I love your genuine, honest style and sharing. No pretenses, no ego, and no fake shilling for manufacturers, even when you feel a deep connection with the brand. I appreciate your discerning attention to detail and explaining the pros and cons, ups and downs, of your latest moves. Yes, everything in photography it seems has a compromise, with tradeoffs, some hidden and some clearly evident at the outset, and it is hard to know all the pitfalls when one makes an expensive lens purchase. Subscribed!
This is actually a great lesson and advice! Sticking to our needs and remembering why we're buying a lens. Usually, while we do our own research, we end up stumbling on different lenses and our own focus starts hunting back and forth, losing our initial interest in the process. At some point, we fall on the trap of going with something we don't really need because some reviewer said it's amazing. Maybe it is, for his/her needs. We should always make priority list and accept no lens is perfect and compromises shall be made (price, IQ, vignetting, size, weight, aperture ring, AF/MF, etc. ). We got to stick to our priorities and accept we won't get everything out of a lens.
Jackie! Thank you for making this video, RUclips brought me to you in recommendations after a long week at work. I’ve instantly subscribed hearing your gentle voice, even pace and wonderfully deep take. All that being said, I love this lens! Just like you, it’s also what I needed, slowing me down with manual focus and it’s the perfect: “I want wider than my favourite lens (35mm f1.4 R), pancake and easy to keep with me on my X-T50” I’m enjoying the manual focus and have been feeling passionate about photography again with a busy day job that sucks a lot of my creativity. Can’t wait to see more from you!
I just got the voig 27mm f2 for my x-pro2 I love it , but I am a manual focus guy for years now. I have a diferent aproach. I had the 27mm f2.8 its a great little lens. Happy shooting.
I've considered all these lenses too, even bought the ttartisan 25mm f/2. But I'm just not in love with manual lenses (at this current point in time lol). I have been looking at/for this lens for well over a year but could never justify the over retail used prices. After watching your video, I started stalking the BH website again and luckily was able to snag the 27mm 2.8 the other day. It gets delivered tomorrow. I'm so excited about having a smaller, compact set up with AF.
The focus throw issue is a dealkiller for a manual focus, street lens. Thank you for raising it. I've only seen it mentioned in one other video, from another person talking about their real, on the ground experience as well. I have the 18mm, where it is slightly less of an issue, but even for zone focusers like me, it keeps you from changing your zone quickly without having to stop and look at the LCD (as opposed to nudging gently with muscle memory). But for 27mm, I have the Fujifilm, like you do. Separately, I don't think it satisfies your other requirements, but on the 1% chance you didn't consider it, you could adapt a full frame 28mm lens to fix the focus throw issue, but this loses things like electronic contacts, small size, no weather sealing, potential distance scale accuracy issues, etc. Finally, also want to second the other commenter's thought that when the time (and budget) comes, to consider a Ricoh GRIII or IIIx if it meets your needs at that time. So many of us Fuji shooters have gone that route when wanting to go smaller and pocketable. Appreciate the real, lived experience perspective.
First off, thank you for a no BS video. Subscribed immediately. Great advice here. I am in love with the voigtlander. I find the focusing tab less of a problem when you shoot in an area that I'm familiar with. I have the f22 issue as well though. Fantastic lens, great IQ, beautiful sturdy build, but for quick street snaps, it can be w challenge
I got the Fujinon pancake 27mm f/2,8 with my pre-owned X-E4 when I bought it but I never used it much, because I quickly got the Voigtländer 35mm F/1,2 and then later the monstrous and insanely fun Voigtländer 35mm f/0,9... -However I recently began using the 27mm f/2,8 in specific situations where I think hit-rates without autofocus would be too low... -And it's such a nice lens and it renders pretty spectacularly I think, considering all the inevitable optical compromises made due to its size! The 27mm Fujinon is definitely a keeper for me and I am sure that I will get even more use out of it once I upgrade to a weather sealed body, like X-Pro 3, where it will be perfect for street photography during storms and rainy weather!
