ralfy review 879 Extras - Comments on GlenScotia 'Victoriana' single malt.
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Hi Ralfy, for me Glen Scotia is real underrated treasure. Love their Double cask, Victoriana and 15 yo is amazing. From my resources that I found (from person who visit the distillery) the main line recipe is:
Double Cask - approx 5 yo: 5% peated barley. 1st fill American oak main maturation, 6 months first fill PX casks, 12 months 2nd fill Oloroso casks.
Victoriana - approx 12 yo: 5% peated barley. 1st fill American oak main maturation, then 30% spirit goes to PX and 70% goes to 12 months heavy charred re-fill cask maturation.
15 yo - 5% peated barley. re-fill American oak main maturation, last 6 weeks first fill Oloroso casks.
Cheers mate.
Further info from Roy Aquavitae:
"Typically" it is:
70% 10yo first fill bourbon
10% 12yo first fill bourbon
20% 16-18yo refill American and European
These are vatted and filled into 30% first fill PX hogsheads/butts and 70% heavily charred American for another 12 months.
Then vatted again (!) and put into "inert" 3rd or 4th refill barrels to let it "marry for a bit longer".
Phew.
Honestly for the price and quality, that is a LOT of work and internal expense. I’m grateful they are so committed to the craft and intent on making a name for the brand at a reasonable cost to the consumer. Well done Glen Scotia. Well done. Full support.
So an 11yo then, maybe 12. Not that it really matters a great deal.
At 12.02 there’s definitely the sound of a cockerel crowing…….either that or it’s Big Clive doing a Chicken tear down in the back room.
Years later! Ralphy you’re still doing these reviews. Love your reviews man. Each review feels like I’m having a personal conversation with you, and drinking scotch. I hope you never stop doing these.
Even experienced malt mates could consider this a review. Let's not mistake it for anything less!
Ralfy recommended, even praised. I can appreciate the consideration.
Well done.
To me a malt mark is the least useful bit of info. It's but a shortcut, an executive summary, confirming what I see during the tasting. I derive far more by reading between the lines. That is why I've been suggesting that he could review the NAS releases that he likes and just not mark them.
I wanted to thank you, Ralfy, for pointing this gem out. Been enjoying it for weeks now. I’ve also found it great for blending up other sherries whiskies. Thank you for keeping us in the know.
Ralfy...I've learnt so much from you during my whisky journey over the last few years, since I've really 'got into' whisky. Thanks for being my captain and steering me through the sea of wonderful liquid gold!
Thank Ralphy for having already a botle of this reserved on my usual shop.. Cheers!
We got the 54.2% in Ontario, Canada last year and it's fantastic.
And at $99 fairly priced.
Fascinating! Looking forward to swilling my non aged stated bottles. It was your brother Bigclive that led me here but I also have a love for whisky. You guys are my favourite channels on RUclips.
Enjoyed that one sir! Nice bit of knowledge and banter! Cheers!
I do not drink any alcholoic beverages. Full stop. However, I can listen to you for hours and hours. Expert in your field.
Yes very true. Though I have some Scotch left I'm thinking of quitting the booze, but I will continue to listen to this for years for the passion and energy.
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Ralfy, just bought this 51.5% Victoriana after enjoying their 15 year bottling. Really enjoying this baby and all those deep, delicious flavors. Cheers!
Great info Ralfy, been adding one or two Glen Soctia to my collection just lately, this whisky has been on my radar glad you did this review it will be on the shelf soon.
Sipping the first batch, 54.8%. Very good dram, itchy, grumpy, spiky, full bodied quality-malt. Nice to play with water. And by the way: a good, informativ and entertaining xtra, Ralphy. Thank you. In a nice region of Germany we would say "en klore Kerl"
Dear Ralfy, Thank you for this fantastic piece of information on one of my favourites from Glen Scotia. Immediately poured myself a dram to watch and nose along with you! That’s the kind of pearl necklace I really like 😇
Ralfy, I'm really envious of the pleasure you got from tasting that particular single malt. Your words painted such a picture in mind I'm now off to see if I can find a bottle of it - online of course!
