Walking The Stairs ZZZ vs Genshin Impact vs Honkai Starrail Vs Wuthering Waves

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  • @ongamech
    @ongamech  Месяц назад +120

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    • @nguyenngwn7757
      @nguyenngwn7757 Месяц назад +3

      it's not possible to avoid feet noclipping into the stairs

  • @-z-9989
    @-z-9989 Месяц назад +3943

    Star rail one isnt even walking on stairs tho, them just levitate slowly 😂

    • @Alex-UM7GTE
      @Alex-UM7GTE Месяц назад +64

      Reminds me of the 3d era GTA

    • @Zevvy14
      @Zevvy14 Месяц назад +57

      and still got 5/10 lmao

    • @MrFern5
      @MrFern5 Месяц назад +44

      Yeah it’s clearly just a ramp hit box with a stair texture over top

    • @elina1271
      @elina1271 Месяц назад +51

      I love star rail but tbh 5/10 was to generous

    • @sylvyboi
      @sylvyboi Месяц назад +15

      ​@@elina1271 i was gonna say this lol. perhaps a 3/10 or less. no effort whatsoever

  • @resplandent
    @resplandent Месяц назад +2708

    Bro the WuWa rank was pure bias, you can see it's clearly awkward.

    • @shazamnegroid7379
      @shazamnegroid7379 Месяц назад +92

      Its better than walking on wedges. I'd say WuWa is second place simply because ZZZ does it better.

    • @SaraGon15
      @SaraGon15 Месяц назад +361

      @@shazamnegroid7379 how is better? look at how stiff the body is aside of the legs? look at the damn knees and those steps lmao not as bad as HSR but still bias as hell.

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora Месяц назад +152

      ​@@shazamnegroid7379man, the upper body is frozen, and the less stretch. Tell me, that's how you walk?

    • @feelthunder123
      @feelthunder123 Месяц назад +159

      ⁠@@shazamnegroid7379atleast in genshin the character model leans forward when climbing stairs though their feet are gliding but the overall posture is natural, as the guy above me said the upper body in wuwa is literally frozen
      Overall it doesn’t feel natural at all whatever way you try to look at it

    • @shazamnegroid7379
      @shazamnegroid7379 Месяц назад +6

      @@SaraGon15 Sorry for the long wait, I was muted yesterday for reasons I cannot disclose. That said. I do agree about Wuthering Wavings having stiff animations, however there is nothing wrong with the knees or those steps, its the engine that handles collision that makes it look stiff. As you can see, the legs try to attach themselves to each step, and that doesn't align with the speed of the character which in turn makes the character move up 2 steps at a time - the engine doesn't have much time to register the movement so it instantly snaps the leg on to the steps. On another note, I am not biased towards Wuthering Waves. In fact, it appears that the more I've played a game, the lower it is on my tierlist. Honkai Star Rail on the bottom, Genshit after, Wuthering Waves surprisingly second place despite not being able to play it with more than 2 fps and then zzz - a game I haven't even downloaded yet.

  • @zaindawood
    @zaindawood Месяц назад +1297

    no way you gave wuwa 8\10 thier knees look like they could break at any seconed from going up the stairs bro 😭😭😭

    • @hyomie2254
      @hyomie2254 Месяц назад +81

      bro is wuwa bias that why

    • @ILoveAnimeFemboys
      @ILoveAnimeFemboys Месяц назад

      Jinhsi especially 😭😭😭 leg crack every step 😭😭😭 I didn’t even notice these tho

    • @asdfsdfsadfasdfsf
      @asdfsdfsadfasdfsf Месяц назад +25

      yeah. the back also looks bad

    • @Zenitsu633
      @Zenitsu633 Месяц назад +4

      Fr 😭😭

    • @TTen-schir53b9
      @TTen-schir53b9 Месяц назад +10

      You guys are also biased towards the game you are supporting 😂

  • @Daivd1111
    @Daivd1111 Месяц назад +1093

    NO, Wuwa's movement is so unnatural, no upper body movement at all, even when their foot don't clip through stairs, they look like robots!!! 6/10