I’ve had the Fuji 27 and voigtlander 27. I liked the voigtlander much more for the rendering but for a snapshot lens I needed auto focus. Like you said I forgot to check my boxes. So then I tried the Ricoh griii(three times actually) as like a small dinner on the go camera, but it was too wide to fall in love with. Finally tried the griiix and I’m in love like never before 😊
Thanks for sharing that. I’ve watched a few videos about the Ricoh but have no budget for a third camera right now. Glad you found something that you love.
the lens hood is very small and this is a significant thing for a lens like the XF27mmF2.8, has lots of sun flares whose main advantage is its compactness and lightness. It is very well made and the screwing onto the lens is smooth. It protects the lens, especially when you keep the camera in your pocket and you could touch the lens with your fingers when taking out the camera. It also does its job as a lens hood with good results. I tried to test its effectiveness using a flashlight with a very narrow beam pointed towards the lens and measuring the angle at which the light begins to "brighten" in the photo, because the beam hits the lens and inevitably part of the light is diffracted towards the sensor. Without a lens hood, the light beam hits the lens when it has an angle of 30° with respect to the plane of the camera. With the lens hood this angle increases by 45°. It is not a lot, especially if you consider that the field of view of the lens is narrower, but to make more "shadow" on the lens without tightening the FOV, it should have been larger. There are larger and more effective hoods, but they basically double the overall thickness of the lens and in my opinion the main advantage of the XF27mm is lost. Some people complain that with the hood you can't put the cover on the lens, but this is easily remedied with a cover that costs a few euros. The front diameter of the hood is 30mm and in this way the lens is really well protected.
I have this 27mm Voigtlander lens. It’s an acquired taste, but I’m really enjoying it. I grew up shooting manual focus anyway, so it’s a throwback to that. For street photography, you can use a zone focus approach, and that works well. Just use a higher F stop and focus ahead of time using the focus tab and the distance numbers. The f22 issue is Fuji’s fault. I had no issue until I upgraded Fuji’s firmware. Anyway, I’m glad I have this lens. Its image quality is excellent. When I use it with my X-T5, it’s a very small setup that’s almost pocketable. The manual focus is fun once you get the hang of it. If you’re excited about this lens and thinking about getting it, don’t let this video put you off. Just know what you’re getting into and embrace it.
I had the fuji 27 when I bought my xt2 as a used bundle. My intention was to use it for street. After some time, I felt that 27 was too tight for me, so I got the fuji 18/2, which is now my main lens for street photography (coupled with the fuji 35/1.4). I since sold the fuji 27, BUT decided to get the Voigtlander Ultron 27. The Ultron serves as my casual lens whenever I grab my camera to bring with me on a walk, errand, or meetup. The choice to switch to a manual lens was intentional, forcing me to slow down a bit and enjoy a different process. I'm enjoying the 27 so much now that I'm eyeing the newer Voigtlander 18/2.8 pancake lol.
Jackie, your honesty is appreciated. I enjoy the experience of using the TTArtisans AF. I also enjoy using some of their other manual lenses, especially the 17mm f/1.7. But for street photography I would never use f/2. Can’t see the point. All your street photography examples had everything in sharp focus. Zone focus for my kind of street photography is just fine. The Voigtländer is built around the fact that as you go away from the camera the depth of field stretches. Beyond 3m you have a very generous d-o-f. Anywhere beyond 3m and d-o-f is more or less infinite.
@@JackieDElia, and a great video title. So many click bait titles are completely misleading. You’re right. Everything is compromise. The more you learn about lenses and optics the more you realise that …
I think we've all had this. I gave up waiting for the XF 27mm and bought the TTArtisan lens and it's great. Focus is fast and quiet, vignetting isn't an issue as most post processing apps can fix it. I do still keep an eye out for the XF 27mm though as it's slightly smaller and I shoot with an X-M1.
@@DavidMBanes I was waiting for her to discuss the third option- the TTA. Since the video end has no satisfying conclusion, I wonder if she should have tried this inexpensive solution (or possibly discussed it). I love mine. Maybe I’ll get the Ultron as a nice compliment. i’m thankful to learn about the short focus throw.
@@JackieDElia I mostly shoot f5.6 or f8. Yes, vignetting. I keep an extra little lens in the bag to get down to f1.4. Good video, plus we all get something out of a good comments discussion.
I absolutely adore the Voigtlander. I have the entire range, except for the .95 Nocht. Focus peaking is essential--especially with old eyes like mine. lol--I love stepping away from the reliance on the computer chip/af system in the camera (except for peaking), and I loved slowing down my shooting pace. Was never bothered by the Fuji AF crisis of earlier this year either….just popped on a Voigtlander and I was good to go. Yes, these lenses take more work, and much more patience but I find them very rewarding in a way that AF lenses are not. I guess it’s perception and personal taste, but if you ever get the chance to pick up the Voigtlander 18 or 27mm lenses again, I think you’d find them enjoyable-I hope!
@ true…it was pricey…but it’s definitely well-made. Mine took a couple of tumbles to the floor…not a scratch. The 18 and 27 are very forgiving lenses too…the others take a bit more work. Maybe you can find a cheap used one on B+H one day…..
