Postmodernism - Postmodern Worldview
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- Postmodernism. The Postmodern Worldview is difficult to define, because to define it would violate the postmodernist's premise that no definite terms, boundaries, or absolute truths exist. In this article, the term postmodernism will remain vague, since those who claim to be postmodernists have varying beliefs and opinions on issues.
Are nationalism, politics, religion, and war the result of a primitive human mentality? Is truth an illusion? How can Christianity claim primacy or dictate morals? The list of concerns goes on and on especially for those affected by a postmodern philosophy and lifestyle. For some, the questions stem from lost confidence in a corrupt Western world. For others, freedom from traditional authority is the issue. Their concern centers around the Wests continued reliance on ancient and traditional religious morals, nationalism, capitalism, inept political systems, and unwise use and adverse impact of promoting trade offs between energy resources and environment, for economic gain.
To the postmodernist, the Western world society is an outdated lifestyle disguised under impersonal and faceless bureaucracies. The postmodernist endlessly debates the modernist about the Western society needing to move beyond their primitiveness of ancient traditional thought and practices.
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While there are significant disagreements among the various expressions of the postmodern worldview there is a key belief that characterizes all of them: an acute awareness of our situatedness as humans. postmoderns deny that there is any overarching story, or metanarrative, to the world. Therefore, we all come from a perspective, or bias, that is shaped by the culture, or the little stories, we inhabit. This is the clearest difference between postmodernism and most other worldviews. Whereas the central concern of other worldviews is what the real world actually is, the focus of postmodernism is on how we perceive and how we describe what the world is.
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Post modernism is completely ironic. To say there are no concrete truths is in itself a concrete statement, hence the irony.
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There is no such thing as absolute truth... Are you absolutely sure about that?
***** You in most cases you can't know what absolute truth is, however you can know for absolute certainty that they do exist, simply because for them to not exist is contradictory.
***** Well then your statement must by default be false and therefore I have no grounds by which to accept your philosophy.
***** Is it true that the truth is just what you think in your mind? The problem is labeling things a "Concept" is that concepts represent something that does exist. Cars are a concept, does that mean that cars don't exist? If I have two rocks, and then I have two more rocks, I now have four rocks. That is called the truth because that is the way it is. The truth is a word we use to describe things that are objective. Truth being a concept does not make the things it's applied to unreal. "But we don't know for sure that reality exist, we could just be in a coma" Well, if the reality we see isn't real, and we're all in the matrix, then the truth would be that we're all in the matrix. And if the new reality is itself a matrix, then the truth would be that that is not true, and so forth and so on. The problem with trying to disprove the existence of truth is that you not only disprove yourself in doing so, but no matter what alternative path you go down such as "What if we're in a coma" will ultimately just lead to another truth. Did you use your mental perception to come to the conclusion that there is no truth? No matter what angle you look at it, relativism contradicts itself.
***** Why are you using words and sentences right now? They're not real, they're not tangible and therefore they do not exist. You miss the point. The point is that "Truth" is a word to describe things that are real and objective. When most people say that truth does not exist, what they mean is that nothing fits the description of being true. Or there is no object to match the concept. Because there is object to match the concept, truth is therefore real.
Are you sure about you doubting if I am absolutely sure?
Wow! This is a tremendous help. The textbook I'm reading in my class is really hard to follow when it comes to this topic. You're video really brought everything together for me. Great job!!! Totally love the video!!!
The explanation is amazing. It isn't just theoretical but nicely illustrated across disciplines. Thanks for sharing.
2:58 you are unequivocally wrong: interventionism is the hallmark of modernism, it is everything that post modernism is not
2:52 active intervention for social justice and (particularly) the idea of leveling the playing field are communist ideas, and communism/socialism is the height of modernism, which is basically the opposite of post modernism
etc.
