@yippitydodah The roads out of Norfolk (where the Icini lived) had functioning permanent bridges long before the Romans, and archaeologists have found at least one paved and cambered road leading out of London that dates back hundreds of years before. It is also established that the Celts in Britain traded with the Greeks before Rome was ever built and had acquired those technologies they deemed useful.
Dw i ddim o Llanelli, sbaenwr ydw i... ond mae eisiau ymarfer arna i... I read someday there were pockets of celtic speech all over England even at the time of norman invasion. In the film "Ivanhoe" you see them mentioned. I remember two of the longest lived, one in Cumbria (anglicized form of Cymru) and other by Newcastle upon Tyne, but there were a lot others...
Finally someone that shares the same knowledge of ancient britain. You can only fully realise that england was once the larger part of wales if you get on your cycle and explore your county in england or indulge yourself in the study further. Every county in england speaks differnet for a reason, only the cornish people still speak a similar 80% welsh language normally known as 'Brytonic' a celtic language adjacent to manx, scot's gaelic, irish and welsh itself. Nice meeting you yippitydodah :)
when the Romans came to Britain there was no Scotland it was all ancient British tribes the Scots are from Ireland. the pics the welsh and Cornish are all the same people that's why in Scotland and England you will still find welsh place names Glasgow Dover Derwent Avon all welsh names
And Cumbric too! Even the names are related: Cymru - Cumbri(a), Cymraeg - Cumbraeg(i) Glasgow and Edinburgh were in Cumbria and all come from Brittonic. I applaud the Welsh and Cornish for retaining their language!
All of this history fascinates me! I am American by birth, but my lineage is Welsh. My Grandfather's Surname is Griffith ( my grandfather told me that is the anglicized version and Welsh pronunciation is different). By chance my wife is Welsh also, her grandfather's surname being Davies and she has a hundred fifty year old Welsh bible that we cannot read. All that to say, where can I find out more Celtic history especially to do with the Welsh?
Ihateyou Googgle no, we Picts aren't Gaels, the Pictish language and Culture originated with the Britons but split when the southern celts romanised a bit more
If I recall it correct, Boadicea was the romanized spelling and Boudicca was the anglification of that spelling. In Welsh it would be Bwyddig. By the way, brenhines in the chorus (o frenhines) means Queen, not Princess, that would be tywysoges.
Boudicca or Bwdica in the original, is a word from the Brythonic language that is the ancestor of modern Welsh and Cornish. The modern Welsh is Buddugol, it means "Victor" so it is assumed that this was not her name but an honorific due to her victories over the Romans. She was indeed a Brythonic Celt.
It isn't 'Bwdica', it is Boudica in the original Brittonic and in later Neo-Britonic/Brythonic 'Buddug' in Welsh and 'Buthek' in Cornish. Sigh. Learn Celtic Studies before posting ANYTHING. Pam mae pobl yn postio sbwriel llwyr ar-lein ac maen nhw'n GWYBOD hynny?
I have a lovely Welsh friend called Buddug. She was a classmate at Craig-y-Don Primary School, and John Bright Grammar School in Llandudno, North Wales. She told me that Buddug is the Welsh translation of Boadicea ... and that it translates as "Victory". Greetings to all my Welsh cousins, from Jarrahnut (Colin) in wonderful Western Australia.
Boudicca was Welsh because at the time of her existence all of what is now known as England was part of Wales and her real name would have been buddug, boudicca was what the Romans called her
+lloyd retsam also Norwich is in south east England do it's very unlikely she is from Wales or Scotland. Also Wales isn't completely Celtic, there is also Anglo ancestry in wales
Proud to be born and bred in the heart of Norfolk, England. The homeland of the native celtic tribe 'ECENI'(iceni) once capital city- Venta Icecorvm( Caister st. Edmund). 'the land of the horse people'....horse-drawn chariot warriors lead my the fearless Queen Boudicca. The only celtic tribe to wipe out 80,000 romans, march over 200miles and punish caesar destroying london, colchester and st, albans in the same year. She lived for bravery, thrived on courage ,fought for freedom and died in honor
Allwn i ddim clywed run gair. :-( I´r digymraeg : Boudicca is the ancient British word/name that has evolved into the Modern Welsh form Buddug which means Victoria or Victorious.