    • @akasahi9315
      @akasahi9315 Месяц назад +10

      But this is talking about walking animation, the physics on registering what's underneath the model.
      In WuWa, they actually bounce and step over. You should try it on a similar stairs as what's shown on Genshin and HSR and it looks alot better. Idk why the video creator used the big stairs, but if you use the big stairs in Genshin, it looks worse

    • @bruno_ist_mein_liebe
      @bruno_ist_mein_liebe Месяц назад +4

      1/10

    • @StickzDev
      @StickzDev Месяц назад +10

      That's because WuWa isn't using a separate animation for stairs, neither is Genshin or any hoyoverse games. They just use inverse kinematics to make sure the feet are properly placed in each step.
      I just think you're hating on the game because of your bias.

    • @OddC00kie9
      @OddC00kie9 Месяц назад

      Who cares

    • @owowhatsthis555
      @owowhatsthis555 Месяц назад +1

      legs for daysss, reminds me of cockroaches ngl

  • @beanssumang5560
    @beanssumang5560 Месяц назад +2933

    I wouldn't call wuthering waves have the best staircase walking animation... I mean, that look awkward even though their feet do really step on each step, but it just looks like skipping one step at a time.

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron Месяц назад +221

      Yeah, agreed. Its exactly the case of "technology over the art". Looks awful.

    • @srdeku
      @srdeku Месяц назад +118

      right? I thought he/she's gonna rate it the same as Genshin but WW wass slightly higher. kek. Rover taking the very first step started to look funny and then awkward.
      I think Genshin was ok specially with the upper half part (the bounce, etc.) and then WuWa almost did it right with the lower half (the actual stepping). With that I think they're both 7/10.

    • @lisamarieschnee
      @lisamarieschnee Месяц назад +134

      Calling it the best is another showcase on how wuwa glazers are completely blind to the mediocre quality of the game. No one bends their knee like how the characters do when they walk up stairs. Just look at how far the knee is from the body. 8/10 WTF?!?

    • @ilovepengins
      @ilovepengins Месяц назад

      they look like their legs are about to break

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Месяц назад +34

      It's got better collision but lacks physics. For me ZZZ does it best.

  • @sofarsogood8680
    @sofarsogood8680 Месяц назад +3395

    Wuwa's knees seems weirdly elongated . While ZZZ is the best

    • @pizzavert4020
      @pizzavert4020 Месяц назад +275

      The issue is that the stairs are way too big compared to the characters legs and feet

    • @sweetproject6337
      @sweetproject6337 Месяц назад +97

      He gave ww 8 But genshin 7 what?

    • @deeptobhattacharyya3249
      @deeptobhattacharyya3249 Месяц назад +127

      @@sweetproject6337 Genshin glides over staircase, what do you expect

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron Месяц назад +150

      I would much prefer gliding over the stairs if it looks good. Take a notice: only in Genshin character bend a little when they start walking the stairs. In WuWa, they don't, and it looks really unnatural as the result. ZZZ tried to make it better, but it still looks worse than "fake-it-Genshin-style".

    • @hoseki4031
      @hoseki4031 Месяц назад +32

      ZZZ feet still clips through the stair cases though, WuWa is "bouncy" but it has by far the best collision detection which is great for parkouring .

  • @cherryjoonie006
    @cherryjoonie006 Месяц назад +1188

    Genshins was okay.
    Honkai star rails characters didn't even looked like they are walking on stairs it looked like they are just walking on a straight path.
    Wuthering waves for some reason rover walking the stairs made me laugh tho it was okay okay.
    Z.Z.Z's was so far the best they were actually walking on stairs

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron Месяц назад +29

      In HSR, they just got lazy. Understandable: this game has been simplified in every way to maximize profits with as less effort as possible.
      In ZZZ, I feel like they wanted to make it better, but still made it look worse. The motion looks back-ass-wards, I don't know how to explain it: its like she lift the foot at the end of the motion instead of doing it in the beginning like people do when they walk stairs.

