Suikoden V - A Return to Greatness for the Series?
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Where do you think Suikoden V ranks in terms of the series? One of the best? Worst? Somewhere in between?
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It's almost as good as Suikoden 2. I love the music, the characters, the tough recruitment which harps back to the first games and gives a sense of urgency. The formations are great, the world battles are great with the dragon horses and beavers and the ship to ship combat on the river. The characters are awesome and of course the story itself is very very good.
S2>S5>S1>S3>S4>S Tactics.
I don't really have a ranking system for quality, but rather what I enjoyed more. For me, it goes II, I, III, IV then V.
Definitely one of the best offerings of the series. Good review also, though the JP only entry got a fan translation last year. Since S1&2 are getting a remaster though... fans are hoping for a series revival.
I agree with you. Best one on PS2 by far, and really on par with the PS1 games. Even the graphics have aged pretty well, which can't be said for 3 & 4.
For me it's 2, 1, 5.
Hands down it's the best, the story is superb and touching. I always cried on the scene when we found out how Artshat and Ferid died, so heartbreaking 💔 I wish it could remade or played in another modern platform 😢
Ikr. It’s definitely more emotional than the other games because it tackles on family. Sialeed’s death is very bittersweet especially when you find out her motive.
@@777residentevil I still wished that betrayal never happened, but then the game will ended early 🤣
Exactly, that scene is one of the best in a game ever and how do they twist it between Miakis's and Galleon's version also genius.
This is my favourite Suikoden game. I love the story line, game play and they did a great job with the voice acting
The best Suikoden for me. I’ve played 2 and that was definitely good but V just did it for me. Very well-written, deep, complex story with fleshed out characters with different personalities, good voice acting, phenomenal music, fun mini games etc. it’s the perfect formula for a Suikoden game. I know many people have a bias for 2 since it really pulls the nostalgia, but V will always be my favorite for its mature concept. I hope once the remaster of I and II do well, they’ll remaster and port V next.
I love V. Lyon was my favorite character. It's the perfect example of bringing core gameplay mechanics from the original 2D games and modernizing it(for that timeframe). It's a love letter to Suikoden fans, and it's a shame that it's not playable on modern consoles in one way or another. I hope Konami remasters all Suikoden games.
The story and the characters are spectacular! I love this game more than the first game. Suikoden 2 is my favourite, but this is a close second. It's a shame that many fans of the first two games haven't even tried this.
Very true - it definitely got overshadowed by a lot of other stuff.
@@Xygor Such as life)
Completely underrated channel and content.
Love the short and concise recaps and thoughts. And absolutely adore the storyline videos.
It takes me back to those moments as a youngling when these games released. Sitting in front of my tube Tv captivated by the tale put before me.
Keep doing what you do !
Thank you
Thanks Jesse, I really appreciate the praise! Many more to come!
I'm so glad I stumbled across this channel. It's rather amusing that you echoed what I have told other almost word for word. I welcome a difference in opinion so both parties can learn from each other, but sometimes you want to hear someone who completely agrees with you lol
V was definitely a return to form for Suikoden. I would put it after 2. Felt really good to play a great Suikoden again
Probably my favorite following 1 & 2. The worst thing about 5 is that you can't change your clothes (especially even in NG+). Really not a fan of the Prince's main outfit lol.
God I hated that outfit. My best sui game after 1 and 2 tho. I'd like a remake of 5 with the 2d treatment.
The Outfit when you flee the palace was nice. Sadly we never got to choose
Suikoden V was my first and is my favourite game in the series!
Definitely YES, especially after the wreck Suikoden 4 was.
Suikoden 5 is for me the second best in the series, just behind Suikoden 2. I really hope for a remaster of this game.
And also, this game has 2 of my favorite voice actors Karen Strassman (Sialeeds) and Jamieson Price (Georg), thanks to this game I knew Karen's work. And Georg has Algol's voice from SoulCalibur, a character I like a lot too.
For me, Suikoden 3 then Suikoden 5 are the tops for me. Got it on launch day. Loved my teams, I miss these days of gaming. Just not the same nowadays
I've been a hardcore JRPG player since i was a kid, now in my 30s, still playing JPRG a lot, but I didn't finish Suikoden V back then for reason i forgot. Played this game again after Eiyuden, and hands down this is one of the best JRPGs in term of story and SIALEEDS just skyrocketed into the no 1 video game female char of all time, not because of her appearance but because of her personality.