Thanks for video. Just subscribed - I like your honesty. I have the Voigtlander 18mm which I really love. However, I agree with you, I wish the focus throw was larger. That said, the 18mm has larger depth of field so focusing precision is less critical than it would be on 27mm.
This is where the Nikon ZF shines, to be fair. It's SO easy to use MF with the excellent focus confirmation tools that are lacking on every other brand right now. If I was mainlining Fuji, though, I'm sure I'd lean towards an AF everyday lens for this very reason.
The voigtländer is a lens that peaked my interest, but not quite enough to purchase. I like the focal length but it's not one I instinctively grab. I have a rather big one, the Viltrox 27 that is used mostly for indoor portraits, not street. But with street, you very often don't need f2 or even f2.8, but rather 5.6 and 8. Why f2.8 can be plenty. I have the 16 and 30 2.8 and both need to be stopped down to f4 to improve results. And for street work, that's plenty. On a grey day it might mean bumping the iso a little - not an issue with the x-t5 which helps out anyway with ibis. Nighttime... I wouldnt be using an f2 or f2.8 other than in emergencies. Zone focusing is the way to go. I've seen others complain about the short throw, but at f4 it looks like you're already more or less covered from 3m to infinity. So, why not stop down? At the weekend I was indoors with the x100vi (my pancake, compact and street choice). Worse, it was a darkened trampoline park. Autofocus just wouldn't lock on or fire even adequately. So I switched to MF, optical viewfinder so I could even see the subject, but sometimes I just shot blind. I had to use the flash, but found f5.6 was enough to capture the subject in focus every time or a subject on a trapeze swinging towards me. But not just in the dark, I'll routinely switch to MF when using for street. And it's got awful manual focus feedback with no scale - why the Voigt. interests me! Possible alternative to the VI. But with MF, expecially for street, you have to zone focus. Then even with a crappy focus by wire, you'll focus qyicker than any AF system. I'd definitly be frustrated with such a short throw using f2 under 3m a lot of the time - and especially at the mimimum focus distance. But at which point I'd be using all tools at my disposal, including aperture to make life easier. I actually found the AF of the 27 2.8 (old and new versions) quite frustrating. Not exactly a pancake, but the 30mm f2.8 is nice and compact and super useful that it focuses so close with reliable, super fast AF. Pity you have to stop down to f4 to get acceptable sharpness... But if that's not a concern, highly recommended for street and as a walkaround.
I had the older Fuji p27mm but I wanted one with an aperture ring. The Fuji was out of stock and subject to robber pricing on eBay. So, I went with the TT Artisin, which I found on KEH for a super price. I live in Los Angeles, so weather sealing is not an issue.
I don’t think it would beat it. From what I’ve read the X100VI is an F2 versus F2.8. It also has a leaf shutter and built in ND filter. That said, it depends on what you need, a fixed lens camera vs interchangeable lens. I haven’t had a chance to try an X100 since the S version and that was 10 years ago.
@ thAnk you.. I have 23mm and 35mm... now thinking about 27mm... do you think it makes difference or my 23 is good enough? I know it is silly question but still sometime wondering do I need 35mm then...
@ which 23 mm do you have the F2 or the 1.4? The benefit of the 27 mm is just size for me. I have the 23 and the 35 1.4. - and I find myself asking the same question.
I had the original Fujifilm 27mm but sold it and got the new version. I'm very happy with it as an everyday carry solution on my X-T5. I wish Fujifilm would make some weather resistant manual focus lenses that are F2 or faster: 18mm, 23mm, 27mm, and 35mm. Those could be used to make a nice street photography kit.
I just use the 23mm F2, It protrudes A little bit more. But is great for both video and photography IMHO. People spend too much time pondering decisions - just go out and have fun using your cameras instead. It does not have to be so difficult :)
Mhh - in Special for Streetphotography I enjoy the hard end focus infinity stop and zone focus. In contrast to the Fuji 27 mk II my results are much more reliable. In Special I use the Voigtländer for MTB Tours - here the Fuji did struggle much to often….