    • @oreo0sama
      @oreo0sama Месяц назад +32

      Tbf, the angle kinda favoured zzz.

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 Месяц назад +2

      ah true, if only the angle same PoV

    • @CsGalaxyID
      @CsGalaxyID Месяц назад +43

      ​@@atomotron Understandable. But still, its byfar the realistic looking one. WuWa got them goofy ahh leg actions. GI is acceptable. HSR has its character just float slowly (It feels more like walking on a ramp imo)
      I think a few tweaks in the motion loop and ZZZ should look a bit nicer

    • @oreo0sama
      @oreo0sama Месяц назад +2

      @@CsGalaxyID id say WuWa had the best,since it has proper collision and from the back(tpp) it looks good(but it does look real janky from the side), zzz had horrible clippings even with the favourable angle but had the best animation.
      Hsr non existent , genshins looks ok.

  • @RafelAlva
    @RafelAlva Месяц назад +604

    I feel like right now genshin looks the best. Their legs and body didnt move awkwardly, the leg dont randomly snap like wuwa and zzz. Althought sometimes it clipped through the stair, overall it looks nice and clean

    • @hobobrojo
      @hobobrojo Месяц назад +103

      Genshin feels animated most correct due to slight lean forward while going up, unlike WuWa and ZZZ which are basically vertical. Foot placement might be more accurate, but not the character's center of gravity.

    • @Steir12
      @Steir12 Месяц назад +47

      @@hobobrojo Genshin stairs are probably just ramps in disguise hence awkward foot placement. Animation itself is pretty nice.

    • @chiplienie
      @chiplienie Месяц назад +17

      Yeah in Genshin it looks like they’re actually pulling up their body when walking up

    • @Ookami-08
      @Ookami-08 Месяц назад +24

      ​​@@Steir12 I think the "ramp in disguise" applies more in HSR. In Genshin it's a stair but the animation was just for climbing a single type of stairs that's why the characters' feet clips through or that it doesn't have proper collision in each step.

    • @Gyuujin
      @Gyuujin Месяц назад +1

      same

  • @user-rizelthebaka
    @user-rizelthebaka Месяц назад +775

    1:05 Excuse me what? Best animation so far? Are WuWa fans actually that blind, look at their Knees bro 💀

    • @Starberry7
      @Starberry7 Месяц назад +208

      They’re in love with the game and have a hate boner for Genshin.

    • @user-rizelthebaka
      @user-rizelthebaka Месяц назад +116

      @@Starberry7 Bro istg WuWa is so fking Overrated and D-ridden. I never played genshin but i did play WuWa and quit it. Nothing too extraordinary tbh. Everything is quite similar to Genshin's and not only that they copied buncha stuffs from various games too. Like they never rly tried to change anything except the few combat mechanics lmao

    • @Starberry7
      @Starberry7 Месяц назад +78

      @@user-rizelthebaka it‘s overrated because it’s pretty much one of the only Anime Open World competitors to Genshin Impact and quite a few people have a hate boner for Genshin.

    • @LadyRoeanna
      @LadyRoeanna Месяц назад +26

      i genuinely think the only thing going for wuwa is gacha because that's the only thing that's better than genshin/hoyoverse imo. i had to quit wuwa because it didnt work on my computer or phone, but during the time i played it, the story just felt so similar to hsr. the beginning scene with that one lady (sorry idk her name) felt like kafka and trailblazer while the one with the cpr or something felt like trailblazer, dan heng, and march 7th 😭😭 I get it if maybe these are common themes in most games (especially the first one) but still, it wouldn't hurt to be more original. it's a post apocalyptic theme (iirc?), there's so many different things you can do story wise to separate it from genshin/hsr/even hi3, and it feels like their choosing not to. speaking of hi3, the combat system looks so similar. again, maybe it's a common theme, but still. i'd love a new gacha game with a totally different concept from things like hsr/hi3/genshin 😭😭 sorry for the yap session ☹☹

