Why North Melbourne Should Relocate to Canberra
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- This video outlines why I think the North Melbourne Kangaroos should relocate to Canberra and become the Canberra Kangaroos.
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north melbourne isnt gonna nudge, theyve been offered by the afl numerous times to relocate and denied all of them
At one point there gonna be forced no matter the fans opinions
Nope, can't be forced. North's licence belongs to the club which is controlled by the members, so it couldn't be done without a majority member vote (good luck with that). Same thing prevented the Melbourne Hawks merger.
Looks like AFL would have to pay off the North Melbourne members to agree to a relocation to Canberra.
Wrong, one single offer, Gold Coast 👍
Unless the the AFL cut off our funding plus at the end of the day gws own Canberra
It would be the Canberroos. If North Melbourne went to be the third perth team... Would it be Joondalup Roos or with Wanneroo being another hub next door therefore become the Wanneroos.
2nd pressure team in the afl right now, We just won, we have not had a loss by over 17 points since the bye, we are coming!
GWS only play in Canberra when their home ground is unavailable due to the Sydney Royal Easter Show. During this period they could easily play their home games at the SCG. This would allow a team to permanently re-locate to Canberra and this should be the Kangaroos, imho. But this will not happen until the Tasmania Devils are entrenched, which will be 25 years, same as the timeframe the AFL initially set for GWS and GCS. When this time is up there may be an appetite for further expansion. North should move to Canberra and the obvious market for the 20th team will be to have a 3rd team in Sydney,
Great video! Loved the detail in this video.
Great Vid. I've thought for many years it would be a perfect fit. Canberra Kangaroos has a nice ring to it, it's the national emblem, and isn't that far north for the current fans to travel plus they will still play plenty of games in Melbourne. Darwin would be good for the 20th if the AFL can raise the money for a $1.2B roofed/air-conditioned stadium otherwise it's either the Perth Falcons based out of Joondalup which would be the closest existing (West Perth seem most feasible ahead of Norwood in SA) or if they need to grow the game further, think about setting up a team in Newcastle. Cairns doesn't quite have enough people in the region to support a team full time.
With territories within Melbourne, clubs used to have a zone in which many people would actually barrack for the club. My understanding is that Bulldogs and North were newer clubs in high migrant areas (especially Bulldogs). North were squeezed by the other clubs and the industrial area to my understanding. Many years ago North should have gone north to the fringes of the metro area and grown a strong supporter group there. That's what they should have been doing in the 1960s like Saint Kilda did. Saints have managed to grow a fan base by being more into the bay area as a result. Hawks had the advantage of being east and there being no clubs further out. Of course they also won premierships which helps. North have still the opportunity to give back to the league and really work into a community of non AFL fans and try to bring the people to the game. They get big payouts from AFL so should give back.
they're not moving mate, just let it go
North Melbourne isn't going anywhere, especially with the redevelopment that is currently taking place in North Melbourne and the Arden Street precinct and there is no way Canberra would accept them as their team because they burnt the city 20 years ago, and as a North Melbourne supporter who lives in Canberra, I'm reminded of this on a regular basis. North Melbourne is financially secure (debt free and profitable) and are building a strong AFL team that should begin climbing up the ladder next season and before our recent troubles our membership numbers were better than or equal to the Dogs, Saints and Dees so hopefully with some upcoming success our membership numbers will be comparable again.
This is such a stupid video, you do realise that North Melbourne are debt free and you cannot relocate a team that is financially stable nor you cannot fold a business. Every team goes through bad times at some point, North aren't the only ones. If you really think that North Melbourne should relocate then you are crazy!
The NMFC administration CANNOTrelocate North, and neither can the AFL! They do not have the power to do so, whether the club is debt free or not. Only a 75% majority of the members can force a relocation, which will never happen. This is just another poorly researched piece from some kid who thinks they're an AFL social media analyst.
Yep, it’s gonna make it even better seeing people like the creator of this vid crying when North are back at the top
As someone who has ZERO loyalty to the Roos, it makes a TON of sense. Yeah, no North fan will like it, but it is great for the game as a whole. Will it happen? Almost zero chance, but that's not the point of this video.
@@wanbaclone it literally makes zero sense but sure I bet you’ve read “norf = bad” all over the internet so I can see why it would make sense to you lol. If Norths goal was to lose their record breaking memberships and profits, then sure move to Canberra lmao
@@ChuckGibbs39 Nope. Haven't read "norf = bad" and North fans are the real deal. But since I have no skin in the game...which gives me a modicum of distance FROM the game...I'm arguing dispassionately. I get why every North fan thinks this is a terrible idea: You guys love the Roos. No problem. I am simply saying that if you lay aside NO NORTH FAN WANTS THEM TO MOVE, it IS a great idea for the league. Again, for the LEAGUE, not the TEAM.