So basically everything past the 2:45 mark is wrong
For clarification, modernism is the notion of "the triumph of the human intent", i.e. I change things and make them better (re: communism, interventionism); post modernism is the skepticism of the human ability, and acknowledging the fact that we don't know wtf we are doing.
it just means that in a pluralistic sense, it basically means that theres no concrete truths with in a full society, that individuals can-and will-form their own opinions, hence what it means by saying there are no concrete truths.
Great explanation of POST MODERNISM in a nutshell.
Even the statement: Nothing can be defined, may not be postmodern. If it was impossible to define something, then saying so would be like saying: Nothing can be jabbywooed. It wouldn't mean anything because "defined" would be just as indefinable as everything else.
Very informative and well structured video.
Great summary of postmodern thought....it matters shit if he's religious or not. I'm atheist and find his video very helpful
Modernism believes in technology and science to progress, order, structure, logic, they have genres and definitions for things. Postmodernism also believes in technology and science to progress but for some postmodernists progress is not necesarily a good thing; postmodernism is eclectic, they don't have a system, for them, things are what you make them to be, they don't believe in standards or labels, what's good for a person or society is not good for the other.
Watching this should qualify us for a college credit in their Postmodernism 101 course. Good Video!
Great Summary
I wouldn't say postmodernism would say: Reality is what you make of it, because that statement STILL keeps the "you." Basically there is a you, and it's what makes everything else. This is a kind of "hidden objectivism" that postmodernism would feel obligated to call into question.
Excellent! Thank You!
interesting. been doing some research on postmodrnism today. thanks!
@FeelingFreshSon what would the appeal be?
Very well explained Sir.
IMO, Post Modernism is the core as to why politics in the USA has become so toxic.
Traditional right wing (Republican) and left wing (Democrat) politics in the USA and to some extent in Europe offered differing view points on how to achieve Classical Liberal goals and society.
In the past 20 or so years, the modern left has largely walked away from Classical Liberal ideals, and has adopted post modernism as its primary basis. The modern right still supports the classical liberal stance and goals.
What used to be a dialectic of differing viewpoints among a shared philosophy has become a battle between largely opposed schools of philosophy. This helps explain why each side has trouble understanding each others language.
Many classical liberals have noted feeling left behind by the Democratic Party. #Walkaway is an example of people feeling this way. Many are turning independent, joining minor parties or joining the Republicans though they can't quite point why. In the USA the Republican party is evolving to become the standard bearer for all classical liberals and conservatives, despite differing traditional view points on how to achieve a classical liberal society.
The modern left is welcoming in people from areas of the world that never held classical liberalism in high esteem. It also has become entrenched in academia where classical liberalism and its roots in classical studies are being diminished.
The changes in thoughts and beliefs has outpaced the political and legal dialectic and conversation.
>The modern left is welcoming in people from areas of the world that never held classical liberalism in high esteem. It also has become entrenched in academia where classical liberalism and its roots in classical studies are being diminished.
maybe that's because classical liberalism is rooted in a flawed form of utilitarian thought and ignores the prominence of a progressing class conflicts in history for the past 4000 years of human history
Great short explenation,thanks.
Aren't "justice" and "fairness" just social constructs?
My interpretation-Totally Relativistic ethics and Active Constructionism, we can create what ever constructs that we want and in this day and age we get to do it knowingly and not blindly.
Before you go: YAY! Let's have fun and invent all these new constructs remember this doesn't mean no consequences. Of course whether the consequences even matter or not is itself a construct.
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Hari
Some claim there is no postmodernism because it is too vague to identify. But there is a basic line: they are relativists and nihilists, of which Sokrates defeated the first and Nietzsche heavily warned against the second.
One judges a tree by its fruit, so seeing the practical effects of postmodern thought patterns, it is the ugly face of nihilism and relativism.
It is a hypocritical position where one claims some truth (everything is narratives) but evades being responsible for it.
If everything is narratives then so is anything said by them, so why listen? And why speak if it just a narrative?
Thank You!
A good presentation of post-modernism.
very good presentation. thanks for sharing your views about postmodernism.
