They did allegedly, years ago, yet gamekeepers told hunts they couldn’t go here or here or here because of birds and jacked it more than the ban ever did. Now they face what hunting had to deal with for years and shooting is a far easier target due to the firearm legislation it’s a very short lifespan for shooting without hunting taking the wrap shooters you’ve reaped what you’ve sown
Sorry Charlie, but I stopped supporting BASC when for me they took away the legal insurance. it was done very underhand they said they asked the members. they lied i don't know a member who was asked.
If you want to resolve an issue with a water company you buy shares in the company and take the management to task at the AGM. If that doesn’t work you buy more shares and vote the management out and make it clear that shooting licenses be reinstated and if management want to be elected they need to make that happen.
United Utilities do as much harm as they do good... reaping massive profits selling Cumbrian water while supplying toxic sub-standard drinking water to the people of Cumbria - especially West Cumbria ..with their mixed borehole water which make people ill & they cant wash ,drink ,shower or wash their clothes normally without many problems.
I really wish there was a competitor to BASC they happily take our money but do nothing useless towards saving our sport. As for Duncan all he’s in it for his his free days shooting he gets. Absolutely useless the lot of them
Hi Charlie, really enjoyed listening to your interviews at the Game Fair. Good range of topics, interesting guests and good questions. The Fieldsports Britain team seemed like proper salt of the earth types. All the best.
He's a mentally unwell person with a personality disorder, I feel it best not to communicate with "him" he is an at risk person and is likely vulnerable in the community, I simply remove the comment and carry on with my day.
Just a small observation. Vinnie Jones and the rest of the team were quite correct in saying that it is up to country folk to educate the rest of us. There is obviously a great deal of effort to do this but, all of the good articles and information is published in interest magazines. To reach those who aren't a member of the country fraternity it would be better to release articles in more general publications, such as those on airlines, women's mags and the like. It is my opinion that there are a vociferous group who oppose countryside management and their actions sell news stories. Most people are ambivalent, mainly because they don't know why things are the way they are. They are the target group for informative articles. Publishing in general forms of media would allow them to stumble across information. Who knows they might even read it.
Thanks for this. That's the central argument for joining our membership group. Our show goes out on the public space that is RUclips. It is watched by hunting/shooting/fishing enthusiasts and those who are simply curious. We fund our news features via the Fieldsports Nation. / Charlie
The pigeon shooters in Manchester should sue the police as individuals as well as the constabulary... The problem is they won't.... We are only where we are because generations have been frightened of rocking the boat! Read you rights, man up and get a new better boat
The biggest thing holding you back is the killing of raptors on the grouse moors.....sort that out, ie take the losses from these birds and let them thrive and work out a way of making it still viable, or always come under fire.
Totally agree with you mr Doherty, the only way of doing it I think is leave the harriers etc alone and make the money people take smaller bags for the same money. I'm 100% in favour of countryside management and shooting to both provide food, sport and keep the balance right. I totally can't stand beautiful birds of prey being killed for the mega rich to have their so called sport. I know the moors need managing just like anywhere else but not in that way. People will tar all shooters with the same brush, that's my point.
Thanks for this. The trouble with the hen harrier persecution story is that it is an RSPB narrative. It is not true. It used to be true. The RSPB's own figures show that, while there were lots of convictions 20 years ago, they are now in the ones and twos per year. The main reason could be that, if you are caught, you lose your gun certificate. That's a huge risk.The RSPB makes claims about raptor disappearances but also points out that 75% of them die naturally in their first year. And then there's the success of the hen harrier brood management scheme - record numbers of hen harriers fledging on grousemoors. The RSPB refuses to take part. Do you accept this? / Charlie
Thanks for the reply and enlightening me on a subject I will admit I don't know all the ins and outs of. I'm a keen walker and wildcamper from Sheffield with the moors on my doorstep so this subject does interest me. When you say the prosecutions are massively down for persucution is that because the RSPB are not as efficient as they were 20 years ago or the actual offences are less? Somebody told me the other day they reported a hawk owner that had been mistreating the bird and the RSPB basically did f@#k all. To be honest I just love seeing the raptors out on my walks/camps. I also love the grouse and know they need careful management....nothing finer on a foggy day on the moors, nearly treading on one and it taking off from under your feet with that loud eerie call, it makes your blood run cold for a bit but in a good way!
