WHY IS MY ARM & ARMPIT NUMB AFTER BREAST CANCER SURGERY? Explaining Axillary Nerve Tissue Damage
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- One of the most common symptoms after Breast Cancer Surgery is numbness of the arm and armpit. Understandably people often assume this may be the start of Lymphoedema, which is typically not the case.
I'm a big believer that Education during Breast Cancer Treatment creates a sense of control for the person going through it. So explaining this side effect of Breast Cancer Surgery is another important topic.
In this video I explain why the (Upper Inside of the) Arm and Armpit often go numb following Breast Cancer Surgery. I also discuss the important fact that this is PERIPHERAL nerve tissue - which means for the large majority of people - it will grow back. I talk about the typical timeframe it takes for this nerve tissue to get feeling back and what it feels like when it does!
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Jen x
OMG!! Thank you!! Like the comments from others, I was totally clueless and so worried that I had early signs of lymphedema. You have eased my anxiety!! I am so grateful!! I wish every medical provider would use your video to educate their patients!
Hi Margie! Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
totally my case as well! I got 6 lymph nodes removed during my bilateral mastectomy. It's Day 16 post surgery , and I started to feel uncomfortable obviously. I was even afraid to touch it, now I know I can do massage instead!!! Thank you so much, Jen!
Why don’t they thats the question??? Glad to here eased anxiety, tapping can also ease anxiety💕
I am not a cancer patient, but i had breast reduction and lift in December. In January I begin to feel a lot of pain in my arm pit area where he performed lipo on the sides in that area, I have been having bad arm pain as well that has now caused my pointer finger to be numb and lower arm. No medications helped. They sent me to pain management. Now I have to get an MRI and Nerve test done. Lately the only thing that is coping the pain is Nervive and excedrin ache both over the counter medicines. I am nervous and praying no permanent nerve damage. Thank you for this video.
Thirty year survivor this year. Third stage, estrogen positive. Thirty-two lymph nodes removed with 21 of them positive. Numbness as you perfectly describe until last year when I experienced some of those lightening bolts, twinges. Again as you perfectly describe. Had to smile about my dear body persisting after all these years. Big hugs.
P.S. Ice packs are wonderful for pain. Never needed anything else for pain.
Hi Susan, Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
My breast care nurse has warned me not to use ice or heat packs, said it would be damaging. I did put a gel pack (not put in the freezer) and hated even that cool sensation.
Too bad. My doctors and nurses encouraged me to use ice packs for pain, even providing me with hospital packs to insert ice cubes in. Worked marvelously for me. Never needed any pain meds, even over the counter. I wrapped the soft material packs in a towel.
@@susanhartley5732 brill. I will look into this. Doctors and nurses do not always get things right. I am one for natural remedies.
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio Hi Jen, do you have any views about the use of ice or heat packs for pain? My breast care nurse has said not to use them in the armpit area but other patients swear by them. I have a sore pain in the armit area that comes and goes.
Omg, thank you......i have been in so much discomfort since surgery in late February but the only response I've had is 'thats normal, dont worry' but no one has explained why i am numb and so bloody uncomfortable in my armpit. Half the time i just feel my care team are going through the motions and ticking off their To Do List for Jules!!! Your explanations have given me an overwhelming sense of relief and that i can start to look forward to going back to being normal again. The hardest part of my journey to date has been the pain and numbness in the armpit and inside my arm, as well as not being told by the surgeon these are the things to expect.......i shall be following your channel closely. Thank you ❤️
Far out, your ability to describe EXACTLY what I'm feeling just blows my mind. From the weird zaps to the deodorant thing you've absolutely nailed my experience. 😁
I'll also echo what others have said - such a shame surgeons don't tell you this stuff (what will actually happen).
Thank you thank you for reassuring us all. 🥰💕
Thank you so much for your lovely response Kimis! I so appreciate it. Would you mind if I used your comment as a testimonial on a workshop? I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio Yes, you can certainly use my comment as a testimonial! I've joined the FB community already - will introduce myself on the welcome thread. 😊
@@kimispebble9272 Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for your videos! You speak to all the questions that I wondered about!
Thank you so much for creating a video on this topic. This has been really helpful for me
Very informative and helpful -- knowing what I'm feeling (or not feeling) is normal, and something I can work on. Thank you!