I was really devastated and cried when she died (the last time i cried on video game was yearsss back when Aerith died), i was pretty sure i could save her as i already got all 108 chars.
Her death was so tragic as she's the true hero who saved both Prince and Lym and she loved them more than any chars in the game, but at the end only a handful of ppl knew this and she was branded as traitor forever :( :( :(
My first suikoden was 4, and I viewed it as... fine, but heavily flawed. My second was V, and I loved it. I loved it enough to check out the others (currently going through 1, went through tierkreis and... don't play tierkreis). Fantastic game, fantastic jrpg, not the best in the genre but it is a super fun romp through this world and a fun time in general. Way better than 4.
Also protip for anyone new: the royal knights (except debatably kyle) are all pretty OP, so a good formation is prince, 3 guards, Vikki, and then Murdercaster 9000. Dualcasts from vikki and Murdercaster 9000 will typically 1-shot entire groups of enemies, while Vikki's double casts will obliterate most everything else. Combined with some guard knights for melee output and you'll be ripping through groups with ease.
4:45 - One minor correction there. It's actually similar to Suikoden II not the first game. The first game had army battles that played out similar to duels with an RPS mechanic, while Suikoden II was the first game to have you take direct control of your units and move them around the battlefield.
I just started playing it yesterday. Although the graphic is obviously dated but I think the character animation is very much well done and maybe better than some modern rpgs. The game gives me a very good old school rpg nostalgic feeling and I think I will keep playing it!
Great, I agree! Still a great classic.
I hope with the success of suiko 1+2 remaster
This should get full remake
The story just so good
Lym so cute
Sialeeds so hot
Lucretia so smart
George so OP
Richard the strongest
Thanks boss
After watching this video i wanna replay suiko V
What a coincidence, I actually finished my Suikoden V run just a week ago ;) I agree, its still absolutely amazing and fun to play
Gameplay-wise, Suikoden 5 is the best for me since improved on everything I loved about 2. Not only did it bring back the 6-man parties, but the formations idea was honestly brilliant. Duels were also a step up because the animation for each fights were made for each fight and watching them play out was a treat in and of itself. And the army battles? I'm a big fan of SRPGs and real time strategy games, so seeing and playing what they pulled off for 5 just brought a big smile on my face.
Storywise though, Suikoden 2 will always be number 1 for me, but I'd put Suikoden 5 as my number 3 after Suikoden 1 but tied with Suikoden 3.
I suddenly felt really old when you mentioned this is a retro rpg... 😁
The game look great and I should try to find a copy. Thx again for a amazing review!
Slightly above 2 for my favorite in the series. Ranked as 5, 2, 1, 3, and 4 for me.
Yes! V was the best for me ❤
I have to agree with you that this specific title is the hardest in terms of recruiting the 108 stars. It's impossible to get them all without a guide in a single play through but in terms of combat this is the easiest out of all the games. The characters you get are just too OP (Assuming you are using the correct Runes, Skill setups and Party Formation) and regular battles usually end on your second turn.
The only gripe I have about this game is the pacing. Until you reach Ceras Lake everything was just too sluggish
Suikoden V was such a great game. It’s probably my favorite Suikoden game. So bummed that the series had seemingly gone into hiatus for so long. I am still anxiously waiting for VI. 16 years later.
Suikoden 5 was the second best after 2, 2 is my favorite game of all times, and seeing the return to form 5 provided was awesome :D Only critique I have actually now that I am watching the footage is the stiffness of the animations in battle.
I LOVE this game! Definitely the best in the series. I am hoping that III, IV and V will also be remastered!
The characters in Suikoden 5 may have been the been some of the best in the series at least the coolest ( other than flik and victor of course). 2,5,3 are my favorites. I think 3 is super underrated.
3 was a steaming hot piece of shit. By and far the worst of the series in every single category.
@@paulmiller7838 I disagree I loved 3 personally, to me 4 was a train wreck. I liked how 3 had so much build up to the flame champion. And I liked how u could see things from different perspectives.
@@Getdown8319 Sure, three different perspectives from three casts of unlikable characters compiled with the worst combat system of the series, the worst army battles of the series by and far. And if you are going to be honest the whole gimmick of the three perspectives is because the story itself is weak at best. Sorry but 3 is just an abysmal mess of a game thar fails in every category.
@@paulmiller7838 well hey agree to disagree it’s all subjective.
I agree that 3 is underrated. 4 is the worst one for me
One of the greatest stories in all of RPGs, I think. Arshtat is such an interesting character.