So come on then Charlie what are your views on raptor persecution?? You know it takes place, on pheasant and partridge shoots not just grouse moors and I don't just mean Harriers im referring to Buzzards and Kites also. Your videos always gloss over this side of shooting and game keeping, be interesting to hear your views
Disclosure: I am American. Have at me as you will. To my eyes, what this boils down to, is quite simple. The UK is a densely population, highly urbanized place. The wide open space, which people like me take for granted, simply doesn't exist - at least to any extent that I would appreciate. For reference, my home state is larger than the whole of England and Wales combined. Population: 1,961,504 as of the most recent census. That scarcity of population and abundance of space combine to produce several effects. First, there is quite simply enough room to shoot firearms without posing danger or irritation to one's neighbors. Second, there is plenty of space for animals, both predator and prey. Third, isolation breeds a fierce sense of independence. When the nearest grocer is thirty miles away, it is a comfort to know protein is readily available in the form of deer, elk, pheasant, duck, and wild turkey. I grew up shooting. I gained a familiarity with firearms from a young age. To my mind, they are simply tools. Like any tool, they can be used properly and responsibly, or recklessly and dangerously. The key is respect, education, and proper instruction. As for game preservation or predator management, I can't speak to the challenges of rural Britain with any degree of expertise. My guess is that true apex predators like wolves and bears have been been extirpated almost completely. That leaves animals like badgers, foxes, and perhaps lynx. Speaking only for myself, I can't see any reason why a farmer or anyone else ought not be permitted to protect his livestock, pets, and children from such peril. The risk which shotgun poses to society at large is more than offset by the benefit to the farmer/rural dweller. Cheers from an American cousin.
Went right off James Marchington back in the 80's,when he told Airgun World Readers to "Dry Fire" their spring powered Air rifles,man's a complete clown.
Surely any personal n walking 2 or more fogs in the countryside would be at risk of prosecution of hunting with dogs if something flushed and the dogs instincts kicked in?🤔
When shooting has to take the same pressure that hunting has had to deal with for many many years already it will fold within an incredibly short space of time. Firearms laws alone make it impossible to run a shoot when sabs arrive on the scene. Hunting was the head of the spear, yet gamekeepers told them you can’t come as we have a shoot in three weeks time, gamekeepers short sight will cost them the industry. Long before the hunting ban shooting was huntings enemy not its Allie. Hunting people and shooting people are not the same breed. We use animals to see sport, if deaf occurs it’s a bye product, shooting is purely for killing by men that don’t have the skill or feel required to train a dog to hunt or ride a horse to follow it
I just wish you all had the same passion about losing your pass times and hobbies and dare I say sports when the people who hunted with dogs when under attack .But a lot of you said I don’t agree with hunting with dogs and it doesn’t concern us they will never ban our sports it brings to much money in and look who they are after now yes you lot .
I think many people DID realise it was the tip of the wedge and recall there being a big demo in London at the time. Sadly the spineless David Cameron rolled over regardless. It's fair to say that today all traditional rural pursuits are under attack and the people doing the attacking seem to base their views on emotions rather than facts, as per climate crazies. I recently rejoined the BASC but simply for the insurance. I may be wrong but they seem quick to capitulate on many issues, obviously the lead ammo issue, and now they seem to be accepting that shotguns will be elevated to firearm status. I have never met anyone that died of ingesting lead shot and sporting estates like Sandringham do not appear to be turning barren and strewn with sick wildlife. Likewise, criminals do not apply for a gun license. BASC should be defending our sport far more vigorously rather than what comes across as plea bargaining.
Sorry you think shooters didn't support hunting in the face of a ban. I marched to oppose it and many other shooters did too. It's not just that, though. We all have to keep our own houses in order, too, lest the uninformed and the ill-intentioned conclude that the lawbreakers caught on camera represent the norm rather than the exception.
@@juleswhicker I’m a working class guy among many others who followed the Michael Burns ban hunting bus all over the north west. And I was fighting for everyone who was connected with field sports myself who hunts with dogs and fishermen and shooters. And did I see any of them standing with me no I didn’t no toff’s no fisherman not many shooters. We even organised coaches to go to all the marches in London. So that’s why I’m angry now we should of all stuck together but some of you didn’t and still don’t divide and conquer that’s how the anti’s will win.
The Country culture in the UK is completely different than the USA. In Britain it is a very upper class lifestyle and it’s a far more universal pursuit in America. It’s very disappointing that the UK has become such an extremely anti-gun nation
‘The people don’t have a positive view’. What people? People in the countryside (where this occurs) are generally in favour. Stop listening to townies.