Hi Jackie. I use the TTArtisan 27mm f2.8 on my Sony a6000. And now I know that I can't upgrade the firmware on my MacBook. Well crap. This seems odd because so many creators use Apple products. I'm hoping eventually TTArtisan will remedy this limitation. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Jackie. I take your message as a hard earned lesson. You should know what you want from the beginning. What works for a youtuber or friend it is not necessarily the same. In street I never use autofocus. I either use zone focusing (but with the 27 it starts to be more difficult) or have it in manual and focus with the touchscreen. Otherwise I miss the shot. With the x100vi it is easy peasy. In general I am not happy with the Fujifilm lenses autofocus though. Either they have lovely character as the 23 1.4 or the 35 1.4 or they focus better but the quality is low like the modern 23 f2. The new 33 14.4 and 23 1.4 may do it all but they are huge. So after buying Fujifilm I am happy I did not sell my Sony when I need AF. The Sony a7cr with the 40 2.5 is what I think you need. I switched to Leica and I am happy with my manual focus and errors but do not follow me.
I really enjoy having interchangeable lenses. I owned the X100S at one point but ended up not keeping it. I’m very happy with my X-T5 and a few of my with character lenses. The slower auto focus does not really bother me. Actually I received the 27 mm WR yesterday and this copy seems to perform better than the previous one I had. I guess it is all a compromise.
I have the 27mm 2.8 WR and the Voigtlander Ultron. They're great lenses but f2.8 is limiting on APS-C and manual focus isn't my forte. I end up using my 18mm f2 more than anything even thought the images aren't as nice IMO
Thanks for sharing that. I just got the 27 mm Fuji WR today finally. I’ll be taking it out over the next couple of weeks. I have the 23 mm 1.4 LM WR and that is what I would use for low light situations.
Dear Jackie, I had to laugh, you are going through exactly the same process that I just went through. I want a pancake lens so that I can put my X-T4 in my jacket pocket. You expressed it correctly: what are your - your! - needs, not those of another RUclipsr. In the end I came to the same conclusion: I want autofocus, an aperture ring, acceptable sharpness and image and good communication between lens and camera. I'm taking the Fujinon 27mm WR. Thank you for your honest and friendly video, you can see how difficult it was for you to make the decision and answer your questions. I am a native German speaker, and I can understand your English perfectly (I wrote my "letter to the editor" in German and had it automatically translated). Thank you very much, a like & subscribe is a given.
Your video is excellent ! I've taken note that a few video channels join visuals or particular to boost engagement. Fair a thught that might be fun to explore!''
the cause of the inaccrurate exif data happened after the fujifilm fw 3 ....this happened to my voightlander 35mm 0.9 too. i did mentioned this problem to the fuji community last time but it seems no one even care or notice this problem
Thank you for sharing this experience and your insights. I bet practically everyone has their plans thwarted by wrong expectations or not-so-thorough sticking to criteria. My latest experience? I owned the Fuji X100V, loved it. Come the Fuji X100VI, and after some thinking I decided to upgrade and sell the X100V for what was a good price back then. Now - no X100V, and after waiting for many months for the X100VI (which I had ordered immediately) I don't have that one, either. (Changed my plans and focused on enhancing my options around my X-Pro3, instead, which was not a bad decision. But still....) Lesson: Don't jump until you can be reasonably sure you will reach the other side of the canyon.
Straight forward. Informative. No fodder. 3 things 90% of the photographers out there leave out in their videos.
Thank you for being real! ❤
Thank you for watching and the kind words.
I love your genuine, honest style and sharing. No pretenses, no ego, and no fake shilling for manufacturers, even when you feel a deep connection with the brand. I appreciate your discerning attention to detail and explaining the pros and cons, ups and downs, of your latest moves. Yes, everything in photography it seems has a compromise, with tradeoffs, some hidden and some clearly evident at the outset, and it is hard to know all the pitfalls when one makes an expensive lens purchase. Subscribed!
Thanks for watching and the kind words.
This is actually a great lesson and advice! Sticking to our needs and remembering why we're buying a lens. Usually, while we do our own research, we end up stumbling on different lenses and our own focus starts hunting back and forth, losing our initial interest in the process. At some point, we fall on the trap of going with something we don't really need because some reviewer said it's amazing. Maybe it is, for his/her needs. We should always make priority list and accept no lens is perfect and compromises shall be made (price, IQ, vignetting, size, weight, aperture ring, AF/MF, etc. ).
We got to stick to our priorities and accept we won't get everything out of a lens.
Well said. Thanks for watching.
Jackie! Thank you for making this video, RUclips brought me to you in recommendations after a long week at work. I’ve instantly subscribed hearing your gentle voice, even pace and wonderfully deep take.
All that being said, I love this lens! Just like you, it’s also what I needed, slowing me down with manual focus and it’s the perfect: “I want wider than my favourite lens (35mm f1.4 R), pancake and easy to keep with me on my X-T50”
I’m enjoying the manual focus and have been feeling passionate about photography again with a busy day job that sucks a lot of my creativity.
