WTF Research : TB & Genna Play Nidhogg

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  • Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025

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  • @XenfareSpades
    @XenfareSpades 10 лет назад +117

    "Aha! Punched you in the face!"
    -Totalbiscuit adressing his wife

  • @thepain2222
    @thepain2222 9 лет назад +115

    I was also under the preconception that every Englishman had a fencing instructor in addition to a spell and sorcery instructor.

    • @paulmanly1990
      @paulmanly1990 9 лет назад +3

      Robert Williams
      Also a potions master.

    • @thepain2222
      @thepain2222 9 лет назад +2

      Paul Manly With high marks in the Dark Arts.

    • @variousnumber891
      @variousnumber891 9 лет назад +5

      Robert Williams You can't forget the Dedicated 5 weeks Tea drinking or serving should you choose the life of a butler.

    • @thepain2222
      @thepain2222 9 лет назад +1

      Variousnumber Yes, mustn't forget proper etiquette

    • @sugoistalin7809
      @sugoistalin7809 9 лет назад

      Robert Williams Proper etiquette should be a standard all over the world.

  • @Lexyvil
    @Lexyvil 6 лет назад +12

    Watching this is so sad now. :(
    He will be missed.

  • @AusMarkus
    @AusMarkus 11 лет назад +18

    The biggest thing that I took away from this video is that Genna's (apparent) struggle to find reasons to fault the price point for this game is an indication of how difficult critique can be. It's not as simple as saying that you like or don't like something. You often don't know why you have a problem with a product until you learn to recognise your own thought patterns and the intricacies of a games mechanics. Not to mention the fact that you need to understand how your opinion can differ from another persons and how you need to account for that.
    It's really interesting to see a professional critique argue the point with someone who doesn't do this for a living.

  • @GeorgeMonet
    @GeorgeMonet 9 лет назад +24

    I think the story is that these are characters stuck in the underworld forced to fight each other for an eternity (hence why they never really die). When they "win" they get to be eaten by Nidhogg and thus are either reborn or allowed to actually die. So being eaten would be an actual reward because it brings an end to the constant suffering that characterized their life in the underworld.

  • @shabbbsy
    @shabbbsy 11 лет назад +41

    Limited amount of levels, simplistic graphics... Well executed, beautifully made mechanics, tons of replay ability, a great multiplayer experience... I'd say $11 or £7 is definitely worth it.

    • @shabbbsy
      @shabbbsy 2 года назад

      @NoniplierXG after 8 years of contemplating my comment, and playing nidhogg frequently, I can say that I agree with you totally.

    • @shabbbsy
      @shabbbsy 2 года назад

      And the comment about the simplistic graphics? I don't know what sort of smooth brain I was operating on 8 years ago, I think price should be tied to the gameplay and replayability, of which Nidhogg has plenty.

  • @HIRVIism
    @HIRVIism 11 лет назад +112

    I think TB is right with his argument that Steam has made people expect dirt-cheap games. 10 dollars isn't much at all. I could see myself playing this game a lot more than a 60 dollar AAA.

    • @NovaStalker
      @NovaStalker 11 лет назад +8

      that's your problem. you can get ripped off all you like but the rest of us want actual equivalent value.

    • @HIRVIism
      @HIRVIism 11 лет назад +34

      NovaStalker
      How is 10 dollars for hours of entertainment a rip-off? How long will it be before games that cost more than a piece of shit 99 cent iPad game are "too expensive"?

    • @tomc.7243
      @tomc.7243 11 лет назад +12

      HIRVIism Price point is just a subjective matter anyway. I personally agree with Genna's point that 10 or less dollars would have been better

    • @HIRVIism
      @HIRVIism 11 лет назад +13

      Deyerli A
      Of course lower price is better for the consumer. But you gotta think about the dude who made the game. Maybe he wants some money too?

    • @dergons
      @dergons 11 лет назад +27

      NovaStalker
      I bought Tomb Raider for 35€ and 100% it in 15 hours
      I bought Terraria for 15€ and I'm closing in on 100 hours in that game.
      I'm satisfied with both of them but in terms of your "equivalent value" Tomb Raider was a piece of shit game. Much like towerfall I can see people getting really into this for the same reasons. Its fast paced, easy to play and hard to master. 10$ is equivalent to like a pizza or a burger menu, if that's to expensive then god help us cause mankinds priorities are way fucked up.

  • @Xarazel
    @Xarazel 9 лет назад +30

    "see, know youve gotta punch me!"
    *kicks TB in the face*
    *"NO!!"*
    10/10

  • @SlyNinja0321
    @SlyNinja0321 9 лет назад +28

    "Welcome to Toby Turner's entire library." I cried.

