the community is killing smite 2
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- After a few months of Smite 2 being released in alpha, here are my thoughts about the evolution of the game so far
This is not SMITE 2 gameplay since I can't play it anymore (the game keeps crashing on launch for me)
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It's an alpha. People can be frustrated & stuff with the bugs but I don't think people realize what alphas really are anymore. People expect SMITE 2 to be as "clean" & "polished" as SMITE 1 & SMITE 1 still has tons of bugs. Complain about them & let the devs know but be realistic.
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@@ITSRICHTIMEno one’s doing that. Buy it or don’t, the fact you’re complaining about having the OPTION to play or not
no people understand what alphas are thats LITERALLY WHY they are upset. alphas are unfinished products that almost ALWAYS require no payment. its also not marketed as a finished game that you can leave the original youve been playing for 10 years or whatever for. also these are pro gamers also complaining they dont know ether? only you know what an alpha is? lol. no. hirez knew what they were doing its also why they havent responded to these claims.
Smite 1 hasn’t gotten an update in 9 months stfu
deadlock is not even in alpha yet and it completely and utterly shits on smite 2 in every way possible. I feel bad for smite players for real because deadlock is going to take a lot of your players.
The devs are killing smite 2, never blame the community for shit like this, if the devs made a good game and listened to their fans than the game would be fine
Overwatch 2 did the same shit smite 2 is doing and failed horribly, I don’t get why Hi-Rez thought this was the move in any way. It should’ve just been an engine update with all of the same content
@@oldylad bringing up overwatch 2 immediately makes your argument invalid. "should have been an engine update". Yeah you mean the engine "update" that would require them to make a new game? because the engine smite 1 uses is over a decade old? because its not an inhouse engine? because they cant easily hire people due to the archaic engine? Yeah i agree they should just update the engine lol.
@@oldyladnot exactly the same thing, unreal 3-5 is big leap and itll pay off in the long run, the game is fine
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 did anyone even ask for smite 2 ? Meh whatever deadlock is here and its 100 times better.
Yeah, I just fundamentally disagree with just about everything this woman said. A game's primary focus should be on balance in performance. For her to say she doesn't care about balance. Or changing that just seems like she should have stayed on smite one or quit
A game's primary focus should be on fun. Item balance can be changed whenever, what matters now if the gameplay is fun, and that new players (that have no idea about balance) will stick around. You can have perfect balance, but if people dont have fun or cant get into the game then the playerbase won't grow. And this game will be as dead as smite 1
6:00 i agree with you so much. ive been playing this game since pre alpha 12 years ago, ive been watching pros since. The complaints a lot of pros have are so different from what the game needs for a casual player base. Alot of their complaints matter to 5% of the community IF THAT, when the people who fund and create smites value are literally the casual players who feel nothing towards updates past skins. And i play smite pretty competitively, but the average player doesn't. The average player wants a pretty game with content they haven't experienced yet. and smite 2 is far from that
They need all kind of feedback but the priorities are all wrong imo
Smike 2 cash grab was killed by the devs and deadlock
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gotta love how community dissatisfaction can be so impactfull those days on any game image , TitanForge = Ubisoft on a smaller scale ?
I played one game of smite 2 and immediately went back to smite 1. It doesn’t feel like smite nor is it good in my opinion. Feels like a downgrade which is craaaazy
Hopefully we will see improvement
As someone outside the Smite community that got this video randomly recommended all I can say is that I pray on SMITE 2's downfall so Hi-Rez can make Tribes: Ascend 2
Smite is trying to survive as a moba. Increasing total community playtime helps achieve that. Things that don't dramatically improve total community playtime are new builds that yield fancy playstyles, great graphics, and performance enhancements. Those eventually fail when matchmaking fails to keep players in flow or when people leave due to community hostility. Smite 2's vision seems unclear to me, because smite's survival depends on solving the painfully hard matchmaking and community behavior problems much more than most distracted effort outcomes smite2 currently plans to offer.
I imagine Smite 1, but with nonviolent, inclusive, multi-generational, constructive language normalized in the community and matchmaking that bars disappointment regardless of win status because the match was that engaging, so that players stay in flow whenever they play. I could imagine smite surviving as a moba if that happened. Smite 1 and Smite 2 as is? Right now, i'm afraid i really can't.