I'm replaying this game currently- the one thing I hate about the Army Battles is that you can tell a unit to go to a location, but they faff about running in place until reaching the right angle and then slooooowly make their way forward. Plus you have to scroll all over the battlefield and command each unit one by one while the computer controls its entire army simultaneously. It's very hard to keep up.
Great video review of Suikoden V! I loved how you highlighted the classic RPG elements and the engaging story of the game. Your insights on the gameplay mechanics and character customization were spot on. Keep up the fantastic work, looking forward to more content from your channel!
the multiple endings of if you have all 108 characters which some of them are lock to events of the story
Isn’t that great?
Love suikoden 3-5 so much. Wish they would get remaster or Suikoden get a new game and not Eiyuden Chronicle: Rising which I will still play. But would love more Suikoden games to come!
Both Suikoden V and II are on the same level, both are the best in the series
Both are great games!
honestly, no ps 3 and not even 4 and 5 will EVER come closer to ps 2 jrpg greatness
I still have the guardian stones guitar music on my car playlist
In case you didn't know, the PSP game (Woven Web of the Centuries) has a fan-translation now.
I am amazed that someone cared enough to put in that effort. that game is pretty much the FF13 of suikoden. Everything are just simplified and stripped to the bones. The story was "we must unite against manbearpig" and some time travelling gimmick. Most of the budget of the game probably went to the voice acting. The DS game was so much better considering the massive difference in hardware.
One of the best in the series
haha I still have the strategy guide for this game on the shelf next to me.
Hard to have the heart to discard those!
I know you already done all suikoden content.. but can you make more somehow? I like ur point of view
I'll try!
To me it’s ranked suikoden 1, 2 then 5. I wish there was an easy accessible way to play 5 on modern consoles, still got my guide book
Suikoden V is easily my favorite of the series, but that may also be because it was my first. I've gone back and played the other games but none are as enjoyable to me as 5. In fact playing the first Suikoden game was one of the most disappointing gaming experiences I have ever had. It's not a good game. It's hardly even a passable gaming experience. So I'm shocked that people hold it in such high regard. But I am excited for the remasters of 1 and 2. I'm hoping, that with some gameplay tweaks and graphical upgrades, the first game can raise to a level of a "competent" gaming experience, even if I don't think it's possible for it to be a "great" game as fans claim it to be. And it will be nice to give Suikoden II another chance since I gave up pretty early into that game because I was so burned out after the disappointing experience of 1.
I was so glad when I bought this game, I bought it at launch. I couldn't believe how expensive and rare it got years later. There needs to be a remaster, so new fans can experience the story and gameplay.
I missed this title. Will have to try to get this on emulator so I can play it! My fave is Suikoden 2 and I wonder if this will top it.
suikoden V is basically suikoden 2 but got buff...
as the gameplay, its on the top of suikoden games
but as story is my 2nd below suiko 3 but top of suiko 2..
what i think is the saddest is the ending theme of suikoden V got the ver of welcome to illusion world in more somber and melachony feeling
3 is underrated storywise. Luc Had actually a reasonable Goal and the lore about harmonia was amazing.
Sadly we never got a Game about harmonia itself
Suikoden 5 was awesome! It took me years after its release to try it because I hated suikoden 3 and 4 so much. I am glad it was true to its roots. I hope this one gets remastered as well.
Thanks bro your reviews are the best
Thank you!
@@Xygor welcome
I love this game, I love this franchise. V is one of the best.
Isn't it great?
@Xygor Gaming it is. Hopefully they do 3, 4, tactics, and 5. You looking forward to 100 heros?
never got to play this one, but I just barked GEORG!!!!! It's 3:50am and I'm trying to quietly get ready for work lol
That's awfully early for going to work
@@ninototo1 I agree 100% lol but I'm head maintenance for my store, so I do the 5am to 1pm so I can make sure to be home by the time my son gets off the bus sometime between 2 and 230
My ranking is Suikoden II, then I, then V, then IV. I never played III, but I think, I would've liked it. I liked them all and the series has a special place in my heart. (I am really hyped for Eyuden Chronicles tbh.)
I love all Suikoden games, 5 being my second favourite. Absolutely adore it.
They need a re-master for this..
I am a huge final fantasy fan, but Suikoden 5 is better than all of them.
It is the best rpg game created in my opinion.
I love the series and 5 is actually my favorite, even more so than 2, which is the usual favorite everyone has. I wish I could go back and play it but unfortunately, my ps3 won't read it anymore and I don't have a ps2 lying around. I will NEVER understand why Sony doesn't use it's massive library to sell games digitally. Luckily, with the announcement of 1&2 remastered, I've regained hope that this series could see a return, though it might just be Konami trying to piggyback on Eiyuden Chroinicles Kickstarter success.