  • @PKLuver944
    @PKLuver944 9 лет назад +10

    There doesn't NEED to be more than four bloody levels! Plus, compare 11 sodding bucks to 60. There is still enjoyment in Nidhogg, and a fair amount of replayability. One guy worked on this and he has done a bloody good job.

  • @actualhempknight7372
    @actualhempknight7372 10 лет назад +26

    Genna: "What kind of dumb game is this?" ...
    Just came from watching the "Long live the Queen" videos... What, I don't even, what?!

  • @drake8050
    @drake8050 11 лет назад +12

    I think what it comes down to is TB values the mechanics, which isn’t always some easily identifiable feature one can see with their own eyes, but how a game feels. Meanwhile Genna is impressed by more tangible things such as levels and character selections.

  • @diegobunuel2746
    @diegobunuel2746 11 лет назад +81

    Genna is being totally unfair with the price argument. Its not about stages, its about gameplay mechanics. The mechanics in this game are fantastic. Easy to learn hard to master. just because she isn't good at it or she doesn't like it that much, that doesn't mean its value is awful.

    • @90darkace
      @90darkace 11 лет назад +5

      the stage's a little but not the way she was saying it. $5 would be to low a price, $10-$15 for this game seems fine, it has simple gameplay that can be learned and advanced pretty quickly, fun, interesting level plus local and online. it's made it's value (Grated with ht tb said bout it being delayed so much but still)

    • @diegobunuel2746
      @diegobunuel2746 11 лет назад +2

      Aaron mccarrick Couldn't agree more

    • @diegobunuel2746
      @diegobunuel2746 11 лет назад +6

      ***** But why do stages matter that much? the combat system must be played to understand how fun and complex it is. hours of fun with in local or online multiplayer. totally worth 15$

    • @diegobunuel2746
      @diegobunuel2746 11 лет назад +5

      ***** Oh but I am serious and with friends this game could be hours of fun with friends. And what is it with you and stages? they're just a minor change of scenery for the most part sometimes with a small gimmick.
      Last of all, if its free, why make you go find it and download it. There used to be a thing called updates instead of dlc

    • @PMilk151
      @PMilk151 11 лет назад +6

      Diego Bunuel ANYTHING can be hours of fun if you have friends around. That does not make it fun in and of itself.

  • @RudolphCookie
    @RudolphCookie 9 лет назад +22

    "I don't think this is really commentary, it's just us reacting to a bunch of stuff
    Welcome to Toby Turner's entire library" *genius*

  • @AlaricReviews
    @AlaricReviews 11 лет назад +23

    This debate is another great example of how value is subjective.

  • @gwjones82009
    @gwjones82009 11 лет назад

    we need more of these videos, the TB and genna play series is wonderful to hear you both having so much fun.

  • @Canadian_Metalhead
    @Canadian_Metalhead 8 лет назад +7

    I mean Terarria is the same price. Which game would you rather get? She has a point.

    • @YukonHexsun
      @YukonHexsun 8 лет назад

      The answer is to get both. To be honest, terraria qualifies more as a 60 dollar game than most AAA releases these days. I have gotten so many hours out of Terraria for so little money.

  • @Elmarby
    @Elmarby 11 лет назад +1

    Man, I just love this stuff and recently subscribed for more of it.
    The interaction between the two of them is hilarious. TB being TB and Genna essentially being TB right back at him. :P Genna truly is TBs match, the way she parries his mockery as easily as she does his sword. Almost.

  • @TheBrokensaintvxvx
    @TheBrokensaintvxvx 11 лет назад +5

    I personally like the premise of these research vids. They provide two sides to the argument, and for me that makes this more worthwhile than the wtf vids. Also, its great to hear TB and Genna bicker

  • @jarommadsen
    @jarommadsen 10 лет назад +7

    If you're not the one that bought the game, you're always going to be critical of it if it's not your cup of tea. I heavily avoid telling people the prices of games I've paid for early on because if they're not completely enjoying the game in THAT instance when the price is revealed, they'll always be more likely to hate the game because they don't agree with the pricing. Genna was thoroughly on her way to enjoying the title until the price was revealed. After that her mind was set: she did not like the game. She hadn't yet given the title a chance to get good yet and that's where the beauty comes from Nidhogg; it's the game that lies beneath the surface of the novel entertainment, the split-second decisions you have to make, the huge tree of predictions you have to know to counter your opponent, it's all there, but you have to give it more than a fridging half hour to find it.

    • @rainingcomplete3018
      @rainingcomplete3018 10 лет назад

      But you still should put in the price. That's important to a decision, as people should know if the price is a good deal for the quality.

    • @jarommadsen
      @jarommadsen 10 лет назад +1

      Ray Fanning I think that price should be put in for a full review rather than a first impressions sort of thing. Price put on first impressions can quickly sour the taste if you haven't yet tapped into the real joy of it.

    • @rainingcomplete3018
      @rainingcomplete3018 10 лет назад

      True true.