I think you're right, criticism need to be listened especially if it constructive. Personaly I feel like right now, the game feel good to play, very similar to Smite 1, it look fine for an alpha and I don't get frustrated by any bugs. But few weeks ago it was less smooth, the settings issue was annoying too. Currently, it's fine, I'm optimistic for its future, think it's gonna take time but it's going the right way in my opinion.
I don't mind the legacy gems, I think it would have been fine if they weren't there, it's just a bonus for me. I think people need to realise Smite is a live service game and all items bought on it were bound to disappear, especially with no Smite 2 plan. Atleast now we get extra time on Smite 1 and we won't be leaving it without anything.
I just can't wait for Assault personaly :D Most of my main gods are already there, just missing Sobek, Thor, Hercules... but I feel like they might be coming soon like in two months
I was caught very off guard with the Smite 2 announcement, didn't expect it or hear about it before it was public, really glad they gave a second life to a game I have played too much and I hope it's going to be a success, atleast as much as Smite 1. I think we just need to be patient and keep sharing our opinions, hopefully it will be heard by the proper ears :p
PS : I haven't seen a cat in this video, major disappointment.
Outrageous that thor isn't there yet lmao I also love assault a lot but I hope the game feels well polished before they think about adding more game modes.
(sorry I let you down, I will bribe the cats next time)
As someone that stopped playing smite and stopped consuming most content surrounding it, from bits that I have seen from now the sidelines it definitely feels that if you say something you don't like people immediately go on the defensive, which for me is weird, if you love the game and want it to become better, be open to what people dont like (talking about actual criticism, not "this game sucks")
Great video!
It's been like that with smite 1 but even more with smite 2 I think which is a shame indeed :(
When it came to smite 1, i was hooked and spent like 6k+ hours on it. Got an email to try smite 2 with a key on PS5. Something felt very off to me. I got bored in the match after 10 minutes even, tho i popped off. Can't figure out why i didn't enjoy it, but it felt like it lacked soul with its gameplay in comparison
I want to play a game with good graphics, smooth gameplay, fair matchmaking, and lastly a fun environment that keeps me coming back. Smite and Smite2 are falling short on different aspects.
Last patch they did a lot of performance improvements, but there still something on the arena map that makes it laggy, conquest it's ok tho. I would really like them to add DLSS and FSR as soon as possible. Graphically they improved the shadows, but some of the grass textures are kinda weird. I agree with you about the balance thing, the builds don't matter this much at the current state of the game. They also fixed a lot of gameplay and UI bugs, there is actually a trello where u can see all the issues they are working on rn. About the founder pack, you actually don't need to spend money in order to play the game, hirez is giving away a lot of keys. I don't get why would u not like the legacy gems system, we aren't losing anything, it's a bonus, a plus. I think we just need to be patient. I also think u shouldn't stop saying what u think about the game, if you really care about the game and want to help develop it, u should discuss with your community, find some people that you can have a good conversation with, explain and learn some things. Stay away from jerks like Weaken and others "content creators" that only talk shit to get views.
I give feedback in the forms and wherever I can, but I avoid those "community" feedbacks as much as I can. Unfortunate that we can't really use those outlets but oh well
Smite 1 and 2 have one problem: game doesn't teach you how to play, that is it. And matchmaking is ugly.
Please, just tell me, what does Smite 2 offer compared to 1 right now? The build system? (which is completely unbalanced?), the graphics? Which we can argue if I prefer Smite 1 or 2, I honestly don't like 2 a lot, seems like plastic, I dont know how to describe it. So at the end of the day, what I can see is they got so greedy, idk. Also, this Alpha began with 10k users (Steamdb), now it can barely reach 2k (again, you can see all of this in Steamdb). So, right now, Smite 1 is losing players day by day, and they are not going to Smite 2. So who do we blame here, community or Hi-Rez? Cause obviously, right now, people are losing interest day by day as I said, both in Smite 1 and 2, that's a fact everyone can check.
When did you start playing smite?
@@CardiacGolem I don't know what that has to do with the fact that Smite 1 lost 4k users the last 30 days and didn't go to Smite 2, cause no one is playing it, but I play Smite since 2013.
I hope everyone is extremely harsh on all other alphas not just smite 😊
The company is ruining smite.
