The interesting thing about all of the christians in the chat is they'll talk about everything else except the point which was made in the video. Obviously scared to discuss the topic at hand... smh
@wendigo1881 lol It says in the Gospel of John that he is the one writing the account and if you knew a little bit about History all of the Gospels were written before the destruction of the temple in 70 Ad. First lie he says is that Jesus was a Muslim in the colloquial sense not in the sense of we have today. How can Jesus be a Muslim when he calls God his Father isn't that against Islam? We who follow the one True God don't follow Allah bc he is not the same God of the Bible. Also with that logic Christians are Muslims bc we submit to the True God YHWH.
@DeenLove I'm confused I'm not claiming Jesus as if he's mine He came for all to be saved even you my friend. Second that type of logic leads to agnosticism bc now you don't know what anybody in history has said bc you have to have faith in the source. I'm sorry but if you study the bible you will come to the conclusion that the authors are who they claim to be. John Mark was a companion of Peter and is written to have traveled with him during his ministry. All manuscripts are titled the Gospel of Mark, and none of them say otherwise. Same with Luke and Paul's writing which by the way are within 17yrs of Jesus death. Sorry but the Quran even tho at one point Islam was the most dominate culture did not write anything down until 100s of years after the death of Mohammed, ex the Haddiths. I'm sure you know this, but for some reason you don't trust the Bible. I mean now that people are becoming wary of the lies that are told or the inconsistency in comparison Islam has taken some heavy hits lately. I wish for all to follow Christ and seek the Kingdom of Heaven.
@swiftslayer jesus didnt come for you, he came for the jews. Paul lied to you. Lol you know nothing of hadiths. Jesus worshipped one God, you worship 3 Gods. He said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD. you say there are 3. According to your bible, you are lying or jesus is lying 🤷🏾♂️
My God these 2 guys don’t know the first thing or anything about Christianity 😂😂😂I’m not exaggerating when I say these 2 are ignorant. Jesus definitely spoke Greek. He spoke Greek Aramaic and Hebrew
@@DeenLove okay I’ll bring the evidence as soon as you bring me evidence outside the Quran that the bible has been changed. The only way to know that is if you have the original to compare with otherwise you have to retract that dumb statement that the bible has been changed. You made a claim and didn’t give evidence. All you said was king James was changed then you made an ignorant statement about versions of the bible. All bibles literally have the same message. The small differences in text are because some manuscripts are in other languages. You say it as if the differences in the translations makes a difference but it doesn’t. All bibles make the Christian doctrine very clear. Open which ever bible you want and you’ll see the same message. You’re just liars man. I accept when you criticise Christianity but you can’t be just ignorant and dishonest about it.
@@DeenLove Jesus being able to speak Greek is common sense. He lived in Roman rules Judea. Middle East was mostly under the Roman Empire. The main language was Greek. If he was a carpenter he would have had to speak the language to trade. Everyone spoke Greek. Use your brain
You are sir. The injeel is NOT the approx. 900 Bibles that exist. Jesus worshiped the father. He didn't create himself. Fear the Father and the Father alone ! Fear Allah and Allah alone!
"He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel." How does say it say what you are saying.
The other books were revealed to the Messengers that came before Muhammad and we believe in them. However, none has been preserved except the Quran. So the “Bible” you read is not the book revealed to Isa (Jesus). Rather it was written centuries after by unknown author. Read that again
Lol paul had a vision but how does he know that it was jesus since he never saw him before? Based on his opposition to Jesus's teachings, its more likely that he saw the devil
@DeenLove it's more likely Mohammed was visited by a demon considering he was terrified and suicidal. Also the fact that he changed his persecution and supported Christ and the church is how we know. He also spent time with Luke, Peter and Mark who witnessed his changed heart. Please read Acts and not just spit out things you have heard from somebody else.
@swiftslayer hmm... he was visited by a demon who told him to "recite in the name of the Lord who created him" and this "demon" also teaches him to seek refuge from the devil??? Make sense. Please. Paul did meet the other disciples who forced him to make a nazerite vow because he was teaching contrary to the law which jesus preached and followed in Acts 21: Jerusalem 17 When we arrived at Jerusalem, the brothers and sisters received us warmly. 18 The next day Paul and the rest of us went to see James, and all the elders were present. 19 Paul greeted them and reported in detail what God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. 20 When they heard this, they praised God. Then they said to Paul: “You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law. 21 They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs. 22 What shall we do? They will certainly hear that you have come, 23 so do what we tell you. There are four men with us who have made a vow. 24 Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law. 25 As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.” 26 The next day Paul took the men and purified himself along with them. Then he went to the temple to give notice of the date when the days of purification would end and the offering would be made for each of them." Wow! Even James the brother of Jesus made Paul go through a ritual of REPENTANCE. So it seems like Paul preaching to the gentiles to abandon the law was anti-christ-like and inspiration from the Devil.
@DeenLove man do you not remember how Paul acted as a Jew when preaching to the Jews and as a Greek preaching to the Romans? How do you read that passage and say wow Paul got his gospel from a Demon yet the first few verses state how the gentiles where coming to Christ? If he was preaching something contrary to what the disciples received then they would have rebuked him. Just as Paul rebuked Peter. Yet Mohammed comes preaching teachings that are contrary to what Jesus preached. He said Jesus wasn't crucified, calling the early followers of Christ liars. He said God does not have a son or that you can't call him Father. He doesn't uphold the laws of Moses, and doesn't adhere to the sabbath. He preached that men should have slaves and that they should committ a certain amount of adultery. He also had multiple wives when Jesus said in the beginning God made man and female to become one not for man to have multiple wives and to capture women and have sex with them even if they were married. Let's not forget how nothing about Mohammed is written down for 100s of years after his death, or the fact that Uthman had to burn Qurans in order to standardize the Quran bc it was Altered. How about how the Quran declares Mohammed as the greatest example when Jesus lead a sinless life. Wait wait can we remember how Mohammed puts Arabic words in Jesus's mouth when we know he didn't speak Arabic. I can go on about this false prophet, but we can see that the lies Islam has taught its followers are starting to come to light.
@swiftslayer wow, what a dumb response. Deen Love actually gave you bible verses and demonstrated how Paul was deceiving people that he needed to repent according to the DISCIPLES. And your only response was that he was behaving one way with the jews and another with gentiles... you know what that's called??? HYPOCRISY! Then you ramble on with LIESS about Islam. This is why Christians have very low credibility, just lying. Deen Love didnt actually lie, whether you agree with the premises or not but you do. Because you need to protect your trithiest religion. Look at you, so scared you cant even deal with your own bible. You're such an idiot for criticizing prophet muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم for marrying more than 1 wife when prophets like Solomon, Jacob & Abraham had more than one wife ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE DUMMY. Such an idiot... youre not worth anymore energy.