  • @darkclone85
    @darkclone85 11 лет назад +6

    The second half of the video is a physical metaphor for the verbal fencing TB and Genna were on about the price of the game. With a cool soundtrack too, :D

    • @tintintb1980
      @tintintb1980 11 лет назад

      This is the Soundcloud page of the dude who made the music ;)
      soundcloud.com/daedelus

    • @darkclone85
      @darkclone85 11 лет назад

      Tintin Onacid I wasn't looking for it but thanks for the link, bud!

  • @kintarly
    @kintarly 11 лет назад +40

    "welcome to toby turner's entire library". HA!

    • @MrFoundryguy
      @MrFoundryguy 11 лет назад +11

      It's true though. That's why it's funny.

  • @MadMargaretGaming
    @MadMargaretGaming 11 лет назад +10

    i haven't seen a comment about the princess bride quote,
    I am afraid I lied, i'm not left handed

  • @Zenvalley
    @Zenvalley 11 лет назад +7

    "I dont think this is commentary".
    "Well welcome to Toby Turners entire library.."
    Shots Fired.

  • @Vodhr
    @Vodhr 11 лет назад +3

    Ah, I got to say the mixture of TB and Genna is QUITE entertaining! :D
    I am glad you have come to this point where we are introduced a bit more to Co-operative content between you two.
    (Or in this case - VERSUUUUUUS!!!)
    Ps.
    I am probably late in saying this, but TB... you found yourself one fine lady!
    And you both really seem to mesh very well togheter. :)

  • @TheMrBobcombe
    @TheMrBobcombe 10 лет назад +12

    "Welcome to Toby Turner's entire library"
    #shotsfired

  • @kiteofdark
    @kiteofdark 11 лет назад +16

    Holy shit Genna is the best player who has no idea what she's doing that I've ever seen.

    • @tablefancy7992
      @tablefancy7992 11 лет назад +32

      Or biscuit is the worst player that does know what he is doing.

  • @jeridnorthshot3023
    @jeridnorthshot3023 11 лет назад +18

    6:20, and thats how babies are made.

  • @stillwatrpwnage
    @stillwatrpwnage 10 лет назад +3

    Genna, Long Live the Queen is literally the same game every single time with one single "stage", and is 66% the price of Nidhogg with literally no replayability yet you like it more than this game?

  • @ShanWolf
    @ShanWolf 11 лет назад

    One of the things I appreciate most about this? It allows that sort of "figuring out your thoughts" and polishing your arguments regarding a game. really awesome. thank you Genna for providing some devils advocacy for these games.

  • @untotenvasser4233
    @untotenvasser4233 10 лет назад +28

    Genna:It could get old in 15 min.....
    *passes the **15:00** mark*

  • @ricojes
    @ricojes 11 лет назад +9

    15:30 This, ladies and gents, is cloud gaming. AHA!

  • @Shdinexus
    @Shdinexus 11 лет назад +25

    AHA! THIS VIDEO WAS ENTERTANING!

  • @Bubbatauti
    @Bubbatauti 11 лет назад

    I love TB's content on his channel, but he has am amazing sense of humor that only seems to show when he's interacting with others. That's why I love the content here, and the multiple Terraria series.

  • @Renegade322
    @Renegade322 11 лет назад +20

    I would disagree with Genna on the price point
    personally, and honestly, this game is going to be so cheap when the next sale comes around which is when most people are gonna buy it
    meanwhile, I love the game, and bought it for that 11 bucks

  • @Jake_Eyes
    @Jake_Eyes 11 лет назад +2

    I bet that giant worm and the yeti from Ski Free are bros.

  • @SootShade
    @SootShade 11 лет назад +16

    Ah, the Princess Bride reference.

  • @Rynewulf
    @Rynewulf 11 лет назад +23

    Having just watch TB's WTF Is of this game, it really should be noted that it has amasing single player bot ai. Most games I've ever played don't have great ai, but Nidhogg nails it! Really should be factored in.

    • @Tunmannen
      @Tunmannen 11 лет назад +2

      Sadly the AI gets really predictable when you figure it out I only got an 1:30 from it before I figured it out, in fact I do feel like it should have been cheaper, because once you sink in a couple of hours it gets really shallow, because you know the mechanics and how it works, however multiplayer is excellent even more so with friends, but Nidhogg also feel REALLY unfinished, but this is my opinion, not fact so take it how you please, I feel like I shouldn't have bought it. :/

    • @Tunmannen
      @Tunmannen 11 лет назад +1

      And by 1:30 I mean an hour and thirty minutes, but you could get games that have much more depth and gaming time for the amount of money Nidhogg is asking for.