Thank you Jen. This helped so much. I was experiencing this exact thing and had no idea why this was happening.
So good to hear this Caroline! I've shared my Private Facebook Group link with you in your other message. Thanks again for commenting! Jen
Thank you so much for this! It’s so frustrating. This has helped me understand better what Im experiencing.
Thank you for your lovely feedback! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
These videos are an excellent resource. I did not receive any of this factual detailed information post surgery and they have answered all of my questions and more. Invaluable resource. Thank you to Jen. 🙏
Hi Dana! Thank you for your lovely feedback. I'm so happy to hear the videos have been helpful. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Appreciate the explanation. I am 4 weeks out from a preventative mastectomy in which some auxiliary tissue was removed from my left axilla and I have numbness in exactly the places you describe! Good to know why and like others, neither the breast surgeon nor the plastic surgeon who did my reconstruction mentioned this! Stimulating the area makes total sense to me. Thanks so much🥰
THANK YOU very much! I'm clueless. I thought it's just me. But you have discussed the same thing I was feeling.
BRILLIANT! Thank you for exactly the information I needed. Perfection. 😃
So pleased to hear this Lisa! I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Always so helpful and informative. Thank you Jen. This video helps to explain so much.
Thankyou for your lovely feedback Victoria!! Really appreciate it and so glad the video was helpful. Jen x
Thank you so much for this video. This calms my anxiety from my lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy.
Thank you for your lovely feedback Allison! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Exactly what I am going through now. I had a Massive modified mastectomy 6 weeks ago, drain tubes still attached. Going through this exact numbness at the exact places you described.
Thank you very much Gen your videos are so informative snd professional.I treated my chording following your instructions and it's helped me cure it! I do have the armpit numbness since i had surgery but today your video is reassuring and I will start exercises and massage.l can't thank you enough keep it up!
Thank you for such caring support and answers to my numbness question
Hi Cynthia! Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank you. Another informative video that is exactly what I needed. Your deodorant story was me last week!
You are so welcome Suzanne! Thank you for watching! Jen x
Thank you, Jen, for providing so much great information. My surgeon told me none of this. If not for you, I would have had to search to locate information. Your explanations are thorough and beneficial. My surgeon also didn’t explain sentinel node biopsies or the lack of significant benefit in removing nodes with low grade/stage cancers. I had DCIS.
Hi Alynda! Thank you as always for your positive feedback. It is very much appreciated. I am sorry to hear this information was not passed on initially by your medical team. Jen
Omg I just said the same thing. My surgeon said nothing about post-op numbness or cording. Why do we have to learn this from RUclips
@@aleecewhite3919 How is your cording doing?
@@accidentsafe It ended up not being cording but just post op tightness that resolved about 3 days after my new surgeon examined me.
Same here ! if it wasnt for your videos i would be in the dark ... very blindsided by post op side effects.
I thought i just had to recover from biopsies and sentinal node surgeries then masectomy / reconstrution .... then after the 6 week marker passed and i thought id be back to normal one by one problems of deep stomach scarring which shocked me under arm pain and swelling stiffness and soreness. also i had problem with canulas leaking repeatedly into arm and medication alergic reactions which still pain me internally.
2 days before surgery i crushed my finger to nothing between 2 big rocks in garden ...
My brain is receiving so many nerve signals its almost shut down ..
i really would have appreciated a heads up from medical team as to what might happen ... and be patient with recovery its not finished at 6 weeks which is what i took from chat ... then i was discharged for 3 months and all the new stuff emerges.
your videos are most appreciated and important and i thank you for you knowledge and generosity xxxx
Thank you for your video Jen. I am three weeks post mastectomy operation. Your explanation has made more hopeful of the nerves recovering and therefore motives me to do the massages and stretches.
Hi Sophia! Wonderful to hear this video was helpful. I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Wow, very educative program, please keep it up, have learnt alot.👏👏👏
Thank you I feel so much better mentally after listening to this video. I’m not as concerned about the numbness and will start to massage and exercising tomorrow. I’ve watched so man6 of your videos they are so helpful and I think you should have your own show so that all breast cancer survivors can gain insigh5 and awareness of what’s happening after their surgery. You are so thorough in your explanation. Thank you so much. You’ve helped more than you could ever know. You are a blessing to all breast cancer survivors.