Can’t wait to see more from you!
Thank you. Glad it was helpful.
I just got the voig 27mm f2 for my x-pro2 I love it , but I am a manual focus guy for years now. I have a diferent aproach. I had the 27mm f2.8 its a great little lens. Happy shooting.
This is the kind of videos we need 👏 THANKS Not the stupid shilltubing we are used to out there from mediocre reviewers. Thanks Jackie.
Thank you!
I've considered all these lenses too, even bought the ttartisan 25mm f/2. But I'm just not in love with manual lenses (at this current point in time lol). I have been looking at/for this lens for well over a year but could never justify the over retail used prices. After watching your video, I started stalking the BH website again and luckily was able to snag the 27mm 2.8 the other day. It gets delivered tomorrow. I'm so excited about having a smaller, compact set up with AF.
I’m happy with my decision. That is so good you were able to get the lens on B&H.
The focus throw issue is a dealkiller for a manual focus, street lens. Thank you for raising it. I've only seen it mentioned in one other video, from another person talking about their real, on the ground experience as well. I have the 18mm, where it is slightly less of an issue, but even for zone focusers like me, it keeps you from changing your zone quickly without having to stop and look at the LCD (as opposed to nudging gently with muscle memory). But for 27mm, I have the Fujifilm, like you do. Separately, I don't think it satisfies your other requirements, but on the 1% chance you didn't consider it, you could adapt a full frame 28mm lens to fix the focus throw issue, but this loses things like electronic contacts, small size, no weather sealing, potential distance scale accuracy issues, etc. Finally, also want to second the other commenter's thought that when the time (and budget) comes, to consider a Ricoh GRIII or IIIx if it meets your needs at that time. So many of us Fuji shooters have gone that route when wanting to go smaller and pocketable. Appreciate the real, lived experience perspective.
Thank you for your insights and suggestions. Much appreciated. I’m gonna give myself some time to use the Fuji 27 mm and see how it goes.
First off, thank you for a no BS video. Subscribed immediately. Great advice here.
I am in love with the voigtlander. I find the focusing tab less of a problem when you shoot in an area that I'm familiar with.
I have the f22 issue as well though.
Fantastic lens, great IQ, beautiful sturdy build, but for quick street snaps, it can be w challenge
Thanks for watching. It is an awesome lens.
I got the Fujinon pancake 27mm f/2,8 with my pre-owned X-E4 when I bought it but I never used it much, because I quickly got the Voigtländer 35mm F/1,2 and then later the monstrous and insanely fun Voigtländer 35mm f/0,9... -However I recently began using the 27mm f/2,8 in specific situations where I think hit-rates without autofocus would be too low... -And it's such a nice lens and it renders pretty spectacularly I think, considering all the inevitable optical compromises made due to its size!
The 27mm Fujinon is definitely a keeper for me and I am sure that I will get even more use out of it once I upgrade to a weather sealed body, like X-Pro 3, where it will be perfect for street photography during storms and rainy weather!
Thanks for sharing your setup. I took the 27mm out yesterday for a photo walk. So far, so good.
I’ve had the Fuji 27 and voigtlander 27. I liked the voigtlander much more for the rendering but for a snapshot lens I needed auto focus. Like you said I forgot to check my boxes. So then I tried the Ricoh griii(three times actually) as like a small dinner on the go camera, but it was too wide to fall in love with. Finally tried the griiix and I’m in love like never before 😊
Thanks for sharing that. I’ve watched a few videos about the Ricoh but have no budget for a third camera right now. Glad you found something that you love.
the lens hood is very small and this is a significant thing for a lens like the XF27mmF2.8, has lots of sun flares
whose main advantage is its compactness and lightness. It is very well made and the screwing onto the lens is smooth. It protects the lens, especially when you keep the camera in your pocket and you could touch the lens with your fingers when taking out the camera. It also does its job as a lens hood with good results. I tried to test its effectiveness using a flashlight with a very narrow beam pointed towards the lens and measuring the angle at which the light begins to "brighten" in the photo, because the beam hits the lens and inevitably part of the light is diffracted towards the sensor. Without a lens hood, the light beam hits the lens when it has an angle of 30° with respect to the plane of the camera. With the lens hood this angle increases by 45°. It is not a lot, especially if you consider that the field of view of the lens is narrower, but to make more "shadow" on the lens without tightening the FOV, it should have been larger. There are larger and more effective hoods, but they basically double the overall thickness of the lens and in my opinion the main advantage of the XF27mm is lost. Some people complain that with the hood you can't put the cover on the lens, but this is easily remedied with a cover that costs a few euros. The front diameter of the hood is 30mm and in this way the lens is really well protected.
