but did you consider... of the 3 of you, who is the most likely to become a grandpa? we'll see who is winning when your grandchildren hunt you down! :D
I was fully expecting Depression: The Game to just be a blank white board with the words "you lose" drawn on in red crayon so *good job Tom for exceeding my expectations*
I mean the challenge was to make a functioning game. A game that consists of nothing but a win condition and no rules to achieving it isn't really 'making a functional game'. Even tag has more rules than that!
Yet another depressed guy here. Read your comment and went full-on hard laughing; this is too accurate! You made my day, so enjoy your like! (odd how a dark description of a depression-based game actually made me happy....weird, isn't it?)
23:30 Elliot woke up, had two depressive episodes, got out of bed, had another depressive episode, went back to bed, then had another depressive episode before finally starting the day proper.
More specific he woke up, felt crazy, got angry, got out of bed, avoided reaching out for help, went back to bed, had another episode, then finally got out of bed at probably noon
Actually he mention the possibility of him having ADHD in an old CONTENT video, the Deep Dive one. As far as I know this video is the closets he has done to a follow up on that topic, which is totally cool cause it's not like he is obligated to tell us everything that happens in his life.
@@yilleypi yeah. It was in his internet deep dive I’m glad he’s able to keep some things about his personal life personal. I know he overshares so fans can sometimes tend to feel like he owes them a peek even more into his mental state. It’s good for him he’s keeping things to and/for himself
If Tom actually sells Depression as a actual purchasable game, He will make a lot of money. And the same if Grandparadox was sold as merch too. Both would be really fun to play.
@@craigcuozzo6791 I know that, but i don't have a printer and even if i did i wouldn't want to put in the effort to make the cards and boards look as high quality. I'd rather pay a price and have it all done for me.
"KILL THE BABY" "KILL THE BABY" "KILL THE BABY!" *Rolls dice* "YAYYYY DEAD BABY!" Holy crap I've never seen 3 grown men so content on killing a fictional baby.
A friend of mine did a game about depression in Uni, it was called Spiral. It was a co op game, you stood on blobs that went around in a spiral and at points you could get cards that could help you or someone else keep away from the end of the spiral. If you unfortunately got to the end, there was a drawer with a gun in it (a toy gun, we're not crazy) and a card that essentially says that you have reached the deepest, darkest point of your depression and have decided to end it. Turns out, a lot of people find it hard to shoot themselves in the head, even with a fake gun.
That's a really fascinating social experiment. It'd be a terrible game to play, but that anecdotal evidence that suicide isn't something you can just do on a whim is really telling.
Elliot made an Unraveled reference. This episode has been out 30 minutes and directly before watching it I watched the My Weird Ice Creams video and proclaimed how much I love BDG.
"I made a game about killing your grandpa!" "I made a game about pokemon!" *_"i made a game about depression"_* Yeah, seems like the people who made ASDF
That depression game is great. It would be nice if we can add another square in the board something like "surprised factor", where when you step in it, you take a card from the "surprised factor" stack. A surprised factor maybe be something like "Getting a pay rise - move to the nearest happy square" or " It's rainy but you didn't bring an umbrella - move to the nearest sad square". That makes the game harder to predict and to light up the mood, you know, the surprised factor can be any random daily things happens in life, or some Tomska's things " Baby with a gun- move to the nearest sad square" :))) Overall, I love all these 3 games!!! And Eddie finally won something !!!!!!! Yay!!!
I love this idea! It adds a second instance of chance to the game and can also make it even more relatable. "Something reminded you of a traumatic, personal event - go back to a sad space". "You helped a stranger - go forward to a happy square". "You overheard some people talking about you - they love what you do! (Progress to a happy square)" "You overheard some people talking about you - they find you moody and inaccessible (Go back to a sad square)"
Cool idea! Those little nuggets in life that can just make your day out of nowhere really should get some acknowledgement. Here's one of those things for me: "A stranger has been really kind to you today!"
Nah it wasn't really a polygon series, it was a Brian series on polygon. It had a vision and had a slow story of bdg.... unraveling... over time( yes I think that was highly intentional)
I loved Unraveled. Hence the part of this where I say "Now that Polygon has _a lack of_ Unraveled". I've also kept up with bdg's work since, all bangers
Welcome back to my game: "Is this a symptom of Depression, Anxiety, ADHD, or Dysphoria?" Jokes aside, this may have inspired me to attempt my hand at a mental illness based game involving Spoon Theory.
@@RainyDelaneyy It's a way of explaining mental illness to someone who doesn't experience it. The idea is that everyone starts off with a number of spoons, and throughout the day, doing activities cost you spoons. And if you don't have enough spoons, then you don't have the mental strength to do those activities. For most people, simple tasks like taking a shower, making and eating breakfast, or even just getting out of bed don't coat that many spoons - if any. It's just something they do without thinking about it. But living with mental illness can mean you don't have as many spoons, or doing simple activities can cost way more spoons than usual. So you have to think about what you absolutely need to spend your energy on rather than just going about your day doing everything. If your mental health is particularly bad one day, you might have fewer spoons than usual, and have to prioritize the things that NEED to get done without question (Feeding pets, going to work, etc.) over the things that you really should do but would making doing those other things harder (making breakfast, taking a shower, etc.) It's just a simplified metaphor to represent the toll mental illness can take on people.