@yippitydodah I'm from Essex and before that, I think it was where the Trinovante lived. It was south of the Iceni lands, roughly where Norfolk is today, that Bodicca came from. the Trinovante joined the Iceni in the destruction of Colchester.
@escole48 She was the queen of the Iceni, but the Romans describe rituals (such as divination by releasing a hare and interpreting its path) performed by Boudecca and only druids were permitted to carry out those rituals. The Roman histories are infuriatingly vague and they say almost nothing about her outside of her military exploits and references they don't appear to have understood.
There is also numerous iron age round barrows and hill forts from the iceni tribe, burials, shields, spears, solid gold torcs, broochs, iron age jewellery hoards, three famous iceni ancestral rooted tourist places of interest- thetford, caister st. edmund and cockney cley. Out of all norfolk the west and once the fens islands names are left of celtic norfolk. The iceni were good metal workers and had an interest with horses i.e today newmarket head of racing...land of the horse people
@yippitydodah Oh! Perhaps Trinovante (Esseex) chariots had Daran and Sharon written either side and their wode was a little more blingy then most - on second thought; perhaps Essex does work - LOL Yeah, it does have more punch... :)
Boudicca is the Romanized spelling, I believe. Almost nothing aside from coins and a few buildings has survived from the Icini (the Roman retaliation was extremely brutal) so we don't know the Icini spelling of her name. In a way, she was victorious - she is still a terrifying figure in Italian children's stories, long after the last of the Romans perished.
@bushido4368 She vanished into thin air, leaving nothing but rumours. You can write whatever ending to the story you like, but there were many tribes that had much sympathy for Caractacus and Boudecca. And Caractacus, after his capture and release by the Senate, had a safe haven in Rome which he may have offered to Boudecca. She was also druidess and the Druids needed a leader. Lots of possible endings.
@2206411411 That's why I am intrigued by her. I always consider to make some sort of historical novel inspired by her figure, but not so much information I can get since her background is quite obscure, especially her childhood (and I'm living in Asia, not England). I have gotten two different opinions bout her; either she was a charismatic leader, or brutal slaughterer.
iceni was pronounced (e Ken e) very similar to Kent we say Iceni because of the way the English pronounced it of course they got it wrong because they don't speak WELSH. dwr fa -dova- Dover means water way in welsh
I noticed that the Welsh names are all shown in lower case. Do you know why it is that way and why it makes a difference to using initial caps for names the way we do now? Thanks.
@2206411411 I think I'll have to think hard about how to end the story, since the stories behind her death are so vary. This sure will be a long work, but thanks a lot for for your encouragement. Aside from my future flaws in the writing process, deep down I'm always be inspired by her story (this is a woman's opinion for another woman:-))
Studied this woman Boudicca for years and wrote a play about her. Shakespeare who in deference to his friend did not write a play about her specifically his Cymbalin is indeed about her. Other than minor interest from a movie group I am still searching for a willing venue I am continually told the cast is too big and too costly to produce so an Amateur Theater Group may have to be considered. . Although my play has had third read if anyone would like to add to my research base please do. .
just to correct you there, considering i am born and bred in norfolk, england homeland of the native iceni celtic tribe and queen boudicca. Boudicca wasn't an english woman for the anglo-saxons didn't enter england untill the 5th century. England in her day was celtic- ENGLAND BEING THE LARGER PART OF WALES starting in 1st century until 43 AD when the romans invaded england. She probably in her later years pre-meditating her revolt saw the younger generation being romano-britons. 'Romanized'.
@bushido4368 Her background is extremely obscure. We know that the tribes in Britain married between each other for political reasons, so she was almost certainly not Icini by birth. Her red hair suggests either she or one of her ancestors was Brigante. Her death is just as obscure, since "noble suicide" was a Roman tradition not a British one. Despite Roman claims of a massacre at the temple in Colchester, no human remains were ever found there.