Good to know when shooting on sunny days. Thank you.
Merci Jackie pour ce retour d'expérience, perso je prendrais la TT artisans 23mm f1,8 auto focus, à bientôt ....
I have this 27mm Voigtlander lens. It’s an acquired taste, but I’m really enjoying it. I grew up shooting manual focus anyway, so it’s a throwback to that. For street photography, you can use a zone focus approach, and that works well. Just use a higher F stop and focus ahead of time using the focus tab and the distance numbers. The f22 issue is Fuji’s fault. I had no issue until I upgraded Fuji’s firmware. Anyway, I’m glad I have this lens. Its image quality is excellent. When I use it with my X-T5, it’s a very small setup that’s almost pocketable. The manual focus is fun once you get the hang of it. If you’re excited about this lens and thinking about getting it, don’t let this video put you off. Just know what you’re getting into and embrace it.
Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective!
I had the fuji 27 when I bought my xt2 as a used bundle. My intention was to use it for street. After some time, I felt that 27 was too tight for me, so I got the fuji 18/2, which is now my main lens for street photography (coupled with the fuji 35/1.4). I since sold the fuji 27, BUT decided to get the Voigtlander Ultron 27. The Ultron serves as my casual lens whenever I grab my camera to bring with me on a walk, errand, or meetup. The choice to switch to a manual lens was intentional, forcing me to slow down a bit and enjoy a different process.
I'm enjoying the 27 so much now that I'm eyeing the newer Voigtlander 18/2.8 pancake lol.
I can definitely see why you like the Voigtlander 27mm.
Jackie, your honesty is appreciated. I enjoy the experience of using the TTArtisans AF. I also enjoy using some of their other manual lenses, especially the 17mm f/1.7.
But for street photography I would never use f/2. Can’t see the point. All your street photography examples had everything in sharp focus.
Zone focus for my kind of street photography is just fine.
The Voigtländer is built around the fact that as you go away from the camera the depth of field stretches. Beyond 3m you have a very generous d-o-f. Anywhere beyond 3m and d-o-f is more or less infinite.
Thank you for sharing that.
@@JackieDElia, and a great video title. So many click bait titles are completely misleading. You’re right. Everything is compromise. The more you learn about lenses and optics the more you realise that …
I think we've all had this. I gave up waiting for the XF 27mm and bought the TTArtisan lens and it's great. Focus is fast and quiet, vignetting isn't an issue as most post processing apps can fix it. I do still keep an eye out for the XF 27mm though as it's slightly smaller and I shoot with an X-M1.
Good points. They have a used one like new condition on B&H as of this morning.
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@@JackieDElia Im in the UK, MPB have a few in stock.
@@DavidMBanes I was waiting for her to discuss the third option- the TTA. Since the video end has no satisfying conclusion, I wonder if she should have tried this inexpensive solution (or possibly discussed it). I love mine. Maybe I’ll get the Ultron as a nice compliment. i’m thankful to learn about the short focus throw.
I did mention the TTA towards the end of the video. The vignetting and the fact that I can’t update firmware on my Mac ruled it out for me.
@@JackieDElia I mostly shoot f5.6 or f8. Yes, vignetting. I keep an extra little lens in the bag to get down to f1.4. Good video, plus we all get something out of a good comments discussion.
I absolutely adore the Voigtlander. I have the entire range, except for the .95 Nocht. Focus peaking is essential--especially with old eyes like mine. lol--I love stepping away from the reliance on the computer chip/af system in the camera (except for peaking), and I loved slowing down my shooting pace. Was never bothered by the Fuji AF crisis of earlier this year either….just popped on a Voigtlander and I was good to go. Yes, these lenses take more work, and much more patience but I find them very rewarding in a way that AF lenses are not. I guess it’s perception and personal taste, but if you ever get the chance to pick up the Voigtlander 18 or 27mm lenses again, I think you’d find them enjoyable-I hope!
Thanks for sharing. I loved the Voigtlander 27mm, but just don’t have a budget for both. Maybe someday.
@ true…it was pricey…but it’s definitely well-made. Mine took a couple of tumbles to the floor…not a scratch. The 18 and 27 are very forgiving lenses too…the others take a bit more work. Maybe you can find a cheap used one on B+H one day…..
Thanks for video. Just subscribed - I like your honesty. I have the Voigtlander 18mm which I really love. However, I agree with you, I wish the focus throw was larger. That said, the 18mm has larger depth of field so focusing precision is less critical than it would be on 27mm.