@@grahampeters ‘gun wielders’ in this country are some of the most closely scrutinised people you’ll ever meet (by the police on behalf of the Home Office). I would suggest to you that 99.9% of ‘gun wielders’ do more for the conservation of both flora and fauna than anti shooters realise is actually going on. Cruelty and destruction, as you put it, is against any shooting code of practice and is likely to result in the loss of a firearms licence hence anyone so idiotic is unlikely to have a licence in the first place.
Shooting, fishing, hunting and all other fieldsports need to unite as one association to fight the cause
They did allegedly, years ago, yet gamekeepers told hunts they couldn’t go here or here or here because of birds and jacked it more than the ban ever did. Now they face what hunting had to deal with for years and shooting is a far easier target due to the firearm legislation it’s a very short lifespan for shooting without hunting taking the wrap shooters you’ve reaped what you’ve sown
Here here Vinnie.Well said.I think landowners should take it on themselves to make their keepers keep it legal.
Sorry Charlie, but I stopped supporting BASC when for me they took away the legal insurance. it was done very underhand they said they asked the members. they lied i don't know a member who was asked.
Then the supporting lead ban... Now supporting moving shotguns to FAC. I'm cancelling membership now.
Yes we are not supporting them anymore, I know lots more who are not happy also, not fit for purpose
If you want to resolve an issue with a water company you buy shares in the company and take the management to task at the AGM. If that doesn’t work you buy more shares and vote the management out and make it clear that shooting licenses be reinstated and if management want to be elected they need to make that happen.
United Utilities do as much harm as they do good... reaping massive profits selling Cumbrian water while supplying toxic sub-standard drinking water to the people of Cumbria - especially West Cumbria ..with their mixed borehole water which make people ill & they cant wash ,drink ,shower or wash their clothes normally without many problems.
Seriously?! What planet are you living on? 😂
Yet again Charlie,boys. Another fantastic programme, and love it. Keep up the good work guys 😊❤👍🇬🇧
Great show Charlie, always impressed at your boundless enthusiasm in the face of such an onslaught of ignorant anti shooting bias.
I really wish there was a competitor to BASC they happily take our money but do nothing useless towards saving our sport. As for Duncan all he’s in it for his his free days shooting he gets. Absolutely useless the lot of them
Exellent show,should run instead as the rural life program, honesty,, integrity some other bbc program need to learn much from
Hi Charlie, really enjoyed listening to your interviews at the Game Fair. Good range of topics, interesting guests and good questions. The Fieldsports Britain team seemed like proper salt of the earth types. All the best.
@@grahampetershere’s the fart-sniffer again
Thanks. / Charlie
@@grahampeterssalt will do that Pete, it's why it's used as a weed killer 🤣🤣🤣
@@fieldsportstvHi Charlie, isn't it time you did some sort of a Pete Graham/ Graham Peters Tee shirt for your viewers🤣🤣🤣
He's a mentally unwell person with a personality disorder, I feel it best not to communicate with "him" he is an at risk person and is likely vulnerable in the community, I simply remove the comment and carry on with my day.
Just a small observation. Vinnie Jones and the rest of the team were quite correct in saying that it is up to country folk to educate the rest of us. There is obviously a great deal of effort to do this but, all of the good articles and information is published in interest magazines. To reach those who aren't a member of the country fraternity it would be better to release articles in more general publications, such as those on airlines, women's mags and the like. It is my opinion that there are a vociferous group who oppose countryside management and their actions sell news stories. Most people are ambivalent, mainly because they don't know why things are the way they are. They are the target group for informative articles. Publishing in general forms of media would allow them to stumble across information. Who knows they might even read it.
Thanks for this. That's the central argument for joining our membership group. Our show goes out on the public space that is RUclips. It is watched by hunting/shooting/fishing enthusiasts and those who are simply curious. We fund our news features via the Fieldsports Nation. / Charlie
@@fieldsportstv do you have an instagram or tiktok account. Might be worth finding a young person to put your side of the story across.
Nice idea on the 'hip pack' from Cluny.
Thankyou for being honest my brother! D
Ont stop speaking your truth
Sitting with my wife tonight and asked her what she wanted to do. Her answer? Stalk the stories and fish for facts! We love your show!!
🙂
Who even called the police? Some random anti?
And why did the police even turn up, let alone seize the guns?