Postmodernism is where we get the self refuting statements like: There are no absolutes!
What I find interresting, that in matthew, It says that one day the world will become godless, (that was writen over 2000 years ago)... yet shall we question on what is happenning all around us today?? when we look arround our selves...
awesome! your interpretation of postmodernism clarified my doubt on the meaning of postmodernism.
of influencing outcomes in human social actions (including and particularly in this case government actions) in the future towards the outcome of no more slavery.
post modernism rejects itself by definition of what post modernism is
So good. Helped me out a lot.
could anybody pls tell me the difference between modernism and postmo ?
55 minute lecture or 4 minute summary? Thank you sir
Who am I to say? Who am I? An active participant in society. There's nothing absolute or objective about my worldview but there's nothing absolute or objective about respecting other worldviews either though it may be and often is according to the typical constructs people use beneficial in relation to those constructs to just "live and let live" but it's not a requirement. For example, the mainstream worldview in Mauritania is that it's OK to own slaves. There's nothing absolute or objective...
@dougiehandford But it's ironic because merely by saying that there are no concrete truths and that EVERYONE's opinion is somehow valid IS a concrete statement.
Someone forgot that the bible is often studied, not as a literal document, but by using Hermeneutics. Hemeneutics are updated meanings to biblical passages for today's church goer. They’ve been a part of religious teachings since before the Gutenberg Bible. Does that mean that the bible is vague and ambiguous? Post Modernism implies that Rationalism has broken down. Errors are piling up and it has nothing to do with any religion. It is a response, thoughtful & intentional, not a ‘reaction’.
Hodge podge of the past, present and maybe futurism. Take Corinthian columns made of stainless steel and glass as just an example for architcture.
Awesome Job!! That was my view as a postmodernist. So sad I believed that crap.
Would it be fair to say that post modernists, though skeptical of religious points of view, would prefer a secular society that embraces no particular religion. That is to say, the US is a nation largely made up of Christians, but is not a Christian nation? Or Turkey, a nation of Muslims but not an Islamic nation?
Loved this video, awesome understanding of the term and explaination!
Mostly we apply rigid methods like statistics. Postmodernists don't believe in "dumb stuff" like statistics. They do however believe any person they interview (the favorite postmodern method) as long as that person says exactly what they believe to be true in the first place. Anyone saying anything else + anyone being an economist is to be subject to "critical" analysis and "deconstruction" meaning their insights are wrong. Tsk.
If I really feel that postmodernism is false then it must be false. Who is the postmodernist to intervene in my world view?
Very informative. Postmodernism and political correctness have had a very ugly progeny....the feeling driven movement. #atraitorwithin
as I understood wat he said, his whole notion of postmodernism excluding god or obsoleting god isnt al the way true is it? I mean if the idealogy is that reality is relative and if u feel like things are real and have an effect , then they are. It sounds like that would also extend to ones beliefs or feelings about god.....
I think post-modernistic world is going the wrong way...
@itsVINCEC He's actually pretty damn accurate in his description of postmodernism. Sure, there may be a bias because he works for a group affiliated with religion, but that doesn't mean you can immediately take whatever he says and discard it because of one specific aspect of his personality. This talk was practically devoid of religion except in describing it, in the postmodern sense, as unnecessary, which is true.
Stop being reactionary for the sake of being reactionary.
In the end postmodernism even undermines itself.
I think the people who coined the term "modernism" and "post-modernism" were all a bag of... well, I can't use the word because I want to respect you.
At least the Victorian Era or the Colonial Era and other terms that could describe a period were fixed in time. But we are always modern, and someone went and locked that to a period in history.
Postmodernism starts to describe nothing because it describes everything.
1:33 you're saying post-modernism while you mean socialconstructivism no? Cause then again at 1:45 you say "whereas post-modernists..."
post modernism seems a lot like existentialism.