Thanks for the sub! Good to hear the 18mm is easier. Hopefully I can give that a try in the future.
This is where the Nikon ZF shines, to be fair. It's SO easy to use MF with the excellent focus confirmation tools that are lacking on every other brand right now. If I was mainlining Fuji, though, I'm sure I'd lean towards an AF everyday lens for this very reason.
I’ve heard good things about the Nikon ZF. I would definitely like to try it one day. I do find the Fujifilm manual focus peaking tools to be helpful.
Try zone focusing!!! The best of the best have been doing it for decades!
Thanks for sharing that
The voigtländer is a lens that peaked my interest, but not quite enough to purchase. I like the focal length but it's not one I instinctively grab. I have a rather big one, the Viltrox 27 that is used mostly for indoor portraits, not street.
But with street, you very often don't need f2 or even f2.8, but rather 5.6 and 8. Why f2.8 can be plenty. I have the 16 and 30 2.8 and both need to be stopped down to f4 to improve results. And for street work, that's plenty. On a grey day it might mean bumping the iso a little - not an issue with the x-t5 which helps out anyway with ibis. Nighttime... I wouldnt be using an f2 or f2.8 other than in emergencies.
Zone focusing is the way to go. I've seen others complain about the short throw, but at f4 it looks like you're already more or less covered from 3m to infinity. So, why not stop down?
At the weekend I was indoors with the x100vi (my pancake, compact and street choice). Worse, it was a darkened trampoline park. Autofocus just wouldn't lock on or fire even adequately. So I switched to MF, optical viewfinder so I could even see the subject, but sometimes I just shot blind. I had to use the flash, but found f5.6 was enough to capture the subject in focus every time or a subject on a trapeze swinging towards me.
But not just in the dark, I'll routinely switch to MF when using for street. And it's got awful manual focus feedback with no scale - why the Voigt. interests me! Possible alternative to the VI.
But with MF, expecially for street, you have to zone focus. Then even with a crappy focus by wire, you'll focus qyicker than any AF system.
I'd definitly be frustrated with such a short throw using f2 under 3m a lot of the time - and especially at the mimimum focus distance. But at which point I'd be using all tools at my disposal, including aperture to make life easier.
I actually found the AF of the 27 2.8 (old and new versions) quite frustrating.
Not exactly a pancake, but the 30mm f2.8 is nice and compact and super useful that it focuses so close with reliable, super fast AF. Pity you have to stop down to f4 to get acceptable sharpness... But if that's not a concern, highly recommended for street and as a walkaround.
Thank you for sharing that. The 30mm f2.8 sounds like another good option.
Manual focus works very good especially for Street photography. I would suggest to learn zone focusing before buying any lens.
Thanks for the tip
I had the older Fuji p27mm but I wanted one with an aperture ring. The Fuji was out of stock and subject to robber pricing on eBay. So, I went with the TT Artisin, which I found on KEH for a super price. I live in Los Angeles, so weather sealing is not an issue.
How do you like the TTartisan?
@@JackieDElia It is very nice and performed to my expectations.
Do you think putting 27mm on xt5 will beat xt100vi?
I don’t think it would beat it. From what I’ve read the X100VI is an F2 versus F2.8. It also has a leaf shutter and built in ND filter. That said, it depends on what you need, a fixed lens camera vs interchangeable lens. I haven’t had a chance to try an X100 since the S version and that was 10 years ago.
@ thAnk you.. I have 23mm and 35mm... now thinking about 27mm... do you think it makes difference or my 23 is good enough? I know it is silly question but still sometime wondering do I need 35mm then...
@ which 23 mm do you have the F2 or the 1.4? The benefit of the 27 mm is just size for me. I have the 23 and the 35 1.4. - and I find myself asking the same question.
I had the original Fujifilm 27mm but sold it and got the new version. I'm very happy with it as an everyday carry solution on my X-T5. I wish Fujifilm would make some weather resistant manual focus lenses that are F2 or faster: 18mm, 23mm, 27mm, and 35mm. Those could be used to make a nice street photography kit.
Manual lenses from Fuji? I would like that too hopefully at a lower cost. Thank you for watching.
Have you tried hyperfocal with the Voigtlander? I have a Voigtlander 15mm that I can use with hf, although its hit and miss…
Sadly, I returned it before I had a chance to try that. I have the 27 mm WR Fuji now and I’m quite happy with it.
@ how do you compare the image quality and image feeling?. That’s what matters the most to me…
@avallejo I need to get out and shoot with it before I can say for sure. I’ve got images from the Voigtlander saved.