This is a non-starter. The AFL doesn't have the power to relocate North Melbourne, the decision can't be made without a majority member vote, which will obviously never happen, and they have no leverage to force a move because of North's financial position. Not every club can be huge, one has to be the smallest, and if anything happens to North the people who think there's too many teams in Melbourne will just come after Footscray next, it never ends. And it's bullshit, 9 teams in the biggest footy city where the game was born isn't too many, it's just fine.
You say Canberra Kangaroos sounds like a good fit, I say that sounds like acid being poured in my ear. If you want a club to relocate to Canberra, how about you vote to relocate your own club?
But surely North Melbourne can't sustain itself being the smallest and arguably most irrelevant Melbourne club of the 21st century? It feels like they need a change to become relevant and genuinely competitive again.
@@danieljdtaylor sure we can, we've been able to so far. when onfield results turn around crowd and membership numbers will improve, there hasn't really been a dropoff in members over this recent period of shitness which should tell you something about the stubbornness of north supporters.
@@danieljdtaylor how does moving to a 13k Manuka oval in Rugby League territory make us more sustainable? would need considerably more funding than we do now
@@danieljdtaylor yet north have the same amount of premierships this century than blues and saints. And we have made plenty of finals in this century. Before 2016 we were always around the mark. So idk how that makes us the most irrelevant Club in the 21st century.
North Melbourne aren't moving, what a dumb video
Hmm I'm sure the serious North fans will be on board with this
I’ll never understand the obsession opposition fans have for killing a team with a rich history. So what if it’s a small club? Better then becoming some plastic franchise.
Who does it serve to have a team relocate? You?
Just shilling corporate interests.
Well South Melbourne went to Sydney, so why not? This is not VFL anymore.
North is being propped up by corporate interests. Rich clubs are supporting clubs like North. Its all about money. If not for the sharing of money then North wouldn't exist. Problem with North is that they are not increasing their supporters So their supporter base is getting comparatively less and will continue. There is no longer a zone in which fans support the local team. Fans watch footy on TV.. Play in central venues. Some teams get all the tv coverage and best times to watch footy. Superior media coverage and blockbuster games... North will just slowly go.
@@Joshdyisdifh Thanks for proving my point, another franchise that acknowledges a history of what it's exactly not.
Sydney is not South Melbourne.
@@BDub2024 Yeah, North will outlast me and you.
You'll just there forever spinning the same rhetoric.
@@BDub2024 if 'North is being propped up by corporate interests' what would those interests be if apparently 'Rich clubs are supporting clubs like North' they contradict each other big man.
'If not for the sharing of money then North wouldn't exist' Also, poof? or do you just feel that way?
I agree that a hard decision needs to be made. North Melbourne seems to have way too much power over the AFL, or the AFL are complete pushovers when it comes to these sorts of decisions. The competition needs to expand out of Melbourne. I'd argue there needs to be two teams move out of Melbourne to be brutally honest, and moving North Melbourne as one of them makes sense.
Why do you think two teams need to move out of Melbourne?
"North Melbourne seems to have way too much power over the AFL" lol yeh, like saying Scunthorpe has power over the EPL
@@limbus66 because 10 teams in Victoria while some regions have no teams doesn’t make sense. Even if you move two out that’s still 8 teams in the home of footy so Melbourne still dominates the footy landscape, but you get a diverse and widespread competition making it as national as possible
@@limbus66 9 Melbourne teams is too much, this is AFL not VFL.
@@Joshdyisdifh it's all well and good to say this but why? Other than you reckon?
If North doesn't budge then we should consider Canberra Koalas!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Move North to the NT/North Queensland, call themselves the Northern Kangaroos to preserve heritage while embracing their new location, and be done with it.
I like the idea of Canberra as well, but I feel Canberra deserves their own team built from scratch after the VFL/AFL’s long history of stitching them up.
Lol what a complete waste of time.
North need to relocate in the next 10-20 years cos their club is going nowhere right now and has been for the last 25 years or so since their successful 90s decade. Yes relocation is hard for supporters to go through but financially speaking it’s the right choice, look at Sydney? they went from a struggling small club In Melbourne to becoming one of the most popular and successful clubs in the AFL just by moving to Sydney. Canberra Kangaroos is a nice fit due to the name being the national animal of our country, plus this gives the Roos a new marketing region in the Riverina and Canberra region who are big on footy over there so having a club represent that area would be good aswell.
