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I live here in Panama. And Darien is probably one of the most beautiful, green, warm and mysterious places I have visited. You certainly know how to tell a story. Thank you.
Starvation, disease, and the inability to stay on good terms with the natives doomed European colonies in the new world from Massachusets in the North down to Argentina in the South.
@@ce1834 Hi. Darien is huge. It is one area. It is jungle, islands, beautiful ocean. Every where you go in Darien is different. There are very poor areas, with the displaced from the war in Colombia, who traveled very dangerous jungle to get there. But the area where they settled is breathe taking. I traveled for five years there to teach. It is a complicated area. With very interesting indegenous folks, lovely people, and very proud settlers. We are fighting so they never open the gap because it would ruin the ecosystem.
@@RagingDong You lookin ' for trouble ? Well you've come to the right place,. Unless you want to misbelieve that crap you just posted. You can't have a whisky tonight for New Year if you won't take it back.. In fact next time you need antibiotics you won't get any, as the Scot who invented them won't have done so in your eyes. No Penicillin either. You can say goodbye to your Wi fi and anything you have which connects you to those you would castigate. Those people are too glorious to have to come across your Criminal Crap.
@@corryjookit7818 Sorry, mustve hit a bit of a nerve there. I know fully well how much has been contributed by scots, im cornish so i am fond of celts. I was just taking the piss.
''Darien will be the door of the seas, the key of the Universe'' I see that overselling your venture and generating unreasonable levels of hype about it is not the invention of the 21st century tech bros
In all fairness, the Darien Gap is, to this day, has not been tamed by man. Its the only reason there is not a trans-america high way, and its not from a lack of effort.
It may be of interest to you, Google Land Rover Trans Americas Expedition. Soon after the Range Rover was launched in 1970 two of them covered the entire 18,000 miles in 1971 from Anchorage to Terra Del Fuego and by far the biggest obstacle was the Darien Gap. The expedition took six months in which the 250 mile Darian Gap took around 100 days in itself! IIRC to date, these are the only two cars in the world to have completed that journey. They are still around, one at the Gaydon Heritage museum in Warwickshire and the other is in the Dunsfold Collection.
The opinion of an pair of idiots counts for nothin. Ya pair o Morris dancin BawBags. We will have the last laugh on the Germanic Englanders conquered by a mere 9000 Normans. GIRUPY
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and Scots. Or Welshmen and Scots. Or Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots they ruined Scotland!
Thanks for this fascinating story Simon. It's hard to imagine life without instant communication and motorised travel. Even harder would be going to work every day, feeling like shite, covered in boils, and a crazy fear of the supernatural.
Never really payed attention to history in school, well didnt pay attention to much of anything in school, but now here I am binge watching these videos. Just completely fascinated by history. My new found fondness for learning is shocking to me, and how knowledgeable most of the people in the comments are as well is amazing. Maybe the world isnt as rotten and doomed as I thought. All of you rock!!! Thank you!!!!!
I love that your channel covers stuff I haven't seen on like Wendover or Lemmino. Just really cool stuff you're covering, I really like the work being done here. Thanks
It's not massively surprising that a bunch of Scots didn't fair well in the equatorial jungle, we're used to our rain being cold Edited: Dear lord, people, it was a joke!
Would you consider doing a sequel to this video? The French attempted to colonise Panama about 200 years after the Scots, with pretty much the same results.
That does not suit the current political argument that the msm and same old same old cunts are promoting. Can't even be bothered watching the rest of this duffers video, and pretty sure he never mentions the actual fact the King James was the power who made the English investors withdraw their money from the venture, also does he mention the English navy standing by when the Spanish attacked the Scots settlers?
@@pauls3204 Which part of the meaning of "independence" you're missing here?. Scotland wanted to act as an independent nation, and assert that status. Which was perfectly legitimate. But as independent sovereigns of your own nation and state you should also be independent protectors of your interests. If you're claiming to the four winds how independent you are but then you expect a foreign country to come and protect you when you're in trouble, or to expect no consequences when you launch ventures that will damage another nation's economic interests to favor yours, yet you expect that nation to do nothing to protect itself or even go to war with a third power you've managed to piss off on your own, then what you want isn't independence to begin with. You want the benefits of being independent, but taking none of the responsabilities that come from the status you want to attain. Genius, you. But things don't work that way. Namely, Darien was a SCOTTISH colony founded by a SCOTTISH enterprise to favor SCOTTISH independence from England by establishing a business that would heavily damage a BRITISH economic venture (that of the EIC). Then why on earth are you complaining that the ENGLISH banned their own population from investing in a venture that would damage english economic interests, that the ENGLISH boykotted the enterprise whenever their could, or that ENGLISH armed assets didn't bust ass to go to a war against a foreign power to protect something that wasn't ENGLISH to begin with, and that actually was founded to hurt english economic interests to begin with?. Or is that independence only works when it's favorable to you, but you don't want to deal with the obvious consequences and demands that come attached to it?. Like dealing with your own damned problems without expecting someone you say is foreign to come and help you, just because you want/need them to, even when it actually doing so would be against their own interests as an (also independent) nation?. You want to live as an independent country, with your own rules, reach and influence, self-government,etc. All of that is a legitimate wish, I don't have anything against that. But then stop asking for help from the nation you claim to be independent from whenever the going gets rough. And stop complaining when you get none of that. Simple, huh?. You want independence, then want it with all consequences, which means your people and nation covers for your own enterprises and not expecting "daddy england" to come and help you out of nowhere, for no good reason and in fact against their own interests. And this is a spaniard talking, I'm not english, I don't have any special liking towards them nor I have any special animosity against the scots (in fact if anything I have a deep sympathy for you given how fucked you've been by the whole brexit stupidity when the scots didn't want it at all). But that doesn't mean I don't get completely sick with arguments like this: if you want something, then accept the whole consequences and responsabilities of attaining whatever you want. Otherwise, stop pushing for it, FFS.
@@pauls3204 Actually he does mention that King James had English citizens divest and that his order prevented the first group of colonists from obtaining more supplies.
So interesting! I love your videos, and I really appreciate you putting subtitles. As an extra fact, nowadays the Darien hasn’t become any kinder to most of companies. Its dense forest is so unforgiving that the pan American highway had to be split in two as it was not possible to build through the jungle. The only businesses that currently operate in that area are drug cartels and sort of.
Cameron Steele the Scottish government itself never had any internationally recognized control of the province. Official control went from the French flag to the British flag. 📜 REALFACTSMATTER 📜 POLITICALSCIENCE1987 📜 INDEPENDENTSINCE1988
1:00 - Chapter 1 - The darien & its potential 2:55 - Chapter 2 - A nation in need of an idea 6:10 - Chapter 3 - Paterson's plan 10:25 - Chapter 4 - The 1st expedition 13:55 - Chapter 5 - The 2nd expedition 16:55 - Chapter 6 - Aftermath (the act of union)
England and Scotland are that couple sitting at a table down the pub ignoring each other, and when they get home they wake up the neighbours with a ding dong row.
to be fair to them - having the foresight for the precursor to the actual panama canal (something they wouldn't have deemed possible) does seem like a pretty smart idea on the face of it all... but theres always logistics..
Imagine if they had succeeded! Imagine a Panama crossing two hundred years earlier, and Scotland controlling the great bottleneck of the world, charging tolls at the crossroads between Europe and the New World! What a shocking new world that would have been!