Suikoden 2, suikoden 5, suikoden 1/suikoden 3 and suikoden 4. That's my opinion if I'm going to rate the best to least.
Suikoden 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorites. There's only about 3 other rpgs I like as much as those 2.
That being said, 5 is a fantastic game too and definitely my favorite passed the 2nd one. In fact, it's either Suikoden 5 or Tales of the Abyss that is my favorite PS2 RPG.
And I am a big fan of 3 and 4 and could care less what anyone else feels, I enjoy them
I adored Suikoden 5, and IMO it had the best cast of characters. My biggest gripe with the game was that the difficulty becomes trivial after a point, and recruiting all characters is freaking impossible without following a walkthrough closely.
2 is still my clear favorite, but 5 is definitely my second.
Really love your videos, sir. Keep up the amazing works!
Thanks, will do!
Who loves xygor gaming? This guy!
Appreciate it!
Really nice to see a remake with a 2d-hd version of this.
I have played Suikoden 1, 2, 3, and 5. In my personal opinion, Suikoden 5 has the best story among them. Hoping that it gets port or remaster or remake on PS4 or PS5.
Suikoden 5 had so much going against it, and it still got so much right besides. In a different world it would have been better appreciated for it's nuance. 9/10 stars
Man, I wish there was a modern way to play this game on consoles. It looks awesome!
I just started playing it yesterday on emulators, not difficult to do!
I went into S5 with low expectations after 3 and 4, but those expectations were blown away. S5 is the only volume in the series to compare to cult classic S2.
Do a complete story explanation on this please!!
5 was definitely the best suikoden After 2.
gameplay wise it really felt like playing an enhanced suikoden 2.
storywise it was definitely on the better side.
My 3rd Favorite Suikoden.
I stopped playing it halfway for a while and now I don't understand what I am and what I have to do anymore.
i have played 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 and tactics but i have never played 5.
i hope someday they remaster them all.
Hope we got Nintendo switch port for this!!
Since I really spent a lot of time on trading, I spent a lot of time in Haud.
Good memories!
1:55 - But unlike Final Fantasy XII, your starting character doesn't make you wonder why in the world he's there to begin with.
1 and 2 are top one for me, both those games goes hand in hand because of continuity and the fact that you get to play two main protag. Man Tir Mcdohl is a beast in Suikoden 2. Suikoden 5 takes top 2 then Suikoden 3 and lastly Suikoden 4.
It's my favourite after 2.
Really, after the disappointment of 4, playing this one was a real joy
After 1 and especially 2, Suikoden V is easily the best Suikoden game in my eyes. To me, it just lacked a story of treason or rivalry as heartbreaking as 2's. But I absolutely adore how they put the events of the game into scene.
There was plenty of betrayal in 5.
@@nworder4life There was. I'm just saying, it wasn't narratively as well executed as in 2.
@@Knopey I think it just comes down to caring about Jowy more than Sialeeds.
@@nworder4life which comes down to personal taste, which... Well, see my first comment.
Yes, I like Jowy better than Sialeeds, but that's not it. More importantly, I enjoy the character dynamic between Riou and Jowy better than that of Frey and Sialeeds. I think the treason story and the parallels between the rivals are far better paced and executed in 2 than in V.
But yeah, it's my take on it. You are free to prefer Sialeeds over Jowy. You may enjoy SV's conspiracies more than S2's. Just saying I like 2's more is all.
@@Knopey I think both games follow the same story beats but Jowy's betrayal hits harder for me as well. I personally put 2 above 5 but it's not by much.
All I have to say is...living up to Suikoden I-II is a very tall order. I myself tried to get into Suikoden V but I just couldn't....wait a minute, I have never played this game. It must have been Suikoden IV. It makes sense as I have never missed a PlayStation or Xbox launch since their entry into the console industry.
Personally I did not play this game because this came out during wow vanilla. I really think quite a few jrpg players were playing wow during that time and most of the latter ps2 rpgs got ignored because of that.
Probably true!
Top tier to me alongside 2
Isn't it awesome?
Suikoden V had the best field battle system ever, for me the only point in which it was superior even to suikoden II, however it is my favorite chapter after II
The best Suikoden for me. I love Suikoden 2 too, but V has more complete customization and battle mechanics. The storyline is superb, the music and graphic also great too. The downside of this game is only too easy. Too many OP characters that make boss battle feels like ordinary monster. The hardest boss probably only the one inside Eresh's dungeon and the final boss.