Thank you for your lovely comment! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much ! My mom recently got her lymph nodes removed and is currently under chemotherapy. I’m trying to understand breast cancer more so i can help her ❤
Thank you for your lovely feedback! Well done for helping your Mom! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
I just had my second axillary lymph node surgery and I didn’t even know axillary meant armpit . I have learned so much from this video and feeling relieved that my super sore armpit and arm is normal and will get better .
Thank you for your lovely feedback Jamie! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Great information, Thank you for doing this video. You mention exercising being important but can you tell which exercise other than touching the are lightly, will help.
Really needed to hear this thank you ❤
Hi, thank you for your lovely feedback and sorry for my slow reply! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank you for this information! At a 12 month check up with the physician's assistant, I discussed the numbness and was sent to a lymphedema specialist. I did have physical therapy, which was very helpful. But it would have been even more beneficial to have been made aware of the possibility of numbness in the post surgery appointments with my surgeon. THANK YOU!!!
Hi Carol, so glad you found this video helpful! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Very clear, understand things more,thank you
Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Wow, another great video. My medical team was very good but I didn't get any of this information from them. Thanks so much.
Thank you Melanie! Jen :)
Thanks for providing these informative, well presented videos, I am 4 weeks out of surgery (mastectomy and axilliary dissection) and your professional guidance and expertise is very helpful as I start on the road to healing and recovery. I'm feeling much more confident about managing and working through post-surgery issues such as numbness, cording and reduced range of motion. Thank you so much - will be watching for more!
Hi Suzette! Thank you so much for watching my videos and your lovely feedback. I really appreciate it! So glad your confidence has improved from the content. I hope you continue to go well! Jen
Thanks for explaining❤
Great information and advice thankyou 👍 🙏 😀
Hi Carillon, thank you for your lovely feedback. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank you so much for providing some important informations.❤
Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
27 months to the day that I had a mastectomy and all lymph nodes removed and still numb under the arm. Glad to be numb in the expected places! Great video, thank you x
Hi! Thanks for your feedback! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Mine numbnesses lasted 4 years . I had surgery and lymph removed bc it was protocol where I did. It came out clear but I had numbness over years and pain under my arms was a constant. Recently went away . Radiations has short and long term side effects . Like chemo it is also toxic.
Thank you for your wonderful videos….not only are you charming, but *most* informative, too! Three weeks ago I had a single mastectomy with 1 sentinel lymph node removed and just last night I realized I’ve developed cording. 😬 I intend to watch your videos on this topic, too! Even though it’s only been 3 weeks, I have been experiencing precisely those odd, “tingley” flashes of sensation around the area where my breast was reconstructed: I actually has a procedure called a Goldilocks so I have a small mound of re-purposed tissue still remaining. I was very glad to hear you say that this is the symptoms of nerve regeneration, as I had suspected. 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Amoreena! So sorry for my delayed reply. Thank you so much for your lovely feedback on the videos. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank You So Much I'M A Couple Of Days In This Was So Helpful
Hi! Very sorry for my slow reply - just catching up on RUclips comments tonight finally. So glad this video resonated with you. Really appreciate the positive feedback! Jen
Very informative. Thanks
Thankyou for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank you beautiful lady, I believe you’ve just given me a bit of mental relief. Whew! 😻
9 days out of DMX and this is a very helpful video. It's numb but also hurts!!
Hi Lisa, yes the numbness can be profound but is normal and typically improves as the months pass. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thank you so much for brilliantly informative presentation.
My surgeon did not mention any of this.
I had right breast mastectomy three months ago and I have numbness exactly as you described it.
Wonderful to hear that perhaps next by this time, it will be gone.
Shall start serious massage.
So blessed to have come across this video of yours.
God bless you.
Renu Roy from Germany
Hi Renu! So sorry for my delayed reply. Thank you for your positive feedback. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
this was so helpful. thank you.
My pleasure Sarah! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Watching this, crying and then laughing on that deodorant part. I had my MRM on Sep 6, 2021, and radiation ended on 7 Dec 2021. Thank you for giving us hope for recovery. Greetings from Indonesia
My pleasure Amatullah! My patients and I often laugh about the deodorant story too hehe! Glad you are finding these videos helpful! Jen x
My feeling came back almost exactly 2 years later
Thank you so much! Finally my questions have been answered thoroughly. I am 3 weeks after lumpectomy and sentinel biopsy, 11 lymph nodes have been removed and i have been searching answers to this numbness and pain feeling and finally i got a good explanation, thank you for making videos, it really helps alot.