Your reviews are so informative, I love all the "in trade" secrets you bring to our attention and what a way you have with words. Thank you for sharing all this.👍
Same thing here. I ordered one yesterday and should have it today. I got it for a hunting trip next week. I hope I can keep from opening it before then. $88USD
This was a really interesting video. I really enjoyed the information and it has made me look at NAS whisky in a new light. Thanks Ralfy
This is your best video, full stop. The knowledge is relentless. I own two bottles and haven’t tasted it yet.
I bought a bottle of the 25 year old Glen Scotia last year for my 25th birthday. It was the best whisky i've ever owned.
Hi ralfy
Hope you are doing great, I couldn't help but say I recommended this Glen Scotia victoriana to you months ago when you were drinking the Glen Scotia 15 year old, the victoriana is one of very few bottles that I have on my bar that's a nas. I simply stumbled upon, it is now one of my favorites out of 200 + bottles, I love it !! Ralfy I recently joined your patreon channel, can you check to see if on your end this is the case, I want to make sure that the money is going to you and not some scam people, because I don't join just any you-tuber, you are the only one I have ever joined, just because you are the only one who I trust in when doing a review, your batting 100 in my books, and your scores are the best on RUclips reviews of single malt scotch, cheers ralfy and keep the great videos coming !!!
. . . happy to share the malt-moments !
Just got a bottle on your recommendation. I have to say it is lovely, moving from Laphroaig 10 year that was my go-to single malt. Thanks, Ralfy.
Glen Scotia 15 became quickly a favorite of mine and can go along in quality with springbank 15 in my opinion. I put 3 bottles in my stash.
I got both GS15 & SB15 in my "stash" too. Hi5! 🙌🥃🔥
Me too. Thankfully.
Absolutely. I'm hoping it stays under the radar and doesn't get the price and availability hit that Springbank now has! 🤞🏻
Great review, thanks for providing Whisky U. Ralfy!
I asked about this little gem recently under your 2022 “3 luxury whiskies” episode. Thank you, this extras is ace 🙌.
Really interesting this. Big fan of Glen Scotia and the complexity of older and younger whisky mixed together really help bring a wonderful element to it. GlenScotia Victoriana is one of the best NAS bottles out there. Cheers.
Great info, Ralfy. Thank you for the insight on the NAS versions. Definitely didn't know about this.
-Alex
Absolutely love this dram from Glen Scotia, I'll always ensure I have a bottle of Victoriana in my home bar
There's só much things to say or comment about this video. The information, the knowledge, but I just say one thing. Thank you, Thank you Ralfy
Loved this bottle! Should have bought a backup!
I enjoyed hearing about some of the reasons why NAS might exist, that it's not always done for the wrong reasons. I really wish they could disclose the cask ages other than just the youngest. How fun that would be for us anoraks.....
Met the guys from Glen Scotia a couple of years ago at the Whisky Fringe, great guys, and the six year old was an excellent dram.
Just had my first dram of this malt. Ralfy of course is always spot on.
Bottled here in the States at 54.2%.
A very complex spirit. Not for novice whisky tasters!
Allowed to breathe with the addition of purified water for apx 30 minutes this whisky delivers an abundance of deep earthy flavor. Fresh cut grass and pure unrefined, raw honey. Slightly reminiscent of Springbank 10 which we unfortunately cannot find here anymore....
A beautiful fusion of the land and the Sea ! ...
The green bottle suggesting ties to Islay ...
A very complex dry whisky..
It’s not a different bottling for the states. It’s the recent bottling since 2019. Older versions had two different abvs.
Victoriana is first matured in American Oak casks (probably refill) and then 70% is finished in recharred casks and 30% finished in PX casks.
Love the rooster crowing in the background. 2006 Peated Glen Scotia 12yr single ex bourbon cask CS is absolutely fantastic. Have one bottle of three left. Think they are putting these out every year and are worth seeking out. Ordered my first Victoriana last week. Really looking forward to trying it soon.
Thanks for bringing an NAS whisky to the Extras. Some are indeed worth the price. Cheers!
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This is 💯 %. I had victoriana last year. I immediately had to pick up another. Glad I did because it’s no longer available in Ontario.
very nice review...ty 4 that.
have the Glen Scotia Double Cask with 46%, also a very interesting, well done single malt. Also NAS , but sure not young..!