In a sense, it is, we are the sole authors of our own story!
modern - never believe in spiritualism, but more to scientific reason. Postmodernism - going back to spiritualism, yet not necessarily believing in God. Modern is when they have lost the touch of spiritual sensation, while postmodernism is more searching the spiritual touch and sensation. This we will find a mixture and has no end, no rules, no limit, no foundation, no absolute truth, no definition in what is right and wrong, confusion of genders, gray area, THE UNSURE OF EVERYTHING
Imagine how simple minded and ultimately blind humans must seem to thier Creator.. like if we made clay dolls and they started having these conversations about the doll house they live in and decided they don't really live in a dolls house, they are not clay beings, they are not constrained by any means and they have ultimate power to decide what they are or not.... as we watch, with amusement..
You sir, are a god. Of that I am sure. Very well explained . :)
no absolute truths exist is an absolute truth. but this doesn't refute postmodernism. because postmodernism doesn't talk about this kind of metaphysical bullshit in the first place. also, postmodernists can be socialists (like me). but most of the stuff in this video is pretty good, quite to the point.
Weeeell. Postmodernism kind of is a reaction to objective values, which one more easily connects with religion. For some people atheism would lead to nihilism and postmodernism... or so it seems.
...that makes that wrong.
BUT there's nothing absolute or objective that would make it wrong for the international community to go in and enforce abolition of slavery either. And I choose as my own worldview that that is in fact exactly what we should do, because from my perspective I don't like slavery and think there's enough people in the world who also don't like slavery that if I push my point of view that international intervention should abolish slavery if necessary that this has a chance
Hey genius, you just proposed an absolute truth.
so postmodernism is like the opposite of existentialism??
@eragon2121 i know what you mean, and post modernism does not depute this, however this part of the argument is often taken out of the intended context-such as in this video-hence the apparent hypocrisy :)
1.) The claim that reality is ultimately inaccessible and unknowable is hardly new, many of the "modern" philosophers (as if they were all unified in doctrine...) are of this opinion (Locke's "that I know not what," and Kant's "=X" come to mind).
2.) I shudder to think that they have made unclear thought a virtue, and it is probably why so many younger philosophy students can't make or understand basic arguments.
3.) It sounds like a knock-off of Wilhelm Dilthey's Weltanshauung Philosophie.
Basically, what I think is right is right, and you cannot say that I'm wrong. There is no absolute truth in this belief. This is the belief that God does not exist, because he is absolute truth.
Are atheists not suppose to get insulted or something?
not that i necessarily disagree with you but what about the more complicated issues? Specifically ethical ones. It is wrong to kill someone who is suffering. It is wrong to steal bread even if your starving. It is wrong to have engage in promiscuous sex etc...
@TheEdge012 Hahaha yeah.
Thats a good one!
I knew this was a christian video the moment I saw that guy with the disturbing church smile on his face.
NearVSMello haha, I knew something wasn't right.
"Who's to say they're wrong?" Uh...me. They're wrong. So wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
It sounds an awful lot like "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" doesn't it.
This is water.... This is water
You're basing your "truths" on what you already know, but how do you know what you know is true?
A square is not and cannot be a triangle. Isn't that an absolute truth that can be proven? Postmodernism, heh.
You establish your own truths, but then again none of those truth are universal. And universality is rejected.
What am I saying!? Lol
there is no unified view in postmodernism! this guy totally contradicts his own explanation. says they cant be defined then goes on tomake generalizations about them that dont make sense
And to think...I used to think/feel this kind of garbage was accurate and true.
Am I the only one who thinks this dude is a mega hottie? mmm.
mmmmmmm sorry but this guy completely missed the point.
Read some Kant
wow it sounds like what demokkkrats preaches.
Fuck I still don't get Postmodernism as a whole.
harryclarkhulk ...what good post-modernism gives you is that reality is ultimately what we make of it, so we are free to shape it as we wish... side-effects may include nihilism and/or confusion
The question will be then what is men his interpretation of God