@@runic_raptor just a heads up, spoon theory was originally, uh, coined, i guess? for chronic illness rather than mental unhealth. it happens to also apply well for a number of mental illnesses, especially depression, but it is first and foremost a chronic illness thing :)
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear gam
Elliot; A game about killing pokemon's TCG formula. Eddie; A game about killing your granddad as a baby. Tom; A game about killing your mental state, and not yourself.
You can try Tom's game, he put a link in the description for the board and cards for you to print out. Except you have to get your own player pieces and dice!
Tom’s game sounds legitimately helpful for family members who don’t have depression. Like 5 turns in a row of sadness is a spot on example! Plus people with depression can have their symptoms addressed in such a way that they may burden the subject less than they did prior.
As someone who was recently diagnosed with MDD immediately after seeking help (my therapist believes that it may be a different disorder though but at the moment that’s what is down for me) the depression game is definitely something I’d buy to help educate the people around me and because of seeing how much these guys were laughing playing it
When are we getting a publically released version of Depression? I have friends and family that are neurotypical and could use the explanation and understanding of how depression works.
I do genuinely think Tom’s game could help, maybe it’d end up in a lot of counselors offices at schools at least to help kids express their feelings of depression
Maybe the ending of "Depression(TM)" can be more liiike, the first person to win becomes a "Therapist" role, so they can now add their own dice-roll to other players' roles. The dice roll doesn't have to be taken if it would lead the player to a bad spot, and sadness and happiness roles are effectively a zero from the therapist(s) for ease of gameplay-then each player goes until they actually make it through the day. I feel like that would be a much better, more logical, and more wholesome message/finale for people who ACTUALLY are struggling with depression and playing the Depression boardgame than just "Welp, someone made it through the day first (somehow), so nobody else gets to make it through the day; they lost."
i'm not sure if you meant for your comment to come across this way, but by saying "people who ACTUALLY are struggling with depression" it kind of makes it sound like Tom doesn't have experience with depression when he's actually depressed himself! again, i might be misinterpretting but i just wanted to point that out in case you didn't know! /nm /pos
@@Gxylord Good looking out c: But naw I meant more like: There's gonna be people playing this game who /don't/ have depression, so those people without depression probably aren't gonna be too sensitive to (or even think too much about) the material/concepts, but someone WITH depression might feel like "wow.. the win-condition is just 'one person makes it, the others fail'? What kind of message is that to those of us with depression?" kinda thing.
@@RandomPhail that’s kind of the nature of a board game based on depression-in games there are winners and losers in board games…that always has to be realized when playing a board game or party game no matter the subject
@@Tippex_Official Yeah, they do (my fav is steel psychic Jirachi), but the weakness system is so different in the TCG as well. And then there's the "Delta" Pokémon you've surely seen, where they have super weird typings.
I love the different approaches you took lol Elliot: card game hard Eddie: killing babies Tom: helping people with depression be more understood with the help of a game
Yeah, gotta be careful with this, Tom. Once wrote myself into a depressive episode because in my new novel, the MC had depression so we just... Circled the drain together...
@@supremelordofknives Honestly? I probably should have written "manuscript" instead of novel, seeing as it's unpublished. I ended up putting that manuscript aside because I wasn't in a good enough place to write it. Its title has changed many times during my attempts and by the time I'm in a stable enough place to give it another full attempt, it'll probably change again. If it gets published at some point, I'll try to remember to return to this episode and let you know what its title ends up being.
@Percy Yeah, it taught me an important lesson though. At least, I like to think it did. Instead of using art to help my mental state, I ended up just wallowing in it in an unhealthy way, and it's a fine line to walk between expressing your feelings in art and overindulging in them.
"Turning Depression Into A Board Game" Well, looks like I'm playing early access, though I'm not sure about the naming scheme of this demo called "College"
Okay, 2 things: 1) I feel like elliot being cursed in this episode is karma for having two awesome weeks 🤣 2) I would definitely pay actual money for Tom and Eddie's games 👌
Honestly, I like the idea of GrandParadox, but it needs a die from 1-3 instead of a straight d6. Other than that, it seems like something that would be fun for a party with a bunch of drunk friends.
@@mody1670 either make a d6 and label 2 sides the same number. IE all the sides combined would be like this 1,1,2,2,3,3 or if you are playing with a regular die, just treat a roll of 1-2 as 1, a roll of 3-4 as a 2, a roll of 5-6 as a 3
this puts into perspective how much more powerful the chaos becomes when working together, like a final fusion form ... also I would pay money to watch you all play any form of dnd lol
You can't say "Jesus Christ"! That's offensive. Instead, say "Christ on a stick"! It's just as offensive, but it's also funny! Follow it up with a "nailed it" for maximum humor.
@@yosefzanerva806 I thought you were just some religious asshole for a second, but then I read the “It’s just as offensive, but it’s also funny!”. Props from me lol.
I like how tryhards is less the three of them making things and more Elliot getting his chance to make his own RUclips videos with cameos from Tom and Eddie
I've scrolled too long without seeing someone mention it. Elliot that was a fucking spot-on BDG's Unravelled intro impression. My wife and I literally caught it immediately as the title popped in.
