Miami Bunker Project: Fall 2024 Update
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Last November, I announced that the Railway Museum in Miami, Manitoba succeeded in acquiring, excavating, and relocating an authentic 1960s Fallout Reporting Post (FRP) from the Nuclear Detonation and Fallout Reporting System (NDFRS). This summer, the Museum staff and I succeeded in making a great amount of progress in restoring and preparing the FRP for public display; the exhibit is on track to open in early summer 2025.
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I like the way it’s half buried. People can see how it’s made.
I would bury it at around the entrance and up to the 'fence' level, but keep the back exposed, this way you could walk around to see how it's made but still make it feel 'underground'.
I agree, it’s a great visual.
If this video is true, you likely would have been killed by explosion in these shelters. Propane cook-tops and mantel lanterns. If the combustion gases didn't kill you, the explosions would. These things are VERY dangerous in these shelters. Just about a year ago someone with one of these shelters was doing propane cooking in it with the door open and it still exploded. Propane will sink right to the bottom and just sit there waiting for an ignition source.
If this video is true, you likely would have been killed by explosion in these shelters. Propane cook-tops and mantel lanterns. If the gases didn't kill you, the explosions would. These things are VERY unsafe in these shelters. Just about a year ago someone with one of these shelters was doing propane cooking in it with the door open and it still exploded. Propane will sink right to the bottom and just sit there waiting for an ignition source.
@@tarstarkuszthey're not using propane, they're using naphtha.
I like the half buried, too. Looks more interesting and accessible than a mound of dirt. Plants and flowers are a great idea. AND: Great Work!
I think this is wonderful for you to take on this project. As a child I remember doing "Duck & Cover" drills as well as not understanding the Cuban Missle Crisis because of my young age but, feeling very scared about nuclear war. I think it is very important to remember this period, I appreciate all your work!
For corrosion protection, you can apply cathodic protection. To do this, you need to bury a zinc plate near the shelter and connect it to the structure.
Works great for Museum Ships
that's already what the galvanic coating does. no need to be redundant
@@Hephera Yes, as long as it remains intact on most of the surface, it provides protection. As it gradually oxidizes, it continues to protect the metal. However, replacing galvanic coating is difficult, and so-called cold galvanizing doesn't have independent verification of its effectiveness. It’s just paint with zinc powder, which is isolated from the metal and the environment by the paint’s polymer binder.
Never a disappointing video here. Glad you do what you do!
Very good work all round, thanks for all your efforts and work. Top marks!
I like the half buried look as well!
The Morse key in the Mk 5 field telephone was not intended for use in a telegraph circuit, but instead used a "power buzzer" to communicate over a conventional telephone circuit. That is, when the circuit is too poor to use speech, eg if the line had broken or was just a single wire relying on an earth return. They could in fact communicate (to a nearby telephone network) with just a broken line laying on the ground.
Wonderful work. I love how you tell the full story, warts and all.
This is a great exhibit! Well done Gilles and museum staff!
As a child in 1959 Dayton, Ohio, I recall visiting in company with my parents, a bombshelter sales display. It consisting of a handful of below-ground models, ranging in size and complexity, established in the parking lot of our local shopping center. We as schoolchildren still practiced “Duck & Cover” exercises in the ground floor hallway of my grade school. (Also same practice for tornado alerts)
Excellent work, very thorough and detailed.😊
Fantastic work ! Greetings from Belgium.
All in all a great project and restoration. It is important to have items like this preserved so all future generations and the present are reminded of the extreme danger of nuclear weapons and the consequences if used. The somewhat flawed system, as in the use of a city based telephone exchange, demonstrates our futility of dealing with radiation monitoring for a "safe level", at least historically.
Interesting to compare this to a uk 🇬🇧 observer corp Cold War shelter. Great video
I was thinking the same thing. I’m fascinated with the UK ROC posts and UK WMO network as a whole.
I’d prefer the UK Observer Corps bunkers; they weren’t downwind from 2/3 of all the US ICBM fields, the SLBM base in Seattle, and the nuclear armed B-52’s in Spokane.
Canada sure got the fuzzy end of that lollipop. 😬
gov dont save history. people like you do. good job man, thats actually a lot of work and you are humble about how much time and effort you have into this
If we let them spend more money they would be able to preserve more history than they already do.
Would be great to visit. Only a straight 1304 miles (2099km) from my door.
bravo Mr. Messier! may i suggest doing something period correct with the new door? maybe a wheel that bellcranks two bars into the ceiling and floor? it might set the scene. and since you cant climb in the normal way, itll fill in on the experience. probably keep people out pretty good too.