The absolute nonsense in this comment section truly amazes me. Boudicca was not Welsh, nor was she English. There was no such thing as Welsh at the time. The language she spoke was Common Brittonic, which is the ancestor of Welsh, Cornish and Breton. During the Anglo-Saxon migrations, the Britons who spoke Common Brittonic were pushed westward and isolated from each other, and therefrom the language diversified into the three Brittonic languages we have today: Welsh, Cornish and Breton. Common Brittonic resembles Latin more closely than modern Welsh. This is because, as with all Indo-European languages, they are from a common source. Brittonic is just one branch of the languages deriving from Proto-Celtic, the others being Irish, (probably) Pictish, and Gaulish. Brittonic was almost identical to Gaulish in many ways. Here is a sample of Brittonic: "Biyū eni tegesi eni cumbāi eti attrebāyū petesres damatās war decan." This means "I live in a house in a valley and I own fourteen sheep." The astute among you will notice that this looks barely like modern Welsh. This is because over the course of 1500 years, a language is bound to change a fair bit. No English speaker today could understand the "English" the Anglo-Saxons were speaking, it's just too long a time and too many changes. They'd be able to pick up a word or two, but not much. But employing the strategy of picking up a word or two, we can see some familiar words from Brittonic in Modern Welsh. (Presented are the nominative headforms of the nouns, not the inflected variants, i.e. cumbāi in headform is cumbā) biyū --> byw (live) cumbā --> cwm (valley; the change in spelling is due to orthographical standards, the "u" in Brittonic is identical to Welsh's "w") damatā --> dafad (sheep) petesres --> pedair (four; feminine) decan --> deg (ten) In modern Welsh this, I believe, would be something along the lines of: "Dwi'n byw mewn tŷ mewn cwm a dwi'n meddu pedwar ar ddeg defaid" I hope this is evidence enough to disspell the rumours that Boudicca was somehow Welsh. She spoke an ancestor language, but in Iron Age Briton there was no cohesive 'Brittonic' identity, the sole fact that they spoke the same language would not mean an Iceni tribesman in Boudicca's army would see himself as kith and kin with a northern Brigantes tribesman or western Dumnonia tribesman. The idea of a cohesive culture and identity is ludicrous in the same way it would be ludicrous for future linguists to suggest that because Americans, Australians, and New Zealanders all spoke English that they'd all consider themselves tea-drinking God-fearing Englishmen. Boudicca was a tribal queen protecting her vows and violated sisters against a general who swallowed more than he could chew. Her rebellion was a tale of intrigue, bloody battles, and gruesome death, but it was NOT some kind of romanticised rebellion by a cohesive set of 'Britons' against an oppressive regime. Enjoy the lovely music, and stop spreading misinformation rooted in 19th century Romantic nationalist bollocks.
don't forget the Cumbric language from the old north or yr hen ogledd modern day south west Scotland to north east England. it was spoken up until the 11th or 12th century
She was Brythonic Celtic the Welsh are Brythonic Celtic she was a ancestor close enough....and please don't write me a ten page essay witch I won't read
A "ten page essay" of about three paragraphs is unfortunately needed to dispel myths about Boudicca being related to the modern Welsh. The modern Welsh are descended from the ethnolinguistic group of which she was a part, but in calling her Welsh you can also equally define her as Cornish or Breton; the three groupings of Welsh, Cornish and Breton are the surviving descendents of the Brittonic people (note also Cumbric which as a language died out in the 11th to 12th century in northern England and was subsumed into England to form the modern-day understanding the England's borders.) Calling Boudicca Welsh is unhelpful and creates misconceptions about the historiography of the time period she lived in.
She was not English either. That is not the claim I'm making. I'm very simply saying that the idea of either the English or Welsh laying claim to an ancient historical figure due to nationalism is unhelpful, unscientific, and disrupts understanding of the time period in a contemporary context.
at "Arwain ni i fuddogoliaeth", I'm hearing, "Arwain ni vi fuddogoliaeth" (and even then, it sounds like fuddogoliaeth is shortened). I'm a new Welsh speaker and am learning, but I keep hearing "ni vi". Are the lyrics correct or am I missing something?