I love how much work all y'all put into your games. Gotta especially give props to Tom for wanting to share his experiences and give others the chance to do that in a friendly/low-stress manner. Thanks, man, I'm definitely printing that out and play it with my family. Maybe that'll help them understanding the struggle of bad days
Love watching how Elliot very clearly shoots his stuff knowing how he's going to edit it and it's just rampant chaos throughout everybody else's perspectives lmao. Great video lads
eddie experiencing pain at trying to make a viddy game is just what i needed to feel better about my own experience making one, thanks tryhards! edit: actually. if you don't mind rehashing ideas? what if you had a tryhards game jam?
I feel like Eddie doing so well is him making up for literally every other episode so far. But also yo these are awesome! I've been enjoying these with friends and it's awesome seeing you guys together and making stuff! Yall are awesome and I'm glad you're still here and having fun!
Depression needs to be made for sale. 😂 omg, what a great way to address a challenging topic. The black lower case font blank on a plain white lid was perfect 👌 I laughed so much through this whole video. 😂 thanks!
How to fix Elliot's game: Put the base stat totals of the Pokémon on there. If none of the moves directly do the outcome, it comes down to which numbers are the best.
Sorry for bumping this old comment, but I 100% agree. The reason the pokemon TCG is so complicated is partially the cards, but mostly because the game relies on numbers - at its core, that's what pokemon is.
So we got a darkly humorous yet very sincere game about depression and what you can do to mitigate it, an overcomplicated game about paradoxes and homocide where the creator rigged it, and chaos rock paper scissors featuring Pokémon.
depression was probably the best made game, like it was easy to understand and everyone had fun, also tom put so much work into it and it turned out great... i want depression
For being based on MTG, it's weird how they handled energy. Because it's all based on attachment to the active mon once per turn and you can only start at a Basic, the schoolyard method would just be to build up a tough mon by loading your deck with energies and then steamroll all the baby forms that your oponent can't build up before they get bodied.
This series is a pretty good way to summarize Tom, Eddie, and Elliot's Psyche. Tom works hard for his projects, Eddie just wants to have fun with himself and his family, and Elliot is Elliot. I have no idea what I'm saying I'm just spewing words. 🧙♂️
I think Elliot spins a wheel and does whatever it lands on. Overkill problem solving, wholesome content, and chaos. In the case of the Banana-nana Man, it landed on the edge of chaos and wholesome. He made multiple songs to see which one worked best. That's overkill But he also did Minecraft livestreaming for charity. That's wholesome BUT THEN he attached a buzzsaw to a power drill that was duct taped to an RC car. That's 100% chaos
Okay but Tom's game has some highkey wholesome things in it though and I have no doubt that it'd make a great seller if it was made an official game. I absolutely love it and will probably play it someday in the future.
23:50 Hearing Elliot so close to the microphone made me ponder the possibility of an ASMR challenge in the future. *_I am both terrified and intrigued by the possibilities._*
When I found out I had the Depression+adhd combo at the age of 16, my mind was blown on two fronts. On one hand, everything made so much sense. On the other hand, I was the only person who wasn’t aware of it. Everyone knew. My friends, my teachers, even the guy I bought pizza from figured it out from passively observing me eat at the pizza place. Seriously, wtf?!
14:10 When I first watched your videos, I’m gonna be honest, I had no idea who Bo Burnham was. I recently watched INSIDE, and have gone through, and am still going through, quite a Bo Burnham phase, and one of my favorite things, is coming back to videos like these, and being surprised when there’s a reference to Bo
Neither of my grandfathers were alive when I was born, so my game doesn't stem from any hidden trauma or anything!
Maybe the trauma is so hidden YOU didn’t even know it was there???????
Hey Eddie, grandparadox, looks like a really good game wish I could play it
but did you consider... of the 3 of you, who is the most likely to become a grandpa? we'll see who is winning when your grandchildren hunt you down! :D
@@EVBell-gz8iv but did you consider, one of them could be the grandad, and one could the grandchild playing the long game?
You should publish Grandparadox. I'd buy it.
I can now publicly say that I have worked hard to contribute to TomSka's depression. The board game. Obvs.
Obvs :D
Man I wish I could contribute to TomSka’s depression!
I love you Tom have a great day
yep only the board game ;)
Why do you have a battery?
I was fully expecting Depression: The Game to just be a blank white board with the words "you lose" drawn on in red crayon so *good job Tom for exceeding my expectations*
I mean the challenge was to make a functioning game. A game that consists of nothing but a win condition and no rules to achieving it isn't really 'making a functional game'. Even tag has more rules than that!
Yet another depressed guy here. Read your comment and went full-on hard laughing; this is too accurate! You made my day, so enjoy your like! (odd how a dark description of a depression-based game actually made me happy....weird, isn't it?)
@@AuxFace056 Glad it gave you a laugh, have a good day man!
Black crayon
@@sourwitch2340 win condition is that first one to cry playing wind, happy?