  • @Stairc
    @Stairc 11 лет назад +7

    It's a sad day when a person complains about "$11 for this game?! That's some greedy developers there!" and doesn't hear the hypocrisy.
    Because she doesn't want to pay a few extra dollars, that means the *developers* are greedy? If she doesn't think she'll get enough enjoyment out of it for the price point, that's fine. Some will sink days into this and some won't see the appeal. But to call this indie developer greedy because she's not willing to pay a bit more for his multi-year project is just weird.

  • @TheTechnicalMiracle
    @TheTechnicalMiracle 11 лет назад +20

    It's actually 15 dollars, it's 12 till January 20th.

    • @Lichelf
      @Lichelf 11 лет назад +3

      They said that in the video

    • @TheTechnicalMiracle
      @TheTechnicalMiracle 11 лет назад

      hyperk2 Well, it was 50 (or was it 60?) when it came out.

  • @klasta69
    @klasta69 11 лет назад +6

    Genna, now I'm wondering what you think about the pricing of minecraft.

  • @LostScarf
    @LostScarf 10 лет назад +1

    This is a curious video. The first half is a lot of fun watching with them just enjoying the game; then the second half is an interesting discussion between TB and Genna about the game.

  • @RekijanME
    @RekijanME 11 лет назад +10

    Now you are getting the hang of it, sword of. Teehee

    • @Nettacki
      @Nettacki 11 лет назад +5

      "sword of"
      omg that pun's killing me

    • @the_berzi
      @the_berzi 11 лет назад

      ***** What is this? Reddit?

  • @Will6753
    @Will6753 10 лет назад +14

    You can smell the decaying relationship past 20 minutes xD

    • @DiddntFindANameLol
      @DiddntFindANameLol 10 лет назад +28

      Because arguing = dying relationship?

    • @cordia96
      @cordia96 10 лет назад +23

      DiddntFindANameLol Like Mario Kart, after a game of Nidhogg, relationships are destroyed

    • @bukay5861
      @bukay5861 10 лет назад +13

      ***** Dont forget monopoly

    • @cordia96
      @cordia96 10 лет назад +5

      Tyler The Kid Monopoly is more likely to end an evening. It always ends with two guys controlling an equal side of the board, while the rest starts to get even more drunk, playing Smash Bros, Nidhogg or something.

    • @tophatdiablo8270
      @tophatdiablo8270 10 лет назад +13

      They're ribbing each other, if anything it's the sign of a healthy relationship.

  • @Xemyr
    @Xemyr 10 лет назад +10

    I am dirt poor and I bought this game for 11 dollars and have played it for 10 hours and it was FUCKING WORTH IT. Probably still the 2nd best party game I have.

  • @TengouX
    @TengouX 10 лет назад

    I'm actually quite impressed by the wealth of mechanics this one dude managed to put into this simple looking game. Striking at 3 levels, from angles, jumping, latching to walls and jumping off of them, parrying and throwing, jump kicks, crouching and rolling, unarmed combat and blocking, there is a whole lot to this game.

  • @jepepe01
    @jepepe01 11 лет назад +29

    These are better than normal WTF :D

    • @cynicalbrit
      @cynicalbrit 11 лет назад +26

      Portion of audience prefers screechy shitty Lets Plays. I wish I could say I was surprised

    • @jepepe01
      @jepepe01 11 лет назад +28

      Fair point but that is not what I meant, for this kind of smaller games that feature local multiplayer an opinion of two people has more value, from entertainment and informative perspective.
      Your WTF of Nidhogg was good and informative but what really sold the game for me was when both of you expressed your opinions.
      And lets face it, you two are way too funny together to not pass one of your videos.

    • @LilyStarflame
      @LilyStarflame 11 лет назад

      Or maybe they prefer the banter between you and Genna?

  • @Arexion5293
    @Arexion5293 11 лет назад +2

    "C'mon and Slam! And Welcome to the jam!"
    Oh you, TB.

  • @CuppaGi
    @CuppaGi 11 лет назад +4

    I believe you run slightly faster while disarmed, meaning if your oponent removes your weapon but fails to kill you you can outrun them

  • @TheMexicanDude0882
    @TheMexicanDude0882 11 лет назад +1

    Genna's "Nya!" at 10:45 is amazing. I could not stop laughing. xD

  • @OngoingDiscovery
    @OngoingDiscovery 10 лет назад +8

    League of legend has barely any maps and is one of the most popular games in the world. The number of stages isnt the most important factor

    • @vids657
      @vids657 10 лет назад +7

      the difference is that the games mechanics is more complex in lol, I`m not saying I agree I am saying though that there is a difference between both games

    • @OngoingDiscovery
      @OngoingDiscovery 10 лет назад +2

      Of course, they are very different games, just saying that for a game like this, the number of stages isnt necessarily the most important thing

    • @vids657
      @vids657 10 лет назад

      ForShizzleize well yeah both games are more dependent on the varying ways they can be played by people

    • @J0elPeters
      @J0elPeters 10 лет назад +3

      DOTA is honestly better.