I just use the 23mm F2, It protrudes A little bit more. But is great for both video and photography IMHO.
People spend too much time pondering decisions - just go out and have fun using your cameras instead. It does not have to be so difficult :)
Thanks for watching
I have old version of Fuji 27mm and never bothered with it's noise. Outside, it is not audible, just in silent indoor places you can hear it.
Thanks for watching and sharing
Mhh - in Special for Streetphotography I enjoy the hard end focus infinity stop and zone focus. In contrast to the Fuji 27 mk II my results are much more reliable.
In Special I use the Voigtländer for MTB Tours - here the Fuji did struggle much to often….
Thanks for sharing.
Hi Jackie. I use the TTArtisan 27mm f2.8 on my Sony a6000. And now I know that I can't upgrade the firmware on my MacBook. Well crap. This seems odd because so many creators use Apple products. I'm hoping eventually TTArtisan will remedy this limitation. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. I hope TTArtisan adds support for Macs in the future. I would consider it, then.
Thanks Jackie. I take your message as a hard earned lesson. You should know what you want from the beginning. What works for a youtuber or friend it is not necessarily the same. In street I never use autofocus. I either use zone focusing (but with the 27 it starts to be more difficult) or have it in manual and focus with the touchscreen. Otherwise I miss the shot. With the x100vi it is easy peasy. In general I am not happy with the Fujifilm lenses autofocus though. Either they have lovely character as the 23 1.4 or the 35 1.4 or they focus better but the quality is low like the modern 23 f2. The new 33 14.4 and 23 1.4 may do it all but they are huge. So after buying Fujifilm I am happy I did not sell my Sony when I need AF. The Sony a7cr with the 40 2.5 is what I think you need. I switched to Leica and I am happy with my manual focus and errors but do not follow me.
I really enjoy having interchangeable lenses. I owned the X100S at one point but ended up not keeping it. I’m very happy with my X-T5 and a few of my with character lenses. The slower auto focus does not really bother me. Actually I received the 27 mm WR yesterday and this copy seems to perform better than the previous one I had. I guess it is all a compromise.
I have the 27mm 2.8 WR and the Voigtlander Ultron. They're great lenses but f2.8 is limiting on APS-C and manual focus isn't my forte. I end up using my 18mm f2 more than anything even thought the images aren't as nice IMO
Thanks for sharing that. I just got the 27 mm Fuji WR today finally. I’ll be taking it out over the next couple of weeks. I have the 23 mm 1.4 LM WR and that is what I would use for low light situations.
Dear Jackie, I had to laugh, you are going through exactly the same process that I just went through. I want a pancake lens so that I can put my X-T4 in my jacket pocket. You expressed it correctly: what are your - your! - needs, not those of another RUclipsr. In the end I came to the same conclusion: I want autofocus, an aperture ring, acceptable sharpness and image and good communication between lens and camera. I'm taking the Fujinon 27mm WR. Thank you for your honest and friendly video, you can see how difficult it was for you to make the decision and answer your questions. I am a native German speaker, and I can understand your English perfectly (I wrote my "letter to the editor" in German and had it automatically translated). Thank you very much, a like & subscribe is a given.
Thank you for your kind words.
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Thank you
@@JackieDElia welcome
I sold my Fuji 27mm, AF was too slow. I have the tt artisans, AF is better and its sharper, but flare isn’t good and no weather seal.
Mine is pretty snappy on the X-T5 with latest firmware. Just about the same as my 35 mm 1.4.
@ mine was on an XE4 so the newer cameras are probably better. The artisans is a steal for the money but shooting into the sun is problematic.
TTArtisan is definitely is a good option
the cause of the inaccrurate exif data happened after the fujifilm fw 3 ....this happened to my voightlander 35mm 0.9 too. i did mentioned this problem to the fuji community last time but it seems no one even care or notice this problem
Thank you for sharing that.
Thank you for sharing this experience and your insights. I bet practically everyone has their plans thwarted by wrong expectations or not-so-thorough sticking to criteria. My latest experience? I owned the Fuji X100V, loved it. Come the Fuji X100VI, and after some thinking I decided to upgrade and sell the X100V for what was a good price back then. Now - no X100V, and after waiting for many months for the X100VI (which I had ordered immediately) I don't have that one, either. (Changed my plans and focused on enhancing my options around my X-Pro3, instead, which was not a bad decision. But still....) Lesson: Don't jump until you can be reasonably sure you will reach the other side of the canyon.
Very sound advice. Thanks for watching.