Heh. Funny how more and more people becoming Muslim than ever before. Cope and seethe, or actually read the Quran. There are 100s of English bibles Only one Quran. That is enough.
@@MobinYazdani-xh7er which books says that. You cannot simply make assumptions, provide evidence from the holy book. Moreover, your Allah is a mere human who teaches you to smile outwardly but have hatred inside one's heart.
@@MobinYazdani-xh7er which books says that. You cannot simply make assumptions, provide evidence from the holy book. Moreover, your Allah is a mere human who teaches you to smile outwardly but have hatred inside one's heart.
Sorry to tell you but non of the prophets were Muslim. Being a Muslim doesn’t just mean one who submits his will to Allah. Are you you saying if I accept Allah and reject Mohamed I’m a Muslim. The answer is No you’ll say I have to believe in Muhamad as his messenger. So my question again is am I a Muslim if don’t accept Mohamed as Allahs messenger
@@DeenLove can I say I’m a Muslim but I don’t accept Muhamed as a messenger of God. I don’t accept him as a prophet. He’s just a man, a sinner and an ungodly man. Can I be a Muslim then?
That's how/why I left Islam. I don't believe Muhammad. so I concluded I can't be a Muslim, if I reject or question Muhammad and his teachings. Islam is his creation. I believe God.
Acts 10:10-17 NIV 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.w 11 He saw heaven openedx and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14 “Surely not, Lord!”y Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”z 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”a
Sorry sir, the bishop clearly LIED about the Old testament verses in Leviticus. Do you accept that? This isnt about the new testament, they are responding to the Bishop's exegesis and quotation of Leviticus.
@@AbuFadl Old Testament was written before Christ and new Testament was written by Apostles of Jesus Christ through visions and teachings done by our Lord Jesus Christ. In other words the New Testament is a sanctified version which was written after the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
@@abdifatahali3919 Peter is one of the highest priest ever existed and this interpretation is written with regard to the vision seen by him. There are many more which advocates to eat pork but I'll refer only when you wish to join our peaceful and true religion
@@abdifatahali3919 Respected! they are his apostles and his apostles are proofs that they heard and wrote about our Loving Jesus teachings and testaments. Whereas your Quran is a lone interpretation or writings by a single person whose sources are full of self interest, hatred towards other religions, promotes war etc. Consider this in a real scenario , which will you trust ? a single interpretation or an interpretation by many? For sure we will all trust the second one cuz single interpretation can be full of bias and self claim
Literally the whole verse you quoted refutes you lol dont just reference one word in the verse to make it mean what you want... quote the whole verse. "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion1 or say about Allāh except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allāh and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allāh and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allāh is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allāh as Disposer of affairs."
Timegap: you guys dont get it. The timegame is about how close is the source to a reliable and verifiable document. So john is dated latest 100 ad by most critical scholars(non christian), there is proof it was written before 70 a.d. jesus is crusified estimated at 34 a. d. John would be between 50 to 80 years old when writing it down. The first documents of Muhammad came 200 year after his suposed life. So time between these documents 100 to 800ad is 700 years. Gospelwriters: anonymity? The church has a 'Sanad' for the writtings. Documented by Eusebius, But already in place with the earliest churchfathers. There is no dispute about the writers, it wasnt like modern times that you had a bookcover stating the autor, this is similar for most books/writtings in antiquity. Like the Quran doenst have on its book cover: Zayd ibn Thabit. The rest: maybe later response
It is you who doesnt get it. You criticize us for 200 years gap of writings of hadith, but the isnaad go back to the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. You criticize us for 200 years, yet you try to verify validity of gospels by Eusebius who died year 339, 4th century. And what youre saying isnt accurate with regards to anonymity. The majority of bible SCHOLARS say the writers of the gospels are in fact anonymous. They cannot be proven or ascribed to disciples. “All four of the canonical gospels were originally anonymous. It was only in the second century CE, when the four gospels were published a a collection that the superscriptions were added to the gospels, attributing authorship to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John respectively. This is also the time that traditions begin to appear about the authors, claiming that they were either original apostles of Jesus or close acquaintances of other well-known apostles. in spite of these attributions, most scholars do not think any of these men were the original gospel writers. None of the gospels is written in a style that suggests the authors was present at the events being narrated. Nor is it likely that the disciples of Jesus were able to write in Greek, the language in which the gospels were written. So we are left with the reality that the gospels were written by anonymous Christians decades after the events that they relate.” (1) Dr. David M. Carr (Union Theological Seminary) & Dr Colleen M. Conway (Seton Hall University) “The four Gospels were published anonymously… they seem to have been written with no authors names attached. We don’t know how or when these names were attached to these Gospels’ that is lost to history.” (2) Dr. Dale Martin (Yale University) “The four Gospels were written anonymously between A.D. 70 and 100, and assembled into a collection about A.D. 125. The authors did not provide them with titles, others added them later.” (3) Dr. David E. Aune (University of Notre Dame) “Formally speaking, all four canonical Gospels are anonymous since their authors names are not mentioned anywhere within the context of the verses themselves… The superscript of each of the four Gospels is not an original part of the document.. it was likely later appended to the scroll for identification.” (4) Dr. Ben Witherington (Asbury Theological Seminary) As for the Quran, why would zayd bin thabit name be on the front page??? Thats dumb since no one ever considered him or the other several scribes as the AUTHORS, Allah is the author. Unlike the bible, which is authored by men who were allegedly inspired by God but the holy spirit seems confused since fabricated verses made their way into your scriptures. Not to mention, all scholars agree the original autograph copies of the bible are not in our possession.
@@DeenLove, there is much to reply to in your comment. It seems you didn't catch the most I said. However I keep my response brief. You think it is unreliable that the church transmitted the author names via tradition (which is similar to transmission via Isnaad chains). While you refer to Isnaad for the reliability of the content Quran's and Hadith's. There is only a big difference. The authorship or anonymity of a document doesn't say anything about the reliability or truth of the content. The content of the gospels is secured in manuscripts. I agree with you that mouth-to-mouth transmission is prone the corruption and less reliable than manuscript evidence. Therefore there has been (and still is) much dispute about the Quran's and Hadiths, especially in the early days of Islam. Uthman tried to solve that issue, but failed horribly. Note that you just claim that Allah wrote the Quran. A claim is not a proof. Salaam.