While I fully support transparency and hence welcome any age statement, it must be said that recent SWA regulations make it harder for producers to fairly label their malts when blending casks of different ages just as seems to be the case with the Victoriana. Compass Box's 'Three Year Old Deluxe...' put its finger exactly in this wound. It's quite schizzophrenic that you can put your composition on your website, e.g Compass Box, Bruichladdich, but not on the label.
You can't put it on the website either, or anywhere. Check Bruichladdich's website. In a given batch, the vintage of all casks besides the youngest are redacted.
@@bigwhiggler9614 noticed this myself about a year ago ? Glad that Bruichladdich left black rectangles where the age of the other casks were in the chart to show that they were censored. It's just ridiculous to punish transparency.
. . . I agree.
Thanks, everyone! Ralfy, this is exactly why reviews like this one are valuable, even without a malt mark. A "Ralfy-recommended" is far more information than age statement and SWA can't censor that!
Victoriana was my first Campbeltown bottle. 51.5% version for under $80 US just after Xmas last year. While I do want a couple more bottles in the stash I also still need to get something from Springbank and Kilkerran. You are quite correct on the notes. For me it came across as chocolate covered cherries kind of sweetness and cheesecake like richness and holds up to water with ease. Easily in the top 3 of the bottles I have experienced. I tried some at the store I bought at as they had a newly open bottle and it was quite reminiscent of Remy Martin VSOP at first.
Ralfy effect. Got the last bottle in my area. Amazing stuff. Great. review btw.
Ive had this. Its great stuff. I vividly remember a pronounced waxy character to this for some reason.
Interesting about using legs to hint at age, I’ve always used them to try and determine how “filtered” something was or for ABV Viscosity in blind tastings not for a guide on Age very interesting. Cheers ralfy
Really curious about this one, and even more so now. I bought the 15 YO after your review and it is truly magnificent. You have yet to steer me wrong, sir. Slainté, you Malty Jedi Master. 😉🥃
Hi Ralfy, excellent review with super background Information. I really enjoyed. Thank god I have on bottle of Victoriana in my stash. The only thing that is missing is the malt mark. Be fair, Ralfy. This whisky deserves a malt mark from you. Cheers from your malt mate im Bonn
Hast been on my „To buy list“ for quite some time and may need to be moved to my short list. Thank you for your thoughts on this bottling.
Victoriana was groundbreaking for me, I was a bit of a age statement snob until I tried it, I started off with a miniature and fell in love and then invested in a bottle, I’m now on my second
Ralfy, just wanted to say I'm loving the book (Search For A Whisky Bothy)! Got it for my birthday, and very well done. Thanks!
. . . thanks for buying my book.
Love the vic I got it 4 years ago at the distillery and i had tasted the whole core range including the 25 and this that the most bang for the buc
Amazing information thank you 🙏🏽
First, thank you for all that great content you are putting out there, Ralfy. I'm a keen follower. I came back to this review now that I have bought a botle of Victoriana, and just noticed that you mention a volium of 51.5% alcohol, while on the botle of Victoriana I've bought it says 54.2%! While it is a decent Whisky, it is not as good as you discribe it. A different batch, a different experience...
I was going to write a big spiel here but at the end of the day I might as well just say I agree with everything you said about Glen Scotia, the Victoriana and multiple age statements on bottles.
I bought a bottle of Victoriana a couple of years ago and was thoroughly impressed with it, reaching the same conclusion that there must be a mix of old and young whisky in it, about the only good way to make a NAS whisky IMO.
Hello Ralfy, It's been a while but I had to come back to your Magnificent extras 879. I happened to get 2 bottles of Glen Scotia Victoriana at 51.5% and then the 54.2% came on the scene, well I was heartbroken as I tried a 54.2% and was very disappointed so, as things turn out I ended up with 2 bottles of 54.2% at an incredibly great price so I took them and was trying the neck pour and listening to your extras and realized that this Victoriana was quite worthy of the nomination the it had for whisky of the year in the 2022 OSWAS. my first 54.2% wasn't the dram I have now. Oh my, this is absolutely beautiful. Not the 51.5% that I still have 2 unopened bottles of(as pre your fine recommendation). But in it's own right, wonderful. I thank you so much for the understanding that you impart. Glen Scotia had a hiccup cause the 2019 release of the victoriana was no the same as the 2022. However I blended it with Campbeltown Festival 2020 and the 15yr old so it's still pure!? the 2022 release of Victoriana is Fabulous! Thank you for reminding me.