Bottom line...Who was the invader and who wasn't?......Who was defending their home and who wasn't?...."Make a desert and call it peace"?...I am Native American and Celtic,actually both my parents were and if you read a history book,you will see the parallels between Romans and Latter Europeans in their dealings with indigenous peoples.This would come to be known as Manifest Destiny...No offense intended and I've not seen anything about her childhood either...Peace!
no! they were cwmry or Britons they wouldnt be called Welsh before the anglo- saxon immigrations of the 6th century, Welsh means 1)foreigner 2) stranger 3)slave..take your pick
Of course, the 'Welsh' themselves were fairly late iron age invaders of Britain. Iron age Britain experienced numerous invasions. Granted, these invasions were from populations and cultures little different from those already there. So its hardly as though Britain had become some kind of creole society even after the Romans left. They went into the Iron age as north west European genetic stock, and came out of it pretty much the same thing.
The Welsh are the descendants of the Brythoniaid (meaning Britons). They are the original inhabitants of Southern Britain: up to Cumbria from Cornwall and everything in between. Welsh is the dominant remaining Brythonic language along with Cornish and Breton.
TorchedKiwi Define "original". They aren't the original settlers of the Isles, and the Isles were inhabited by other peoples when the first identifiable Celts/Brythons arrived, well before the start of the historical record in Atlantic Europe. However, if my memory is correct, there's no evidence this arrival was an "invasion" either, it may have been a relatively peaceful immigration of settlers from the Continent.
They were certainly not the first people here by any means, but they´re the first we have a name for, any history about, and any legends etc. from their culture. They may well have absorbed a lot of things from the earlier cultures, but here we only have archaeology to go on, and pots don´t speak.
You have to understand that languages all change over time (unless artificially frozen like Classical Latin, Ancient Greek etc.) In the same way that French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian etc. all evolved from Latin, so Welsh, Cornish and Breton all evolved in their different ways from the language of the Ancient Brits which was spoken before during and after the Roman occupation. We don´t have any texts in British longer than a few lines scratched on a pot etc. but we have plenty of personal and place names. Also we have more remains of Gaulish from the continent, which was closely related to British. The sound system of British wasn´t very different from Latin at the time, so the Romans didn´t have too much difficulty in writing down British names. Although Boudica got miscopied later by Roman writers, since it was meaningless to them. Nevertheless it´s a pretty good representation of something like /bu:dika:/ which over time developed into the Modern Welsh name Buddug which means ´victorious´.
@yippitydodah The roads out of Norfolk (where the Icini lived) had functioning permanent bridges long before the Romans, and archaeologists have found at least one paved and cambered road leading out of London that dates back hundreds of years before. It is also established that the Celts in Britain traded with the Greeks before Rome was ever built and had acquired those technologies they deemed useful.
Big thanks for all of you who have liked this. Ceredwen is one of my personal favorite and I love to share it!
It's a beautiful song!!
Dw i ddim o Llanelli, sbaenwr ydw i... ond mae eisiau ymarfer arna i...
I read someday there were pockets of celtic speech all over England even at the time of norman invasion. In the film "Ivanhoe" you see them mentioned. I remember two of the longest lived, one in Cumbria (anglicized form of Cymru) and other by Newcastle upon Tyne, but there were a lot others...
Finally someone that shares the same knowledge of ancient britain. You can only fully realise that england was once the larger part of wales if you get on your cycle and explore your county in england or indulge yourself in the study further. Every county in england speaks differnet for a reason, only the cornish people still speak a similar 80% welsh language normally known as 'Brytonic' a celtic language adjacent to manx, scot's gaelic, irish and welsh itself. Nice meeting you yippitydodah :)
when the Romans came to Britain there was no Scotland it was all ancient British tribes the Scots are from Ireland. the pics the welsh and Cornish are all the same people that's why in Scotland and England you will still find welsh place names Glasgow Dover Derwent Avon all welsh names
around 50% of England is welsh land, i don't know why they don't teach this in school's it makes me angry.