@DeBolleLegende absolutely incorrect. The transmission of attribution of names for your gospel have nothing similar because most bible scholars agree that your attributions are ANONYMOUS, i.e. we cannot be sure who those individuals are- Mathew, mark, luke and john. In hadith scienes we couldnt even rely on those gospels for that very reason. In hadith corpus, we know our narrators and have entire books of biographies of the thousands of men in those chains of transmissions. There's nothing secure about your gospels, even some of the gospel endings contradict with one another. Not to mention the cases found of whole fabrications in the king james bible not found in the earliest manuscripts like the story of the adulteress. Your claim that there are disputes about reliability of hadiths are hilarious. What major scholar of the muslim world questions the veracity of hadiths? Idk if you're having a conversation with yourself towards the end of what you wrote. Our hadith tradition is unanimously accepted by our scholars, our quranic transmission is accepted by all muslims today. Cant say the same about christains because their are MULTIPLE bibles and one tradition accuses the other of holding uninspired word of God their scriptures: the ethiopian bible, the catholic douay version, even amongst the protestants- there are different translations which omit certain parts due to the belief that its not inspired. So can you find a sect of islam which omits a chapter or verse of the quran saying it is a fabrication?
He doesn't need a son. Why would a infinite being need to carry on through offspring ? Do you even proofread this stuff? Just yapping away into the void. حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل
You me English doesn’t make sense. But if you’re saying Allah has a son, you’ve now equated him to his creation and that does not befit his majesty. Read that again
@@bishaarsabtow then why did you Allah had sex with flawed human to impregnate . Why not use spirit just like our God did. Clearly he's a human driven by lust and power
@@bishaarsabtow No that's not what the Quran said, the Quran said Allah Cannot have a son, because he is a limited god. Whereas the God of the Bible is Omni-present Tri-une and unlimited in power. He can have a son and that is why Allah breathe into Mary a soul from him and his word. Isa son of Mary has been said to be called Kalimat Allah aka "The word of God"
Christian arabs call god Allah & many rabbis are okay with the usage, understanding it as the Creator. Christians who dispute this are ignorant or liars.
Muslims don’t follow Jesus of Nazareth but instead follow a man called Mohammad. But yet in their book they say Jesus is sinless and Holy but they still worship Mohammad
@@ratkotrailovic9600 We as Muslims, worship the same God Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad ﷺ worship and follow the same message to believe in One God. I don’t know where yall get your info from but you’ve been misinformed boss man
@@abdifatahali3919I am not confused my brother but I am confused with your book as most Muslims are but still follow Muhammad and worship him only. I read in your book that Jesus (Issa in your book ? ) is sinless and Holy and is on the throne in Heaven but your prophet is not and you still worship him ? Who is Allah btw ? And are you Arabic ?
@@ratkotrailovic9600 Where is your evidence that Muslims need to worship Muhammad. Allah, who is God, said in Chapter 18 verse 110 of the Quran, Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I am only a man like you, ˹but˺ it has been revealed to me that your God is only One God. So whoever hopes for the meeting with their Lord, let them do good deeds and associate none in the worship of their Lord.” Bring your evidence we Muslims are told by Allah to worship Muhammad ﷺ
Jesus must’ve spoke English and Spanish too no? lol Ask realistic questions not hypotheticals. Early Christian Scholars and Many scholars of today agree he spoke Aramaic. Read that again
@@AliDaGrateJesus is God and your book confirms it. He is Sinless and Holy. Muhammad is a sinner and is in Hell yet you still worship him ! May the Triune God show you the Truth my brother so you can be saved from that Pagan cult
Your first point is not true.. Jesus prayed to his Father.. Muslims don't regard ALLAH as a Father... And MUHAMMADs Parents are Burning in HELL . Jesus's mother is a Acknowledged and Praised. What about Mahummads Mother? So please don't confuse people...
@@AleiKore If Jesus is God, why would he pray to himself? Father was used in the time of Jesus as a term of Endearment. The Father in the Bible calls many his sons like Jacob, Solomon, David, etc. that does not make them his physical sons. Also, the Quran is not an autobiography of Muhammad ﷺ . He did not write the Quran. So it’s not an autobiography about his life. Read that again
My biblical knowledge is not 100% therefore I refer yous to SAM SHAMOUN and GODLOGIC..They are debators .I can only say GOD the FATHER ,GOD the SON and GOD the HOLY SPIRIT are ONE in NATURE...
@@AleiKore don’t start a debate in the comment section then divert us to someone else because you lack the capabilities to defend refutation sent your way. Stay in your lane to begin with
You are either for Christ or anti-Christ !!! There is no other choice !!!! I pray for all atheists , Buddhist, and Muslims to repent their pagan beliefs and not be deceived by the Devil and come to your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth !!!
Is it pagan to worship the God of Jesus or to worship Jesus as God even after he clearly said he had a God? Is it pagan to believe in one God who sent jesus as a messiah or is it pagan to believe in the 3 Gods (god the father, god the son, and god the holy spirit and that all three are not identical to each other)????
Muslims are more Christian than Christians. Jesus worshiped the creator, he dressed modestly, fasted, had a beard, and his mother covered. So either you follow unknown authors or you follow Jesus as Muslims do, there is no other choice. Read that again
Jesus's father according to the bible is also His GOD!!! Do you accept that he has a God? "Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ” (John 20: 17)
IN THE QURAN WHEN JESUS ADDRESSES THE PEOPLE He says Oh PEOPLE OF ISREAL When musa did He says Oh MY PEOPLE Because HE IS ACTUALLY RELATED BY lineage 61:5 61:6 playing games aren't we?
Muslims should watch Christian Prince videos on RUclips or Sam Shamouns They will learn their book from them and realize the Truth and that is Jesus of Nazareth ❤ May all people find Peace and Love in Jesus Christ name
@@abdifatahali3919 Never has he been refuted you are dishonest you should call him and see for yourself but most are scared to find out the truth !!! That is Jesus Christ of Nazareth is your God
You know more about our Bible than your Koran !!! Yet you still claim you are a Muslim but don’t know anything about your religion or care to know. Maybe you are Christian but just want to be a Muslim bc it is convenient to you and where you live. God is working on your heart. Ps you still haven’t answered my question ? Where are you from and do you speak Arabic? Be honest ?
Prophecies about Yeshua was not just Musa only but from Musa to Makachai. None of us follow John or Paul but we are follow and ine Yeshua in the straight path. Quran 43:61-64.
That was a bad comparison bc Jesus doesn't quote Moses saying anything outside of the Torah. That's not a good comparison at all and I don't think you understand his point. Mohammed attributes things being said by Jesus found nowhere else but in the Quran.
Which is the point because the bible isnt the injeel, the injeel is what is referenced. The injeel is scripture given to jesus and it is what he was taught. The bible is a compilation of books mostly written by anonymous authors which came long after jesus ascended. The quran came to correct the fabricated teachings and confirm the correct teachings ascribed to the messiah. Btw, the gospel writers also attribute to the old testament verses that cannot be found. So be careful where you throw stones...