    • @sshk1653
      @sshk1653 Месяц назад +6

      They are trying to the stanky leg

  • @f2pgames420
    @f2pgames420 Месяц назад +339

    Even though in genshin the feet doesnt land on steps or sometimes out of bounds, the animation is so smooth and it feels natural unlike in WW and ZZZ the bending of knees kinda weird and the spacing of steps in WW is huge comoared to others. HSR has its own way if waliking in stairs 😂😂😂

    • @alwinchai9394
      @alwinchai9394 Месяц назад +3

      This exactly

    • @zekkekeipa6521
      @zekkekeipa6521 Месяц назад +18

      It smooth because tghs animation is not only for stairs. Its used on many steep terrain slopes in the world to reflect how difficult for a character to climb.

    • @coffeeenjoyer2847
      @coffeeenjoyer2847 Месяц назад

      because wuwa put the thing exactly on the feet to parkour and stuff

    • @2010ngojo
      @2010ngojo Месяц назад +6

      The forward lean is what makes it look natural. How often do people walk up stairs with the backs straight up? That's where wuwa and zzz fails in my book. Hsr isn't even in the competition.

  • @chihaotran1568
    @chihaotran1568 Месяц назад +171

    In wuwa the feet still phase through the stairs lol
    Also the animation is stiff af clearly biased rating lol 8/10 my a**

    • @dominickrecana2335
      @dominickrecana2335 Месяц назад +23

      yeah lol. that upper body is so stiff, and the legs? 😂

    • @bullettime1116
      @bullettime1116 5 дней назад

      both wuwa and genshin's climbing animation look like shit, hsr's is the worst of the four.

    • @TenchaSen
      @TenchaSen 4 дня назад

      The ratings, in my opinion, are all too generous. Both Wuwa and Genshin look awkward af. The animation on genshin is very lively, while Wuwa is more practical, which I prefer. But it's kinda giving uncanny valley 🙃

  • @laskann
    @laskann Месяц назад +419

    Wuthering waves does not have walking upstairs animation. You can see that their upper bodies behave the same as if they were walking forward. The walking upstairs is handled entirely through inverse kinematics, which is not the same as bespoke animations. It's basically algorythm that forces their legs to raise to match the elevation of surface they are standing on. Which is why it looks kinda awkward. It's obviously better than nothing like HSR, but I wouldn't call it best. If anything, despite being less precise, genshin's upper body movement matches the legs better somehow... can't belive I am complimenting genshin.

    • @yeeeze7461
      @yeeeze7461 Месяц назад +25

      Yeah gen shin upperbody adjustment makes it seems better to me, and altho both legs seems weird sometines with genshin with its clip and wuthering waves with its leg reaching too far that it skips some steps, genshin still got my props for this

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 Месяц назад +71

      there is nothing wrong about complimenting genshin.

    • @eightyeight2379
      @eightyeight2379 Месяц назад +62

      Objectively, of course, it's right to criticize and compliment a game to where it really lacks/shines. Take GI as an example, no matter how many people shit on it (gEnShin cOUld nEVeR, etc), it's still a great game with a solid playerbase of whopping 62M players logging in monthly

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 Месяц назад +32

      @@eightyeight2379 Exactly. They dismiss the good things because of the bad things. No game is perfect anyway.

    • @MoonLight-mf1fe
      @MoonLight-mf1fe Месяц назад +5

      On game said "the best *so far* " before they showed ZZZ

  • @Ryu-r4w
    @Ryu-r4w 25 дней назад +9

    Why do people blindly hate on Genshin these days at least give credit where it is due.
    Genshin clearly had the best animation out of them all lol

  • @vr4893
    @vr4893 Месяц назад +93

    Might be a bit biased toward wuwa there buddy.