There’s a Smite 2??
Salut!
Ta vidéo je suis vraiment d'accord que bon, hirez est pas la meilleure compagnie pour écouté les gens et que souvent les opinions sont ignoré. Ce que j'aime pas par contre, après avoir dit que tous les opinions compte, tu dis que tout le monde s'en fou de (balance of the game) avec les items ou les dieux.
Autant que je suis en accord avec toi qu'en Alpha, la balance du jeu ne devrait pas être important, Le seul problème est qu'en ce moment il y a les qualifications pour vegas et le tournois de 300k. Hirez s'est tiré une balle dans le pied en forcant la balance du jeu vu le tournois.
Aussi, faut se dire que la grosse part de markting du jeu provient des ex-pro players donc c'est normal que la balance du jeu devien une priorité. Pas mal, sur que s'il y avait pas eu de tournois, personne aurait pris en compte la balance du jeu en compte et que tout le monde aurait s'en fouterais
Encore une mauvaise décision de hirez
Désolé si je suis un peu plus dur à comprendre que le français normal. Je suis Québécois donc je m'excuse d'avance :')
C'est vrai que j'aurais peut être du mieux expliquer, mais c'est une question de priorités a mon avis. Malgré la scène compétitive qu'ils déploient maintenant, il y a, a mon avis, des choses qui auraient dû prendre le pas sur la balance etc
@@Pattedevelours Totalement d'accord, et la majorité des gens qui joue dans le tournois disent que ça devrait pas arriver
Faire un tournois dans une Alpha est une mauvaise blague. Les gens qui ne joue pas au jeu vont trouver sa ridicule bref.
Effectivement la priorité devrai être plus de dieu et changer les modes de jeux
So I have been with HiRez and Smite since early Beta for Smite 1. I am super happy that they are creating Smite 2. I do believe that there are a bunch of updates and patches and bugs that need fixed and balanced. I think the issue that HiRez has is the fact that they show "favoritism" to certain content creators. They take THEIR opinion over everyone else or at least weigh it more. I truly hope that they take any and all feedback that ANYONE who has PURCHASED Smite 2 and applies those correctly. I DO think that certain content creators for the game need to slow their role and think about the community as a whole instead of "gatekeeping" and thinking about what THEY want added to the game. If you listen to the collective, you will come out on top with a top notch game. That being said, I cannot wait to see where the game goes and I cannot wait to be there for the ride. Great content as always and thank you for sharing your thoughts.
im not in this community but this girls argument is completely focus on the casual side which implies just make the game pretty and more skins? The comp side of things cant be ignored or else the game dies off
The SPL has been dead for years and bleeds the games money. 99% of the people that play the game don't care about competitive which is also true for most games.
I only watched the first 8 seconds, once Naga left I too decided to leave. We follow our fearless leader Naga to the end of the earth and if she’s heard enough…then so have I! Good day!
Fair 🥲
what do u expect hirez is lazy as fuck n wont deal with the hackers who has been a problem since day 1 it was being tested by people who preordered it
Why is there already a competition it's still in alpha. The game is so buggy it shouldn't have a competitive thing brought on by high rez.
Smite 1 had tournaments in 2013 before the initial release, the idea is competitive tournaments bring in more players
I think competition is what makes people interested in a game which is why a lot of games have a competitive scene despite it not being directly profitable.
At the same time, putting all your eggs on the competitive side at the detriment of making a game not boring is a bit weird
just because this is still open on my laptop and i like this game too much even though i'm always on a break from it because ✨reasons✨
Matchmaking would be a neat problem to solve. Match engagement would be uplifted through matching players with complementary mistake patterns. For a simple example, match the backliner that dives using their escape with the front line that holds w. Player behavior models trained client-side given real time game state information from the player's pov and tasked to predict the players next input (keypress, mouse movement, etc) would essentially model the player. An unsupervised technique could minimally partition the player models into classes of similar behavior. A requirement to rate match quality on 1-5 after each match would allow a supervised algorithm to learn the ideal team composition in terms of behavior classes. Modern deep modelling techniques would solve the violated player model input assumptions, and the matchmaker would converge on 5/5 matches with some iterative development, and a nonlinear optimizer update would speed up this approach's likely initially long queue times after some data collection. That's how i'd attack the matchmaking problem with a team and appropriate funding.