Samantha Claus If it wasn’t it would be called El Tampon! Sorry, I had to say it 🤷🏻♀️ Thank you for the education! Hope you are having a lovely day/night 🇺🇸🧡🇵🇦
I remember hearing that the Darien Gap had a 50 mile/km(?) wide section with no proper paved roads, which prevents people from being able to drive between North America and South America.
This is an interesting type of video as it more like the telling of a historical story than the detailed history of a place which I've long wanted to see from this channel and although it may not be a well known story that's irrelevant as learning about a new historical figure/place is always a joy and this video is not exception. Now this doesn't fit the format of "geographics" per say but I'm excited to see more videos of historical stories tied to locations next perhaps you could do Jamestown or the winter that George Washington spent at valley forge or something like that maybe even moorish occupied Spain whatever you decide to make I'll look forward to it and thank you for another wonderful video
I did a semester of research on this in college, looking closely at Wafer's maps. This video is really well done and nails the big impact: the loss of Scotland's hope of independence
Thanks for this, I'd to explain to fellow Scots that this led to the union between Scotland 🏴 and England and in all fairness we did go on to create the empire that the sun never set on although we never see the sun here for it always rains
id also like to explain to my fellow Scots that Scotland wasn't actually bankrupt they lost 160k, England at the time was in 18m debt, only some of their rich nobles lost money, who were later bribed with lands in the Caribbean and money paid towards them if they voted in favour of the union, also an entire party was paid by England to vote in favour of it, lets not forget they station soldiers in ulster and the English border with threats of invasion if it wasn't accepted. now the scheme itself why was the architect of this scheme supporter of the king who made sure it failed. William was meant to be king of Scotland also but used the navigation act to stop Scottish trading with colonies, and convinced Dutch and Portuguese not to help either? then when Scotland was on its knees they introduced the alien act a few years later which treated all Scottish lands as foreigners in England which lead to confiscations and a trade embargo which accounted for half of Scottish trade at the time. so no we were part of the colonial empire of England built they just used the term "British" to make it look like we are all same people. we are not. yes some like all colonised nations accepted it but it wasn't wanted in Scotland at all their was marshal law imposed due to numerous riots all over Scotland because of it. the ones who didn't accept the union had their lands stripped and sent to the colonies as prisoners. TLDR: the union was a lie it was forced and it was never wanted, now Scotland Wales and Ireland are last bastions of English colonialism. in 10 years time the union wont exist. thank god
@@chosenundead6376Give your Irish plastic Paddy slave mentality a rest, as beautiful as it is, you dont want to wear it out. Save it for when you beg on all fours and bark. Scotland is not Ireland, never was like Ireland and has nothing in common with Ireland, Scotland was every bit an ambitiously imperial nation, arguably even more so than England, and it is not and never was a colony. Great Britain came to be only because the Kingdom of England (with the Principality of Wales) entered into a union with the Kingdom of Scotland which then led to the Kingdom of Great Britain, which, was after a Scottish crown take over 104 years earlier.
I'm being extremely patient waiting on the Potala Palace video. But the whole "nobody ever colonized the new world with a wrinkly shirt" made the wait a bit better.
@@Damo2690 lol what. The Scots came from Ireland! (Or possibly the Irish may have come from Scotland temporarily in ancient times. Plus Ulster and Ulster Scots too.
@@reddyshreddy5050Are you for real? Scots are not and never were Irish. The word 'Gaelic' was not widely used prior to the 16th century, prior to that it's definition used to be synonymous with the word 'Scottis', so not Irish. What you call Scots-Gaidhlig is actually properly called 'Albannach' in its own tongue, which means Scottish, Albannach relates to Alba (Scotland), which itself relates to the island of Great Britain's oldest and most ancient name - 'Albion'. Irish-Gaeilge is 'Eirennach' (Irish) in its own language, Eirennach is not as mutually intelligible with Albannach as some people pretend it is, it has no more similarity than focussed braid Scots does with standard English, the reason why is because Albannach is far more the conservative language of the two - having retained most of its ancient forms and changed very little over time, whereas Eirennach (Irish) has evolved and changed a lot over the past thousand years or so. Either way though, the word 'Gael' has more to do with France than either Scotland or Ireland, despite what some writers believe, it does relate etymologically to 'Gaul' - which was the name of proto-France during the Pax Romana. As does the Greco form 'Galatia'. Even the 'Gall' part of the word means 'foreign'. In fact it was the Roman - Tacitus himself who believed that the southern Britons (pre-Anglo-Saxon, proto-English in all but name) were partly related to the Gauls - it was from this view of his that modern historians came up with the idea that Britons started as a wave of Celts migrating from Gaul. Even though the word Gaul itself comes from Weidhala (proto Indo-European for 'forest people'). While the Angles only comprised about 3% to 4% of what is today South-East Scotland and this was due to that part of the land being for a brief period of history a part of the old British kingdom of Northumberland. However the Scottish capital was not Edinburgh at this time (it was Scone), so it would still be inaccurate technically to include them as part of the Scottish population of that era. It would be like saying that Newcastle used to be Scoto-Pict because it was colonised by the Scots and held to ransom once after the battle of Newburn, for a time until England paid to have it returned because it was an important source of coal for the English treasury at that time. Or to a lesser extent, claiming that Doncaster is Scottish (which technically still has more credibility) because it is still subject to the near 900 year old Treaty of Durham between David I of Scots and Stephen of England and was never formally handed back to England by the Kingdom of Scotland prior to the 1707 Act of Union - which led to the Kingdom of Great Britain. Plus, over 87% of all the place names in modern Scotland are still derived from Albannach, this would not have been likely if Scotland has changed too much overtime from foreign influences. Incidentally the word Albannach (meaning ‘Scottish’) related to Alba - which is the old Picto-era name of Scotland in that language, and relates directly to the oldest and most ancient name of the island of Great Britain itself - ‘Albion’. The national name of 'Scottish' doesn't translate into 'Irish', and Scotti is merely the Latinised form of Scottish, which applied to Scotland and for a time Northern Ulster - or what is now called Northern Ireland. The word 'Hiberni' is the Latinised form of 'Irish' and 'Hibernia' is the Latinised form of 'Ireland'. Latin speakers saw Ireland initially as just a small British offshore Isle, akin to the Isle of Man (which also used to be a part of the Kingdom of Scotland prior to the Kingdom of Great Britain (1707 - 1801), this is because of the oldest ever and first printed map of Ireland by Claudius Ptolemny the Greek geographer who published this after 140 AD after examining Ireland in meticulous detail and clearly it has the word 'Brit' in the northerly portion of the map. Brian Boru was a Scotti, not a Hiberni, so I would agree on that being a title he was once proclaimed as, however he was only later retrospectively claimed to be 'Irish', long after 1542 when Ireland was officially formed as a legitimate nation state for the first time. So while he would arguably constitute as Irish today, the problem with that is that he wasn't actually Hiberni in his time (the historic Irish), so he did not identify with it and would therefore not identify himself with the name of Irish, and that's what Irish ultimately means - it's just the Anglicised form of 'Hiberni' - which first started to be used only after Pope Leo X united the whole island under the name of Irish and Ireland regardless of whether they were Hiberni or not, and told the Scots in Ulster they were lying when they said they were Scots and their nation was Scotia, and he accused them of entering a fraudulent claim. so the Scots minority of N. Hibernia became 'Irishised' in later generations, while the Scots of Scotland were never Irish and retain their ancient national identity to this day. What this resultantly means is that the Scotti settlers of the North and the Anglo settlers of the South were then also considered 'Irish' from that point onward when historically they were not Hiberni (actual original Irish), the Anglo were allied with the Hiberni against the Scotti settlers of North Ulster and the Scottish from Scotland. Even Maewyn Succat of Conchessa and Calpurnius notes the distinction between the Scotti (Scots) and the Hiberni (Irish) in his Epistle to the cheiftain - Corroticus, where he describes the Hiberni/Irish as the 'populi' - the populous of the land, the commoners. And the Scotti as the 'nobilis' - the noble classes, the minority on the land. How the Latin speaking Romans came into contact with the term would be via the native British appellation of the term 'Y-Scot' preserved in what later came to be called 'old Welsh', in reference to the northern kingdom, from which the Latin speaking Romans later Latinised it as 'Scotti', much like the other term 'Pict' which was first found in a written letter to Tacitus by Eumenius in the year 297 in reference to the pre-Christianised of Scotland that would later collectively come to be known as the Scots, which much further back in the mists of time at that point would be from the same Scyt word (hence the term 'Y-Scot').