Aberdeen mouth of the river deen , Aberfeldy Penrith Catterick Catraeth battle beach , Malvern Moelfryn bare hill , Dover Dwfwr water,
And Cumbric too! Even the names are related: Cymru - Cumbri(a), Cymraeg - Cumbraeg(i)
Glasgow and Edinburgh were in Cumbria and all come from Brittonic. I applaud the Welsh and Cornish for retaining their language!
All of this history fascinates me! I am American by birth, but my lineage is Welsh. My Grandfather's Surname is Griffith ( my grandfather told me that is the anglicized version and Welsh pronunciation is different). By chance my wife is Welsh also, her grandfather's surname being Davies and she has a hundred fifty year old Welsh bible that we cannot read. All that to say, where can I find out more Celtic history especially to do with the Welsh?
Ihateyou Googgle no, we Picts aren't Gaels, the Pictish language and Culture originated with the Britons but split when the southern celts romanised a bit more
thanks, great song.
Queen of the Iceni...
Really nice.
If I recall it correct, Boadicea was the romanized spelling and Boudicca was the anglification of that spelling. In Welsh it would be Bwyddig. By the way, brenhines in the chorus (o frenhines) means Queen, not Princess, that would be tywysoges.
Boudicca or Bwdica in the original, is a word from the Brythonic language that is the ancestor of modern Welsh and Cornish. The modern Welsh is Buddugol, it means "Victor" so it is assumed that this was not her name but an honorific due to her victories over the Romans. She was indeed a Brythonic Celt.
The Iceni tribe of South East Britain. she was named as Boudicea in Roman writings way before she went on the rampage of war Peter
It isn't 'Bwdica', it is Boudica in the original Brittonic and in later Neo-Britonic/Brythonic 'Buddug' in Welsh and 'Buthek' in Cornish. Sigh. Learn Celtic Studies before posting ANYTHING. Pam mae pobl yn postio sbwriel llwyr ar-lein ac maen nhw'n GWYBOD hynny?
İ really like this type musics. These are charming to me. İ just wanted to mention. Hı people of nsture from Turkey. Really elegant language
Celt culture reaches back in ancient history to your own homeland 😁
May Boudicca return and help us against the new Roman Empire of One World.
I have a lovely Welsh friend called Buddug. She was a classmate at Craig-y-Don Primary School, and John Bright Grammar School in Llandudno, North Wales. She told me that Buddug is the Welsh translation of Boadicea ... and that it translates as "Victory". Greetings to all my Welsh cousins, from Jarrahnut (Colin) in wonderful Western Australia.
Manda Scott has written some excellent novels about Boudicca.
Boudicca was Welsh because at the time of her existence all of what is now known as England was part of Wales and her real name would have been buddug, boudicca was what the Romans called her
She's from Norfolk so ur wrong there
+lloyd retsam there Celtic languages in England. Heard of Cornish. There names are cornish
+lloyd retsam also Norwich is in south east England do it's very unlikely she is from Wales or Scotland. Also Wales isn't completely Celtic, there is also Anglo ancestry in wales
Nynz yw Kernow rann a Bow Sows! Gwlaz Kelteg yw hi :-)
Buddug is Modern Welsh. Her name in the British of the time was probably Boudica or something similar.
Proud to be born and bred in the heart of Norfolk, England. The homeland of the native celtic tribe 'ECENI'(iceni) once capital city- Venta Icecorvm( Caister st. Edmund). 'the land of the horse people'....horse-drawn chariot warriors lead my the fearless Queen Boudicca. The only celtic tribe to wipe out 80,000 romans, march over 200miles and punish caesar destroying london, colchester and st, albans in the same year. She lived for bravery, thrived on courage ,fought for freedom and died in honor
Currently writing a paper on it, she from Norfolk. She is an awesome figure to study
originally from the Parisii kingdom in yorkshhire befor she married Prasutagus of the Icenii
Allwn i ddim clywed run gair. :-(
I´r digymraeg : Boudicca is the ancient British word/name that has evolved into the Modern Welsh form Buddug which means Victoria or Victorious.
@yippitydodah I'm from Essex and before that, I think it was where the Trinovante lived. It was south of the Iceni lands, roughly where Norfolk is today, that Bodicca came from. the Trinovante joined the Iceni in the destruction of Colchester.