. . . all in the journey !
I decided to buy another bottle of Bunna 12 (11 months since last) after been drinking this and that, including 10 and 12 year old whiskies under 46%. I was mostly focusing on the flavour this time, and can honestly confirm that chill filtration DOES affect the flavour.. it becomes less oily. I remember google-ing 'chill filtration' while ago and saw opinions from distillers , that has to mean something if the masters themselves claim it affects the texture.
Wow! Ralfy reviewed and recommended a NAS whisky. It must be really good!
I'm usually not one for the peated malts - but I must say I do enjoy the this one
Purchased a bottle from the good spirits company in glasgow today , now 54.2% and also natural colour as well!
Great "review" :-) - In Denmark this one is priced at almost GBP 70,00 - which I do find a bit steep for a non-age - even though it seems good.
Yes, yes, it all makes sense now!! The old Pearl necklace!...
The nose alone is testament to this fine drop its 50 plus abv and it just sings vanilla and hints of sherry its a great drop.
I have a bottle with 51,5% in front of me an and it says on the label (due to German law) that the Whisky is filled with sugar colouer. Despite that it´s an interesting and delicious dram. Thank you for sharing, Ralfy.
Hi, Ralfy and guys, I got a problem, see if anyone can explain. I first opened a bottle of Glen Scotia 14yo Tawny Port Limited Campbeltown Malts Festival 2020 52.8% 9 months ago (it's late spring time around 27°C in my town). It was full of aroma of sea spray, rosehip, savoury plum and a finish of dry mouth feel that you get by drinking tea. It's superb. Thus, I only have a wee sip every time, around 10cl consumed until now. Stored in a dark and wooden cupboard. However, when I pour another dram 1 month ago, it changes significantly (in a worst way). It became a dram with strong alcoholic month feel, all the good aroma and flavors I mentioned have gone, only a hint of orange peel and citrus note remained. I guess this is close to the taste of the 'naked' Glen Scotia distillate without the Tawny port influence. As a result, I tried to open a sealed new bottle of the same single malt (Glen Scotia 14yo Tawny Port Limited Campbeltown Malts Festival 2020 52.8%), and hoped to blend both of them in a small sample bottle, so as to 're-activate' the bad one with the fresh and good one. After 2 weeks of waiting, nothing has changed and I am still figuring out what's the problem? It seems that the flavors of single malts that 'finish' in port casks can be gone quite soon. One thing I do now is to apply wine preserver to all of my opened 'port finish' malts. Does anyone have the same experience? Cheers.
Fantastic whisky!
Also there seems to be three versions. The “Original” at 51.5 abv. (@2015),then there was a batch 001 Cask Strength 54.8 only for one year (2018), and Cask strength 54.2 (2019-present).
I have only had the most recent. No idea if the others are much different or better.
Producing with the roosters, Ralfy. Like a rockstar making a studio album.
Dear Ralfy: first of all, I want to say that I thoroughly enjoy you videos, I learn a lot from them. Sorry for the long comment.
I would like to offer a different opinion on the issue of non age statement whiskies. As you mention in your videos, the whisky world, and to a greater extant the malt enthusiast world, is getting smaller and flatter. Like many others, I now do most of my malt purchases online, after doing some online research (in which your opinion often carries a lot of weight). In this era, malt mates around the globe are connected and views and opinions on whiskies spread throughout this global community rapidly. This phenomenon created a “buyer’s market”, in which while distilleries, especially the smaller more exotic ones, have access to a wider audience, malt mates have a lot more to choose from and can easily access information. This, in turn, should push distilleries to become more “honest” and market better products. A small, exotic, distillery cannot afford to market a bad bottling these days, as it can likely damage the distillery’s reputation and damage sales of all its bottlings. A non age statement bottling can allow a distillery to creatively use its inventory, as you described, mixing very old whiskies with younger ones, generating interesting combinations of smell and taste. And all this at (usually) affordable prices since there is no age statement. However, we should not be afraid to try them out. Most of them will be good, some will be excellent. The price for being bad, or even mediocre, is simply too high these days.