Thank you for the lovely feedback Sofie! Really appreciate it! I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you, i will check it out.
Hi yes very helpful I am 11 days post op for lumpectomy and lymph node surgery and yes m armpit to elbow issues numb also particularly odd my neck to ear feels odd but not exactly numb. I am hopeful that the feeling comes back eventually
Thankyou so much. I had no idea and was in the dark.
Thank you,so helpful.
Thank you for your lovely feedback Nancy. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
5 yrs on i was still suffering nerve pain and 33 yrs later still am except when im in 21 degrees heat.
Thank you so much like some other comments i was never told any of this, has really eased my mind,I am 2 weeks out of surgery and experiencing all these symptoms, Great video deapite my numbness during night i will definately sleep easier, knowledge is bliss😊🙏
Thank you for your lovely feedback Faye! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio13:01
Thank you for the info. I am 5 years out. still some numbness...but still improving
Hi Janet! Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately numbness remains for some people but consider semi regular self massage to help stimulate this area of nerve tissue. Jen x
Thank u so much for sharing very useful ♥️♥️♥️🥀🥀🥀🥰🥰🥰
I had a right right breast mastectomy and 4 lymphnoids taken out 7/27/2022. The pain was horrendous. I cannot explain to you enough how painful this was. I have healed but will never be the same This condition humbled me. It scared me. It made me analyze my life from the beginning of it. The aftermath pain is something that I could never describe or even compare to any other pain on this entire earth!!!!!!!
Hi Cheryl, I am hearing you. I see so many women who have a lot of armpit pain following surgery. Have you seen a trained therapist to help you with these symptoms? I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
I had 14 lymph nodes removed and never had any pain! I don’t know why you had so much?
Ask the surgeon !
@@mechthildschoeberl4839 Everyone has a different reaction but it is more common than not that women experience armpit pain. Jen
@@mechthildschoeberl4839 everyone is different when it comes to pain following surgical procedures. Sadly a lot of patients do ask their Medical Professionals are don't get answers.
Thank you for this information. Actually, I feel a bit of sensation on where my breast used to be. Sometimes, it itches and I reached for my breast and I realized, oh it's not there anymore. I think this what they call phantom feeling. For me, this is not a negative thing. It's telling me that I still have that sensation. Again, thanks for the talk.
I feel that too. Oh so something like that exits.
Thank you I was wondering what was going on. I've been massaging my arms and armpits along with purchasing a compression bra and these things have made a great deal of difference. The numbness is nearly all gone.
How are you doing now? Did your arm go back to 100%?
@@accidentsafe Not on their own unfortunately I had to begin physical therapy in June of this year, because I began reconstructive surgery after the earlier DMX. In the Fall I had a DIEP surgery, which left a great deal of trauma to my underarm, arms, and torso areas. I had a great deal breast tissue in my underarm areas and numbness from in my arms after the 11 hour surgery. Physical therapy has been tremendous in giving me back usage and fluid release. Restoring some sensation is an added bonus. You might want to discuss with your doctors on seeing a specially physical therapist who is trained as a BC PT. The best of luck to you.
Oh wow this was sooo informative - I mentioned my arm yesterday at my assessment but they had no ideas or suggestions - so I decided to stimulate the area with a massage tool - I'm 7 days post opp, but this video has been so informative and now I know I'm at least doing the right thing X
Thank you for your lovely feedback Jenni! So pleased you gained good information from the video. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Excellent! I've sent a request 💜
@@JenniEden You're in! x
This was very informative. Doctors don’t really talk about this kind of thing. I had a mastectomy a month ago and have been doing rehab exercises and I can use my arm almost normally now. The numbness and pain in my arm is gone but my armpit and underarm area is still numb. Thanks for your videos and I’ll watch the one you mentioned about the cording.