Genuine question. What would you know about the relocatable demographics of a sporting organisation? Anything?
financially speaking? they're literally debt free lmao
Definitely the right option, they definitely should’ve been the original Gold Coast team, NT wouldn’t work as I doubt a lot of players would wanna live up there
Canberra got GWS giants already. If anything, I want the Kangaroos move to Newcastle. As we lost the Newcastle Falcons from the NBA and I’d love to see a furry sporting mascot of a team in Newcastle and the knights mascot isn’t a furry character even though it’s possible to make him an anthropomorphic animal in knights armour and niether is Jet Man which is the Newcastle Jets mascot but a knock off roger ramjet. Make them Newcastle Kangaroos.
North aren’t moving. We’re on our way up
Realistically north should relocate to the NT then Canberra gets their own standalone team
This is something that really should've happened 25 to 30 odd years ago when the AFL was forcing struggling Melbourne-based clubs to make the tough decisions. North just so happened to be a high-performing team throughout the mid to late 90s, which kind of gave the club a false sense of security. Once the memorable players such as McKernan, Carey, Martyn, King, Pike, Archer, Pickett and Bell, gradually began to either retire or move onto other clubs, the club retreated back to the stupid "Shinboner Spirit" claptrap, which just gives the club a poor-man's image that people like to pretend to say is appealing when in reality it isn't.
They may well have become a great relocation story (like the Swans)... or not. We can only speculate. But it's not like the last 20-odd years have been anything to laugh about with them stubbornly remaining in Melbourne. Nevertheless it's too late now.
Seems most of the comments have already spoken but I'll add another point that you'd have to live in Canberra which why would anyone who isn't associated with politics
Canberra kangaroos sounds cool. Too many teams in vic and we need a southern NSW team. GWS doesn’t count
So join in the chorus and sing it one and all join in the chorus Canberra's on the ball. Good old Canberra they're champions you'll agree. Kangaroos are the team that plays to win for you and me
Absolutely zero logic was used (and this was edited with my nans toaster). I have many, many, many questions to how you leap to so many conclusions,
How does it resemble previous clubs like Fitzroy and South Melbourne? (other then the logos) you just said it than moved on.
The fact that there isn't a team in the capital, again irrelevant because what does it have to do with North Melbourne as a club? why not pick another random 'struggling' club?
The stuff about us rejecting a move to the gold coast, then playing in Tassie due to crowd numbers, do you just pull this shit out of your ass or what? - We play games in Tassie as a part of a deal with the AFL to develop the area (like the Hawks) but somehow this is a reason why we should move to Canberra?
You bring up South Melbourne again for no reason with zero context, they were in a world of debt and the choice was move or fold, north on the other hand, isn't in debt. So what's this similarity you keep bringing up? crowd numbers? Size of Geographic area?
I'm not even going to ask about 'helping even out the distribution of teams' just laughable and, THE NAME AND THE COLOURS!? I mean come on man.
North have burnt Sydney (pre-Swans... it's what provided the idea that a Sydney team might work, if given long enough), Canberra, Tasmania and the Gold Coast. They have been offered chance after chance, but their supporters simply refuse to accept reality. Which is sad, but true.
Frankly, the only place they will be relocating to is the insolvency department. And that would neatly solve the so-called "need" for a 20th team.
considering we're still around, debt free, and not even our worst onfield period in a century could make the members drop off in any significant numbers, maybe it's you that needs to accept reality
@@limbus66 You perhaps think I want the Roos to disappear. I do not. But I just can't see how they garner a support base as things stand. Your members are as loyal as billy-o, but there just aren't that many of them.
I would much prefer (as we very nearly were, pre-Bears) to be the Gold Coast Cats than non-existent. Or, perhaps worse, merged.
I just think staying as is condemns the Roos to a future of mediocrity. Surely the Shinboner Spirit can be directed in another way?
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.
No just no move gws last match I went to I go for Carlton there was 10k and 9k were calton supporters
this is pointless north are financially good the saints would need this more lmao
Hard yeah
Another 20 something relocating someone else's club. A permanent relocation of the NMFC requires 75% member support. Won't happen, can't happen. Do some research next time.
Canberra Emus FTW
Could not agree more.
Be for Brisbane Lions it was Brisbane Bears
maybe the least successful club in the old VFL should relocate. St. Kilda
absloutle bullshit
Canberra is barely above 12 degrees for the next week. No one will go to footy when its that cold. I just can't see that its feasible.
That's more of a reflection on how soft Australians are than anything. Numerous regions of both North America and Europe go through winters that drop a hell of a lot lower than 12 degrees. And professional sports clubs survive there.