@Crankgorilla A "Scottsman"? Scotsman. And no, no-one would "hiss at you and threaten to kill you". Why would they? It's a well known fact of Scottish history, albeit a monumental failure, but every country must face it's past.
@@haolihfaioefh I wouldn't rely on a couple of hours a week over a couple of years to cover the intricacies of World history - particularly if your history teacher was anything like mine.
I think it would be cool to see one of these about the Republic of West Florida (1810) and the Republic of East Florida (1812) neither lasted a year before being annexed by the US but it’s local and has some cool history
aye and that needs taught as well as the trade embargo ..basically if England wasn't at war with us , threatening war with us , then they were at trade war with us ..
Captain Kidd was sailing home to New York (after which he was arrested and charged with murder) and considered "dropping in" on the Scots at Darien. Read... "Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback
Despite how terrible a disaster it was, there's been a long standing joke in my household about us clever Scots going to colonise hot, humid Panama with nothing but wigs and blankets. Didn't know about the fight with the Spanish though. Great video!
Read my book..."Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback. If you don't want to risk the money, give me your email addy, and I'll send it to you. SO TIRED of hearing the Anglisized version of this bullshit story.
please do a video on more history of the relationship between the two nations leading up to the present day and the independence movements. @Geographics
I am a student of history myself and have studied Latin American history in some detail yet I had never heard of the Darian Venture. This was a very interesting and informative video. Thanks as always. I love all of your channels.
So the king ordered his colonies to not trade with his colonies. Personal unions get weird when they are constitutional monarchies. Like the time Queen Elizabeth II invaded Queen Elizabeth II's territory, much to Queen Elizabeth II's dissaproval.
@@TheeEnglishKnightPrecisely. As usual, the Scots get a free pass and get off 'Scot free' for all their vast imperial ambitions that impacted the world far beyond recognition since.
I love your videos Simon and it's amazing how many channels you have to tell great stories in pretty much anything from history to geography and others
It is not actually true that Scotland was bankrupted by the failure of the colony. Some individuals were bankrupted by its failure, but that is not the whole nation.
This is true, it was a privately funded venture. It allowed England to bribe the Scots Nobel's that lost money investing in the scheme, bribe them to sign up to the Union.
One big point if disagreement! Scotland wasn't bankrupt, but had lost one third of it's wealth, or I should say the wealth of landowners who invested and we were still more than capable of being independent.
Scotland had a national debt of £20k where England had a national debt of £20mill at the time, yet the narrative is that England saved Scotland with Union.
Dressing for dinner... lol. I'll eat my dinner while wearing boxers, and nobody will stop me. Dressing up in uncomfortable, restrictive clothing, for the sole purpose of trying to impress staunch, stuffy, pompous, conceited individuals who dress similarly just ain't my cup of raw ground meat, thanks all the same.
Most libraries have a copy of the book "The Rising Sun," which is the best of only three books about the Darien Adventure. If you though this presentation was good, you should read the story. It is a fabulous story. The Act of Union, by the way, supplemented the red cross of St. George with the blue cross of St. Andrew. And hardly anybody knows why the flag is red, white and blue.
In this video the east india company, is being used as the scapegoat. The English pulled out of the share issue funding a third the mission, at the last moment, leaving them financially strapped. The deficit in funding had to be raised by the savings of Scots, many of whom put all of their life's savings into the venture. The reason for the failure was that the England stopped the colonies from meeting their contractual obligations to supply them. , which patterson (ex bank of England Governor) had arranged to be supplied by prior to departure. The Colonies would have had to have been ordered in advance of the mission, as all communication was be sea. So the Scots scuppered by the treacherous English who used this, which near bankrupted scotland as lever to force Scotland into the union. If their trade route had been successful this would have been potentially major competition for trade with the east indies
@@ianwright40 learn from it more like. Whats happening today; The money printing, china bullshit sanctions? Palestine Yemen Iran Africa etc are out of the same play book. Mark Twain is quoted as saying that "history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes". Well its playing quiet at tune at the moment.
grow up Mrs! Plenty of Scots live well south of the border and vice versa, many people in Scotland, even your hero Nocola Sturgeon have English relatives, get over it! It is about time people gave up on nationalism and then we maybe would have a chance of solving global problems, actual real problems that are happening now, not 500 years ago. Scottish people should be ashamed of themselves harping on about the English as if Scotland is the only nation in the world to be colonised, for a start look at Africa and the slave trade and how Scotland benefited from slavery.
@@catscratchfever7540 you are halarious. I was laughing at the comment nothing of what you mentioned did i mention. Also i have english family... on my dads side and my mum got married again to a man from just outside london. He died a few years ago but he fiercely loved us as much as we loved him, and every summer i go down to see my step aunts and cousins. So you may have assumed a bit much. One more clarifying thing to add, many scots dont have a problem with england or the majority of sensible english people, its westminster and the ignorance it shows to the other countries in the union they take issues with, not just scotland but wales and northern ireland too. So i would appreciate it if you recind your comment "grow up Mrs." . Thank you kindly, and many regards to your family.
literally did not make it through the intro before getting three-degrees deep into Wikipedia. thank for schooling this self-proclaimed student of history on just how many more things I can thank Scotland for.
I happen to be related to James Christy, who was apart of this failed expedition. He was from Stirling, Scotland and had left to embark on this expedition from Leith. On the way back to Scotland they stopped in Hackensack, New Jersey, where he then met his soon to be wife and never went back home. He was the first documented Christy in the American colonies.
So, I found Simon and his Dungeonettes via CasCrim about a month ago and have been working my way back through the videos on several channels. I have to say now, there are few things more unsettling than seeing the “short beard” for the first time after watching all the Beard Glory in the newer ones 😂❤
As of Scottish decent, and knowing all the great machines, inventions, discoveries that the Scottish have made. And knowing their appetite for battle and anything martial. I am absolutely astounded that they sailed with virtually no provisions for, or plans for defense. Either at sea, in settling of, or in sustaining a viable defense of the colony. Considering the Scottish way of thinking on such matters it's just not the norm. One could make the argument that Patterson was blinded by the eventual monetary return on his investment, but still a dyed in the wool Scotsman would do everything to protect and defend that investment. Maybe there was other European blood running through him too.