@DeenLove what is the Injeel? You don't know bc it's nowhere to be found. There is no evidence of it outside of the claims made in the Quran. I'm sorry but your beliefs are similar to Mormon beliefs where some book that has never been found that states Ahkmed would be mentioned by name that has never been verified. So you must say the Bible has been corrupted bc it disproves Mohammed and the Quran. It's OK but you are supporting a false prophet
@DeenLove Also the Gospel writer do not attribute old testament verses that can't be found that is just a false claim. The Bible is a hyperlink text and the references are found throughout scripture unlike the Quran which came to alter the truth by claiming everything before it was false without any evidence to show that it is false. Like I always knew something was wrong with the Quran bc they don't worship the Sabbath which is one of the 10 commandments. If it was to correct the corruption it would keep the 10 commandment at the very least. Sadly the Quran doesn't even state what was the law given to Moses bc Mohammed didn't know it.
@DeenLove last point the bible isn't mostly written by autonomous authors. Most of the old testament we know who wrote each book, and any honest person who knows the history of the New testament would know that most of those books we know who wrote them. Let's just stick with Luke and John since both of those authors are 100% known as the authors bc the beloved disciple states he wrote and witnessed these things and Luke obviously wrote Luke. Each gospel was written before the destruction of the temple in 70ad at the latest bc they document this prophecy as not being fulfilled. If you are seeking the truth then seek the truth but the lack of knowledge of biblical understanding is apparent.
You’re wrong about one detail. He did speak Greek because it was under Roman control, and the Romans spoke Greek all the historical text. Say that Greek was the native language for the Jews at the time.
Acts 10:10-17 NIV 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.w 11 He saw heaven openedx and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14 “Surely not, Lord!”y Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”z 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”a
You’re wrong about one detail. He did speak Greek because it was under Roman control, and the Romans spoke Greek all the historical text. Say that Greek was the native language for the Jews at the time. If John spoke Greek, then Jesus also spoke Greek.
Lol you are pre-supposing you KNOW who this "john" is in the first place. Yeah the new testament is in greek, but there is no way of proving the disciples were speaking greek in Judea, an all-jewish culture community, unlike the gentiles outside of the area. Bart Erhman: In Nazareth Jesus would have had zero reason to learn Greek, and probably no way to learn Greek. Rural Galilee was completely Jewish (culturally) and thoroughly Aramaic (linguistically). Even when Jesus was an adult, there is no reference to him visiting a major city (until he goes to Jerusalem at the end of his life), or speaking Greek, or knowing Greek. He was a rural Jew in the Jewish hinterlands of Galilee. He almost certainly could not speak Greek. Jesus was raised in a region called Galilee in Palestine in the first half of the 1st century. According to Stanley Porter, the principal spoken language of Palestine at that time was a language called Aramaic. Hebrew and Aramaic were closely related but definitely distinct. Aramaic was originally the language of a people called the Arameans who ruled parts of Mesopotamia. According to scholar Holger Gzella, the language became more widespread when it was adopted by the Assyrian and then the Neo-Assyrian empires. By the time Jesus was born, Aramaic had been the language of Palestine for centuries. Because of this, the vast majority of scholars agree that Jesus spoke almost exclusively in Aramaic, specifically in the Galilean dialect of Aramaic which would have been his native language.
How’s that make him a Muslim then in your words!!! You are delusional or jealous bc of your cult. The Koran has too many contradictions to believe it is from God !!! You are worshiping the devil my brother who probably deceived Mohammed and now the rest of the globe. Do you even speak Arabic??? Or read even half of your book !! Your religion is a cult and you know it but because of your hatred to the Chosen people you are spreading lies and that’s even worse what you are doing. You can’t even explain your book but yet you know ours. I will make it easier for you by asking you one question to answer please- Name one miracle or prophesy that your prophet did ? Be honest and don’t lie we know the answer but most Muslims don’t
Muslims don’t follow Jesus of Nazareth but instead follow a man called Mohammad. But yet in their book they say Jesus is sinless and Holy but they still worship Mohammad
First of all we follow commandments of Abraham the great father of Moses and Jesus from line of Issac and muhammad from line of ishmael, second Abraham preached monotheism which islam saying that but why Abraham didn't talked about trinity, Christianity is polytheism and copy from Egypt paganism which it's say houros was son of god and born 25th December, jesus was prophet like Moses and muhammad
The interesting thing about all of the christians in the chat is they'll talk about everything else except the point which was made in the video. Obviously scared to discuss the topic at hand... smh
Why are they lying so much in the first 10 mins. Do yall even know anything about the bible? Man the lack of biblical knowledge is abhorrent
Sto crying. Show the lies or stay quiet
@wendigo1881 lol It says in the Gospel of John that he is the one writing the account and if you knew a little bit about History all of the Gospels were written before the destruction of the temple in 70 Ad. First lie he says is that Jesus was a Muslim in the colloquial sense not in the sense of we have today. How can Jesus be a Muslim when he calls God his Father isn't that against Islam? We who follow the one True God don't follow Allah bc he is not the same God of the Bible. Also with that logic Christians are Muslims bc we submit to the True God YHWH.
@@The_mezcalman you claim jesus, you dont own him. And you can never be sure what jesus said in the bible because we dont know who wrote it. lol
@DeenLove I'm confused I'm not claiming Jesus as if he's mine He came for all to be saved even you my friend. Second that type of logic leads to agnosticism bc now you don't know what anybody in history has said bc you have to have faith in the source. I'm sorry but if you study the bible you will come to the conclusion that the authors are who they claim to be. John Mark was a companion of Peter and is written to have traveled with him during his ministry. All manuscripts are titled the Gospel of Mark, and none of them say otherwise. Same with Luke and Paul's writing which by the way are within 17yrs of Jesus death. Sorry but the Quran even tho at one point Islam was the most dominate culture did not write anything down until 100s of years after the death of Mohammed, ex the Haddiths. I'm sure you know this, but for some reason you don't trust the Bible. I mean now that people are becoming wary of the lies that are told or the inconsistency in comparison Islam has taken some heavy hits lately. I wish for all to follow Christ and seek the Kingdom of Heaven.
@swiftslayer jesus didnt come for you, he came for the jews. Paul lied to you. Lol you know nothing of hadiths. Jesus worshipped one God, you worship 3 Gods. He said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD. you say there are 3. According to your bible, you are lying or jesus is lying 🤷🏾♂️
My God these 2 guys don’t know the first thing or anything about Christianity 😂😂😂I’m not exaggerating when I say these 2 are ignorant. Jesus definitely spoke Greek. He spoke Greek Aramaic and Hebrew
Prove it that he spoke greek, if we are so ignorant... where's your proof? Dont just speculate. Prove it.