Amazing work amazing result. One day you will have your own museum. ❤
Awesome restoration. So glad to see a history buff doing important work here in Canada! You are doing great work! 👍
Bravo sir , well done . I'm a Aussie subscriber
Great tour of the restoration project, thanks for bringing us along
Well this was released late at night but a welcome surprise it is
Thanks for preserving history
Well done, thank you sir for this!
Hi Gilles, how about doing a piece on the British Royal Observer Corps? Why? The Canadian system seems to have been based on the ROC system albeit manned in a different manner. The ROC were uniformed part time civil service volunteers who were part of the Royal Air Force (sounds complicated I know but it’s as a result of history and the Battle of Britain).
The ROC had mainly underground posts built to a standard buried design from reinforced concrete and equipped with various monitoring devices and reported to local purpose built HQs. In the UK the system worked successfully until the end of the Cold War and were disbanded in 1991. I served for 21 years in both posts and at HQs. Enjoyed myself and met some really good people.
Fascinating, Gilles! Thanks for your work in this. I now hope to visit Miami one day
Hard work, excellent results.
Hey that's a pretty great bunker......Thank you for putting in the time to make such an interesting display.....
Thank you for preserving our Cold War history, it was a very long and costly conflict that very few actually understand the toil we went through to keep the bear at bay.
Outstanding work! A very cool exhibit and a great way to show it.
Very cool.
I'm officially impressed. 👍
Have you considered renting it out for the "apocalypse camping" experience?
I'd be willing to pay for something like that.
Great you were able to turn one of the shelters into a museum exhibit. I doubt younger folks will be able to understand the feeling of knowing any day could be your last at the start of WWIII. As a babyboomer here in the US I remember the bomb shelter craze and even have a couple of Civil Defense booklets from the era.
When I was a kid my neighbor had a fallout shelter built in back yard.
Nice work! (: as always :)
Proper historian work
Such a cool project. I'm unlikely to ever be in Manitoba, but if somehow I retire to an RV lifestyle and cross Canada for a summer, I hope it's still there to see in-person.
That reminds me of the UK Auxiliary Unit's OB's and Listening stations.
Nice video.
Very cool preservation project. I am surprised that the Canadian Railroads were involved in this 1960's project, that's a story unto itself.
Looks like that shelter would make an excellent tornado shelter!
Fantastic work!
TipTop Gilles! Well done!!
....looks like the fallout shelter from the early 60s...I remember reading the gummint pamphlets that arrived at my dad's store in Fort Lee, NJ...right across the GW Bridge from Manhattan...
Very clever... Install and prep a fallout shelter under the guise of being an exhibit... He watches the news! lol
Nice video - very interesting.
Looks good. Nice to see one saved.
Great video, Gilles...👍
I've been in a UK Observer Corp version (I know the owner, it's now a private museum) the layouts similar, but it's a concrete box rather than corrugated iron.
There's quite a large group in the UK restoring, and preserving these, including central command stations
thank you, I love your passion
Way to go! You've done a lot of work. Going outside to take measurements and having no communication during the war actually are problematic :)
Great work!❤
Excellent work. It's great that you have been able to put this together. I'm concerned about your use of dirt fill around the galvanized bunker. I suspect the reason the bunker survived so well in it's original location was because it was surrounded by sand which drains very quickly. From the look of the dirt I can see it is likely to hold moisture against the metal. Replacing dirt with sand and gravel may be a better plan. Prairie plants may still be used as many prairie species survive on poor, droughty soils.
Such a neat project and a rare insight into the bunker craze of the 60s.
Thank you!
I’m grateful for you and people like you who possess both curious minds and great communication skills that allow your viewers to learn about a whole host of subjects. I really appreciate it!
(Great communication skills in all areas excepting how a Californian can pronounce your name - even though yes,I’m did watch your video about it… my bad, not yours lol)
Thanks again (and I’m just gonna call you) “Jim”.
Great video. You should do a video covering the define bunker in Ottawa.
Great job
Good Job!
Many Cold War era Coleman military lanterns were stashed in Civil Defense shelters, as opposed to being sent to operational units. They were olive drab in color & turn up quite often “new in the box”, see ebay. They were packed with spare parts & extra mantles in typical military fashion. Not necessarily what might have been issued here, but they do look very military.
Consider using a drawing or rendering of the installation as it would be in the ground either inside or just outside while leaving the installation as it is for maintenance purposes. That way it is easy to see how it was built and installed.
awesome!