I'm really glad you produce content girl. We need more smite girlpower, bc "fuck the manosphere" helps everyone. You go, girl. 🍀💜
okay, well wishes. bye bye tab 😆
Your talent could be used so much better elsewhere. I hope things work out for the best!
Smite is not casual friendly at the end of the day, if ur not good and lose them the game, the toxicity is warranted. In a moba all people care about is winning.
Builds and god picks are crucial sadly, if u play an old god ur likely to just get shit on and rolled, by a newer god and if u don’t build right u getting dogged
@@jpwashere2868 sounds like a great game that new players are really going to want to play and spend money on xD
Mme Patte, j'ai visionné ta vidéo ma foi fort agréable et j'en suis venu à une conclusion logique : as tu quelque chose de prévu en 2026 ?
Un tour de France en tant que candidate à la présidentielle ça te dit ? XD
Plus sérieusement je suis de loin vu que je suis occupé a la fac mais oui Hirez s'en sort bien mais ignore de trop gros trucs, je rejoins vraiment la plupart des réflexions ! Et le commentaire en réponse a Incon en passif agressif c'était....j'ai même pas de mot pour ça, très pitoyable j'imagine
Allez, on instaure le nouveau reigne mdr
Mobas arnt designed for casual play, you can def try but youre going to be in bronze-gold and if you enjoy that then thats ok but your complaints will never matter if its ab casual play because it wasnt designed for it in the first place thats why we have arena and eventually joust and maybe assault. Also even I dont agree with any of your takes here so if all the pros and other streamers say youre wrong at what point do you look at reality and see youre just fundamentally wrong? not only are you pushing this agenda on ppl who dont know what theyre talking ab who then complain about things that WILL eventually change or just completely false accusations such as how u explained legacy gems. Legacy gems are not a discount they are a real currency carried over from smite 1 any legacy gems you choose to spend will differ depending on what u buy if it is smite 1 content you can buy it with 100% of your legacy gems however if its something new and unique to smite 2 you can only use 50% of your legacy gems which is extremely generous if you ask me
Players in bronze-gold are the majority of players. Which means the majority of players are casual players then. And content creators are a minority of the players so again. My whole point is to try to explain that the feedback mostly comes from minorities and therefore it is hard to have feedback from the majority of players, who are casual players.
Wait what item balance doesn’t matter for casual players? Your sick. Items literally are like half the game. You enjoy hearing yourself talk. And here I go trying to hear another new perspective lol.
i thought u were icelandic u sound like bjork
I'll take it
She's an icon
ello naga
No they arent
I mean, the game itself is STRUGGLING mixed with a Community fighting 247 atp
@@AlterStrifeo its hilarious tbh
@@AlucardC99 this 100% makes sense as a repsonse
Smite has a community ???🤯
I thought it died in 2017
without watching the video and just seeing the title. I didn't want smite 2 and im sad smite 1 is ending
The Smite community may be one of the most immature group of impatient weirdos I've ever seen. If Smite 2 fails, the community is responsible. All Hi-Rez needs is a little bit of time to get the game out of Alpha and up to par with Smite 1 - and then beyond that.
No, it's complete and utter mismanagement and bad business by Hi-Rez. Hi-Rez has killed every game they have released besides Smite. Hi-Rez just aren't good at making games. They got lucky with smite having zero competition on console.
subbed to u just for fun
How about u worry about getting better 11 to 35 is outrageous
I see solo indie devs produce more content and faster bug fixes than a 100man dev team. It really shows how incompetent the devs really are.
It's not a question of skill in my opinion but it's hard to know... Could be the priorities are set wrong by management, lack of workforce etc
It's management, they used to have only 1 guy doing any coding for the game... Everyone and i mean everyone on the dev team was hired to make skins and crap for $$$.
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Here have a steam alpha code people.
I have zero interest in playing it.
Fuck that game. Respectfully. Because I like a bunch of those ppl but at the same time fuck em.
(Reply when claimed....don't be THAT guy)
Well the game is and has been on a long decline as far as “players”
The majority of the players still playing are extremely toxic.
The game is horrible for new players.
The game is barely tolerable to current players that have to deal with the levels of toxicity.
So on and so forth but the Mai problem is the player base.