@@eddielong8663 It was 17 degres yesterday in Perth and was absolutely freezing. Temperature dropped to 12 degrees during the game and rained. It felt like 7 due to strong wind as well. People were amazed that 40k turned up. I guess with Freo being top 4 and Sat night. But the issue is often what people wear. You saw girls wearing crop tops and guys with tshirts. Its those same people that would complain that its too cold to go to footy. Usually if its raining a lot of people don't go to the footy here. Spoilt with too much good weather.
Raiders have there hardcore fans that go in that weather. And Tassie is going to be worse with the same temperature and the wind off the Derwent. I would argue the preference option of the the Fan poll in Darwin will be worst for injuries in the Monsoon conditions
@@barrydobson2283 Hobart has an indoor stadium for footy. But I think putting it on the waterfront isn't the best location for winter.
GWS should be the Canberra team, as they lack support in Sydney. GWS could play North Saints and Melbourne home and away... Then Sydney could play North home and away in Canberra. That would give Canberra 8 games per year. At the same time GWS would play 6 games and North would play 4 games. Then see how many people go to games in Canberra as they'd get 8 games. North would have a presence there as would GWS. Fact is that GWS need lots of fans in W Sydney and country NSW/ACT or they'll be a constant drain on the competition. Its critical. Canberra is not fast growing and would struggle to hold a club by itself. That is the role of GWS. If they're smart they'll go straight for West Sydney ACT Giants. Be known as Western Sydney or Giants. Totally remove the stupid GWS name. They're tyring to bring people in West Sydney to the game and they're referred to as GWS.
Can you do a video on St Kilda to relocate to Cairns?
As a Saints fan I think we should seriously consider a relocation to Cairns. I think it will be more desirable for players due to the fact they will be living in Paradise. North Queensland also has a way bigger population of 700,000 if you include down to Mackay, that will grow to 1mil plus.
A lot of people from Melbourne already holiday there mid year. I would rather relocate to Cairns prior to North Melbourne, than be left with relocating to somewhere less desirable as Cairns has already been taken.
I would love to see a video on a relocation to Cairns.
I like this.
or...you could actually show up to games
@@Adam-XL😂😂
There aren't the fans in Cairns. Also Saints wouldn't be suitable for a club there. Certainly Saints wouldn't be suitable for Canberra either. Perhaps Canberra Sinners instead of Canberra Saints. There aren't the fans in N Queensland. The competition isn't a charity.
@@BDub2024 it depends what the goal behind expansion is.
Is the goal to grow the game to new audiences to increase revenue? or to increase the presence in already saturated markets?
Targeting large volumes of population to turn them into fans would be the best commercial approach for the AFL.
Cairns is already on a strong growth trajectory.
As of the 2019 AFL report into Queensland, Cairns has the highest participation rate of any region in the state. And the third highest growth rate behind Brisbane North and Brisbane South.
The popularity of AFL in the region is not far off NRL.
I recently visited Cairns and saw it first hand. Have you been to Cairns recently?
Canberra is still north of Melbourne at least.
There’s also the option for north to go to the NT as they’ve just got given the whole territory for their academy
No they didn't. Check your facts.
@@secysb2910 yes they did have u watched the news
@@benjaminrowley Show me the article ? Tom Morris & Carowhine Wilson " report "..............................
@@secysb2910look it up north Melbourne academy
@@benjaminrowley they didn't. gold coast has darwin which is most the pop anyway.
Most north fans, all north fans you mean. North has been around for about 155 years and we not goin anywhere
The sport is called Australian rules not AFL. FFS
God, please no
North were offered $100 million dollars by the AFL to move to the Gold Coast before the formation of The Suns....they said "no"...which was a mistake. Unfortunately, at this point in time, they're not going anywhere but they should go interstate. St Kilda should also relocate...they have been the least successful club in the history of the VFL/AFL...1 premiership in 127 years is not a great strike rate...... my grandfather played for the Saints from 1897 to 1901 and did not win one game in his 20 odd appearances. So, I am not a Saints hater.
And who do you barrack for champ? It is always someone who follows the 'BIG' Vic clubs who try to relocate North. You can all get stuffed we are not going anywhere. We might be small but we are a heart and soul club, not an AFL owned money making franchise. Spare me your economic rationalism, what would you really know about North's situation? Do what's best for the game bullshit? Do what is best for the AFL bottom line you mean.
Oop, someone’s upset that facts are being stated 😂
@@zaco21_ Name one fact, just one In this video that is a reason why north should move to Canberra.
Norths suuuuuck
Relocating ANYONE to Canberra should be banned by the human rights commission 🤮
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What a load of BS.
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