    • @pasx9506
      @pasx9506 10 лет назад

      John Henry
      That is propably becouze you looked at the graphics and not the gameplay.I am not a big fun of league for a complete different reason becouze i prefer Strategy games with sliders...And which many of them have the same maps again and again maps are the smallest part of the experience most of the times is a background.

  • @Angrywaffle5759
    @Angrywaffle5759 11 лет назад +1

    "Welcome to Toby Turner's entire library" i just LOLLED at that one XD

  • @aformofmatter8913
    @aformofmatter8913 10 лет назад +118

    There are games waaaaaaaaay more simplistic in terms of mechanics that are $60.

    • @Toimi
      @Toimi 10 лет назад +72

      Cod.

    • @Toimi
      @Toimi 10 лет назад +6

      ***** Yeah, it was just a joke, of course i am not serious. I actually liked CoD 4, in mw2 the snipers was way to OP, now i don't play those games anymore. Moved over to counter strike. :D

    • @aformofmatter8913
      @aformofmatter8913 10 лет назад +11

      ***** The mechanics of most modern military shooters aren`t simplistic per say, but the campaign modes tend to play out like a slightly interactive movie.

    • @Toimi
      @Toimi 10 лет назад

      Kaelen O'Hea haha, yeah :P

    • @Xarazel
      @Xarazel 9 лет назад

      Wilhelm Toimi im no CoD fanboy, by holy shit are you wrong. CoD and Nidhogg have the same principle: the same maps over and over, but with new opponents everytime. difference is that CoD is 'mainstream'...so piss off with your hipster attitude

  • @LazureusFalcone
    @LazureusFalcone 11 лет назад +2

    Genna.. your laugh is wonderful.

  • @Metatr0n
    @Metatr0n 10 лет назад +15

    If you play this game and have fun for at least 1.5 hours, you made a good deal. I see thousands of people that spend 15 bucks on watching Michael Bay explosions for 1.5 hours and find it "fun and entertaining", so why should be 11 bucks too much for a game that gives 1.5+ hours of entertainment?

    • @Metatr0n
      @Metatr0n 10 лет назад +5

      Nopiw Thanks for your reply. I was actually talking about "popcorn cinema". Exactly those movies which you won't discuss with your friends and families, which you won't remember a week after watching them because it's just generic, brainless bullshit.
      I agree on the existence of movies that are really worthwhile, entertaining, mentally challenging and of course bring up interesting conversations with friends or colleges weeks after watching it. But it's not the general case today. The last really worthwhile movie that I watched was Cloud Atlas and I had nobody to talk about it except for my wife because I actually watched it with her. Nobody else bothered because the movie was "too complicated".
      It's my personal preference but I'd rather spend 11 bucks for a game that I can play for a couple of hours on a couple of days than for "Michael Bay: The brainless Movie Explosion VII".

    • @thebaker525
      @thebaker525 9 лет назад

      Alright then Moviebob...

    • @kahrkunne3960
      @kahrkunne3960 9 лет назад

      Metatr0n
      11 bucks for 1.5 hours is insanely expensive. I generally only buy products if they can guarantee me 1 hour of enjoyment per dollar spent.

  • @JordanBl
    @JordanBl 11 лет назад

    Well, damn am I glad you post these. From the two seconds every minute that I saw, it seemed good.

  • @Arcanon792
    @Arcanon792 11 лет назад +4

    LOL, the new thumbnail is fantastic xD

  • @terranerror
    @terranerror 11 лет назад

    Love you guys! This obviously is a better demonstration of the fun to be had than the WTF.. "i've got nails!" cracked me up :)

  • @KeatonX92
    @KeatonX92 11 лет назад +20

    3:40 am.. *Sleep is for the weak!*

    • @TheBronf
      @TheBronf 11 лет назад +1

      no sleep is for the insane

    • @SirBlaziken
      @SirBlaziken 11 лет назад +7

      TheBronf THEN SLEEP WE SHALL NOT

  • @Superhrnet
    @Superhrnet 11 лет назад

    I think this is worth every penny. As someone who has participated in Kendo, I get a similar feeling of challenge to my mental fortitude, reflexes, and creativity in this game. I get this raw feeling, that I am fighting against a person, not a character. It's not based off how well that person has learned a combo, or how much time that person put into building his character, It's about directly testing the mental facilities of my opponent.

  • @GigaDarkness
    @GigaDarkness 9 лет назад +10

    Genna knows jack shit about game development.

  • @JoComeau696
    @JoComeau696 11 лет назад

    These WTF Research streams are amazingly fun to watch! I love to hear opinions from both parties!