Evidence? Source? Reference?
@@DeenLove okay I’ll bring the evidence as soon as you bring me evidence outside the Quran that the bible has been changed. The only way to know that is if you have the original to compare with otherwise you have to retract that dumb statement that the bible has been changed. You made a claim and didn’t give evidence. All you said was king James was changed then you made an ignorant statement about versions of the bible. All bibles literally have the same message. The small differences in text are because some manuscripts are in other languages. You say it as if the differences in the translations makes a difference but it doesn’t. All bibles make the Christian doctrine very clear. Open which ever bible you want and you’ll see the same message. You’re just liars man. I accept when you criticise Christianity but you can’t be just ignorant and dishonest about it.
@@DeenLove Jesus being able to speak Greek is common sense. He lived in Roman rules Judea. Middle East was mostly under the Roman Empire. The main language was Greek. If he was a carpenter he would have had to speak the language to trade. Everyone spoke Greek. Use your brain
@@davisonmedialol the good ole "common sense" argument. Your christian scholars dont agree with you.
Why Quran 3:3 confirm torah and injil at the time of Mohmad. So Quran is lying or you are lying?
You are sir.
The injeel is NOT the approx. 900 Bibles that exist.
Jesus worshiped the father.
He didn't create himself.
Fear the Father and the Father alone !
Fear Allah and Allah alone!
"He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel."
How does say it say what you are saying.
The other books were revealed to the Messengers that came before Muhammad and we believe in them. However, none has been preserved except the Quran. So the “Bible” you read is not the book revealed to Isa (Jesus). Rather it was written centuries after by unknown author. Read that again
Paul did meet Jesus and he saw him. Did this guy not read Acts?
Lol paul had a vision but how does he know that it was jesus since he never saw him before? Based on his opposition to Jesus's teachings, its more likely that he saw the devil
@DeenLove it's more likely Mohammed was visited by a demon considering he was terrified and suicidal. Also the fact that he changed his persecution and supported Christ and the church is how we know. He also spent time with Luke, Peter and Mark who witnessed his changed heart. Please read Acts and not just spit out things you have heard from somebody else.
@swiftslayer hmm... he was visited by a demon who told him to "recite in the name of the Lord who created him" and this "demon" also teaches him to seek refuge from the devil??? Make sense. Please.
Paul did meet the other disciples who forced him to make a nazerite vow because he was teaching contrary to the law which jesus preached and followed in Acts 21:
Jerusalem
17 When we arrived at Jerusalem, the brothers and sisters received us warmly. 18 The next day Paul and the rest of us went to see James, and all the elders were present. 19 Paul greeted them and reported in detail what God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry.
20 When they heard this, they praised God. Then they said to Paul: “You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law. 21 They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs. 22 What shall we do? They will certainly hear that you have come, 23 so do what we tell you. There are four men with us who have made a vow. 24 Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law. 25 As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.”
26 The next day Paul took the men and purified himself along with them. Then he went to the temple to give notice of the date when the days of purification would end and the offering would be made for each of them."
Wow! Even James the brother of Jesus made Paul go through a ritual of REPENTANCE. So it seems like Paul preaching to the gentiles to abandon the law was anti-christ-like and inspiration from the Devil.
@DeenLove man do you not remember how Paul acted as a Jew when preaching to the Jews and as a Greek preaching to the Romans? How do you read that passage and say wow Paul got his gospel from a Demon yet the first few verses state how the gentiles where coming to Christ? If he was preaching something contrary to what the disciples received then they would have rebuked him. Just as Paul rebuked Peter. Yet Mohammed comes preaching teachings that are contrary to what Jesus preached.
He said Jesus wasn't crucified, calling the early followers of Christ liars. He said God does not have a son or that you can't call him Father. He doesn't uphold the laws of Moses, and doesn't adhere to the sabbath. He preached that men should have slaves and that they should committ a certain amount of adultery. He also had multiple wives when Jesus said in the beginning God made man and female to become one not for man to have multiple wives and to capture women and have sex with them even if they were married. Let's not forget how nothing about Mohammed is written down for 100s of years after his death, or the fact that Uthman had to burn Qurans in order to standardize the Quran bc it was Altered. How about how the Quran declares Mohammed as the greatest example when Jesus lead a sinless life. Wait wait can we remember how Mohammed puts Arabic words in Jesus's mouth when we know he didn't speak Arabic. I can go on about this false prophet, but we can see that the lies Islam has taught its followers are starting to come to light.
@swiftslayer wow, what a dumb response. Deen Love actually gave you bible verses and demonstrated how Paul was deceiving people that he needed to repent according to the DISCIPLES. And your only response was that he was behaving one way with the jews and another with gentiles... you know what that's called??? HYPOCRISY!
Then you ramble on with LIESS about Islam. This is why Christians have very low credibility, just lying. Deen Love didnt actually lie, whether you agree with the premises or not but you do. Because you need to protect your trithiest religion. Look at you, so scared you cant even deal with your own bible. You're such an idiot for criticizing prophet muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم for marrying more than 1 wife when prophets like Solomon, Jacob & Abraham had more than one wife ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE DUMMY. Such an idiot... youre not worth anymore energy.
Islam dies without lies
Heh.
Funny how more and more people becoming Muslim than ever before.
Cope and seethe, or actually read the Quran.
There are 100s of English bibles
Only one Quran.
That is enough.
@@Infos12 islam is pure monotheism(tawheed) but Christianity is polytheism(god in shape of white man)
@@MobinYazdani-xh7er which books says that. You cannot simply make assumptions, provide evidence from the holy book. Moreover, your Allah is a mere human who teaches you to smile outwardly but have hatred inside one's heart.
@@MobinYazdani-xh7er which books says that. You cannot simply make assumptions, provide evidence from the holy book. Moreover, your Allah is a mere human who teaches you to smile outwardly but have hatred inside one's heart.
@@Infos12 luke 19:27
Sorry to tell you but non of the prophets were Muslim. Being a Muslim doesn’t just mean one who submits his will to Allah. Are you you saying if I accept Allah and reject Mohamed I’m a Muslim. The answer is No you’ll say I have to believe in Muhamad as his messenger. So my question again is am I a Muslim if don’t accept Mohamed as Allahs messenger
No, that's not what it means. How can you accept Allah without accepting his commandments genius??? 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
@@DeenLove can I say I’m a Muslim but I don’t accept Muhamed as a messenger of God. I don’t accept him as a prophet. He’s just a man, a sinner and an ungodly man. Can I be a Muslim then?
That's how/why I left Islam. I don't believe Muhammad. so I concluded I can't be a Muslim, if I reject or question Muhammad and his teachings. Islam is his creation.
I believe God.