23:30 Elliot woke up, had two depressive episodes, got out of bed, had another depressive episode, went back to bed, then had another depressive episode before finally starting the day proper.
sounds about right for a depressed person
I'm beiing called out- haha
relatable
Yeah that’s a feeling
More specific he woke up, felt crazy, got angry, got out of bed, avoided reaching out for help, went back to bed, had another episode, then finally got out of bed at probably noon
"I felt inadequate!"
*_"Good"_*
These guys didn't just create ASDF, *_they are ASDF_*
In ASDFmovie15 LET THE MUFFIN DIE
PLEASE I WANNA *DIE DIE DIE* *DIE DIE DIE* IT’S MUFFIN TIME I WANNA *DIE DIE DIE*
You have spoken words of *truth*
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2 comments, 1 video
So when we all getting together to play these?
Love your videos Rebecca
Never
Oh Hey Rebecca !
:)
Yay Miss. becca
Tom’s depression game we first heard about in like Last Week or something has finally reached its conclusion.
What a journey.
yes yes
@@mia.mor1023 oh yes
Yes yes yes
Ja ja ja
Unrelated, but I recognize you from the EW Discord server lmao
Tom finding out he has ADHD because he tried to make a game about depression is top comedy but also extremely relatable
Actually he mention the possibility of him having ADHD in an old CONTENT video, the Deep Dive one. As far as I know this video is the closets he has done to a follow up on that topic, which is totally cool cause it's not like he is obligated to tell us everything that happens in his life.
@@yilleypi yeah. It was in his internet deep dive
I’m glad he’s able to keep some things about his personal life personal. I know he overshares so fans can sometimes tend to feel like he owes them a peek even more into his mental state.
It’s good for him he’s keeping things to and/for himself
My late 20s in a nutshell
This is the second time he's accidentally realised he may have ADHD on camera
@@yilleypi TV f88f8i-
If Tom actually sells Depression as a actual purchasable game, He will make a lot of money.
And the same if Grandparadox was sold as merch too. Both would be really fun to play.
Yeah, i genuinely wish both of these could be merch. Depression genuinely looks fun as well as educational.
Check the description guys, there is a printable version of this
@@craigcuozzo6791 I know that, but i don't have a printer and even if i did i wouldn't want to put in the effort to make the cards and boards look as high quality. I'd rather pay a price and have it all done for me.
@@zanemcewen1343 I mean, there are places where you can pay to get that done for you.
@@zanemcewen1343 Pay me ill do it. And by that I mean pay other people to do it and charge you for the convenience
"KILL THE BABY"
"KILL THE BABY"
"KILL THE BABY!"
*Rolls dice*
"YAYYYY DEAD BABY!"
Holy crap I've never seen 3 grown men so content on killing a fictional baby.
I like how you had to specify fictional
@@the.youtube.of.sam.gotter Yes.
Fictional baby Hitler. You'll get 5 billion people eager for his death.
You obviously haven't seen people drop a penguin off a cliff in Super Mario 64
You clearly havent seen people and Ice Age Baby
A friend of mine did a game about depression in Uni, it was called Spiral. It was a co op game, you stood on blobs that went around in a spiral and at points you could get cards that could help you or someone else keep away from the end of the spiral. If you unfortunately got to the end, there was a drawer with a gun in it (a toy gun, we're not crazy) and a card that essentially says that you have reached the deepest, darkest point of your depression and have decided to end it. Turns out, a lot of people find it hard to shoot themselves in the head, even with a fake gun.
This is extremely interesting but also an extremely sad concept for a board game
That's a really fascinating social experiment. It'd be a terrible game to play, but that anecdotal evidence that suicide isn't something you can just do on a whim is really telling.
@@MrLegendofLP yeah, this too.
I love to play it
I'd enjoy playing it
I love how the only problem Eddie's wife had with murdering her grandfather was killing him as a baby
to be fair, she had a point when she said, "Why couldn't i have just killed him in the war?" It would have been a lot less work
"Why do I have to kill a baby?"
"Because it's your Grandad"
Ah, the flawless Bowley logic
GrandAD
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Tom: "Why are we killing him?"
Eddie: "That's a very good question" *precedes to not answer question*
God that Polygon impression makes me nostalgic
Ikr
Unraveled! I came to see if anyone else got the reference
Yes!
THANK YOU! This is partially why I'm in the comments. His name was on the tip of my tongue, all I came up with was Parallelogram lol
bdg's polygon series will live on in my heart :(
hearing a toddler say "KILL GRANDAD!!" in such happiness is surreal
The grandad actually coming was hilarious 😂😂
Well this is awkward 😓
I saw this comment in advance, and I was still not prepared for the moment when it arrived.
@@falcore91same then I saw the actual grandad😂
@@falcore91 LOL
Elliot made an Unraveled reference. This episode has been out 30 minutes and directly before watching it I watched the My Weird Ice Creams video and proclaimed how much I love BDG.
Didn’t Tom reference Unraveled in his analysis of asdfmovie, also have BDG voice a character in the most recent asdf?
@@alexdavis665 yeah Tom fucking killed him lmao
Not suprising finding you here.
i was not ready for elliot to make this reference
Wait really? It was an Unraveled reference?? I didn't even notice.
“I’m not actually doing that bad, I just wanna be Bo Burnham.”