  • @TheDethBringer666
    @TheDethBringer666 11 лет назад +27

    "Research"

  • @riccardosartirana1155
    @riccardosartirana1155 9 лет назад +1

    In my headcanon Nidhogg is a game telling the story of two immortals fighting for the right to gain the bliss of final death in the jaws of the wyrm.

  • @xdeser2949
    @xdeser2949 11 лет назад +3

    The Nidhogg...oh the great memories of Age of Mythology...

    • @AlozarLorandul
      @AlozarLorandul 11 лет назад

      Glad to know that I'm not the only one that played that game. That thing was my childhood.

  • @Agent-Nu11
    @Agent-Nu11 11 лет назад +1

    This was so enjoyable in so many ways

  • @gilgameshvolante
    @gilgameshvolante 11 лет назад +10

    this game just needs more stuff in the stages,cause except some platforms they have almost nothing in them

  • @bukinnear
    @bukinnear 11 лет назад

    At first I wondered why these videos were on Genna's channel, but then I realized that these are essentially let's plays and then it made sense :3

  • @ceropuntocinco
    @ceropuntocinco 11 лет назад +19

    *Sorry, English is my second language"
    I really want to like this game,but the stroboscopic lights makes me sick ):

  • @onegamingmoose
    @onegamingmoose 8 лет назад +2

    I like how the game reflected the argument!

  • @Creed490
    @Creed490 11 лет назад +8

    Don't see why TB is so pro-Nidhogg. Has he look at the options menu? FOV slider is non-existent.

  • @underlord2132
    @underlord2132 11 лет назад +5

    I think this game could do with more weapons or abilities or something, the guy has a good base to work with though. Fun little game but I do agree it lacks replayability, with a bit of polish I think that could be fixed though.

    • @iwannabeanarwhal
      @iwannabeanarwhal 11 лет назад +6

      More weapons, no, it would take away the whole point of the game. But it definitely needs more maps, even more considering that playing in a certain map could highly affect the way you play.

    • @underlord2132
      @underlord2132 11 лет назад

      iwannabeanarwhal
      The maps will need to have some sort of gimmick like the cloud one then.

    • @iwannabeanarwhal
      @iwannabeanarwhal 11 лет назад

      underlord2132 Not really, in a game like this, just the structure of the stage can affect the way it is played. And example would be at 6:04, where TB does a wall jump to get past Genna. And adding more things to the stages and making them more complex would be interesting, and could potentially benefit the game, giving it more variety, not just on the artistic side, but i the gameplay.

    • @underlord2132
      @underlord2132 11 лет назад

      iwannabeanarwhal Added complexity within the maps is what I mean with gimmicks. Something to change the tactics for the stage.

  • @MidnightSpecial777
    @MidnightSpecial777 11 лет назад +3

    I enjoyed watching this. Both of you are quite good at satire.

  • @CFHistory
    @CFHistory 10 лет назад +2

    TB certainly has the "Ah-ha!" down though

  • @MarkoLomovic
    @MarkoLomovic 11 лет назад +5

    Price is fair in my opinion because its made by one guy and he did amazingly good job I take my hat off. Its is easy to complain when you have no idea what it takes to make game. Yeah he could put price lower and be fine but I want him to get a lot of money so he can keep making games and maybe get some help that is why price is high its to support and I think we all know what that means. In games like this you don't need many stages its fighting game simple as that and mechanic are amazing.
    This game is tons of fun when competing when friends and that is why I love it it does that job very well I needed something like this got bored with standard fighting games .

  • @Baiko
    @Baiko 11 лет назад +7

    If I had a friend to play this locally with, I'd easily pay what it costs, I mean, it costs the same a cheap pizza.

    • @Hademars
      @Hademars 11 лет назад +2

      It has online multiplayer too!

    • @Baiko
      @Baiko 11 лет назад +1

      Hademar Peole are saying the net code is pretty bad, and I don't think it would be as fun, either.

    • @Hademars
      @Hademars 11 лет назад +1

      Baiko Ah damn, that'd be a problem. I don't mind it being less fun/engaging maybe because I play games w/ Skype on a lot anyway. But if the netcode is bad then that'd be a pretty huge problem for a game like this.

  • @Moonunitz
    @Moonunitz 11 лет назад +8

    Genna hates fun.

  • @dovahkiinlord605
    @dovahkiinlord605 11 лет назад

    i like the fact they're both doing gameplay together.

  • @tysej4
    @tysej4 11 лет назад +13

    There's no way to say that this game won't get future DLC.. Maybe even free DLC
    15$ to me is not that big of a deal... I've played 5$ games which weren't as satisfactory... This in comparison to other FAMOUS world acclaimed indies, that costs 15$.. Is not actually that bad.

  • @1Invinc
    @1Invinc 11 лет назад

    OH MY GOSH.
    HAHAH!!!! The Cover pic for this is so ADORABLE!
    AHA! AHA! AHA!