@@CocoLala84 okay bye Coco 👋
@@DeenLovedebate Sam Shamoun don’t be scared
Acts 10:10-17
NIV
10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.w 11 He saw heaven openedx and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
14 “Surely not, Lord!”y Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”z
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”a
Sorry sir, the bishop clearly LIED about the Old testament verses in Leviticus. Do you accept that? This isnt about the new testament, they are responding to the Bishop's exegesis and quotation of Leviticus.
@@AbuFadl Old Testament was written before Christ and new Testament was written by Apostles of Jesus Christ through visions and teachings done by our Lord Jesus Christ. In other words the New Testament is a sanctified version which was written after the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
@@Infos12 the Gospels were written by UNKNOWN authors. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John were not the authors. Read that again
@@abdifatahali3919 Peter is one of the highest priest ever existed and this interpretation is written with regard to the vision seen by him. There are many more which advocates to eat pork but I'll refer only when you wish to join our peaceful and true religion
@@abdifatahali3919 Respected! they are his apostles and his apostles are proofs that they heard and wrote about our Loving Jesus teachings and testaments. Whereas your Quran is a lone interpretation or writings by a single person whose sources are full of self interest, hatred towards other religions, promotes war etc. Consider this in a real scenario , which will you trust ? a single interpretation or an interpretation by many? For sure we will all trust the second one cuz single interpretation can be full of bias and self claim
Why are you lying? Ehat 4:171 says.
Issa is Spirit of Allah and Word of Allah cast into Mary.
He is the word of Allah because Allah created him with HIS word
Don't try and play word games.
Stayed quiet 😂 stop interpreting things the way it suits you, that's also a reason why you're bible is corrupted
Literally the whole verse you quoted refutes you lol dont just reference one word in the verse to make it mean what you want... quote the whole verse.
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion1 or say about Allāh except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allāh and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allāh and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allāh is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allāh as Disposer of affairs."
Timegap: you guys dont get it.
The timegame is about how close is the source to a reliable and verifiable document. So john is dated latest 100 ad by most critical scholars(non christian), there is proof it was written before 70 a.d. jesus is crusified estimated at 34 a. d. John would be between 50 to 80 years old when writing it down.
The first documents of Muhammad came 200 year after his suposed life. So time between these documents 100 to 800ad is 700 years.
Gospelwriters: anonymity?
The church has a 'Sanad' for the writtings. Documented by Eusebius, But already in place with the earliest churchfathers. There is no dispute about the writers, it wasnt like modern times that you had a bookcover stating the autor, this is similar for most books/writtings in antiquity. Like the Quran doenst have on its book cover: Zayd ibn Thabit.
The rest: maybe later response
It is you who doesnt get it. You criticize us for 200 years gap of writings of hadith, but the isnaad go back to the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. You criticize us for 200 years, yet you try to verify validity of gospels by Eusebius who died year 339, 4th century. And what youre saying isnt accurate with regards to anonymity. The majority of bible SCHOLARS say the writers of the gospels are in fact anonymous. They cannot be proven or ascribed to disciples.
“All four of the canonical gospels were originally anonymous. It was only in the second century CE, when the four gospels were published a a collection that the superscriptions were added to the gospels, attributing authorship to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John respectively. This is also the time that traditions begin to appear about the authors, claiming that they were either original apostles of Jesus or close acquaintances of other well-known apostles. in spite of these attributions, most scholars do not think any of these men were the original gospel writers. None of the gospels is written in a style that suggests the authors was present at the events being narrated. Nor is it likely that the disciples of Jesus were able to write in Greek, the language in which the gospels were written. So we are left with the reality that the gospels were written by anonymous Christians decades after the events that they relate.” (1)
Dr. David M. Carr (Union Theological Seminary) & Dr Colleen M. Conway (Seton Hall University)
“The four Gospels were published anonymously… they seem to have been written with no authors names attached. We don’t know how or when these names were attached to these Gospels’ that is lost to history.” (2)
Dr. Dale Martin (Yale University)
“The four Gospels were written anonymously between A.D. 70 and 100, and assembled into a collection about A.D. 125. The authors did not provide them with titles, others added them later.” (3)
Dr. David E. Aune (University of Notre Dame)
“Formally speaking, all four canonical Gospels are anonymous since their authors names are not mentioned anywhere within the context of the verses themselves… The superscript of each of the four Gospels is not an original part of the document.. it was likely later appended to the scroll for identification.” (4)
Dr. Ben Witherington (Asbury Theological Seminary)
As for the Quran, why would zayd bin thabit name be on the front page??? Thats dumb since no one ever considered him or the other several scribes as the AUTHORS, Allah is the author. Unlike the bible, which is authored by men who were allegedly inspired by God but the holy spirit seems confused since fabricated verses made their way into your scriptures. Not to mention, all scholars agree the original autograph copies of the bible are not in our possession.
facts...
@@DeenLove💯💯💯
@@DeenLove, there is much to reply to in your comment. It seems you didn't catch the most I said. However I keep my response brief.
You think it is unreliable that the church transmitted the author names via tradition (which is similar to transmission via Isnaad chains). While you refer to Isnaad for the reliability of the content Quran's and Hadith's. There is only a big difference. The authorship or anonymity of a document doesn't say anything about the reliability or truth of the content. The content of the gospels is secured in manuscripts.
I agree with you that mouth-to-mouth transmission is prone the corruption and less reliable than manuscript evidence. Therefore there has been (and still is) much dispute about the Quran's and Hadiths, especially in the early days of Islam. Uthman tried to solve that issue, but failed horribly.
Note that you just claim that Allah wrote the Quran. A claim is not a proof.
Salaam.
@DeBolleLegende absolutely incorrect. The transmission of attribution of names for your gospel have nothing similar because most bible scholars agree that your attributions are ANONYMOUS, i.e. we cannot be sure who those individuals are- Mathew, mark, luke and john. In hadith scienes we couldnt even rely on those gospels for that very reason. In hadith corpus, we know our narrators and have entire books of biographies of the thousands of men in those chains of transmissions. There's nothing secure about your gospels, even some of the gospel endings contradict with one another. Not to mention the cases found of whole fabrications in the king james bible not found in the earliest manuscripts like the story of the adulteress.
Your claim that there are disputes about reliability of hadiths are hilarious. What major scholar of the muslim world questions the veracity of hadiths?
Idk if you're having a conversation with yourself towards the end of what you wrote. Our hadith tradition is unanimously accepted by our scholars, our quranic transmission is accepted by all muslims today. Cant say the same about christains because their are MULTIPLE bibles and one tradition accuses the other of holding uninspired word of God their scriptures: the ethiopian bible, the catholic douay version, even amongst the protestants- there are different translations which omit certain parts due to the belief that its not inspired. So can you find a sect of islam which omits a chapter or verse of the quran saying it is a fabrication?