I has been in Darien... I cannot imagine being there without mosquito nets and insect repellent... and rain, lots of rain.. sideways, up sidedown, small drops, large drops, showers,, and them more rain..
Read my book..."Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback. If you don't want to risk the money, give me your email addy, and I'll send it to you. SO TIRED of hearing the Anglisized version of this bullshit story.
I'm Panamanian and Darien is still no man's land. You think you'll conquer the jungle but the jungle conquers you. Nearby Guna Yala (where the Guna natives live) is a beautiful archipielago. That is paradise.
This is super interesting. On paper, this sounds like a really good idea. With that being said....the google search that brought me to this video was "what is the most dangerous jungle in the world"--->Darien Gap. Hmmm...
I´ve just returned from a visit to Panama and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Scottish colony has not been totally forgotten. There is a place called Puerto Escoces and a Bay of Caledonia. A district in Panama City is called Calidonia and there is a panel about the colony - Escocia en el Darien - in the Panama Canal museum in the old city.
Also the southern half of British Columbia was originally called New Caledonia (1849) as well as there being the province of Nova Scotia (New Scotland), both of which are in Canada on opposing coasts.
OH SO WRONG!!!! There's so much more to this story than the narrator told. I spent many years investigating and writing the book; "Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback.. The first expedition escaped to New York, re-equipped and returned when they realised a second fleet had sailed. Together they fought at Toubacanti, then retired in disarray after being blockaded by the Spanish. The survivors sailed again to the USA, their descendants would be US presidents and senators. This is a story of courage, bravery and determination... and should be told properly.
That's a shame. I'll admit I'm American, but I'd be just as interested in hearing about a similar place elsewhere - Germany, South Africa, Russia, China... anywhere.
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Holy balls, how many channels can one man read aloud for?
Allegedly 😀
@@Lufefe 😃😃😃
Scotland is a colony of London Westminster Whitehall England 🇬🇧 full stop .
The Russian colonies in Alaska would make for a good episode. I liked reading about them
let's just sell our own people...russia at it's finest
@@thedarkdragon1437 Oh, wow, must be hard going out of your way to hate an entire nation.
@@hamarbiljungskile8953 not rly that hard to not like the whole humanity
Yes ! I thought I was the only one. Try the rabbit hole of Eskimos visiting Scotland.
Cuz those were real pivotal to history.
I live here in Panama. And Darien is probably one of the most beautiful, green, warm and mysterious places I have visited. You certainly know how to tell a story. Thank you.
You're lucky. I get sick of the heat and bugs in Florida, I could only imagine how intense it is in Panama.
Yeah well they missed out.
If Scotland was successful just think of the chip shops.
Starvation, disease, and the inability to stay on good terms with the natives doomed European colonies in the new world from Massachusets in the North down to Argentina in the South.
isnt the Darien Gap full of cartels and extremely dangerous, or is this part of a bigger area called Darien?
@@ce1834 Hi. Darien is huge. It is one area. It is jungle, islands, beautiful ocean. Every where you go in Darien is different. There are very poor areas, with the displaced from the war in Colombia, who traveled very dangerous jungle to get there. But the area where they settled is breathe taking. I traveled for five years there to teach. It is a complicated area. With very interesting indegenous folks, lovely people, and very proud settlers. We are fighting so they never open the gap because it would ruin the ecosystem.
"Alfred, pack the wigs!"
-"Which ones sir?"
-"All of them, for Christ sake!"
Yes, it was widely known that one couldn't go to Central America without their wigs.
Probally the only trade goods produced in scootland
@@RagingDong You lookin ' for trouble ? Well you've come to the right place,. Unless you want to misbelieve that crap you just posted. You can't have a whisky tonight for New Year if you won't take it back.. In fact next time you need antibiotics you won't get any, as the Scot who invented them won't have done so in your eyes. No Penicillin either. You can say goodbye to your Wi fi and anything you have which connects you to those you would castigate. Those people are too glorious to have to come across your Criminal Crap.
@@corryjookit7818 Sorry, mustve hit a bit of a nerve there.
I know fully well how much has been contributed by scots, im cornish so i am fond of celts.
I was just taking the piss.
@@corryjookit7818 Irish whiskey > scottish whiskey
>The ship sailed 500 miles, and then 500 miles, and so on
why you cheeky
It's a reference to a song by The Proclaimers from their album 'Sunshine on Leith' which is also referenced a few seconds earlier.
@@Dave_Sisson yeah I know
caught that immediately, chuckled a bit
He made a mistake by saying landfall instead of saying something like going ashore.
@@Dave_Sisson One wonders if you are aware of the term cheeky and how it is used.
''Darien will be the door of the seas, the key of the Universe''
I see that overselling your venture and generating unreasonable levels of hype about it is not the invention of the 21st century tech bros
Not at all.
@@geographicstravel You think ?
In all fairness, the Darien Gap is, to this day, has not been tamed by man. Its the only reason there is not a trans-america high way, and its not from a lack of effort.
Damn.
Damn
It may be of interest to you, Google Land Rover Trans Americas Expedition. Soon after the Range Rover was launched in 1970
two of them covered the entire 18,000 miles in 1971 from Anchorage to Terra Del Fuego and by far the biggest obstacle was the Darien Gap. The expedition took six months in which the 250 mile Darian Gap took around 100 days in itself!
IIRC to date, these are the only two cars in the world to have completed that journey. They are still around, one at the Gaydon Heritage museum in Warwickshire and the other is in the Dunsfold Collection.
Too many factors that disallows man to alter the environment...Jaguars and snakes really don’t help neither
It is virtually impossible to obtain permission to visit the bay. I tried for a year to sponsor a research and mapping expedition.
As Terry Pratchett put it: "...the ... Scots, locked throughout history in a long, drawn-out battle with their arch-enemies the Scots..."
The opinion of an pair of idiots counts for nothin. Ya pair o Morris dancin BawBags. We will have the last laugh on the Germanic Englanders conquered by a mere 9000 Normans. GIRUPY
@@KeithWilliamMacHendry i doubt the English are intimidated by people who think wearing a dress is manly lol
Slim Kim I gurantee you whoever your ancestors were they once wore dresses
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and Scots. Or Welshmen and Scots. Or Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots they ruined Scotland!
@@tonyplaysthemambo yes, you certainly are a contentious bunch
Thanks for this fascinating story Simon. It's hard to imagine life without instant communication and motorised travel. Even harder would be going to work every day, feeling like shite, covered in boils, and a crazy fear of the supernatural.
8:52 The Unicorn isn't just *any* mythical beast, it's the National Animal of Scotland...
Really? Because UKIP stole it !! Isn't the unicorn the national symbol of Brexit?
@@outlawJosieFox No the symbol for Brexit is almost identical to the Union Jack, but it's on fire.
@@outlawJosieFox UKIP isn't even an official party anymore so whatever symbol they had I'd now meaningless
I thought the _Haggis_ was Scotland's National Animal...😉
Just last year my internet startup was thwarted by Spaniards armed to the teeth.
Can everybody stop flapping about this fish argument please. It is a complete red herring.
B L You are right, it is sole-crushing.
The Scots should have known their Plaice, but we had to leave them to Mullet over... Wee Scampis...!