The honesty here💀
honestly knowing that some of my favorite creators enjoy Bo Burnham makes me so unbelievably happy
@@gayairconditioner8977 that username is what I am and what I need rn-
Time stamp?
@@theoriginalstarwalker5700 13:59
@@gayairconditioner8977 i can relate!!
"It's hot in here. We're gonna turn some fans on... by getting undressed"
Honestly some pretty great on-the-fly wordplay
genuinely only got the joke when I read it in your comment here
"I made a game about killing your grandpa!"
"I made a game about pokemon!"
*_"i made a game about depression"_*
Yeah, seems like the people who made ASDF
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The End
Can tell this episode will be a banger, i've been waiting for the next episode ever since the last came out les goooo
hmm
yes
the floor here is made out of floor
A year later will be next year
:O hi Seek
Every 60 minutes that passes in Canada, an Hour passes in Australia!
yoo hey! i love ur animations :)
Elliot David Gilbert deserves his own series, he should be the one to make unravelled 2
I didnt know that I needed a BDG reference today, but my day would've been worse without it
*Cries a little*
Unraveled 3
"Im not actually doing that bad i just wanna be Bo Burnham" this channel is a goldmine
14:12
‘I just wanna be bo burnham’
Same Tom
Same
Goes to make a board game about his depression, get diagnosed with ADHD as well, gets more depressed.
Yep, this a Tomska video alright
That depression game is great. It would be nice if we can add another square in the board something like "surprised factor", where when you step in it, you take a card from the "surprised factor" stack. A surprised factor maybe be something like "Getting a pay rise - move to the nearest happy square" or " It's rainy but you didn't bring an umbrella - move to the nearest sad square". That makes the game harder to predict and to light up the mood, you know, the surprised factor can be any random daily things happens in life, or some Tomska's things " Baby with a gun- move to the nearest sad square" :)))
Overall, I love all these 3 games!!! And Eddie finally won something !!!!!!! Yay!!!
I love this idea! It adds a second instance of chance to the game and can also make it even more relatable.
"Something reminded you of a traumatic, personal event - go back to a sad space".
"You helped a stranger - go forward to a happy square".
"You overheard some people talking about you - they love what you do! (Progress to a happy square)"
"You overheard some people talking about you - they find you moody and inaccessible (Go back to a sad square)"
I love that idea! I've got an idea for a surprise card:
Suddenly pineapples.
they could be called swan card, like black and white swans :0
(also I really love this idea, it would add alot to his game)
Cool idea! Those little nuggets in life that can just make your day out of nowhere really should get some acknowledgement. Here's one of those things for me:
"A stranger has been really kind to you today!"
I feel like you could also do something where you move to the closest player. E.g. "You found a new friend - Move to the closest player".
You know, since Polygon suddenly has a lack of Unraveled, that can be poached real easy, just saying
Nah it wasn't really a polygon series, it was a Brian series on polygon. It had a vision and had a slow story of bdg.... unraveling... over time( yes I think that was highly intentional)
It's because brian david gilbert (unraveled guy) left polygon
welp i guess he didnt watch the the last one
I loved Unraveled. Hence the part of this where I say "Now that Polygon has _a lack of_ Unraveled". I've also kept up with bdg's work since, all bangers
@@TheNexan_ we like watching birds
Eddie: **killing granddads!**
Tom: **depression!**
Elliot: *hehe let’s remake Pokémon-*
You know how strict Ninendo is. He’s gonna die
ya'know the comments are for... commenting on the video right?
@brixk you're welcome! Glad you're so grateful!
"Let's infringe on two copyrights! Killing two birds with one stone!"
@@neonzplayz5060 Elliot: "HAHAHAHA POKEMON REMAKE!"
Nintendo: "Shoot 'em down"
Welcome back to my game: "Is this a symptom of Depression, Anxiety, ADHD, or Dysphoria?"
Jokes aside, this may have inspired me to attempt my hand at a mental illness based game involving Spoon Theory.
Mood. But add autism, C-PTSD, and dissociation to the list
I have no idea what Spoon Theory is
@@RainyDelaneyy It's a way of explaining mental illness to someone who doesn't experience it.
The idea is that everyone starts off with a number of spoons, and throughout the day, doing activities cost you spoons. And if you don't have enough spoons, then you don't have the mental strength to do those activities.
For most people, simple tasks like taking a shower, making and eating breakfast, or even just getting out of bed don't coat that many spoons - if any. It's just something they do without thinking about it.
But living with mental illness can mean you don't have as many spoons, or doing simple activities can cost way more spoons than usual. So you have to think about what you absolutely need to spend your energy on rather than just going about your day doing everything.
If your mental health is particularly bad one day, you might have fewer spoons than usual, and have to prioritize the things that NEED to get done without question (Feeding pets, going to work, etc.) over the things that you really should do but would making doing those other things harder (making breakfast, taking a shower, etc.)
It's just a simplified metaphor to represent the toll mental illness can take on people.
@@runic_raptor Interesting! As someone who's very mentally ill, I think it's definitely a cool idea to make a game that goes along like that!
