being an adroit with 3 charisma and a failed build?
*Vesperian *Adret
says in desc which races it works with
Do we need to get frost after or can we just start off with it
what are all the other mantra modifers though like warden blades, ice carve, ice flock etc also what armour should i rock if i dont have tidekeeper
do we have to go up to the surface and get a frost draw potion for this to work cus if i spawn in with frost draw it only lets me get to 77 frost
Yes I made the same mistake LOL
idk if im dumb but this stat order doesnt work like, at all. I've been on the deepwoken builder trying to understand how you would be getting brick wall, when you are power 16 by all the points, and then shrine of order by adding the points into frost, heavy, and agility. And if you try and add the final points at end of the build you cant get enough heavy for the gran so I am lost. Only way it works, is if you remove 5 points off of int from the start but even then i dont see how it would be good.
disregard this, I forgot about investment points at the bottom I am slow
😭😭😭😭😭😭
does race matter? like if i’m running celtor with the 3 cha will it mess up the build?
Yh it does, look at the description for the races that work
hey what should i go for the like other stats should i go 6 vit 6 pro or 6 vit 6 song or 3 on everything
YO guys, just a heads up, this build doesnt work on Adret, it misses 2 points for the gran sudaruska
fr..?
@@reflection3066 At the time i commented, yes
How do you put only one point into frostdrww ir you start put with ten? Do we hqve to get it separately?
Im wiping my 50 year old m1 silentheart pve build because its sucks now and i want to try yours
please let me know but can i still use this build without the correct race? same with cna i also use it for layer 2 or other bosses?
im pretty sure you need vesperian
@muhammedpopoola3827 any race
@@Aæāěëæâ-yeatnah not every race any race with innate charisma can’t make the build
how do you 2 hand the gran sudaruska if you get the thing to be able to 2 hand at 40 heavy?
Do I have to go deepbound for this build
Is there anyway to put ice carve with round spark in the build? I rlly like the mantra and they say is very good in pve 😢
how do you get so many mantras if you want us to get frostdraw at power 16-17 but we need 6 frost mantras
What i do is i get mantras at first then when i shrind i reroll them
go do primadon and pray u get a moonseye thats what i did
@@Swazyisonyt orrr go ethiron
so the crystals are only used to push the mobs back, meaning I can choose either go that path or not, right?
edit: just asking for my casual pve build..
It pushing enemies away is more of a side buff, it’s mainly used cus of the higher dps
@@CrimsonKaido ok, ty
What other oath would work for this build? Or is getting dawnwalker *very* important?
Dawnwalker very impo
go blindseer if u dont wanna risk getting dawnwalker
what is 25 agility for? wouldnt it be better to get 25 charisma for tough love for another dmg multiplier
Speed demon
@@darkgrim209 thank you
@@mmfreshmeat2860it’s also just for speed in general. Getting space between you and monsters if you need to wait for a cooldown is better than being stuck in a crowd getting smacked
how am i supposed to get brick wall pre shrine when i cannot level up because my stats would become mess after shrine of order
Shrine of chance
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283 of course thank you i completely forgot other useful shrines exist
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283I want to die rn
I completely forgot about that and shrined without getting brickwall, but then I got wiped by some people and bought a last wind cuz I was not in the mood to prog allat again
I just wasted money...
I used shrine of Blasphemy to get 3 free level without affecting my stats, and then I shrine of ordered.
Why is his dawnwalker mantras white and mine rainbow?
This is a race based build since you cant get 30 int and 30 str at the same time on some race since it will miss out some stat for 30 weapon so yeah just get 25 int and not 30
just dont get conditioned runner and go 24 agility
@@Ademtror what if your gremor
how can he use a shield with a heavy weapon and only 22 strength post shrine?
and how do u get so many mantras when u shrine at 16lvl?
Fr
Get many first and reroll
@@vincentnguyen2548 how many do u get to reroll? Cuz u still got that library quest for the free mantra
@@johnomgerrossman4020 you can talk to some shrine to reroll mantra
is everchanging aegis really needed? im not sure if i wanna pick that one up lol, even though there are certain waves where mobs only have 1 specific element
Aegis isn't a necessary talent in my opinion, it's very situational
How should progress with 1 agility frostdraw and hvy????????