Now now, don't make a _splash._ 😊
Never really payed attention to history in school, well didnt pay attention to much of anything in school, but now here I am binge watching these videos. Just completely fascinated by history. My new found fondness for learning is shocking to me, and how knowledgeable most of the people in the comments are as well is amazing. Maybe the world isnt as rotten and doomed as I thought. All of you rock!!! Thank you!!!!!
I love that your channel covers stuff I haven't seen on like Wendover or Lemmino. Just really cool stuff you're covering, I really like the work being done here. Thanks
Absolutely brilliant. I'm Scottish and had no idea. Thank you.
It's not massively surprising that a bunch of Scots didn't fair well in the equatorial jungle, we're used to our rain being cold
Edited: Dear lord, people, it was a joke!
Aye
@@Meeckle 😂😂😂
In retrospect, this makes perfect sense. XD We cannae handle hot places!
@@haolihfaioefh Then ya best not be a sinner or you're goin to hell.!!!
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@nil by mouth I considered adding that :)
"Pistols are necessary if you need to swash and buckle." HAHAHAHAHA!!🤣😂🤣
Nice touch to quote Burns at the end. :)
Would you consider doing a sequel to this video? The French attempted to colonise Panama about 200 years after the Scots, with pretty much the same results.
That does not suit the current political argument that the msm and same old same old cunts are promoting.
Can't even be bothered watching the rest of this duffers video, and pretty sure he never mentions the actual fact the King James was the power who made the English investors withdraw their money from the venture, also does he mention the English navy standing by when the Spanish attacked the Scots settlers?
@@pauls3204 Which part of the meaning of "independence" you're missing here?.
Scotland wanted to act as an independent nation, and assert that status. Which was perfectly legitimate. But as independent sovereigns of your own nation and state you should also be independent protectors of your interests. If you're claiming to the four winds how independent you are but then you expect a foreign country to come and protect you when you're in trouble, or to expect no consequences when you launch ventures that will damage another nation's economic interests to favor yours, yet you expect that nation to do nothing to protect itself or even go to war with a third power you've managed to piss off on your own, then what you want isn't independence to begin with. You want the benefits of being independent, but taking none of the responsabilities that come from the status you want to attain.
Genius, you. But things don't work that way.
Namely, Darien was a SCOTTISH colony founded by a SCOTTISH enterprise to favor SCOTTISH independence from England by establishing a business that would heavily damage a BRITISH economic venture (that of the EIC).
Then why on earth are you complaining that the ENGLISH banned their own population from investing in a venture that would damage english economic interests, that the ENGLISH boykotted the enterprise whenever their could, or that ENGLISH armed assets didn't bust ass to go to a war against a foreign power to protect something that wasn't ENGLISH to begin with, and that actually was founded to hurt english economic interests to begin with?.
Or is that independence only works when it's favorable to you, but you don't want to deal with the obvious consequences and demands that come attached to it?. Like dealing with your own damned problems without expecting someone you say is foreign to come and help you, just because you want/need them to, even when it actually doing so would be against their own interests as an (also independent) nation?.
You want to live as an independent country, with your own rules, reach and influence, self-government,etc. All of that is a legitimate wish, I don't have anything against that. But then stop asking for help from the nation you claim to be independent from whenever the going gets rough. And stop complaining when you get none of that. Simple, huh?.
You want independence, then want it with all consequences, which means your people and nation covers for your own enterprises and not expecting "daddy england" to come and help you out of nowhere, for no good reason and in fact against their own interests.
And this is a spaniard talking, I'm not english, I don't have any special liking towards them nor I have any special animosity against the scots (in fact if anything I have a deep sympathy for you given how fucked you've been by the whole brexit stupidity when the scots didn't want it at all). But that doesn't mean I don't get completely sick with arguments like this: if you want something, then accept the whole consequences and responsabilities of attaining whatever you want. Otherwise, stop pushing for it, FFS.
I assume you're referring Delessep's misadventure to build the canal
@@pauls3204 Actually he does mention that King James had English citizens divest and that his order prevented the first group of colonists from obtaining more supplies.
@@pauls3204 someone's still butthurt over the whole ordeal 300 years later.
Paradise to me does not involve sweating in a bug and poison infested jungle. I’ll stay on the northern half of the globe thank you very much
Same.
Panama is about 1000km above the equator, so still northern hemisphere...
@Mark Thomas Its a great idea to let venomous snakes and insects crawl all over you. Its pretty easy to make a raised bed.
@Mark Thomas that sounds like an absolutely horrible experience. I feel pretty safe knocking it lol
Mark Thomas what type of machete? I have a good collection of axes but no machetes and I’d love a new project. I appreciate all the info btw
So interesting! I love your videos, and I really appreciate you putting subtitles.
As an extra fact, nowadays the Darien hasn’t become any kinder to most of companies. Its dense forest is so unforgiving that the pan American highway had to be split in two as it was not possible to build through the jungle. The only businesses that currently operate in that area are drug cartels and sort of.
Well I would sail 500 miles and I would sail 500 more
Nice nod to the Proclaimers song! "When I wake up..."
I am from Panama and didn’t know all this, thank you for sharing.
By the way I love Scotland, being so many times and always surprises me.
0:28 It actually wasn't their only attempt, as they colonised Nova Scotia.
The French colonized Acadia and the English conquered it. Lots of Scottish people moved there yes, but the Kingdom of Scotland never controlled it.
@@lennox285679 Actually they did for a short time before being pushed out by the English.
That wasn’t colonisation that was the highland clearances. Very different....
Cameron Steele the Scottish government itself never had any internationally recognized control of the province. Official control went from the French flag to the British flag.
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...which if course has a more normal climate.....wet, cold....
1:00 - Chapter 1 - The darien & its potential
2:55 - Chapter 2 - A nation in need of an idea
6:10 - Chapter 3 - Paterson's plan
10:25 - Chapter 4 - The 1st expedition
13:55 - Chapter 5 - The 2nd expedition
16:55 - Chapter 6 - Aftermath (the act of union)
Well now that’s a piece of history the average US student never heard. How England & Scotland tied the knot.
England and Scotland are that couple sitting at a table down the pub ignoring each other, and when they get home they wake up the neighbours with a ding dong row.
There's a great rendition of Robert Burns' Parcel o' Rogues poem (from the end of the video) by The Corries. You can find it here on RUclips!
to be fair to them - having the foresight for the precursor to the actual panama canal (something they wouldn't have deemed possible) does seem like a pretty smart idea on the face of it all... but theres always logistics..
Imagine if they had succeeded! Imagine a Panama crossing two hundred years earlier, and Scotland controlling the great bottleneck of the world, charging tolls at the crossroads between Europe and the New World! What a shocking new world that would have been!
Yeah, Panama!! 🇵🇦🇵🇦 Even now days the Darien province is known as El tapón, and it's very hard to cross
Samantha Claus If it wasn’t it would be called El Tampon!
Sorry, I had to say it 🤷🏻♀️ Thank you for the education! Hope you are having a lovely day/night 🇺🇸🧡🇵🇦
I remember hearing that the Darien Gap had a 50 mile/km(?) wide section with no proper paved roads, which prevents people from being able to drive between North America and South America.
@@thepezfeo That and also the Drug cartels in the area and still some Farc members
El tampón... (Shouldn't it be _La tampón?_ ) LOL!