You're so welcome ST Channel! Yes, this is another side effect not discussed in much detail. I believe our Doctors need an up-skilled Nurse that can fill in the information gaps because a lot of Doctors don't have time for all of the other issues that can pop up. Jen x
Have you heard of patients having the cording before they ever had lymph node surgery? I had cording 3 weeks before I had my mastectomy
Thank you thank you thank you! Finally an explanation of why I’m feeling this numbness and shooting pain/sensation under my arm. My surgeon didn’t mention any of this pre or post op and I was very frustrated with the lack of information. This is going to help so many others who were uninformed of this side effect. Is there a specific timeline after surgery when I can start massaging?
Hi Amy, thank you so much for the positive feedback. Really appreciate it. Massaging the armpit can start once your wounds are healed (approx 4 weeks post surgery), and as long as there is no infection / seromas. If unsure check with your medical team. Jen :)
Hi Jen really do appreciate the info shared. I had undergone bilateral mastectomy it's now 3 weeks plus. I have been experiencing numbness in the armpit and below the side walls of the breast. Fluid was aspirated n now I see a bulge again. Is this normal to still have fluid after 3 weeks. The area is numb too. Kindly advice
When and how should I start exercising ? I used 1kg dumbles before surgery.I am 72 and want to go back to my routine as soon as possible. Mastectomy in April,4 doses chemo and I'm fine.During this period I exercised my arms as my surgent adviced. But now I want to use dumbles. Thank you.
My numbness and strange sensations are in my non-cancer side.
I do brest canser exercises in the morning and in the evening Lymphatic drainage massage is it Ok.
Thank you, Jen for detailed explanation of the numbness and how the body works to heal itself. Does it also hold true for peripheral nerve damage from chemo?
Hi, as far as I am aware, yes. Peripheral nerve tissue can regenerate but in both cases (arm numbness from surgery, and hands/feet from chemo) may never resolve for some people. I have an Online Workshop Recording that you can purchase on Treatment Options for Peripheral Neuropathy. Let me know if you'd like the link. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Does anyone report a feeling of having a rash besides the numbness?
Thank u Madam for good information. I am facing same problem after right axillary lymphadenectomy, 17 nodes removed. Now I feel happy that I have chances of regaining my sensation back. I will work on that.
Glad this video resonated with you! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Another fab video! Thank you!
Poss a video idea? - My Ulnar nerve was damaged with lymph node clearance - any specific tips for helping it heal? My overall arm sensation is improving (10months post surgery) but having issues with my pinky & ring finger on that side and grip
Hey Ali! Thank you so much for your positive feedback. Really appreciate it! I am going to do more videos on Peripheral Neuropathy (which is also nerve damage from chemo) and the treatment techniques I cover should apply to your situation. Jen
Thank you for this video! But my numbness is actually behind my armpit below my shoulder blade. I figured it was because of the surgery, nerves, etc...
Hi Susan, Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
In two days I have a lumpectomy. My surgen didn't tell me ANYTHING about numbness in my arm.
I’m 15 months post BMX. I had a numb or really sensation less area for over a year in the medial upper arm area. My acupuncturist has worked on it for 3 months and my sensation is finally returning. If you are experiencing this, find a great acupuncturist.
Hi Alynda, glad to hear the sensation is returning, just be cautious with skin penetration on the same side of lymph node removal for risk of infection.
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio we are. Thank you so much!
What's interesting is that, while numbness was the usual, but 17 years later I'm having shooting pains periodically from axilla to upper arm. I use capsaicin for relief.
Hi Cat Mom, again my apologies for my delayed reply. Shooting pains may also be from scar tissue, which can be settled with scar massage. If nerves were growing back it would be atypical for them to still be growing back at the 17 year post treatment mark. Jen
Just had surgery three weeks today..i was told i would never get feeling back and this is my life. Me what. I wasn't told either and i kept asking my mom and aunt whats under my arm. I thought i had been cut there to. This video helped me alot today. I was worried if i could lay on my side or massage it would it harm me.
I experience a burning sensation under my arm. Is that normal?
Thank you for the video, very usual. I was not told about massaging. Nearly 5 years on and am still numb in my arm pit and have some fluid I think. Is that normal? Thank you
Hi G, unfortunately not everyone experiences return of skin sensation. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Almost 5 weeks post-op and I still have some pain and swelling where the 4 nodes came out and my sternum still hurts, like some one punched me . 😞
I had 13 taken out. Still numb will it be like this forever ? I can’t reach properly too
Jen, thanks a ton. I had 42 nodes removed, it's been 2 months and I have a marginal swelling. I am doing exercises and massage regularly. I have full range of rotation in my arms. Do u think I will be able to manage my lymphedema in this way
Hey Jen! Great video I’ve had Thoracic Outlet syndrome for years and was recently diagnosed with many tumors and some in my armpits. They’re most likely non cancerous however I’m wondering if these armpit tumors have been casing my numbness, pain, and tingling in my arms for years. Going to my doctor later this week she said because they’re almost all giant fibroadenomas we will remove them. Does this sounds like a possible cause for the numbness?
