Open sourcing the AI ecosystem ft. Arthur Mensch of Mistral AI and Matt Miller

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
  • Arthur Mensch, founder of Mistral AI, speaks with Matt Miller at Sequoia Capital's AI Ascent about his mission to bring AI to all developers, pushing for more open platforms and spreading the adoption of AI, as well as the balancing open source efforts while pursuing commercial opportunities.

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  • @Taskade
    @Taskade 2 месяца назад +1

    Amazing talk :) Excited to see Mistral in action in Taskade's next Multi-Agent update! 🌈

    • @Pankomentator
      @Pankomentator 2 месяца назад

      Bro compare avg salary vs avg home cost in USA 20 years ago with current situation. What do you see?

  • @jsfnnyc
    @jsfnnyc 3 месяца назад +6

    So much work being done right now. Jump in and swim or be left behind.

  • @kennyking_dt
    @kennyking_dt 3 месяца назад +1

    Great interview

  • @NickEllis-nr6ot
    @NickEllis-nr6ot 3 месяца назад +5

    Wow, Arthur Mensch is brilliant 💡

  • @EntropyPhysics
    @EntropyPhysics 3 месяца назад +10

    Releasing the weights and the necessary code for inference is not open source in the traditional sense, not sure why they are using that term.

    • @3ico592
      @3ico592 3 месяца назад +1

      Because they get the benefits of saying that it is open source with out being open source

  • @frozzzzz
    @frozzzzz 3 месяца назад

    very interesting and great humble personality

  • @palimondo
    @palimondo 3 месяца назад +56

    Open weights isn’t open source unless they provide full access to their training set and source code. In all respect to the capabilities of Mistral’s models, it is an extreme stretch to call company that’s dropping torrents of weight binary, an OPEN SOURCE. What’s the benefit of this abuse of semantics? Marketing tactic?

    • @seventyfive7597
      @seventyfive7597 3 месяца назад +6

      It's even worse, the illusion that they're open source may give them leniency against future regulation of AI, and even tax breaks. I consider this a dangerous fraudulent precedent.

    • @AhmedKachkach
      @AhmedKachkach 3 месяца назад +10

      Open weights is by far the most important part.
      It allows people to fine tune the model for their own applications (commercial or not), and allows anyone to run it locally rather than have to pay for a handful of private models.
      Open source would only benefit major researchers that can afford to train similarly sized LLMs

    • @quantum_encrypt
      @quantum_encrypt 3 месяца назад +2

      @@AhmedKachkach
      I suppose that in the ideal case, open source would include open weights. Furthermore, fine-tuning with the weights only isn't always the best methodology. The model can 'forget' (I use that term loosely), ideally what you want to do is have a mix of old data that the model was initially trained on + new data to ensure the model doesn't lose anything previously learnt etc.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 3 месяца назад +2

      @@quantum_encrypt Correct, you can mess up Mistral with just ~10 epochs of fine-tuning on a single example. It will "transfer" into examples not in the training set in an undesired manner. As a concrete case, consider training on "Q: What is your favorite fruit? A: Tomato." After a few rounds of training it will also start replying that 1. The favorite ANIMAL/PERSON/whatever is tomato and 2. The least liked fruit is tomato. It will also kill the ability to provide longer answers to similar questions. Etc. This highlights how having an unbalanced training set destroys the model. Rather than just incorporate the new information, as some may naively think, it also overwrites and erases the old information along.

    • @quantum_encrypt
      @quantum_encrypt 3 месяца назад

      @@clray123 Thank you! Great example 😊

  • @inar.timiryasov
    @inar.timiryasov 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow, Grok is too large for them to deploy. Interesting how large is Au Large then.

  • @RickySmithNow
    @RickySmithNow 3 месяца назад +1

    that was cool 🎶

  • @RukshanJ
    @RukshanJ 3 месяца назад +5

    Moderator need to remember the best questions can come from.the audience. Open up at half point

  • @socialexperiment8267
    @socialexperiment8267 3 месяца назад +2

    he is high? ) Mistral is best .

    • @VJ-lt9uk
      @VJ-lt9uk 3 месяца назад

      No, he is French.

    • @socialexperiment8267
      @socialexperiment8267 3 месяца назад +1

      @@VJ-lt9uk that's cool. I'm EU the same )) I love Mistral 4x70

  • @AmR-gu8zr
    @AmR-gu8zr 3 месяца назад +1

    Google deep mind should investigate on this guy.

  • @Haliotro
    @Haliotro 3 месяца назад +1

    Has that microphone been dropped on its head?

  • @joannsmith3589
    @joannsmith3589 3 месяца назад +1

    This French dude is hot... now that Elon is old, decrepit and looks more and more like his dad.... this Arthur is the new young musk.