Disgraceful
Had privilege of meeting this man at Wimbledon he sent champagne over to our table when he won with smoking bullet
Glad to have vinnie on our team
Great to see Dave knowls posting on here.
what ever happened to vinnie and the crafty countryman, used to really enjoy them videos
He has another country series coming up in the autumn. Hope he puts it on RUclips. / Charlie
Excellent 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
The pigeon shooters in Manchester should sue the police as individuals as well as the constabulary... The problem is they won't.... We are only where we are because generations have been frightened of rocking the boat!
Read you rights, man up and get a new better boat
HARDLEY ANYTHING THERE FOR AIR GUNNERS!!! WHERE WERE THE DEDICATED AIR GUN MANUFACTURERS!! THE AIR ARMS AND WEIHRAUCH STANDS ETC ETC!!??
The vorn hip shooting pack at the end I have to say is complete nonsense, another gimmick
I can assure you it’s no gimmick the Vorn hop pack does work ! And work well
The biggest thing holding you back is the killing of raptors on the grouse moors.....sort that out, ie take the losses from these birds and let them thrive and work out a way of making it still viable, or always come under fire.
Most shooters don't shoot driven game, and shouldn't face punitive action for the crimes of the elite.
Totally agree with you mr Doherty, the only way of doing it I think is leave the harriers etc alone and make the money people take smaller bags for the same money. I'm 100% in favour of countryside management and shooting to both provide food, sport and keep the balance right.
I totally can't stand beautiful birds of prey being killed for the mega rich to have their so called sport. I know the moors need managing just like anywhere else but not in that way.
People will tar all shooters with the same brush, that's my point.
Thanks for this. The trouble with the hen harrier persecution story is that it is an RSPB narrative. It is not true. It used to be true. The RSPB's own figures show that, while there were lots of convictions 20 years ago, they are now in the ones and twos per year. The main reason could be that, if you are caught, you lose your gun certificate. That's a huge risk.The RSPB makes claims about raptor disappearances but also points out that 75% of them die naturally in their first year. And then there's the success of the hen harrier brood management scheme - record numbers of hen harriers fledging on grousemoors. The RSPB refuses to take part. Do you accept this? / Charlie
Thanks for the reply and enlightening me on a subject I will admit I don't know all the ins and outs of. I'm a keen walker and wildcamper from Sheffield with the moors on my doorstep so this subject does interest me. When you say the prosecutions are massively down for persucution is that because the RSPB are not as efficient as they were 20 years ago or the actual offences are less? Somebody told me the other day they reported a hawk owner that had been mistreating the bird and the RSPB basically did f@#k all.
To be honest I just love seeing the raptors out on my walks/camps. I also love the grouse and know they need careful management....nothing finer on a foggy day on the moors, nearly treading on one and it taking off from under your feet with that loud eerie call, it makes your blood run cold for a bit but in a good way!
So come on then Charlie what are your views on raptor persecution?? You know it takes place, on pheasant and partridge shoots not just grouse moors and I don't just mean Harriers im referring to Buzzards and Kites also. Your videos always gloss over this side of shooting and game keeping, be interesting to hear your views
Disclosure: I am American. Have at me as you will.
To my eyes, what this boils down to, is quite simple. The UK is a densely population, highly urbanized place. The wide open space, which people like me take for granted, simply doesn't exist - at least to any extent that I would appreciate. For reference, my home state is larger than the whole of England and Wales combined. Population: 1,961,504 as of the most recent census.
That scarcity of population and abundance of space combine to produce several effects. First, there is quite simply enough room to shoot firearms without posing danger or irritation to one's neighbors. Second, there is plenty of space for animals, both predator and prey. Third, isolation breeds a fierce sense of independence. When the nearest grocer is thirty miles away, it is a comfort to know protein is readily available in the form of deer, elk, pheasant, duck, and wild turkey.
I grew up shooting. I gained a familiarity with firearms from a young age. To my mind, they are simply tools. Like any tool, they can be used properly and responsibly, or recklessly and dangerously. The key is respect, education, and proper instruction.
As for game preservation or predator management, I can't speak to the challenges of rural Britain with any degree of expertise. My guess is that true apex predators like wolves and bears have been been extirpated almost completely. That leaves animals like badgers, foxes, and perhaps lynx. Speaking only for myself, I can't see any reason why a farmer or anyone else ought not be permitted to protect his livestock, pets, and children from such peril. The risk which shotgun poses to society at large is more than offset by the benefit to the farmer/rural dweller.
Cheers from an American cousin.