Well, I do agree, however there's also a legion of mediocre NAS malts, even from nice distilleries. And the cost of wasting money on them can add up. Mortlach Rare Old, Scapa Skiren are examples. On the other hand I do enjoy Highland Park Dark Origins, maybe not at full price. And Glenlivet Nadurra. And Glenfarclas 105. It's truly a double edged sword and must be taken on a case by case basis.
Ahhh.... just listened more to the speech. Agreed. D&T did this years ago. Were great buys back then.
Had a bottle sitting around and just nabbed another for $60 AUD on clearance. Loved the 15 and can't wait to open it up
Hey malt mate where did you get so luck? Dan Murphy? Everywhere i see it is going for more than AUD 150.
Im glad I got a couple of bottles of this stuff before it sold out. Ive always been a bit wary of NAS whisky but Campbeltown seems to be an exception does it not, judging by this one and the peated Longrow.
Like this drum (cask strenght 54.2%) and for me it was excellent with a teespoon of mineral (carbonated) water. Then, I was consuming in parallel Redbreast 12 which I enjoyed more.
Its a NAS but i have some info that the Victoriana is consisting of a mariage of malts aged from 12 to 16 years. I have the cask strenght version 54.2 abv and is a cracking whisky. It will allways be on my bar. The guys from Glen Scotia know's their stuff!!!
I don’t know, it’s about the same price as the 15 where I am. I would assume that if it were that straightforward that they would have it priced significantly lower than the fullbred 15 year. After tasting it I feel that Ralfy is right, there is some 18-21 year old whisky in there adding the tobacco and leather notes. I think this bottle is basically the blender showing off his skills. Too bad they can’t disclose the recipe.
Dear all. If you go to High Coast distillery they declare the recipies of their different batches. Really good example on open and interesting info for all us whisky lovers.
Laphroaig is quite open about Laphroaig lore, mainly 15 year old ex bourbon with some 7-8 year old and also 11 and some 21 year old in there. Do you really think it’s in everyone’s best interest for them to put 7-8 years on the bottle when the majority of the whisky is 15 years old but the 8 and 11 are in there because it’s the flavor profile they want. I don’t think anyone would buy it.
Totally agree. John Campbell explains the ages in the lore all the time on lives. Just did it again tonight for laphroaig late for feis ile. He just doesn’t go into the ratios as much though I do remember him giving approx numbers once. Love the lore and love laphroaig! Great videos ralphy
If they had full transparency though they wouldn't necessarily have to highlight the youngest in there. They could show the full recipe and use it as part of the packaging and marketing - there's really no excuse!
@@riancreamer6904 as Ralfy was saying, legally they can’t.
Age statement is the biggest hoax
@@onearthonelegion sometimes yes and sometimes no. I understand the need currently because of the conditioning by the big distilleries. But I think we need to start finding the best whiskies, no matter what’s on the bottle
Hi Ralfy! I was interested in your comment about fatigued casks, because I don't think I really quite understand what makes an effective cask. You mentioned that typically they've been filled a few times before - is a good cask only good once? Maybe a topic for a future extras, or if you've talked about this already, maybe a fellow malt-mate can help me out here! Great video as always!
I really enjoyed the 15 yo Glen Scotia, I'll have to keep an eye out for this one...
Lots of Ginger spice and chocolate truffles (with a touch of smoke) in the GS15; quite a unique taste!!
do I hear rooster background noise or is the wee dram effect? nice and educational video as always :)
Victoriana seems much younger to me. The last bottle I’ll reach for on the shelf.
The Victoriana with 51.5% ABV is an older Bottling/Batch. The newer ones have 54.8 % ABV and labeled as Cask Strength
Actually 54.8 is the one off from 2018 dubbed Batch 001. From 2019 to now it’s 54.2. Also it’s true the 51.5 is the oldest version from @ 2015.
With regards to the plant pot comment, there's a company in Speyside who make drinks cabinets from old casks. I've had one shipped down to England and it's awesome! They're called Barrel Creations.
What about Syd Barrett?