Hi Madison, so sorry for my delayed reply. It is very possible that the tumors in the armpit have caused your symptoms. You may get relief in the arm symptoms once the tumors are removed and that will answer the question. If you've had breast cancer I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Why is there numbing in the scar tissue after mastectomy ? It seems to be helped by Musclemilk. What else can be done to stop this harding pain. Thanks Doro
I am 4 years on from lumpectomy and 3 nodes removed and I am still numb partial under arm and part of back of shoulder.
I hope this video was helpful for you. Jen x
This was very informative. Does the hard scar tissue ever get soft?
Hi Rachael, thanks for watching and for your question. Hard scar tissue can become softer but sometimes it takes a lot of hard work to improve the tissue flexibility. I must say hard work usually pays off with scar tissue. Jen
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio do you have a video how to do that? Thank you
Very informative; thank you!! Fantastic information!!
Dear Jen. 6 weeks after lumpectomy and lymph node removal and today I found thia video. Now i know why my armpit is numb. My surgeon never explained this at all and i was beginning to wonder what was wrong. This should be told to us by our doctors.
Hi, so sorry for my delayed reply. Thank you for your comment and positive feedback. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you. I have just applied to join.
I find this happens still when I get swelling and fluid pocketed there in overnight
My numbness is in my breast, and this happened slowly over the year. I had cancer 25 years ago and the fibrosis start about one year after. Now it is already under my arm and armpit, maybe in its way to my arm and shouder. I am very concerned in what will gonna happen to me. 🙄
Hi Jenny, I suggest you seek a referral to a Specialist (most likely a Neurologist) who can perform Nerve Conduction Studies to see where and why you're experiencing increasing numbness. I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Hi I would like to know why my toes fingers an tongue still have a tingling feeling after my chemo
Hi, I would discuss this with your Medical Team. It depends on how long following Chemotherapy you are still experiencing these symptoms as to whether they're normal. Although I would say in my clinical experience it isn't typical that people have tingling in their tongue following chemotherapy. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
I had breast cancer operation in September 2022. I am still sore in the region where the drainage system was put in near my armpit. I also had a blocked drain from the day of the operation and I am swollen under my arm and feels like a ball is under my arm. I have Cerebral Palsy. So my mastectomy was on the left side and my water gathered in my cur. I told the doctor three times the drain didn't work. Is that why I have this swelling. Some said i have scar tissue others say fatty tissue and tell me the operation will be major and will hamper me. I am also trying to keep my home which the manager of theh retirement village wants me out. She is causing me stress. I am having to look for a new home off the property. I also have a mother of 93 wanting me to leave the retirement village. She is stuck in the home where we are struggling to pay. I want her to come with me. How can I reduce the stress so I don't reaccur.
It's been over a year, and I am still experiencing numbness with occasional strong aching pains.
Hi Joyce, thanks for your comment. Strong aching pains can be very normal if you haven't had Physiotherapy / Physical Therapy treatment. Have you been seeing any therapists to assist with the pains? The numbness can often take over 12 months to come back and occasionally some women will report the feeling does not return.
I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
I had my left breast removed had cancer in the lump wot can I use for the numbness under the arm.
Hi Lorraine, I would just start by touching the area to encourage blood flow and to desensitize the area. I would use a very basic moisturizer that is low pH and water based. Make sure you do a spot test to confirm you're not allergic to any product. Light massage should help stimulate blood flow and therefore nerve regeneration. I hope this helps. Jen
What exercises should we be doing for the arm?