@escole48 She was the queen of the Iceni, but the Romans describe rituals (such as divination by releasing a hare and interpreting its path) performed by Boudecca and only druids were permitted to carry out those rituals. The Roman histories are infuriatingly vague and they say almost nothing about her outside of her military exploits and references they don't appear to have understood.
@rhiannon14982 She was a great figure, alright. I have been intrigued by her spirit since I didn't remember when
There is also numerous iron age round barrows and hill forts from the iceni tribe, burials, shields, spears, solid gold torcs, broochs, iron age jewellery hoards, three famous iceni ancestral rooted tourist places of interest- thetford, caister st. edmund and cockney cley. Out of all norfolk the west and once the fens islands names are left of celtic norfolk. The iceni were good metal workers and had an interest with horses i.e today newmarket head of racing...land of the horse people
@yippitydodah Oh! Perhaps Trinovante (Esseex) chariots had Daran and Sharon written either side and their wode was a little more blingy then most - on second thought; perhaps Essex does work - LOL Yeah, it does have more punch... :)
Beautiful video. Nadine
Boudicca is the Romanized spelling, I believe. Almost nothing aside from coins and a few buildings has survived from the Icini (the Roman retaliation was extremely brutal) so we don't know the Icini spelling of her name. In a way, she was victorious - she is still a terrifying figure in Italian children's stories, long after the last of the Romans perished.
@bushido4368 She vanished into thin air, leaving nothing but rumours. You can write whatever ending to the story you like, but there were many tribes that had much sympathy for Caractacus and Boudecca. And Caractacus, after his capture and release by the Senate, had a safe haven in Rome which he may have offered to Boudecca. She was also druidess and the Druids needed a leader. Lots of possible endings.
@ec5aca Thanks. This also serves as a correction for the lyric translation
By Welsh he means the Britons, or Brythons, which became the Welsh after the Saxon invasion
@2206411411 That's why I am intrigued by her. I always consider to make some sort of historical novel inspired by her figure, but not so much information I can get since her background is quite obscure, especially her childhood (and I'm living in Asia, not England). I have gotten two different opinions bout her; either she was a charismatic leader, or brutal slaughterer.
@gwenowen456 Oh definitely.
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there is a discription of boudicaby the roman Cassius dio that's interesting.her name meant victory .
Storm Bringerr : The Romans really screwed over her tribe if you read about the details and her complaints.
Hail Boudicca!
iceni was pronounced (e Ken e) very similar to Kent we say Iceni because of the way the English pronounced it of course they got it wrong because they don't speak WELSH. dwr fa -dova- Dover means water way in welsh
I noticed that the Welsh names are all shown in lower case. Do you know why it is that way and why it makes a difference to using initial caps for names the way we do now? Thanks.
btw the first picture is very roman = insult to buduga considering her story.
@2206411411 I think I'll have to think hard about how to end the story, since the stories behind her death are so vary. This sure will be a long work, but thanks a lot for for your encouragement. Aside from my future flaws in the writing process, deep down I'm always be inspired by her story (this is a woman's opinion for another woman:-))
Studied this woman Boudicca for years and wrote a play about her. Shakespeare who in deference to his friend did not write a play about her specifically his Cymbalin is indeed about her. Other than minor interest from a movie group I am still searching for a willing venue
I am continually told the cast is too big and too costly to produce so an Amateur Theater Group may have to be considered. . Although my play has had third read if anyone would like to add to my research base please do.
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Did anyone ever take up the play?
@bushido4368 I'd also encourage you to go ahead and write the novel. You're an excellent artist and I have no doubt you would write a wonderful story.
just to correct you there, considering i am born and bred in norfolk, england homeland of the native iceni celtic tribe and queen boudicca. Boudicca wasn't an english woman for the anglo-saxons didn't enter england untill the 5th century. England in her day was celtic- ENGLAND BEING THE LARGER PART OF WALES starting in 1st century until 43 AD when the romans invaded england. She probably in her later years pre-meditating her revolt saw the younger generation being romano-britons. 'Romanized'.