  • @AskEpic
    @AskEpic 11 лет назад +5

    I wouldnt pay 15 dollars for divekick. it's the same reason.

  • @Scorpio2074
    @Scorpio2074 9 лет назад +1

    Aww... Genna has such a cute and contagious laugh. :)

  • @warriorfire8103
    @warriorfire8103 10 лет назад +3

    lmao, turns into a real death battle when they starting debating game prices

  • @Durzaka
    @Durzaka 11 лет назад

    im only 5 minutes in and this is great. TB and genna are having so much fun playing it.

  • @o0m9
    @o0m9 11 лет назад +6

    A game like this would probably take a long time to develop for an individual. Fighting game mechanics are inherently complex, and timing mechanics properly would take a lot of playtesting, which is hard to do when you have a team of one and a budget of whatever you happen to have on you.
    If I had actual income (I actually am pulling in $0 atm), then I would probably buy it, but I'm on a seriously tight budget so I'm giving this one a pass.

  • @JanWikholm
    @JanWikholm 9 лет назад

    Genna's laughter/giggling is adorable! ^______^

  • @2veki
    @2veki 11 лет назад +52

    "Long live the queen" that's nothing but text game is 9 euros, and "Nidhogg" is only 1,5 euros more... TB why didn't you tell her that! God damn it ;/
    Also keep in mind ONE DUDE himself made this and all he ask is 10,5 euros, give the man some credit... not like it's a bad game. It's really fun, also you don't judge the game by graphics, that's really childish thinking (no offense!) Thought it always should be Mechanics & gameplay > Graphical environment.

    • @GennaBain
      @GennaBain  11 лет назад +14

      Hey hey hey now! That 9 euros provided LOTS of viewers with hilarity and laughs. That was honestly the best money I ever spent making TB play a princess game. :) That aside, let me say that graphic styles are a choice but they also have an associated cost. All I was trying to get across is that the guy clearly didn't have to shell out a huge amt of money for artwork, therefore what is he trying to recoup exactly besides his own time? Thanks for voicing your side though, it is appreciated. :)

    • @2veki
      @2veki 11 лет назад +7

      Genna Bain Well that's true but... if I put myself in his shoes, I bet he didn't have much money to start with :/ I think he was doing the game with the stuff he had, like... if he started to do a game right now I bet he would do a much more "graphical" product! :P

    • @kovalsky666
      @kovalsky666 11 лет назад +4

      Blade Symphony costs as much as Nidhogg. Compare these two. Also Genna have a valid point in that you can get bored with this game in half an hour if mechanics won't suit you, and you have no way to know that before playing it for yourself. And it has nothing else going for it aside of mechanics.

    • @tomc.7243
      @tomc.7243 11 лет назад +2

      2veki Also, I don't care about graphics in games as long as they are good, but to be honest, $15 for a game with simple mechanics is a little bit too much IMO. Maybe 8 would have been better

    • @2veki
      @2veki 11 лет назад +2

      Deyerli A "SIMPLE" they do look "SIMPLE" only because of the graphics, let's see you do them? Also the game is really fun since you have online mode, I don't see how you people get bored so easily... no wonder CoD, Battlefields and all that garbage are making so much money. Just sad. With the given fact they cost 60$+ for GRAPHICS ONLY, everything else is taken from previous versions... good job on that, you could rather just watch few movies for that kind of money. THOSE games get boring after 15min max.

  • @MaddogSamurEye
    @MaddogSamurEye 10 лет назад

    Apparently that ground-kill move on a downed opponent is in fact ripping his heart out. Neck snap ok, heart rip, squick.

  • @saveumberto
    @saveumberto 11 лет назад +6

    YOU NEED TO GIFF SACRIFICE TO THE NIDHOGG.

    • @Edit-nk6nb
      @Edit-nk6nb 11 лет назад +23

      What about a .JPEG sacrifice ?

    • @xCr00k3Dx
      @xCr00k3Dx 11 лет назад +1

      Edit How 'bout an .AVI?

  • @SlimTony
    @SlimTony 10 лет назад +2

    13:15 "Through the glass!" "Throw the thing!" "Stab the wife!"

  • @Ahmed176E
    @Ahmed176E 11 лет назад +24

    I'm inclined to side with Genna here. The very limited number of stages hinders this game, but the dev has the opportunity to fix that with patches. The real problem to me seems to be the incredibly simple mechanics, which I imagine could get old quickly. But even if they don't and this is a really good game, how great the game is is not the only factor at play when it comes to price. It also comes down to budget, and the incredibly simple mechanics combined with the even more simple art style is something that does not warrant an eleven dollar pricetag. Five dollars sure, 7.50 sure, but eleven just isn't worth it.
    Compare that with other similar games, like Electronic Super Joy. With simplistic graphics and gameplay, that game is 8 dollars. When people pay money for a game, they expect something that looks like it deserved that pricetag, and in here, yes graphics does matter a lot.
    Where people get this notion that the fun the game provides should directly equate to price is beyond me. Ride to Hell Retribution is $20 on Steam, a game like Super Hexagon is $3 on Steam, and actually went for sale for half a dollar and even a quarter during the winter sale. Even beyond that, how much fun people get out of a game is subjective, as is obvious in this video. With something that subjective, you can't justify a pricetag with that alone.