Next bottle will be a glen scotia and it definitely would not have been otherwise. I’ll give it a try
Isn't this the same with age statements? When the distillers have those old casks with 35% alcohol them, they can put them in younger whisky and still put and age statement. On top of that, then they come and tell you how their 12 year old is so much better than others, and image what the 18 or 21 will be. While in fact the 12 has a lot of older casks in it.
Well, I prefer no age statement in this case.
Longrow gold another great NAS
I am enjoying watching this, while enjoying a dram of Glen Scotia 10 peated! As spectacular as Victoriana is, the peated 10yo is superior in my opinion. Would love to see you review it. And by the way, no water on this one Ralphy??
Nice story 😃😃
Almost bought it when it was released earlier this year. I regret it now.
Ralfy, I'd love to get a review from you of a recent bottling of Bruichladdich the Classic Laddie, since their removal of the 10-year age statement. I have heard you mention that you were omitting to review it since it's NAS, but as a matter of fact each bottle has a code on it which when entered on the website will reveal the age of the youngest casks used in the batch.
If it's not stated on the label, he doesn't believe it.
"You're relying on their integrity. I'm not comfortable with that" was literally what he said in this video.
There's no legal contract if it's not on the label.
@@stooge_mobile Their legal commitment to provide accurate information is the same for both website and bottle label. What you quoted from this video pertains to whiskies of which the age isn't known. In whiskies where information (colorant, filtration, etc.) is provided on the tin, but not on the label, for example, it isn't that ralfy refuses to believe it, it's that he feels it's more concrete/accessible when it is featured on the label (e.g. his video on Tomatin 18 year).
Glen Scotia double cask. Is great for the 48.00 here in Ohio. Non chill filtered. Also. But. Non age statement.
Is there any difference in the 2020 release with 54.2% ?
Ralfy, you'd make a great Missourian...we are the SHOW ME state. "Show me...don't tell me." Cheers, my friend! 🥃
Show me a hill, MO!
Well said, my fellow Missouri Mudbug Malt Mate. 🥃 (I sent this one to Ralfy and he used it on one of his reviews a while back....)
@@11thstalley96 I remember that one! Congrats on having your malt mention mentioned! I remember when he did mine...still a special moment.
I am of the opinion that if a distiller offers NAS, they should up the ABV to assure some level of creditability for those of use who pay attention. Just Sayin'.
GlenScotia has so much potential. Return to it’s old glory perhaps?
For me the 15 yr is still the cream of the crop simple
Had a dram last night after some months, what a great malt
@@manuelnaranjo3255 exact same here; after he reviewed this, I had to (somehow) take out my (hibernating) GS15 and pour a dram
🤣🤷♂️🥃🔥
Shoutouts to the rooster(s) in the background
They seem to have quite a lot of casks in the back as the whisky is sold since years, isn`t it? I am confused ...
Hi Ralfy,
What about the Ardbeg Rollercoaster? They were pretty open about the contents with percentages and years. Why can’t this be done more often?
Campbeltown is a safe bet region. Almost every single bottling that comes out of there is at least very good. And you know what? They're all at least 46% and non chill filtered old school malts. It's like using this approach seems to bring good results.
Ralfy, I've got an off topic question for you. I picked up a 5 liter cask (new) as a gift for the Mrs. At first I just thought of it as a lark, not to be taken too seriously. But then I thought again, "hey! this is a real cask with real oak staves. Why not see how this might turn out." While I cannot speak to the quality of the cask, I can introduce something of a quality spirit to it. And so, If it was your new 5 liter cask & you lived in the states, as we do, what might you pick first to age in it. Oh, by the way, the cask is charred. Thanks Ralfy.
Hey Ralfy!!!!! Any plans to review Tomatin 14yr port casks? Thank you for the great content as always!!!
. . . on the List !
I recently bought my first Johnny Walker whiskey which is also my first blended scotch ever. It was the Blue Label Ghost and Rare Glenury Royal. It has several aged spirits in it obviously especially the Glenury Royal that closed in 1985. It has no age statement but has at least some 35+ year old spirits in the blend. What’s your opinion on these blends that have very old whiskey as the staple of these non age statement blends. In Oklahoma USA the bottle runs $389 dollars.
. . . expensive for what they offer !
Between PC 10 Heavily Peated and Glen Scotia Victoriana 54.2% , which one you think is tastier for the next purchase? All the best!