@bushido4368 Her background is extremely obscure. We know that the tribes in Britain married between each other for political reasons, so she was almost certainly not Icini by birth. Her red hair suggests either she or one of her ancestors was Brigante. Her death is just as obscure, since "noble suicide" was a Roman tradition not a British one. Despite Roman claims of a massacre at the temple in Colchester, no human remains were ever found there.
Spelling not a big issue with me......SHE is badass & took them all by storm. Hero!!!
The Romans described the British Tribes as having Chariots ! So We had roads
cool :D
like it
The absolute nonsense in this comment section truly amazes me. Boudicca was not Welsh, nor was she English. There was no such thing as Welsh at the time. The language she spoke was Common Brittonic, which is the ancestor of Welsh, Cornish and Breton. During the Anglo-Saxon migrations, the Britons who spoke Common Brittonic were pushed westward and isolated from each other, and therefrom the language diversified into the three Brittonic languages we have today: Welsh, Cornish and Breton.
Common Brittonic resembles Latin more closely than modern Welsh. This is because, as with all Indo-European languages, they are from a common source. Brittonic is just one branch of the languages deriving from Proto-Celtic, the others being Irish, (probably) Pictish, and Gaulish. Brittonic was almost identical to Gaulish in many ways.
Here is a sample of Brittonic:
"Biyū eni tegesi eni cumbāi eti attrebāyū petesres damatās war decan."
This means "I live in a house in a valley and I own fourteen sheep."
The astute among you will notice that this looks barely like modern Welsh. This is because over the course of 1500 years, a language is bound to change a fair bit. No English speaker today could understand the "English" the Anglo-Saxons were speaking, it's just too long a time and too many changes. They'd be able to pick up a word or two, but not much. But employing the strategy of picking up a word or two, we can see some familiar words from Brittonic in Modern Welsh.
(Presented are the nominative headforms of the nouns, not the inflected variants, i.e. cumbāi in headform is cumbā)
biyū --> byw (live)
cumbā --> cwm (valley; the change in spelling is due to orthographical standards, the "u" in Brittonic is identical to Welsh's "w")
damatā --> dafad (sheep)
petesres --> pedair (four; feminine)
decan --> deg (ten)
In modern Welsh this, I believe, would be something along the lines of:
"Dwi'n byw mewn tŷ mewn cwm a dwi'n meddu pedwar ar ddeg defaid"
I hope this is evidence enough to disspell the rumours that Boudicca was somehow Welsh. She spoke an ancestor language, but in Iron Age Briton there was no cohesive 'Brittonic' identity, the sole fact that they spoke the same language would not mean an Iceni tribesman in Boudicca's army would see himself as kith and kin with a northern Brigantes tribesman or western Dumnonia tribesman. The idea of a cohesive culture and identity is ludicrous in the same way it would be ludicrous for future linguists to suggest that because Americans, Australians, and New Zealanders all spoke English that they'd all consider themselves tea-drinking God-fearing Englishmen. Boudicca was a tribal queen protecting her vows and violated sisters against a general who swallowed more than he could chew. Her rebellion was a tale of intrigue, bloody battles, and gruesome death, but it was NOT some kind of romanticised rebellion by a cohesive set of 'Britons' against an oppressive regime.
Enjoy the lovely music, and stop spreading misinformation rooted in 19th century Romantic nationalist bollocks.
don't forget the Cumbric language from the old north or yr hen ogledd modern day south west Scotland to north east England. it was spoken up until the 11th or 12th century
She was Brythonic Celtic the Welsh are Brythonic Celtic she was a ancestor close enough....and please don't write me a ten page essay witch I won't read
A "ten page essay" of about three paragraphs is unfortunately needed to dispel myths about Boudicca being related to the modern Welsh. The modern Welsh are descended from the ethnolinguistic group of which she was a part, but in calling her Welsh you can also equally define her as Cornish or Breton; the three groupings of Welsh, Cornish and Breton are the surviving descendents of the Brittonic people (note also Cumbric which as a language died out in the 11th to 12th century in northern England and was subsumed into England to form the modern-day understanding the England's borders.) Calling Boudicca Welsh is unhelpful and creates misconceptions about the historiography of the time period she lived in.