    • @Vodhr
      @Vodhr 11 лет назад +9

      Agreed!
      And if you pay... I think 3 dollars more(?) Then you can buy Dust: An Elysian Tale instead - an INCREDIBLE peice of game!
      The artstyle, the music, the fighting in that game - god lord!
      So Nidhogg was made by one guy...
      Dust was also coded and all that... BY ONE GUY!!! (Check some videos of the difference!)
      And the art assets in Dust are, what I would say, "fullfiled".
      Meaning: to me, this game feels lazy in it's art style...
      I like the style here, and I get the Retro-spree we've had. But this doesn't catch me visualy being "fullfilling", compared to a game like Dust.
      And the same guy who made Dust spent, I think, a year on his own to make the PC port - and it's an excellent port! :)
      I am diffinently with Genna on this one!
      15 bucks, full price, for this? NOPE!
      Especiallly when I could get Dust on a sale... AAAAND! After having bought it on a sale, to actually feel BAD for not paying full price for an excellent game!
      That's is the difference...
      Nidhogg: "Do I wanna pay 15 bucks for this game... no, yes, maybe?"
      Dust: "I bought this game for 7 bucks on a sale... Can I donate the rest via Paypal...?" XD

  • @dovaakiinbadass7769
    @dovaakiinbadass7769 11 лет назад

    You guys should do more of this

  • @Vodhr
    @Vodhr 11 лет назад +19

    Dust: An Elysian Tail - I mention this game, because it have the same price, one guy designed and coded that game aswell...
    And THIS is how that game looks: Dust: An Elysian Tail - Launch Trailer
    My personaly reaction is just to yell at people "Go BUY THE GAME!"
    But, I'd rather say, I really recomend you try it! :)
    Dive kick - Kind of similar basic fighting mechanic, in that it skins the mechanic to the core, so it is simply the "twitch-skill" of the player.
    Divekick also have a more graphicaly pleasing looks that doesn't relly on a poorly made retro style... I've seen good retro/pixle looking games - and this is not one of them!
    Not to mention the different charachters in Divekick - there are variety!
    Don't remember how many levels there are in Divekick... But those are drawn.
    Here it is all pixalated. I am no programer, but to my limited experience with editing Terraria maps, I can EASILY make a completely new map in matter of minutes with MS PAINT!!! :P
    (Now, I haven't played either of Nidhogg or Divekick. These are my thoughts so far by observig these two games. Especialy since they seem fixed on comparing the two. :P )
    Conclusion - no... Not worth the price!
    I think the best description here is how TB dislike Samurai Gunn, but liking this.
    Both simplistic fighting games for the same price.
    Not saying either is better then the other. (Apart from SG not having online function - that is just ridiculous!)

    • @klaazje
      @klaazje 11 лет назад +1

      I loved dust

    • @KXILite
      @KXILite 11 лет назад +2

      I really think if they added more stages I would buy this game full price, like an additional 4 stages would be enough for me.

    • @TheAsvarduilProject
      @TheAsvarduilProject 11 лет назад

      KXILite I agree. Also, if the graphics were a bit better. This seriously looks like an Atari game.

    • @KXILite
      @KXILite 11 лет назад +1

      That gives it a certain charm for me, but its not animated like an atari game, this game's animation is seriously amazing that most games of this style mess up.

    • @C3epy
      @C3epy 11 лет назад

      i tried it, but it is too plain for me, and gets real booring after a while

  • @BurtyHaxx
    @BurtyHaxx 10 лет назад +1

    this is so funny to watch :P ... and genna's voice is amazing

  • @Roin7
    @Roin7 11 лет назад +6

    5:35
    Shots fired :P

  • @leonmoore3174
    @leonmoore3174 6 лет назад +1

    "Bint" is a word I don't hear often enough

  • @ztucky
    @ztucky 11 лет назад +25

    Im slightly annoyed by genna in this video :\

  • @RastafarianPilgrim
    @RastafarianPilgrim 11 лет назад +2

    If you take the "aHA!" exclamation and loop it three or four times, it sounds like Pennywise the Clown.

  • @HAMANCAM
    @HAMANCAM 11 лет назад +8

    Marriage ending game!

  • @fattykthehumaneclipse
    @fattykthehumaneclipse 9 лет назад

    Who did the music for this game, Cyriak? Awesome none the less.