An asbestos curtain keeping the fallout out and asbestos in :)
Anyway, fantastic work, congratulations!
To be fair, fallout is far worse than asbestos.
It's beautiful.
Imagine spending 2weeks trapped inside this glorified tin can with another person, covered in radioactive fallout... Those installations make it real for a moment.
telegraph ran through the rails?
that sounds like a video topic
You pressure washed the loose lead paint chips off. You my friend have created a superfund site.
@6:20 "Radiation measurements didn't have a good plan."
Just hold the rad instrument by the air pump as it sucked in the fall out. lol.
Fallout particles won't go into the air pump as the inlet points down.
@@hotpuppy1 That is false because otherwise vacuum cleaners wouldn't work.
There was a fiberglass filter pad in the top of the air pipe.
Asbestos curtain! Why didn't I think of that as a way to keep harmful particles from entering my lead paint lined fume-filled spider hole!
Since the shelter is tubular shaped, and has a flat inner floor, there would be a considerable amount of storage space under that floor. I wonder if they utilized that space? I'm old enough to remember when they sold and installed shelters like this to survive a nuclear war. They still make and sell them, they're just called tornado shelters now.
Interesting
The pencil dosimeters were used in a nuclear power plant I worked at. We called them direct reading dosimeter or DRD's. The ones we had seemed to be a smaller in diameter.
8:09 You cannot run these things in shelters. Not mantle lamps, not cook tops. Not only are they a hazard in the gasses they generate, but they are also an explosion hazard, the fuel being heavier than air. There was just a big explosion in someone's bugout shelter because they were cooking with propane in an underground airtight shelter with the door open.
This is not the Miami we think of on the states, but I'm glad I'm seeing this. Just, slightly confused.
Imagine the special kind of hell of being stuck inside of one of these for weeks while waiting for radiation levels above to fall to even moderately survivable levels after a thermonuclear holocaust would have been.
Looks great! Don't cover it any more then you have. It'll be more eye catching the way it is and everyone will understand.
great work! please point out the differences if there are any to the ones used in uk.
Fantastic restoration! Do You guys plan on adding information plaques explaining all the stuff featured on the video
👍👍👍
Pfff, you covered the lead paint and didn't put the asbestos curtain?
Not a true replica if there's no long term damage with it.
The half-buried looks neat, but to allow visitors to imagine the actual ground level while still being able to see the outside, you could have a (UV-resistant) cloth or screen stretched between poles to show the actual ground level. Maybe put a few fake plants on it around the edge...
That looks like a huge fire extinguisher for that space, but apparently that's what the equipment list calls for...
Is there anything in the space below the flat floor?
Er. That’s a delux Anderson shelter isn’t it 😊
Love your show, this is a good contribution to society…..I think you need to guess less though and make it more accurate, god bless
This is so neat
Unless the tours are going to be exclusively guided, you're going to need to put up plexiglass to avoid souvenir takers and graffiti.
Lead paint, asbestos curtain. Are you sure the inside is safer than the outside?
yeah , dont use formal shoes to climb stairs
In the future lets not be removing lead paint with a pressure washer. Only action that would atomize more contaminants would be media blasting.
Removing the leaded paint reduces the radiation protection
Source: Homer Simpson 🍩
Question re the asbestos curtain. This would protect against radiation, sewer gas, or what? Other than that, very good work on a project that seems to have been launched at best, half-baked, and very poorly funded or equipped.
Basically window dressing. Would've suppressed a minimal amount of contaminated dust transfer to the rest of the living area at best. Almost pointless.
With another madman in the Kremlin, making a 'replica' of a fallout bunker seems like a pretty good hobby to take up.
Cool very cool, but lets talk about that tiny little chemical toilet... for two weeks... no way...
Is this on Airbnb?
7:50 I have the same exact kettle! Do you know who made it and how old it is?
Lead paint makes sense for a radiation shelter. Makes me think of the Simpsons episode where Homer's liberal use of such paint saved the house.
The extremely thin layer of lead oxide in the paint would have had no significant effect on radiation attenuation.
@@Muonium1 That's why Homer used so many layers.
People act like a nuclear war is impossible.
I just do not see That toilet there being able to handle two adults output for two weeks, just don't see that happening!?! 💩🤢
Your luck to have this. You may be using it soon. Our politicians are idiots
It's useless now.
I have 2- 20lb bags of cedar sawdust and a 5 gallon bucket as my emergency shelter toilet. Works amazingly well.
2 weeks Eh? Will it have WiFi, and an address for radioactive pozza delivery