@@ValStartaker ok she was English as fish and chips a proper Norfolk gal ....
She was not English either. That is not the claim I'm making. I'm very simply saying that the idea of either the English or Welsh laying claim to an ancient historical figure due to nationalism is unhelpful, unscientific, and disrupts understanding of the time period in a contemporary context.
at "Arwain ni i fuddogoliaeth", I'm hearing, "Arwain ni vi fuddogoliaeth" (and even then, it sounds like fuddogoliaeth is shortened).
I'm a new Welsh speaker and am learning, but I keep hearing "ni vi". Are the lyrics correct or am I missing something?
how did you come to learn that?
The Assyrians called the Israelites khymri the welsh still call themselves Cymru
i've yet to see yours
Bottom line...Who was the invader and who wasn't?......Who was defending their home and who wasn't?...."Make a desert and call it peace"?...I am Native American and Celtic,actually both my parents were and if you read a history book,you will see the parallels between Romans and Latter Europeans in their dealings with indigenous peoples.This would come to be known as Manifest Destiny...No offense intended and I've not seen anything about her childhood either...Peace!
both, she was a freedom fighter.
why have they done it with fail midi when it could have been written and played on real instruments?
Let's say in another way: dw i'n gallu siarad Cymraeg ond mae eisiau ymarfer arna i...
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It's Boudeg in Welsh and it basically means victory (in the lyrics, the last verse includes the word victorious which in Welsh is boddugol) :)
say 'Pud deek kaaa'
I can speak Welsh, but I need practice...
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Albion*
This video is trolling
Joseph Cook What do you mean?
Boudica in Welsh would be properly 'Buddig'! :-)
the icini tribe was welsh...
no! they were cwmry or Britons they wouldnt be called Welsh before the anglo- saxon immigrations of the 6th century, Welsh means 1)foreigner 2) stranger 3)slave..take your pick
right i'm the troll and i bet everyone else here who posted before you are trolls to.
What the hell has a Welsh nationalist got to do with a Welsh historian
Of course, the 'Welsh' themselves were fairly late iron age invaders of Britain. Iron age Britain experienced numerous invasions. Granted, these invasions were from populations and cultures little different from those already there. So its hardly as though Britain had become some kind of creole society even after the Romans left. They went into the Iron age as north west European genetic stock, and came out of it pretty much the same thing.
The Welsh ain't invaders their the natives of the island.
The Welsh are the descendants of the Brythoniaid (meaning Britons). They are the original inhabitants of Southern Britain: up to Cumbria from Cornwall and everything in between. Welsh is the dominant remaining Brythonic language along with Cornish and Breton.
TorchedKiwi Define "original". They aren't the original settlers of the Isles, and the Isles were inhabited by other peoples when the first identifiable Celts/Brythons arrived, well before the start of the historical record in Atlantic Europe. However, if my memory is correct, there's no evidence this arrival was an "invasion" either, it may have been a relatively peaceful immigration of settlers from the Continent.
They were certainly not the first people here by any means, but they´re the first we have a name for, any history about, and any legends etc. from their culture. They may well have absorbed a lot of things from the earlier cultures, but here we only have archaeology to go on, and pots don´t speak.
You have to understand that languages all change over time (unless artificially frozen like Classical Latin, Ancient Greek etc.) In the same way that French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian etc. all evolved from Latin, so Welsh, Cornish and Breton all evolved in their different ways from the language of the Ancient Brits which was spoken before during and after the Roman occupation. We don´t have any texts in British longer than a few lines scratched on a pot etc. but we have plenty of personal and place names. Also we have more remains of Gaulish from the continent, which was closely related to British.
The sound system of British wasn´t very different from Latin at the time, so the Romans didn´t have too much difficulty in writing down British names. Although Boudica got miscopied later by Roman writers, since it was meaningless to them. Nevertheless it´s a pretty good representation of something like /bu:dika:/ which over time developed into the Modern Welsh name Buddug which means ´victorious´.
you claim she's pre celtic icae age, lol prove that.