@@runic_raptor just a heads up, spoon theory was originally, uh, coined, i guess? for chronic illness rather than mental unhealth. it happens to also apply well for a number of mental illnesses, especially depression, but it is first and foremost a chronic illness thing :)
"Those aren't depression symptons they're adhd" the neurodivergent grind
Welcome to our new game: Comorbidity: Because When It Rains, It Pours.
Lol Eddie in the intro "I'm a dumb baby" seems like we're off to a good start lol
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear gam
Elliot: Pokemon :D
Eddie: A game of going back in time
Tomska: *Depression.*
LMAO
Elliot; A game about killing pokemon's TCG formula.
Eddie; A game about killing your granddad as a baby.
Tom; A game about killing your mental state, and not yourself.
seems about right
KILL GRANDPA! :D
Can we get Kickstarter for Tom and Eddie’s games, Not Elliot cause copyright but I’d for one love to try these games
that's what i was thinking
He would just have to fakemon parody it honestly
You can try Tom's game, he put a link in the description for the board and cards for you to print out. Except you have to get your own player pieces and dice!
Tom’s game sounds legitimately helpful for family members who don’t have depression. Like 5 turns in a row of sadness is a spot on example! Plus people with depression can have their symptoms addressed in such a way that they may burden the subject less than they did prior.
I love Eddie and Tom's games. I would honestly pay money for Grandparadox.
" Bats don't poison people"
That's just what they want you to think
As someone who was recently diagnosed with MDD immediately after seeking help (my therapist believes that it may be a different disorder though but at the moment that’s what is down for me) the depression game is definitely something I’d buy to help educate the people around me and because of seeing how much these guys were laughing playing it
"That's not a depression symptom, that's ADHD."
Relatable...Basically sounds like my therapy sessions for the past year.
Oh, it me
Fun fact:
Both adhd and depression stem from a lack of dopamine
Who wants to make a ADHD group
@@sineadlucas3682 same
@@rettrett6072 Hello, brains!
I don't care how good the game is, Elliot wins for the unraveling of his board game.
When are we getting a publically released version of Depression? I have friends and family that are neurotypical and could use the explanation and understanding of how depression works.
Memento Mori dear friend
@@solidmoonbeams8939 Lmao I thought you were the same dude
you can make your own board and print out all the cards. p sure tom put it up for free
Check the description!
Why just neurotypical people? Neurodivergent people can also need it explained.
11:29 And the Dad of the Year reward goes to…
People don't say it but it's the absolute highlight of the video XD
I like how Elliot and Eddie are having fun and Tom is actually serious about the game
I do genuinely think Tom’s game could help, maybe it’d end up in a lot of counselors offices at schools at least to help kids express their feelings of depression
Maybe the ending of "Depression(TM)" can be more liiike, the first person to win becomes a "Therapist" role, so they can now add their own dice-roll to other players' roles. The dice roll doesn't have to be taken if it would lead the player to a bad spot, and sadness and happiness roles are effectively a zero from the therapist(s) for ease of gameplay-then each player goes until they actually make it through the day.
I feel like that would be a much better, more logical, and more wholesome message/finale for people who ACTUALLY are struggling with depression and playing the Depression boardgame than just "Welp, someone made it through the day first (somehow), so nobody else gets to make it through the day; they lost."
i'm not sure if you meant for your comment to come across this way, but by saying "people who ACTUALLY are struggling with depression" it kind of makes it sound like Tom doesn't have experience with depression when he's actually depressed himself! again, i might be misinterpretting but i just wanted to point that out in case you didn't know! /nm /pos
@@Gxylord Good looking out c: But naw I meant more like: There's gonna be people playing this game who /don't/ have depression, so those people without depression probably aren't gonna be too sensitive to (or even think too much about) the material/concepts, but someone WITH depression might feel like "wow.. the win-condition is just 'one person makes it, the others fail'? What kind of message is that to those of us with depression?" kinda thing.
Expansion pack?
@@RandomPhail that’s kind of the nature of a board game based on depression-in games there are winners and losers in board games…that always has to be realized when playing a board game or party game no matter the subject
@@CurtyTails I mean, it doesn't, and they literally provided a potential way for it to be avoided.
The mild irony in Elliot spending so much time making all the Pokémon single-type, when they already are single-types in the TCG. Hahaha bless him
I think there are a few dual types in Pokémon TCG, but they’re few and far between and I don’t think they’re even made anymore
@@Tippex_Official Yeah, they do (my fav is steel psychic Jirachi), but the weakness system is so different in the TCG as well. And then there's the "Delta" Pokémon you've surely seen, where they have super weird typings.
@@YuliaLinderoth like steel pikachus and electric gyarados?
@@Tippex_Official Yeah, or electric Charmander
There are actually some dual types in newer editions lol
20:09 that yay he’s dead never gets old
19:55 eddie: if you get a six you can kill that grandad"
Tom: "OK!"
Tom: documentary-like mental health story, Elliot: Unraveled parody with a lot in post, Eddie: camera on table trying not to horribly fail.