I just had a quick question, why not use icecarve? Icecarve basically lets you stay in the air till its duration.
how am i meant to get brick wall when you get 100 willpower and 100 fortitude halfway through level 16 and then you need to shrine, and the after shrining you go down to 75 each. how do i get extra talent hands pre-shrine?? 😒
You need to talk to mystic for human architecture tree and then use shrine of chance to roll for brick wall I did the same thing and had to wipe the build hope this helps
same
shrine of blasphemy methinks
For this build, is OK to use Gran Sudaruska 3 star weight?
So do i get my attunement up pre shrine? And if so what should it be?
No just get frost before shrining with the potion from nell
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Do I actually have to hit the mobs for when my friend carries me in diluvian or can i just afk while he does it?
You can just AFK
What outfit you use for diluvian?
How can that be possible to get all post shrine talents with just 4 powerups???? 😊
Am i meant to start with frost or go to the surface and prog it there?
Start attunementless and get the frost from potion dude. Maybe you can put the potion in the bank, if not u gotta go up
i missed the wyerns claw talent,but when i tried to use mystic it doesnt show the myrstic quote of it. do you know why?
It’s because it’s a rare
@@CrimsonKaido i cant get it when i reroll rare talents either,also i missed the full reset card,and in the mystic it doenst show the misscalleinous quote (i have bell and im level 20),do you know why? thank you for making a amazing build like this.
if i miss wyerns claw and full reset,do you think i could still solo?
hey i’m following this build, is it viable for pve outside diluvian such as for boses?
what shrine am i suppose to use after 100 fort and will?
it doesnt work
when i shrined my strent went to 24 not 22 and with the 1 point he said to put in agility for 25 agility now i am missing 3 points for gran
might be your race, not all races can use this build
no, you start attunementless and have to go get a glassblood potion
Is this also good for chaser/ethiron? Or is it only diluvian build
its good for chaser and decent for ethiron but u have to find u own way to deal with the insta kill
@@apljs alr thanks, btw instead of 6 vitality should I go for 6 proficiency or maybe 4 vit and 2 proficiency?
@@cypher0073 its not rly m1 based and the health could help in dulivian bc u only really need to m1 for ether and a lil dmg
@@apljs so my only race good for this is etrean, instead of going 23 agility should I just not put a point in agility and add the extra ones in frost? Cuz the max on agility for my race is just 24 I'm short in 1 point
Is it not good if I get frostdraw right after spawning? Cause I did
when i get 100 will and fort i still need 9 points to power up but i can do that cuz i need to do shrine of order so what am i supposed to do
why did bro not get giantslayer on the deepwoken builder link..?
bro how do i get brickwall i had all my stats and cards i kept using shrine of chance and even mystic and i still didnt get it???
I ask the same thing, maybe we need to do shrine of blasphemy but idk, don't think so
How do you only only out 1 point into frostdraw when you start with 10
You can choose attunementless and then go to the frost trainer and give him 5 frigid prisms and you unlock frostrdraw only 1. You do this so when you shrine of order, your stats will be a bit better. (Check wiki if some of the stuff I said don’t make sense)
@@JaronPalone oh alr thx
@@JaronPalone Wait so when do you use frigid prism for this build, can you use it right before you shrine, or do you use it straight away when ur starting the build. Cuz i want the frostdraw mantras, but if i use frigid prism right before i shrine, will i get all the mantras i need?
@@JTTrenoI can’t understand what your saying
@@sosuke8424 he's asking if you drink the frost potion as soon as you start or right before you shrine of order
What orgin do u have castle or the other??????????????????????????
what is the order for the build, is it just frost- ftd - will - strength and int?
he literally says in the order you must get lmao
when i get mantra hands do i roll 2 or do i choose mantras and reroll them later?
roll 2
@@zZzoien well how will i get the mantras later?
@@Ademtror shrine of tempation
@@zZzoien +shrine of unification
do you get ice by drinking the potion or do you start with it?
From what I see the build pre shrine says 1 frost so u gotta drink
is authority commander worth over ignition deepdelver tho?