Thanks for your feedback, glad you have such good memories of it!
Battle formations and an auto command... It reminds me of something, I just can't put my finger on it....
It's up there with 2 as far as i'm concerned.
We need more Isabels!
Haha!
i would welcome a port//remaster of this one (the silly low cost one) on ps4/5, that's how much i liked the game :/
I remember enjoying 5 more than 3, but I don't remember anything about 5, but 3 has a lot of memorable moments for me.
Memorable doesn’t always mean good. A lot of things stick out about part III to me too, but all of those memories are bad. III, to me, felt like a betrayal of everything the series. Many people do like it, because for some it was their first Suikoden game. And maybe some original fans honestly did like III, but for me, it was just bad.
@@IsaacG8 been with the series from the beginning. I think 3 was memorable because the main villain was someone I loved in the first two and was super invested narrative wise
wait but, while yes they have to create an entire new universe, Eiyuuden Chronicles is basically going to be our Suikoden 6 since it has the original creators behind it.
5 is my fave, then 1.
Imo 5 is the faithful continuation after 2, I never fond of 3 or 4 since 3 exploration is experimental and 4 world is odd. Isometric style suit suikoden the most. Next installment just need to enhance it with hd2d and harder combat and the revelation of untold true runes!!
This game is PAIN. The menu feels like a Debug menu, and navigating through it takes so much time. The encounter rate is really high. The camera is fixed, making it very easy to navigate most areas, as you're constantly overlooking exits and entrances due to the perspective you're forced into. There's SO much backtracking. Story is good, though. Script is very well written, well translated, but it takes almost 15 hours to get where it needs to go. You are NOT beating this game without a guide. The dev's focus was clearly story and combat, and it does those very well.
i think this series must remastered like Suiko 2
if in ranking, Sukoden 2, 1, 3 and 5 at same place, and 4 the worst experience maybe. 3 maybe little bias since its kinda hinted about the gaiden VN story and its after highland story line in Suikoden 2. but 5 really did re ignite my love for this series. its just maybe i dont like the falena outfit that we use till end game. i really like the red cloth one.
My favourite is 2 but 5 comes close to it, the only I can say what's bad about is that the gameplay is slow then most Suikoden series and you can't change outfit for MC (I Iike his travel outfit) but everything else is good.
I would argue that the War Battles in Suikoden V are more Similar to Suikoden II than they are to Suikoden I. Just nitpicking, but wanted to point it out, great points on the video
its actually a mixture of both with the rock paper scissors type of battle system from suikoden 1 and the tactical placement of units from suikoden 2.
@@makgiddy866 except Suikoden 2 still had the rock paper scissors elements to its war battles, it just was explicitly stated
Agreed this was probably Suikoden 5 was the best PS2 game, and probably 2nd best to Suikoden 2.
I recently replayed it (along with 4 for the first time). It was a little worse than my first play through with the game about 10 years ago. The end of the game felt like there may had been either some translation issues or maybe a hastily finished ending, as I game was trying very hard to wrap things up, but felt like it needed just a bit more time to bake (specifically Gizel's motivations / actions). I also dont think they had quite fully optimized the game engine, as some areas looked washed out and the game has some slow load times from what I recall.
Still definitely worth a play through, its probably the game most similar to 2 and one of my favorite PS2 RPGs.
I wish Breath or Fire can redeem itself too. 😭
I bought Genso Suikogaiden the visual novel game just because I wanted to show support, I played it a little but couldn't read what was going on so 😂
Man its hard for me to rank it but I think I'd say its my second favorite. 2 is just to special to me and this one had a couple things I didn't like (silent protag doesn't feel like he works in this one, he emotes too much almost like a mime) but overall def one of the best.
There is another Suikoden on home console. Suikoden Tactics.
For me it was the second best or third with the first sukoden - Suikoden 2 being the best. I did not played the third but hated the fourth (combat formations : none = no strategy). I liked all the innovations they brought to it (all mentioned in your video) but I don't really like the 3d graphics and i this sense I prefer the first game.
Thiis is my second favorite game in the series, behind II,, II had more of my favorite characters from the series and I felt the opening portions of the game aka the period before you get your base dragged on way too long and were too cutscene heavy.
2 is my favorite followed by 5. 1 and 3 are a tie for third tactics being fourth and number 4 being the worst for me