I love the different approaches you took lol
Elliot: card game hard
Eddie: killing babies
Tom: helping people with depression be more understood with the help of a game
"I'm not actually doing that bad, I just wanna be Bo Burnham" is such a real mood these days
That sounds like a great twitter bio
Ikr
Tom put his heart and soul into this. He turned something really exhausteing into something that can help people cope with real depression
Tom: *Makes a completely original game*
Eddie: *Also makes a completely original game*
Elliot: Haha Pokémon is hard
Yeah, gotta be careful with this, Tom. Once wrote myself into a depressive episode because in my new novel, the MC had depression so we just... Circled the drain together...
Are you okay now? :(
What is the novel called? Also I hope you are ok.
@@supremelordofknives Honestly? I probably should have written "manuscript" instead of novel, seeing as it's unpublished. I ended up putting that manuscript aside because I wasn't in a good enough place to write it. Its title has changed many times during my attempts and by the time I'm in a stable enough place to give it another full attempt, it'll probably change again.
If it gets published at some point, I'll try to remember to return to this episode and let you know what its title ends up being.
@Percy Yeah, it taught me an important lesson though. At least, I like to think it did. Instead of using art to help my mental state, I ended up just wallowing in it in an unhealthy way, and it's a fine line to walk between expressing your feelings in art and overindulging in them.
"Turning Depression Into A Board Game"
Well, looks like I'm playing early access, though I'm not sure about the naming scheme of this demo called "College"
You have been pressured to judge your self worth based on a letter grade, go back a space
The nerd corrected your sentence after a simple Grammer accident,you then ripped his head off in an empty warehouse
"Move 5 spaces ahead!"
@@beywheelzhater8930 me everyday
I hear they made a sequel called “Nine to Five: Minimum Wage”.
@@luckyanimationideas2448 He corrected your sentence in a simple grammar accident and you made him disappear in a wood-chipper accident.
Okay, 2 things: 1) I feel like elliot being cursed in this episode is karma for having two awesome weeks 🤣 2) I would definitely pay actual money for Tom and Eddie's games 👌
Reminder that Elliot has come out on top of every prior episode except for one that was very close.
Honestly, I like the idea of GrandParadox, but it needs a die from 1-3 instead of a straight d6. Other than that, it seems like something that would be fun for a party with a bunch of drunk friends.
@@ianrose6218 go do you make a 3 sided die?
@@mody1670 either make a d6 and label 2 sides the same number. IE all the sides combined would be like this 1,1,2,2,3,3
or if you are playing with a regular die, just treat a roll of 1-2 as 1, a roll of 3-4 as a 2, a roll of 5-6 as a 3
5:30
I would absolutely watch a full video of Elliot simplifying all the dual-type Pokémon!
this puts into perspective how much more powerful the chaos becomes when working together, like a final fusion form
... also I would pay money to watch you all play any form of dnd lol
“And the moral of the story is the neurotypicals win”
Jesus Christ ain’t that the truth-
You can't say "Jesus Christ"! That's offensive. Instead, say "Christ on a stick"! It's just as offensive, but it's also funny! Follow it up with a "nailed it" for maximum humor.
@@yosefzanerva806 I thought you were just some religious asshole for a second, but then I read the “It’s just as offensive, but it’s also funny!”. Props from me lol.
@@aname7585 Thanks, bro!
@@yosefzanerva806 it took me a moment to get the “nailed it” part. That is horrible, thank you for the smile
@@hemlo_it_me6874 You're welcome.
I like how tryhards is less the three of them making things and more Elliot getting his chance to make his own RUclips videos with cameos from Tom and Eddie
11:40 “grandads here!” This is gonna be an awkward conversation…
I've scrolled too long without seeing someone mention it.
Elliot that was a fucking spot-on BDG's Unravelled intro impression. My wife and I literally caught it immediately as the title popped in.
I love how much work all y'all put into your games. Gotta especially give props to Tom for wanting to share his experiences and give others the chance to do that in a friendly/low-stress manner. Thanks, man, I'm definitely printing that out and play it with my family. Maybe that'll help them understanding the struggle of bad days
Love watching how Elliot very clearly shoots his stuff knowing how he's going to edit it and it's just rampant chaos throughout everybody else's perspectives lmao. Great video lads
eddie experiencing pain at trying to make a viddy game is just what i needed to feel better about my own experience making one, thanks tryhards!
edit: actually. if you don't mind rehashing ideas? what if you had a tryhards game jam?
The consistency of tom doing good, eddy doing even better and elliot doing horrible in the games is hilarious
but that didn't happen this time, if anything it was the opposite
@@giggabiite4417 Re-read the comment.
Tom's POV absolutely gave me bo burnham vibes and i loved it and then he outright SAID IT which makes it so funny
Elliott referencing Brian David Gilbert feels like being in a secret club.
I feel like Eddie doing so well is him making up for literally every other episode so far. But also yo these are awesome! I've been enjoying these with friends and it's awesome seeing you guys together and making stuff! Yall are awesome and I'm glad you're still here and having fun!
Shocked Eddie didn't immediately make a beeline for Scratch, that's the quintessential Drag and Drop programming language.
13:33 tom lying in bed with a microphone gives me bo burnham vibes I'm not gonna lie
okay well I commented this before he said he just wants to be bo burnham and now I feel like a genius
"Those aren't really depression symptoms, those are ADHD" this hiiiiiit
Depression needs to be made for sale. 😂 omg, what a great way to address a challenging topic. The black lower case font blank on a plain white lid was perfect 👌 I laughed so much through this whole video. 😂 thanks!