About progs so when i hit 100 will i need to do shrine to get 2 legendary talents right? That will leave me no more knowledge for shirine of order
Bc the last time i level up my stat will me like 30str 30intel 100fort 95will so make it to 100 will and add 1 to agi and wep wont be enought to level uo
Just asking
This is the order I did, 30 strength and 30 intel in trial of one. Do the rest of the points while in trial to fort. That’s gets you to like 81. Then go to 100 fort. Get will to 100. You’ll be level 15 with 94 will. Get the remaining 6 points. You’ll be level 16. Put the one point in agility, frost, and heavy. Head to shrine of chance to get brick wall because reinforced armor you’ll get in a normal card hand progressing in this order. You’ll have enough knowledge (assuming you have maxed out starter knowledge) to shrine of order and have the ability to reroll two talents if need be.
"please do not forget heretics" and I still forgot it....
i remember when you would get made fun of for using wardens blades in any build, its kinda weird seeing everyone using it now
it can be used on like every build while has a free mantra slot because you can have an M1 build that isn't silentheart and use warden blades for nullifying clarity
with only 1 frostdraw
that's because mantras use to not do any extra pve damage
Can I use this build for layer 2 runs effectively?
why bulldozer? youre not gonna get a lot of value from it in diluvian right?
For the frost draw do I need to get it using the frostdraw potion?
do you?
Hey I don't understand how to make this build because when I get all the stats needed before shrining I need to put more than 1 point into agility, weapon and ice to power up and get brick wall
you have to use shrine of chance
What order do you do the stat points in??
For the mantras mods is it 3 of each material?
does this build work with the oath blindseer
If not going for dawnwalker, whats a good oath to use?
dawnwalker
Is this post pve nerf? I have 61 dvm, 21 monster armor + astral SH build but post pve nerf i need 2 hits for defult tresher
what's the pve nerf?
I keep wiping to the bounders and kyrsguards... What do I do? I think I'm just trash
this build require specific race guh bcuz of 1 missing point to equip gran ex: khan,capra idk if theres more
yeah me too with gremor
With khan you can equip the gran at 27 heavy
how do you get brickwall when u have 7 investment points left when u hit 100 will and 100 fort
Shrine of chance
shrine buddy
how am i supposed to do this build, the build is impossible because i cant get the 80 in frostdraw cuz i am shrine of ordering at lvl 17
Look at description and see the races
hey can you upload the exact build with the exact cards, bc the build in the description doesent have crystalization or lose your mind .
everytime u name a card can u name the stats and exact mystic for it guaranteed
so in the video you said to get carnivore but when i checkded in the builder it says to not get carnivore?? please just decide which one i should go
use carnivore, its alot better, and i replyed to this comment pretty late so you prob wont see this lol
tysm for this awesom vid man appreciat it rlly much
I only was able to get 75 frostdraw, is it still okay?
this didnt work i even put it in the build maker myself after and i only ended up with 77 frost like a week or two just for this bruh
Idk why but i did this build 3 times and wiped cuz i couldnt get piercing will, idk where the problem i did the stat order right and did everything and i still dont get wheres the problem
Use shrine of chance
@@Epeec64 you can't get piercing will or lose your mind from shrine of chance but dw I did the build after wiping 8 times cuz of pre shrine talents
How do you get the black and red vesperian mask?
hey crimson how many cycles does it take to defeat ethiron with this build?
3 cycels solo
Idk why, but every time i try and join the cord, it says invite expired. idk how im gonna make the build lowkey because i never did ethiron.
should I pick up 2 talents if there are no mantras that i want?
Yh if u want too
What about outfit? Prophets clock or ignition deepdelver?
some talents you talk about in the video are not in the builder link 😭🙏
( And you never mentioned what master armor to use)
he using black diver in the vid
@@mrtaxcollector9552 what about all the talents he's missing
idrk about that but you can just look at the video again to figure out the talents
@@mrtaxcollector9552if u have it send it to me
is there a oath u can replace dawnwalker with cause i cant do ethiron
Nope, dawnwalker is a must
@@CrimsonKaido im only using the build for chaser and bosses
I get 1 frost 1 heavy but need 7 agility so i can power up and get brick wall before shrine but if i do that i end up with 77 frost and I dont get how im meant to get brickwall and end with 77 frost at the same time
bro shrine of chance for brick wall dont stray away from the build to power up
should I go damage or pen on my gran suduruska
I accedetaly went 101 fortitude, should I wipe