If Allah can create million, why he failed create a son for him, since Mary could without a male. So your Allah is almughty!
Lol mary didnt create jesus, Allah did. Unless you believe that women who give birth to children are Creators of their children???
He doesn't need a son.
Why would a infinite being need to carry on through offspring ?
Do you even proofread this stuff?
Just yapping away into the void.
حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل
You me English doesn’t make sense. But if you’re saying Allah has a son, you’ve now equated him to his creation and that does not befit his majesty. Read that again
@@bishaarsabtow then why did you Allah had sex with flawed human to impregnate . Why not use spirit just like our God did. Clearly he's a human driven by lust and power
@@bishaarsabtow No that's not what the Quran said, the Quran said Allah Cannot have a son, because he is a limited god. Whereas the God of the Bible is Omni-present Tri-une and unlimited in power. He can have a son and that is why Allah breathe into Mary a soul from him and his word. Isa son of Mary has been said to be called Kalimat Allah aka "The word of God"
Its better use term god instead Allah, because thay think we worship the different God
Christian arabs call god Allah & many rabbis are okay with the usage, understanding it as the Creator. Christians who dispute this are ignorant or liars.
What is the last name of Mohmad. Who is Mohmad?
The last Prophet of Allah.
With the Final Testament for man.
Read or stay ignorant.
The choice is yours.
Muhammad Ibn Abd’Allah
🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Muslims don’t follow Jesus of Nazareth but instead follow a man called Mohammad. But yet in their book they say Jesus is sinless and Holy but they still worship Mohammad
@@ratkotrailovic9600 We as Muslims, worship the same God Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad ﷺ worship and follow the same message to believe in One God. I don’t know where yall get your info from but you’ve been misinformed boss man
😂😂😂 clown 🤡 you just came here to comment you've not even seen this video cause then you'd stay quiet 🤫
@@abdifatahali3919I am not confused my brother but I am confused with your book as most Muslims are but still follow Muhammad and worship him only. I read in your book that Jesus (Issa in your book ? ) is sinless and Holy and is on the throne in Heaven but your prophet is not and you still worship him ? Who is Allah btw ? And are you Arabic ?
@@ratkotrailovic9600 Where is your evidence that Muslims need to worship Muhammad. Allah, who is God, said in Chapter 18 verse 110 of the Quran, Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I am only a man like you, ˹but˺ it has been revealed to me that your God is only One God. So whoever hopes for the meeting with their Lord, let them do good deeds and associate none in the worship of their Lord.”
Bring your evidence we Muslims are told by Allah to worship Muhammad ﷺ
You twos should reach out to Sam Shamoun and Godlogic and have a conversation..
lol Sam will end them this two FOOL is HILARIOUS
@@AleiKore
That's the best you can do?
Sam is a baby who can't debate
How you Jesus did not spoke greek. That was universal language.
The owness is on you to prove! Not us.
He literally spoke Aramaic.
You sound really smart for that one 😭
You don't even know what language he spoke.
May Allah have mercy upon you Matthew
Jesus must’ve spoke English and Spanish too no? lol Ask realistic questions not hypotheticals. Early Christian Scholars and Many scholars of today agree he spoke Aramaic. Read that again
Jesus Christ of Nazareth is The Way , The Truth and The Life
Amen
Jesus is a Muslim, a Messenger, and a worshipper of Allah
@@AliDaGrateJesus is God and your book confirms it. He is Sinless and Holy. Muhammad is a sinner and is in Hell yet you still worship him ! May the Triune God show you the Truth my brother so you can be saved from that Pagan cult
@@AliDaGrate shut your mouth mf
Amen to that
Your first point is not true..
Jesus prayed to his Father..
Muslims don't regard ALLAH as a Father...
And MUHAMMADs Parents are Burning in HELL .
Jesus's mother is a Acknowledged and Praised.
What about Mahummads Mother?
So please don't confuse people...
Why old tastement never talking about God of father???? Not only Muslims even jews believe Christianity is based on lie and paganism
@@AleiKore If Jesus is God, why would he pray to himself? Father was used in the time of Jesus as a term of Endearment. The Father in the Bible calls many his sons like Jacob, Solomon, David, etc. that does not make them his physical sons. Also, the Quran is not an autobiography of Muhammad ﷺ . He did not write the Quran. So it’s not an autobiography about his life. Read that again
Why did Jesus call the father his God? Does God have a God? Are you worshipping two Gods?
My biblical knowledge is not 100% therefore I refer yous to SAM SHAMOUN and GODLOGIC..They are debators .I can only say GOD the FATHER ,GOD the SON and GOD the HOLY SPIRIT are ONE in NATURE...
@@AleiKore don’t start a debate in the comment section then divert us to someone else because you lack the capabilities to defend refutation sent your way. Stay in your lane to begin with
Christian means like Christ "ian" mean AS- like Him
You are either for Christ or anti-Christ !!! There is no other choice !!!! I pray for all atheists , Buddhist, and Muslims to repent their pagan beliefs and not be deceived by the Devil and come to your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth !!!
Is it pagan to worship the God of Jesus or to worship Jesus as God even after he clearly said he had a God? Is it pagan to believe in one God who sent jesus as a messiah or is it pagan to believe in the 3 Gods (god the father, god the son, and god the holy spirit and that all three are not identical to each other)????
Muslims are more Christian than Christians. Jesus worshiped the creator, he dressed modestly, fasted, had a beard, and his mother covered. So either you follow unknown authors or you follow Jesus as Muslims do, there is no other choice. Read that again
Jesus has a father. One who cause Mary pregnant. Allah blew his Spirit and word into Mary and made her pregnant.
66:12& 21:91
Jesus's father according to the bible is also His GOD!!! Do you accept that he has a God?
"Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ” (John 20: 17)
IN THE QURAN WHEN JESUS ADDRESSES THE PEOPLE
He says
Oh PEOPLE OF ISREAL
When musa did
He says
Oh MY PEOPLE Because HE IS ACTUALLY RELATED BY lineage
61:5
61:6
playing games aren't we?
Jesus impregnated his own mother? Please save us this weird rhetoric. He is a Messenger of Allah and we love and respect him as such.
Muslims should watch Christian Prince videos on RUclips or Sam Shamouns
They will learn their book from them and realize the Truth and that is Jesus of Nazareth ❤ May all people find Peace and Love in Jesus Christ name
@@ratkotrailovic9600 Who’ve been refuted already. Please give us better sources that can compete.