CrazyBear65 Yeah, sorry, I was full of pain meds that night. Forgot I wrote that 🤣
This is an interesting type of video as it more like the telling of a historical story than the detailed history of a place which I've long wanted to see from this channel and although it may not be a well known story that's irrelevant as learning about a new historical figure/place is always a joy and this video is not exception. Now this doesn't fit the format of "geographics" per say but I'm excited to see more videos of historical stories tied to locations next perhaps you could do Jamestown or the winter that George Washington spent at valley forge or something like that maybe even moorish occupied Spain whatever you decide to make I'll look forward to it and thank you for another wonderful video
I’d say that it’s pretty specific to the Darien... but that’s just me :)
I did a semester of research on this in college, looking closely at Wafer's maps. This video is really well done and nails the big impact: the loss of Scotland's hope of independence
Thanks for this, I'd to explain to fellow Scots that this led to the union between Scotland 🏴 and England and in all fairness we did go on to create the empire that the sun never set on although we never see the sun here for it always rains
True, if Darien was a success it's unlikely North America would have so many pockets of Scots migrants.
id also like to explain to my fellow Scots that Scotland wasn't actually bankrupt they lost 160k, England at the time was in 18m debt, only some of their rich nobles lost money, who were later bribed with lands in the Caribbean and money paid towards them if they voted in favour of the union, also an entire party was paid by England to vote in favour of it, lets not forget they station soldiers in ulster and the English border with threats of invasion if it wasn't accepted. now the scheme itself why was the architect of this scheme supporter of the king who made sure it failed. William was meant to be king of Scotland also but used the navigation act to stop Scottish trading with colonies, and convinced Dutch and Portuguese not to help either? then when Scotland was on its knees they introduced the alien act a few years later which treated all Scottish lands as foreigners in England which lead to confiscations and a trade embargo which accounted for half of Scottish trade at the time. so no we were part of the colonial empire of England built they just used the term "British" to make it look like we are all same people. we are not. yes some like all colonised nations accepted it but it wasn't wanted in Scotland at all their was marshal law imposed due to numerous riots all over Scotland because of it. the ones who didn't accept the union had their lands stripped and sent to the colonies as prisoners.
TLDR: the union was a lie it was forced and it was never wanted, now Scotland Wales and Ireland are last bastions of English colonialism. in 10 years time the union wont exist. thank god
@@chosenundead6376Give your Irish plastic Paddy slave mentality a rest, as beautiful as it is, you dont want to wear it out. Save it for when you beg on all fours and bark.
Scotland is not Ireland, never was like Ireland and has nothing in common with Ireland, Scotland was every bit an ambitiously imperial nation, arguably even more so than England, and it is not and never was a colony. Great Britain came to be only because the Kingdom of England (with the Principality of Wales) entered into a union with the Kingdom of Scotland which then led to the Kingdom of Great Britain, which, was after a Scottish crown take over 104 years earlier.
Oh wow!!!! I LOVE 😍 History... And LOVE this channel!!! 😁 👏🏻
I'm being extremely patient waiting on the Potala Palace video. But the whole "nobody ever colonized the new world with a wrinkly shirt" made the wait a bit better.
I appreciated the brief foray into the Scottish side of the U.K. I would love to hear more of the Scottish and Irish geography and history!
English and Scottish history are intermixed, Irish and Scottish history less so
@@Damo2690 lol what. The Scots came from Ireland! (Or possibly the Irish may have come from Scotland temporarily in ancient times. Plus Ulster and Ulster Scots too.
@@reddyshreddy5050Are you for real? Scots are not and never were Irish. The word 'Gaelic' was not widely used prior to the 16th century, prior to that it's definition used to be synonymous with the word 'Scottis', so not Irish. What you call Scots-Gaidhlig is actually properly called 'Albannach' in its own tongue, which means Scottish, Albannach relates to Alba (Scotland), which itself relates to the island of Great Britain's oldest and most ancient name - 'Albion'.
Irish-Gaeilge is 'Eirennach' (Irish) in its own language, Eirennach is not as mutually intelligible with Albannach as some people pretend it is, it has no more similarity than focussed braid Scots does with standard English, the reason why is because Albannach is far more the conservative language of the two - having retained most of its ancient forms and changed very little over time, whereas Eirennach (Irish) has evolved and changed a lot over the past thousand years or so.
Either way though, the word 'Gael' has more to do with France than either Scotland or Ireland, despite what some writers believe, it does relate etymologically to 'Gaul' - which was the name of proto-France during the Pax Romana.
As does the Greco form 'Galatia'.
Even the 'Gall' part of the word means 'foreign'.
In fact it was the Roman - Tacitus himself who believed that the southern Britons (pre-Anglo-Saxon, proto-English in all but name) were partly related to the Gauls - it was from this view of his that modern historians came up with the idea that Britons started as a wave of Celts migrating from Gaul. Even though the word Gaul itself comes from Weidhala (proto Indo-European for 'forest people').
While the Angles only comprised about 3% to 4% of what is today South-East Scotland and this was due to that part of the land being for a brief period of history a part of the old British kingdom of Northumberland. However the Scottish capital was not Edinburgh at this time (it was Scone), so it would still be inaccurate technically to include them as part of the Scottish population of that era.
It would be like saying that Newcastle used to be Scoto-Pict because it was colonised by the Scots and held to ransom once after the battle of Newburn, for a time until England paid to have it returned because it was an important source of coal for the English treasury at that time.
Or to a lesser extent, claiming that Doncaster is Scottish (which technically still has more credibility) because it is still subject to the near 900 year old Treaty of Durham between David I of Scots and Stephen of England and was never formally handed back to England by the Kingdom of Scotland prior to the 1707 Act of Union - which led to the Kingdom of Great Britain.
Plus, over 87% of all the place names in modern Scotland are still derived from Albannach, this would not have been likely if Scotland has changed too much overtime from foreign influences.
Incidentally the word Albannach (meaning ‘Scottish’) related to Alba - which is the old Picto-era name of Scotland in that language, and relates directly to the oldest and most ancient name of the island of Great Britain itself - ‘Albion’.
The national name of 'Scottish' doesn't translate into 'Irish', and Scotti is merely the Latinised form of Scottish, which applied to Scotland and for a time Northern Ulster - or what is now called Northern Ireland.
The word 'Hiberni' is the Latinised form of 'Irish' and 'Hibernia' is the Latinised form of 'Ireland'.
Latin speakers saw Ireland initially as just a small British offshore Isle, akin to the Isle of Man (which also used to be a part of the Kingdom of Scotland prior to the Kingdom of Great Britain (1707 - 1801), this is because of the oldest ever and first printed map of Ireland by Claudius Ptolemny the Greek geographer who published this after 140 AD after examining Ireland in meticulous detail and clearly it has the word 'Brit' in the northerly portion of the map.
Brian Boru was a Scotti, not a Hiberni, so I would agree on that being a title he was once proclaimed as, however he was only later retrospectively claimed to be 'Irish', long after 1542 when Ireland was officially formed as a legitimate nation state for the first time.
So while he would arguably constitute as Irish today, the problem with that is that he wasn't actually Hiberni in his time (the historic Irish), so he did not identify with it and would therefore not identify himself with the name of Irish, and that's what Irish ultimately means - it's just the Anglicised form of 'Hiberni' - which first started to be used only after Pope Leo X united the whole island under the name of Irish and Ireland regardless of whether they were Hiberni or not, and told the Scots in Ulster they were lying when they said they were Scots and their nation was Scotia, and he accused them of entering a fraudulent claim. so the Scots minority of N. Hibernia became 'Irishised' in later generations, while the Scots of Scotland were never Irish and retain their ancient national identity to this day.