I was just like "I think I've seen this somewhere before" and then Tom jokes about Bo Burnham. It killed me.
Elliot's actually gotten really good at keying with Tom's "good enough" lighting... Respect!
How to fix Elliot's game: Put the base stat totals of the Pokémon on there. If none of the moves directly do the outcome, it comes down to which numbers are the best.
Sorry for bumping this old comment, but I 100% agree. The reason the pokemon TCG is so complicated is partially the cards, but mostly because the game relies on numbers - at its core, that's what pokemon is.
Tom: References Bo Burnham
Elliot: References Brian David Gilbert
Eddy: References Eddy
Honestly I’m livid for Elliot’s statistical wonder when playing depression.
Tomska always goes deep for these types of videos, he really tries in everything and goes full force. Good job Tomska!
So we got a darkly humorous yet very sincere game about depression and what you can do to mitigate it, an overcomplicated game about paradoxes and homocide where the creator rigged it, and chaos rock paper scissors featuring Pokémon.
He made Golduck and Psyduck actually psychic types.
Careful, he’s a hero.
Gen 5 double duck rain teams on suicide watch rn
depression was probably the best made game, like it was easy to understand and everyone had fun, also tom put so much work into it and it turned out great... i want depression
16:39 Depression: The Board Game - "I'm happy with this"
At this point I am seriously worried at what Eddie's son will become
Elliot is literally so relatable with having no freaking clue how the pokemon card game works.
you think that's complicated, ever tried getting into MTG or Yugioh?
The pokémon is accutualy the simpler game out of the big 3 (yu-gi-oh,pokémon tcg and magic the gathering)
For being based on MTG, it's weird how they handled energy. Because it's all based on attachment to the active mon once per turn and you can only start at a Basic, the schoolyard method would just be to build up a tough mon by loading your deck with energies and then steamroll all the baby forms that your oponent can't build up before they get bodied.
who needs a board game when you can experience it in real life, every moment of every day?
Yea,I agree, why would I want a board game about killing my grandad when I could easily experience it in real life >:(
Wait what
YAY
21:00 TURN SOME *FANS* ON BY GETTING UN DRESSED
Eddie's spiral into insanity as he attempts to learn GM Studio is very relatable as someone trying to get into game development
Luckily, Rick saying “kill grandad” sounds a bit like “hello grandad”
Could have been awkward otherwise.
"we killed a baby grandad with a fighter jet!" My best quote tbh.
This series is a pretty good way to summarize Tom, Eddie, and Elliot's Psyche.
Tom works hard for his projects,
Eddie just wants to have fun with himself and his family, and
Elliot is Elliot.
I have no idea what I'm saying I'm just spewing words. 🧙♂️
I think Elliot spins a wheel and does whatever it lands on. Overkill problem solving, wholesome content, and chaos. In the case of the Banana-nana Man, it landed on the edge of chaos and wholesome.
He made multiple songs to see which one worked best. That's overkill
But he also did Minecraft livestreaming for charity. That's wholesome
BUT THEN he attached a buzzsaw to a power drill that was duct taped to an RC car. That's 100% chaos
@@shinymainespoon didn't he also attach the "eggplant" to the buzz saw too?
@@Vessick This is true, which also adds to the chaos
The captions during Elliot explaining were hilarious, I also appreciate Elliot’s service in simplifying that horrifically hard game
Okay but Tom's game has some highkey wholesome things in it though and I have no doubt that it'd make a great seller if it was made an official game.
I absolutely love it and will probably play it someday in the future.
Elliot: "Bats can't poison people!"
The bat that started Covid: "Hold my pandemic."
Concepts for board games
Tom: depression
Eddie: Tim travel
Elliot: NINTENDO LAWSUIT
23:50
Hearing Elliot so close to the microphone made me ponder the possibility of an ASMR challenge in the future.
*_I am both terrified and intrigued by the possibilities._*
I would love to buy depression the boardgame if it was made legit. Such a good way to connect and talk about things we hold inside.
Well good news it is available for the low low cost of printer paper, he included a digital copy for us
I can't believe you said "Bats dont poison people" after what happened to us all
Eddie: An elaborate game about time travel
Tom: A comprehensive game about mental health
Eliott: I did a pokemon
i never thought i’d see tomska with guns behind him again
kinda nostalgic
When I found out I had the Depression+adhd combo at the age of 16, my mind was blown on two fronts. On one hand, everything made so much sense. On the other hand, I was the only person who wasn’t aware of it. Everyone knew. My friends, my teachers, even the guy I bought pizza from figured it out from passively observing me eat at the pizza place. Seriously, wtf?!
Damn
14:10 When I first watched your videos, I’m gonna be honest, I had no idea who Bo Burnham was. I recently watched INSIDE, and have gone through, and am still going through, quite a Bo Burnham phase, and one of my favorite things, is coming back to videos like these, and being surprised when there’s a reference to Bo
I actually recently made a card with my brother called "Blunt, Sharp, Shoot." basically just harder rock, paper, scissors.