@@abdifatahali3919 Never has he been refuted you are dishonest you should call him and see for yourself but most are scared to find out the truth !!! That is Jesus Christ of Nazareth is your God
@@ratkotrailovic9600 yes they have. Let me know if you would like reference to my claim. *Jesus the Prophet from Nazareth Matthew 21:11
You know more about our Bible than your Koran !!! Yet you still claim you are a Muslim but don’t know anything about your religion or care to know. Maybe you are Christian but just want to be a Muslim bc it is convenient to you and where you live. God is working on your heart.
Ps you still haven’t answered my question ? Where are you from and do you speak Arabic? Be honest ?
@@abdifatahali3919sorry that question was to Deen Love not you Abdi !!!
You are doing Taquia
You are sir.
You are....
Prophecies about Yeshua was not just Musa only but from Musa to Makachai.
None of us follow John or Paul but we are follow and ine Yeshua in the straight path.
Quran 43:61-64.
Where did Moses prophecy jesus?
@mathewtitus49 😂😂😂 literally you follow paul. And worship 3 Gods.
That was a bad comparison bc Jesus doesn't quote Moses saying anything outside of the Torah. That's not a good comparison at all and I don't think you understand his point. Mohammed attributes things being said by Jesus found nowhere else but in the Quran.
Which is the point because the bible isnt the injeel, the injeel is what is referenced. The injeel is scripture given to jesus and it is what he was taught. The bible is a compilation of books mostly written by anonymous authors which came long after jesus ascended. The quran came to correct the fabricated teachings and confirm the correct teachings ascribed to the messiah.
Btw, the gospel writers also attribute to the old testament verses that cannot be found. So be careful where you throw stones...
@DeenLove what is the Injeel? You don't know bc it's nowhere to be found. There is no evidence of it outside of the claims made in the Quran. I'm sorry but your beliefs are similar to Mormon beliefs where some book that has never been found that states Ahkmed would be mentioned by name that has never been verified. So you must say the Bible has been corrupted bc it disproves Mohammed and the Quran. It's OK but you are supporting a false prophet
@DeenLove Also the Gospel writer do not attribute old testament verses that can't be found that is just a false claim. The Bible is a hyperlink text and the references are found throughout scripture unlike the Quran which came to alter the truth by claiming everything before it was false without any evidence to show that it is false. Like I always knew something was wrong with the Quran bc they don't worship the Sabbath which is one of the 10 commandments. If it was to correct the corruption it would keep the 10 commandment at the very least. Sadly the Quran doesn't even state what was the law given to Moses bc Mohammed didn't know it.
@DeenLove last point the bible isn't mostly written by autonomous authors. Most of the old testament we know who wrote each book, and any honest person who knows the history of the New testament would know that most of those books we know who wrote them. Let's just stick with Luke and John since both of those authors are 100% known as the authors bc the beloved disciple states he wrote and witnessed these things and Luke obviously wrote Luke. Each gospel was written before the destruction of the temple in 70ad at the latest bc they document this prophecy as not being fulfilled. If you are seeking the truth then seek the truth but the lack of knowledge of biblical understanding is apparent.
😂😂😂😂
God us our father and we are children of God
Physical children or term of endearment?
i love how its obvious the quran is clearly a lie lol
All your friends will be muslims
God is Spirit. He us our father in spiritual sense.
Just like the Prophets
Were
Sons
By honor and spirit
Not literal
Good day Matthew
Same for Jesus or was Jesus his physical son?
Read act 2:22 jeses was not God he was a man approved by God!
You’re wrong about one detail. He did speak Greek because it was under Roman control, and the Romans spoke Greek all the historical text. Say that Greek was the native language for the Jews at the time.
gents don't believe in spells
Why Allah failed to preserve his revelations Tirah, prophecies and Injil.
He didnt fail because he didnt promise to preserve it.
Deen Love you need to read your true Bible
Lol your BISHOP needs to read his "true bible"
Which one? KJV, NIV, ESV, CSB, Eithiopian, etc. There is only one Quran but many many versions of the “Bible” (Read that again)
Pork is the best of meat
Acts 10:10-17
NIV
10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.w 11 He saw heaven openedx and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
14 “Surely not, Lord!”y Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”z
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”a
I'm Christian, my favorite curry is pork
@@Infos12knock yourself out
Self-own
Yeah right 😂
You’re wrong about one detail. He did speak Greek because it was under Roman control, and the Romans spoke Greek all the historical text. Say that Greek was the native language for the Jews at the time. If John spoke Greek, then Jesus also spoke Greek.
Lol you are pre-supposing you KNOW who this "john" is in the first place. Yeah the new testament is in greek, but there is no way of proving the disciples were speaking greek in Judea, an all-jewish culture community, unlike the gentiles outside of the area.
Bart Erhman: In Nazareth Jesus would have had zero reason to learn Greek, and probably no way to learn Greek. Rural Galilee was completely Jewish (culturally) and thoroughly Aramaic (linguistically). Even when Jesus was an adult, there is no reference to him visiting a major city (until he goes to Jerusalem at the end of his life), or speaking Greek, or knowing Greek. He was a rural Jew in the Jewish hinterlands of Galilee. He almost certainly could not speak Greek.
Jesus was raised in a region called Galilee in Palestine in the first half of the 1st century. According to Stanley Porter, the principal spoken language of Palestine at that time was a language called Aramaic. Hebrew and Aramaic were closely related but definitely distinct.
Aramaic was originally the language of a people called the Arameans who ruled parts of Mesopotamia. According to scholar Holger Gzella, the language became more widespread when it was adopted by the Assyrian and then the Neo-Assyrian empires. By the time Jesus was born, Aramaic had been the language of Palestine for centuries.
Because of this, the vast majority of scholars agree that Jesus spoke almost exclusively in Aramaic, specifically in the Galilean dialect of Aramaic which would have been his native language.
How’s that make him a Muslim then in your words!!! You are delusional or jealous bc of your cult. The Koran has too many contradictions to believe it is from God !!!
You are worshiping the devil my brother who probably deceived Mohammed and now the rest of the globe. Do you even speak Arabic??? Or read even half of your book !!
Your religion is a cult and you know it but because of your hatred to the Chosen people you are spreading lies and that’s even worse what you are doing. You can’t even explain your book but yet you know ours. I will make it easier for you by asking you one question to answer please- Name one miracle or prophesy that your prophet did ? Be honest and don’t lie we know the answer but most Muslims don’t
Muslims don’t follow Jesus of Nazareth but instead follow a man called Mohammad. But yet in their book they say Jesus is sinless and Holy but they still worship Mohammad
First of all we follow commandments of Abraham the great father of Moses and Jesus from line of Issac and muhammad from line of ishmael, second Abraham preached monotheism which islam saying that but why Abraham didn't talked about trinity, Christianity is polytheism and copy from Egypt paganism which it's say houros was son of god and born 25th December, jesus was prophet like Moses and muhammad