Hi rcgldr. Seven months ago, you wrote a comment on EUCO. I understand that you know about batteries. I don't want to bother you, but I'm looking for the truth. Regarding the Inmotion V8s, compared to the V8f. Do you believe that the increased battery of the V8s only affects the autonomy, or even the performance of the unicycle? (less tiltback for example) Thanks for your help.
I've since found battery tests for the V8F MJ1 batteries and the V8S M50T batteries. At 30 amp draw (the fuse is a 30 amp fuse, which is really 33 amps), the actual voltage due to voltage sag for the same percentage charge, the V8S pack will have about 6% more voltage than V8F. For the same amount of energy drawn, about 8.5 % more voltage. The difference is less for the 20 to 25 amps I try to stay under on my V8F. Speed tiltback is based on battery charge, and it doesn't drop much on V8F | V8S. The maximum acceleration (30 amps) would be 6% to 8.5% better on the V8S. However, current draw increases linearly with speed, and by more than 1x due to voltage sag. Once at 12 to 15 mph, I ease off on acceleration. Wrong Way's acceleration test on the V8S showed a peak of 32 + amps around 18 mph, which was risky. As for range, it's just a hobby of mine and I rarely ride for more than 30 minutes at a time.
Thanks a lot for the answer. I understood that you are competent. My doubt comes from the fact that I am a bit heavy (84kg), and I would like to make the right choice between V8f and V8s. Not in terms of autonomy, but in terms of performance in general. I don't want to overwhelm him. You have been very kind thanks.
@@BrunoM66 - V8S would have a bit more performance, the main advantage 40% more range. Wen from EUCO did a range test on the V8S. The tilt back speed reductions occurred at 66%, 50%, 33%, but not much. from 22 mph at 100% down to 19 mph at 33%. Those were Inmotion app speeds, which are inflated by 7% compared to EUC World GPS speed, so that 22 mph is more like 20 mph. V10F is the next step up, but despite having double the batteries, fuse only increased from 30 amps to 40 amps, and top speed by only 3 mph. The V10F trolley handle is external, and could possibly break if a rider bails from the V10F and lets it fall. V10F weight is 45 lb, so it takes a bit more effort to lean or tilt it. The tire is 2.5 inches wide versus 2.125 inches wide, so it needs less tilt for the same turn. V10F is on sale right now, $1500 versus the V8S at $1400.
Excellent. I think the V10f is too much for me (it's my first single wheel), I know the price is similar, but it's heavier and I think it's less agile in the city. I think the V8 is more for me. I just don't know if the V8f or the V8s is better for my weight. Thanks very kind.
@@BrunoM66 - The V8S has more range, and voltage decrease per mile ridden will be less than V8F. V8S is less than 2 lbs heavier than V8F. Price is V8F $1200, V8S $1400. If the difference in price isn't an issue, I would recommend the V8S. As for agility, the weight is mostly an issue if twisting the wheel for balance and to turn (yaw steering), at slow speed (3 to 5 mph), and although I learned slow speed riding first, most beginners learn to ride at a faster, stable speed first (5 to 8 mph), using tilt steering (inner foot down, outer foot up) to turn (due to camber effect). The weight doesn't affect tilt steering much. The other weight issue is if you have to carry the EUC, or lift it high to put it into a car (my car has a high hatchback).
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Hi rcgldr.
Seven months ago, you wrote a comment on EUCO.
I understand that you know about batteries.
I don't want to bother you, but I'm looking for the truth.
Regarding the Inmotion V8s, compared to the V8f.
Do you believe that the increased battery of the V8s only affects the autonomy, or even the performance of the unicycle? (less tiltback for example)
Thanks for your help.
I've since found battery tests for the V8F MJ1 batteries and the V8S M50T batteries. At 30 amp draw (the fuse is a 30 amp fuse, which is really 33 amps), the actual voltage due to voltage sag for the same percentage charge, the V8S pack will have about 6% more voltage than V8F. For the same amount of energy drawn, about 8.5 % more voltage. The difference is less for the 20 to 25 amps I try to stay under on my V8F. Speed tiltback is based on battery charge, and it doesn't drop much on V8F | V8S. The maximum acceleration (30 amps) would be 6% to 8.5% better on the V8S. However, current draw increases linearly with speed, and by more than 1x due to voltage sag. Once at 12 to 15 mph, I ease off on acceleration. Wrong Way's acceleration test on the V8S showed a peak of 32 + amps around 18 mph, which was risky. As for range, it's just a hobby of mine and I rarely ride for more than 30 minutes at a time.
Thanks a lot for the answer.
I understood that you are competent.
My doubt comes from the fact that I am a bit heavy (84kg), and I would like to make the right choice between V8f and V8s. Not in terms of autonomy, but in terms of performance in general. I don't want to overwhelm him.
You have been very kind thanks.
@@BrunoM66 - V8S would have a bit more performance, the main advantage 40% more range. Wen from EUCO did a range test on the V8S. The tilt back speed reductions occurred at 66%, 50%, 33%, but not much. from 22 mph at 100% down to 19 mph at 33%. Those were Inmotion app speeds, which are inflated by 7% compared to EUC World GPS speed, so that 22 mph is more like 20 mph.
V10F is the next step up, but despite having double the batteries, fuse only increased from 30 amps to 40 amps, and top speed by only 3 mph. The V10F trolley handle is external, and could possibly break if a rider bails from the V10F and lets it fall. V10F weight is 45 lb, so it takes a bit more effort to lean or tilt it. The tire is 2.5 inches wide versus 2.125 inches wide, so it needs less tilt for the same turn. V10F is on sale right now, $1500 versus the V8S at $1400.
Excellent.
I think the V10f is too much for me (it's my first single wheel), I know the price is similar, but it's heavier and I think it's less agile in the city.
I think the V8 is more for me. I just don't know if the V8f or the V8s is better for my weight.
Thanks very kind.
@@BrunoM66 - The V8S has more range, and voltage decrease per mile ridden will be less than V8F. V8S is less than 2 lbs heavier than V8F. Price is V8F $1200, V8S $1400. If the difference in price isn't an issue, I would recommend the V8S.
As for agility, the weight is mostly an issue if twisting the wheel for balance and to turn (yaw steering), at slow speed (3 to 5 mph), and although I learned slow speed riding first, most beginners learn to ride at a faster, stable speed first (5 to 8 mph), using tilt steering (inner foot down, outer foot up) to turn (due to camber effect). The weight doesn't affect tilt steering much. The other weight issue is if you have to carry the EUC, or lift it high to put it into a car (my car has a high hatchback).