Hi Moira, I've done an earlier video on Upper Body Strength Exercises After Breast Cancer if you're at the stage of moving back into exercise. I've also done earlier videos on Range of Motion following surgery. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Thanks for that info. Just wanted to ask, my lumpectomy was three and a half years ago, my arm and armpit have been numb since the surgery and both are still the same, no improvement at all over this time. I also have lymphoedema so the area does get regular massaging, I also exercise 3-4 time per week. Is it normal that there has been no improvement? The area is also quite painful 24/7
Thanks so much for your advice
Hi Jen! So sorry for my slow reply. Are you asking about the lack of improvement with the numbness or the Lymphoedema or both? The numbness unfortunately can be permanent for some people. Jen x
The pain is most likely secondary to scar tissue. Have you had any treatment by a Physiotherapist who specializes in Breast Cancer for your pain?
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio hi, thanks for your reply. I guess I must be one of the ones where the nerve damage doesn’t repair itself. I lymph drainage monthly and do a lot of MLD myself but have never seen anyone for the numbness or pain. I guess after a while I’ve just put up with it
My armpit is numb but it’s the back of my arm( triceps) that is numb also
Hi and thanks for watching the video! It's not common that the tricep area is numb but possible following surgery. The inside of the upper arm is commonly numb. You could get referred to a Neurologist for Nerve Conduction Tests to get further information. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Is this normal, my right hand has mussel deteration and I can't used my hand is the normal
Hi Susan, no that is not normal following Breast Cancer treatment. I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to answer questions and provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Hello dr hope i get reply from you because i have some concerns i was diagnosed with breast cancer stage one grade 2 in 2018 Invasive ductal carcinoma, moderately differentiated, SBR grade 2, i had 3 lymph nodes removed one sentinel and two non sentinels negative
my therparist told me that i should be very careful because i had 4 weeks radiotherapy so may be that caused more damage to the lymph nodes
my question is that in such condition for how long my this hand or arm can’t be used for bp checkup , blood collection , canola uses etc plz reply i will be grateful
Hi, once lymph nodes are removed and radiation has been performed on the chest wall / armpit region, guidelines suggest to avoid blood draws, blood pressure cuff testing, injections / infusions and so on, on the affected arm for life. I have a Private Facebook Group 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank u so much 💐i do not have fb account but can follow u on instagram if there is any account it’s will be great to follow u there also
My issue is the tingling in my fingers. I already did OT and it helped a bit but I’m back to Zero what can I do. I feel like the exercises I was given aren’t helping😏
Hi Anny, I am SO sorry for my very slow reply. If you have tingling in the fingers this may be due to either carpal tunnel or nerve impingement coming from your cervical spine (neck). It would be best to discuss this with your GP and request scans to clarify a diagnosis. Armpit scar tissue shouldn't cause fingers to tingle. Did you get peripheral neuropathy from Chemotherapy? That can also be a cause of tingling in the fingers.
I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a Global Online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
Hii please help me , my mma getting fluid again n again after breast surgery n I dont understand what to do Dr said to operate for fluid is is reight
Hi Unnati, before I answer your question can you first let me know what 'mma' means or stands for? Jen
Thank you, this is so on point but I do want to ask about numbness on the side of the breast. My numbness goes from the armpit down to the entire side of my breast. My breast is also very sore, could it be scar tissue? Appreciate your feedback, thank you..
Hi Sonia, thanks for your question! It is highly likely this is numbness secondary to the surgery. Breast pain is typical after lumpectomy (and radiation) because of scar tissue. If you can start treating the scar tissue at home or with a Physio that works with Breast Cancer patients I would recommend that. I have other videos on how to treat breast pain and scar tissue. Jen x
@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you so much! I'm watching your videos and started massaging as you've recommended and I've noticed less soreness already. So so helpful!!
Hello Dr. Double Mastectomy, possible nodes removed, 8 days since surgery, is it normal to still feel numbness on side of breast under arm or is it to early to expect any normalcy in that area? Please Dr. Would like your expertise.
Hi Nora, as explained in the video, numbness in the armpit is completely normal for many months following surgery. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity
I had lumpectomy and removed only the first one and two nodes for sentinel lymph node biopsy,23 days ago.
My underarm,and on the side of arm is swallen,I feel heavy tension when my arm is down,also I feel discomfort, numbness,tingling and everything is very tight...is it normal for armpit to be swallen after this procedure for longer period of time?
Hi, sorry for my delayed reply. I would suggest you touch base with your Breast Surgeon. It is possible your symptoms are normal but check in with the Surgeon. Have you been seen by a Physiotherapist? Jen