What this resultantly means is that the Scotti settlers of the North and the Anglo settlers of the South were then also considered 'Irish' from that point onward when historically they were not Hiberni (actual original Irish), the Anglo were allied with the Hiberni against the Scotti settlers of North Ulster and the Scottish from Scotland.
Even Maewyn Succat of Conchessa and Calpurnius notes the distinction between the Scotti (Scots) and the Hiberni (Irish) in his Epistle to the cheiftain - Corroticus, where he describes the Hiberni/Irish as the 'populi' - the populous of the land, the commoners. And the Scotti as the 'nobilis' - the noble classes, the minority on the land. How the Latin speaking Romans came into contact with the term would be via the native British appellation of the term 'Y-Scot' preserved in what later came to be called 'old Welsh', in reference to the northern kingdom, from which the Latin speaking Romans later Latinised it as 'Scotti', much like the other term 'Pict' which was first found in a written letter to Tacitus by Eumenius in the year 297 in reference to the pre-Christianised of Scotland that would later collectively come to be known as the Scots, which much further back in the mists of time at that point would be from the same Scyt word (hence the term 'Y-Scot').
I can't believe that I have never heard of this critical tipping point in the formation of my nation before!
Same here- what the fuck was my history teacher even doing???
Its common for countries to not teach about their own failures. Japan is definitely one of them.
I wonder why that might be? ;-)
@Crankgorilla A "Scottsman"?
Scotsman.
And no, no-one would "hiss at you and threaten to kill you".
Why would they?
It's a well known fact of Scottish history, albeit a monumental failure, but every country must face it's past.
@@haolihfaioefh I wouldn't rely on a couple of hours a week over a couple of years to cover the intricacies of World history - particularly if your history teacher was anything like mine.
Really good episode, thankyou Simon.
Thanks :)
I think it would be cool to see one of these about the Republic of West Florida (1810) and the Republic of East Florida (1812) neither lasted a year before being annexed by the US but it’s local and has some cool history
The company didn’t quite end there. You missed the part where they tried again and traded in slaves and got in with pirates.
The sequel
aye and that needs taught as well as the trade embargo ..basically if England wasn't at war with us , threatening war with us , then they were at trade war with us ..
Captain Kidd was sailing home to New York (after which he was arrested and charged with murder) and considered "dropping in" on the Scots at Darien. Read... "Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback
Despite how terrible a disaster it was, there's been a long standing joke in my household about us clever Scots going to colonise hot, humid Panama with nothing but wigs and blankets.
Didn't know about the fight with the Spanish though. Great video!
Read my book..."Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback. If you don't want to risk the money, give me your email addy, and I'll send it to you. SO TIRED of hearing the Anglisized version of this bullshit story.
@@IanHallWrites does the auorator in the video get it wrong then too?
Nice concise delivery
Thanks!
“The ship sailed 500 miles and then they sailed 500 more”. I see what you did there. Lmfao
please do a video on more history of the relationship between the two nations leading up to the present day and the independence movements. @Geographics
Always wanted to learn more about this expedition!
but is anyone else kinda freaking out that they called a Dolphin a fish?
idk maybe just me haha
I am. Everyone knows that Dolphins are mammals (I think).
Technically, there are two creatures both called dolphins, one of which is a fish. The intelligent ones, however, are marine mammals.
It was the 1600s. Everything in the water was a fish.
@@resileaf9501 agreed too many people judge the past history with modern standards.
Thats what they want you to think... You've got to watch out for them. And the mice.
I am a student of history myself and have studied Latin American history in some detail yet I had never heard of the Darian Venture. This was a very interesting and informative video. Thanks as always. I love all of your channels.
How about a video on The Holy Island of Lindisfarne?
Phenomenal work troops, as always! 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻
The Smoothing Iron was not invented to smooth clothes but to kill the eggs of parasites in the clothes.
So the king ordered his colonies to not trade with his colonies. Personal unions get weird when they are constitutional monarchies. Like the time Queen Elizabeth II invaded Queen Elizabeth II's territory, much to Queen Elizabeth II's dissaproval.
Every time, the more I learn about Scotland and the Scots, the more I like them!
so when scottish people colonise a country it’s good, but when english people do it it’s bad?
@@TheeEnglishKnightPrecisely.
As usual, the Scots get a free pass and get off 'Scot free' for all their vast imperial ambitions that impacted the world far beyond recognition since.
Captain Cook for Biographics!
His Dad was a Scot.
I love your videos Simon and it's amazing how many channels you have to tell great stories in pretty much anything from history to geography and others
It is not actually true that Scotland was bankrupted by the failure of the colony. Some individuals were bankrupted by its failure, but that is not the whole nation.
This is true, it was a privately funded venture. It allowed England to bribe the Scots Nobel's that lost money investing in the scheme, bribe them to sign up to the Union.
Absolutely true, it was privately funded. It led to those private individuals being bribed to agree to the Union with England.
Nice, subtle Proclaimers reference. I approve!
Aha. 2 AM and just the video that I was looking for.
You must be lonely.
That wasn't an insult, I just hear that lyric everytime someone says it is "_ am"
Very interesting. Greater well done job about story and good looking editing cuts. Hope to see more from You. Im glad to see it further.
One big point if disagreement! Scotland wasn't bankrupt, but had lost one third of it's wealth, or I should say the wealth of landowners who invested and we were still more than capable of being independent.
FunkyKangaroo so were the Germanic states but they choose to unify..
@@roosterbooster6238 yes, that may be so, bu5 Scotland wasn't bankrupt.
Scotland had a national debt of £20k where England had a national debt of £20mill at the time, yet the narrative is that England saved Scotland with Union.
Rest in peace to those that passed away.
Just because you're in the jungle, doesn't mean you get out of dressing for dinner lol
Dressing for dinner... lol. I'll eat my dinner while wearing boxers, and nobody will stop me. Dressing up in uncomfortable, restrictive clothing, for the sole purpose of trying to impress staunch, stuffy, pompous, conceited individuals who dress similarly just ain't my cup of raw ground meat, thanks all the same.
Most libraries have a copy of the book "The Rising Sun," which is the best of only three books about the Darien Adventure. If you though this presentation was good, you should read the story. It is a fabulous story. The Act of Union, by the way, supplemented the red cross of St. George with the blue cross of St. Andrew. And hardly anybody knows why the flag is red, white and blue.
I was going to comment on that book. Great read.
Whats the books author? Ill check it out
Douglas Galbraith (2001)
Hmmm - it might've been wise to send a scouting expedition before jumping in with everything.
Great episode, keep it up !
Thanks :)
In this video the east india company, is being used as the scapegoat. The English pulled out of the share issue funding a third the mission, at the last moment, leaving them financially strapped. The deficit in funding had to be raised by the savings of Scots, many of whom put all of their life's savings into the venture.
The reason for the failure was that the England stopped the colonies from meeting their contractual obligations to supply them. , which patterson (ex bank of England Governor) had arranged to be supplied by prior to departure. The Colonies would have had to have been ordered in advance of the mission, as all communication was be sea. So the Scots scuppered by the treacherous English who used this, which near bankrupted scotland as lever to force Scotland into the union.