Thanks & well said. / Charlie
Went right off James Marchington back in the 80's,when he told Airgun World Readers to "Dry Fire" their spring powered Air rifles,man's a complete clown.
Surely any personal n walking 2 or more fogs in the countryside would be at risk of prosecution of hunting with dogs if something flushed and the dogs instincts kicked in?🤔
what has happened to the Midland Game Fair? it ended the season with a bang. I believe it's been canceled for 2023.
Basc has no interests in supporting us
Dent sen. Midnight. Sarkici
When shooting has to take the same pressure that hunting has had to deal with for many many years already it will fold within an incredibly short space of time. Firearms laws alone make it impossible to run a shoot when sabs arrive on the scene.
Hunting was the head of the spear, yet gamekeepers told them you can’t come as we have a shoot in three weeks time, gamekeepers short sight will cost them the industry.
Long before the hunting ban shooting was huntings enemy not its Allie.
Hunting people and shooting people are not the same breed. We use animals to see sport, if deaf occurs it’s a bye product, shooting is purely for killing by men that don’t have the skill or feel required to train a dog to hunt or ride a horse to follow it
I just wish you all had the same passion about losing your pass times and hobbies and dare I say sports when the people who hunted with dogs when under attack .But a lot of you said I don’t agree with hunting with dogs and it doesn’t concern us they will never ban our sports it brings to much money in and look who they are after now yes you lot .
I think many people DID realise it was the tip of the wedge and recall there being a big demo in London at the time. Sadly the spineless David Cameron rolled over regardless. It's fair to say that today all traditional rural pursuits are under attack and the people doing the attacking seem to base their views on emotions rather than facts, as per climate crazies. I recently rejoined the BASC but simply for the insurance. I may be wrong but they seem quick to capitulate on many issues, obviously the lead ammo issue, and now they seem to be accepting that shotguns will be elevated to firearm status. I have never met anyone that died of ingesting lead shot and sporting estates like Sandringham do not appear to be turning barren and strewn with sick wildlife. Likewise, criminals do not apply for a gun license. BASC should be defending our sport far more vigorously rather than what comes across as plea bargaining.
So y is it us as hunters sporting countryside folk marched in London?
Sorry you think shooters didn't support hunting in the face of a ban. I marched to oppose it and many other shooters did too. It's not just that, though. We all have to keep our own houses in order, too, lest the uninformed and the ill-intentioned conclude that the lawbreakers caught on camera represent the norm rather than the exception.
@@juleswhicker I’m a working class guy among many others who followed the Michael Burns ban hunting bus all over the north west. And I was fighting for everyone who was connected with field sports myself who hunts with dogs and fishermen and shooters. And did I see any of them standing with me no I didn’t no toff’s no fisherman not many shooters. We even organised coaches to go to all the marches in London. So that’s why I’m angry now we should of all stuck together but some of you didn’t and still don’t divide and conquer that’s how the anti’s will win.
@@grahampeters Bull 💩
The Country culture in the UK is completely different than the USA. In Britain it is a very upper class lifestyle and it’s a far more universal pursuit in America. It’s very disappointing that the UK has become such an extremely anti-gun nation
‘The people don’t have a positive view’. What people? People in the countryside (where this occurs) are generally in favour. Stop listening to townies.
@@grahampeters good for you .
@@grahampeters Move back to town then.
@@grahampeters ‘gun wielders’ in this country are some of the most closely scrutinised people you’ll ever meet (by the police on behalf of the Home Office). I would suggest to you that 99.9% of ‘gun wielders’ do more for the conservation of both flora and fauna than anti shooters realise is actually going on. Cruelty and destruction, as you put it, is against any shooting code of practice and is likely to result in the loss of a firearms licence hence anyone so idiotic is unlikely to have a licence in the first place.
@@grahampetersHi Pete, did you ever think to yourself that you maybe resort so easily to insult because you have weak arguments? 🤔🤣🤣🤣
@@grahampeters, live there or born there?
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Try reform party a new look
I like you Vinnie but before you had money, you were a 'townie' as well. Money's gone to your head, bruv.
jobs for the boys.
Seni yerine. Dehşet. Tren
Beni yapacam. Midnight.
Yutfen. Cevapbi acık. Elif. Dolcu
Elif. Benimle. Taşımak.
Yutfen. Kahve. İcinyen. Gel
A game fair on my doorstep but what a disappointment completely under impressed.
lets face it the goverment dont want farming in this country.
Gundeler. Elif