If their trade route had been successful this would have been potentially major competition for trade with the east indies
BUT. It wasn't. Live with it.
@@ianwright40 learn from it more like. Whats happening today; The money printing, china bullshit sanctions? Palestine Yemen Iran Africa etc are out of the same play book. Mark Twain is quoted as saying that "history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes". Well its playing quiet at tune at the moment.
I love how William Patterson essentially thought of turning Darien into the Panama Canal, but without the actual Canal part.
"Who do you call when you have an impenetrable jungle to deal with?"
The Scottish, obviously.
Love the cunning Proclaimers references!
Those people were so BRAVE !!. Would i have the sack to ante up , Start swinging , and Prevail ?!?!?
Great vid! Subscribed after watching. Excellent Content. Thanks!
*cough* ''Rocky relationship with their southern neighbors...'' ........ aye that would perhaps be a kind way to put it. LOL
grow up Mrs! Plenty of Scots live well south of the border and vice versa, many people in Scotland, even your hero Nocola Sturgeon have English relatives, get over it! It is about time people gave up on nationalism and then we maybe would have a chance of solving global problems, actual real problems that are happening now, not 500 years ago. Scottish people should be ashamed of themselves harping on about the English as if Scotland is the only nation in the world to be colonised, for a start look at Africa and the slave trade and how Scotland benefited from slavery.
@@catscratchfever7540 you are halarious. I was laughing at the comment nothing of what you mentioned did i mention. Also i have english family... on my dads side and my mum got married again to a man from just outside london. He died a few years ago but he fiercely loved us as much as we loved him, and every summer i go down to see my step aunts and cousins. So you may have assumed a bit much. One more clarifying thing to add, many scots dont have a problem with england or the majority of sensible english people, its westminster and the ignorance it shows to the other countries in the union they take issues with, not just scotland but wales and northern ireland too. So i would appreciate it if you recind your comment "grow up Mrs." . Thank you kindly, and many regards to your family.
Cmon Cathy your imagining things that weren't written or even inferred as far as I can see. Relax
@@catscratchfever7540 Stop harping on about the Scots, Cathy. It's creepy
Lauren's Corner you gave us the stones the rolling ones lol
literally did not make it through the intro before getting three-degrees deep into
Wikipedia. thank for schooling this self-proclaimed student of history on just how many more things I can thank Scotland for.
I happen to be related to James Christy, who was apart of this failed expedition. He was from Stirling, Scotland and had left to embark on this expedition from Leith. On the way back to Scotland they stopped in Hackensack, New Jersey, where he then met his soon to be wife and never went back home. He was the first documented Christy in the American colonies.
Dude, just say you're an ethnic Yank, as that's what you are.
Simples..
So, I found Simon and his Dungeonettes via CasCrim about a month ago and have been working my way back through the videos on several channels. I have to say now, there are few things more unsettling than seeing the “short beard” for the first time after watching all the Beard Glory in the newer ones 😂❤
As of Scottish decent, and knowing all the great machines, inventions, discoveries that the Scottish have made. And knowing their appetite for battle and anything martial. I am absolutely astounded that they sailed with virtually no provisions for, or plans for defense. Either at sea, in settling of, or in sustaining a viable defense of the colony. Considering the Scottish way of thinking on such matters it's just not the norm. One could make the argument that Patterson was blinded by the eventual monetary return on his investment, but still a dyed in the wool Scotsman would do everything to protect and defend that investment. Maybe there was other European blood running through him too.
😂 Way to sound like a goofy American!!
Dude, you are of 'Yank blood'.
The Unicorn is also Scotland's nation animal. TRUE FACTS.
ETA: That 500 Miles reference tho.
When I thought I couldn't like anything more than Biographics. Channel is pure gold.
I has been in Darien... I cannot imagine being there without mosquito nets and insect repellent... and rain, lots of rain.. sideways, up sidedown, small drops, large drops, showers,, and them more rain..
Given Scottish weather, and midges, the only difference would be the heat.
11:40 image of Fort St Andrew is actually portobello.
Correct. Ft. St. Andrew was an earthwork, and there sure wasn't much of it left by the era of photography.
Thank you. Settled an argument.
That Proclaimers reference. I had to stop the video to get my laughter out
I had to leave the room with laughter
Absolutely fascinating video, thank you as always! I had no idea that this was a Thing In History. 😯
Read my book..."Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback. If you don't want to risk the money, give me your email addy, and I'll send it to you. SO TIRED of hearing the Anglisized version of this bullshit story.
I'd buy into this Darien venture. I'd also lose out.
I'm Panamanian and Darien is still no man's land. You think you'll conquer the jungle but the jungle conquers you. Nearby Guna Yala (where the Guna natives live) is a beautiful archipielago. That is paradise.
that was a sad story.
This is super interesting. On paper, this sounds like a really good idea.
With that being said....the google search that brought me to this video was "what is the most dangerous jungle in the world"--->Darien Gap. Hmmm...
Darien did not bankrupt Scotland only a few people who bankrolled the scheme lost money ,Scotland had no debt at the time of union.
I´ve just returned from a visit to Panama and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Scottish colony has not been totally forgotten. There is a place called Puerto Escoces and a Bay of Caledonia. A district in Panama City is called Calidonia and there is a panel about the colony - Escocia en el Darien - in the Panama Canal museum in the old city.
Damn. Europe has been at war since day one
And will be again in a few decades if Eurosceptics get their way.
Always will be. Too many different languages and ideals. Someone always wants to be on top, and someone else thinks it is their turn.
Food for thought , a timely message.
There is a fish which was called dolphin at that time. Now usually Mahi Mahi or Dorado. Very tasty.
Free Mahi Mahi. Free Mahi Mahi.
Really well presented and entertaining video.
Could British history be more complicated?
Thank you .
"500 miles and then 500 more" I love that little smirk while delivering that line!
Proclaimers reference 😂
Fascinating, thank you!
That's quite the little spin you just pulled on the Highland Clearances. I saw what you did there.
sunshine over leith.. Harbour, Well played Simon
Weird to see the north sea with the dutch name on that map near the end, while the brittish sea is just in english.
Also the southern half of British Columbia was originally called New Caledonia (1849) as well as there being the province of Nova Scotia (New Scotland), both of which are in Canada on opposing coasts.
OH SO WRONG!!!! There's so much more to this story than the narrator told. I spent many years investigating and writing the book; "Opportunities: Jamie Leith in Darién", available on Amazon in either Kindle or paperback.. The first expedition escaped to New York, re-equipped and returned when they realised a second fleet had sailed. Together they fought at Toubacanti, then retired in disarray after being blockaded by the Spanish. The survivors sailed again to the USA, their descendants would be US presidents and senators. This is a story of courage, bravery and determination... and should be told properly.
Well said Ian, the principle of setting up a trading colony was sound, the planning bad, however, the Panama Canal is testimony of the original idea.
Ian waiting inpatiently for your video
at last a comment that does not include the usual xenophobic and racist claptrap thanks for posting the information ,
I love this period of history so full of adventure and hardships
If you think it's as cool as some of these, a geographic on the yosemite national park would be cool
No, it wouldn't be.
Why not?
Nobody outside of the US cares
That's a shame. I'll admit I'm American, but I'd be just as interested in hearing about a similar place elsewhere - Germany, South Africa, Russia, China... anywhere.