    • @akasahi9315
      @akasahi9315 Месяц назад +1

      He's being fair. The only reason why Genshin's look better is because the characters don't actually try to step over the stairs. Basically the geometry collision on Genshin stairs are just plain straight and inclined, like an uphill rather than actual stairs.
      If you take a look at Genshin's upper body, it doesn't move at all. You only get that illusion that it moves, but if you cover half of their body or your screen, you won't notice if they started walking on the stairs or riding an escalator

    • @michealb8508
      @michealb8508 Месяц назад +41

      @@akasahi9315 my guy blind af right here

    • @vr4893
      @vr4893 Месяц назад +2

      @@michealb8508 no no he got a point. I mean he practically admitted it himself right? *"Genshin's look better"* and that's what we're rating here no? The overall *looks* .
      Can't seem to agree with your 2nd point though akasahi, they seem to be moving just fine on my end but...maybe that's just me.

    • @user-ev1pe2pr7g
      @user-ev1pe2pr7g Месяц назад

      womp womp

    • @thepieofyourlife4799
      @thepieofyourlife4799 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@vr4893
      I tried covering half of it, which is a weird idea cause what's the point in covering half of the object when we're judging based on visuals.
      But he is wrong, it still does move.

  • @Capn-185
    @Capn-185 Месяц назад +44

    WuWa makes their upper bodies look like uncooked spaghetti noodles

  • @SpellboundSpectre
    @SpellboundSpectre Месяц назад +350

    Fun fact, the stair hitbox needs to be smooth for walking to be optimised, but the way the characters walk is different depending on the character so they bend and clip a little

  • @Maruhodo
    @Maruhodo Месяц назад +303

    genshin with its clipping issues looked fine to me cuz the secondary hand motion (the waving arms) looks good, it's like there's a weight to it. also the characters are looking up. i think it should be scored higher.
    HSR = 0/10. i think they dont have a special animation for stairs, just regular walking animation.
    holy that wuwa animation gave me nightmare.. it's good but somehow very wrong, like some sort of uncanny valley. if they would just lean a bit forward and it'd be perfect.
    belle slouch a bit so it helped alot with the animation. She looked down the steps, and also the bounce is very good.

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron Месяц назад +26

      In WuWa, they didn't bend the character, that's why the motion looks extremely unnatural.
      Overall, I feel like they just made the engine calculate the feet and knee position without any adjustment. Even in Skyrim it was done better, although the same idea, but they at least put some work in it. But it still looks awkward sometimes. In WuWa, it looks bad ALL the time.

    • @Scarten22
      @Scarten22 Месяц назад +2

      Wuwa has big steps, it would be better if the character didn't walk in a hurry

    • @kostakonomi
      @kostakonomi Месяц назад +7

      To truly see what the genshin stairs are capable of look the eula stair walking on the monster camp

    • @neeevirus
      @neeevirus Месяц назад +6

      In wuwa it seems like only the feet are moving and everything else is stationary
      That and maybe the characters have a straight body pointing directly up instead of leaning which makes the center of gravity unbalanced (?)

  • @whisperviz1346
    @whisperviz1346 Месяц назад +75

    Now you know why it's called Honkai Star Rail not Honkai Stair Rail 😂😂

  • @investor9653
    @investor9653 Месяц назад +111

    I prefer smooth and natural movement like genshin , even they don’t step accurately on the stair 😊

    • @shazamnegroid7379
      @shazamnegroid7379 Месяц назад +7

      100% animation, 0% stair climbing.

    • @jyrl.0999
      @jyrl.0999 Месяц назад +8

      WW: 80% Stair Climbing, 20% animation

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora Месяц назад +8

      ​@COSMOGCKE 0% animation. That legs are nightmare inducing

    • @jyrl.0999
      @jyrl.0999 Месяц назад +2

      @@pontoancora for real

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Месяц назад +4

      Star Rail: 0% animation, 0% stair climbing

  • @Kyla8132
    @Kyla8132 Месяц назад +59

    I appreciate Genshin's posture leaning slightly forward though.
    The other 3 examples look so silly maintaining that 90 degree angle torso when their legs are going to town.

    • @sirmeowmeow7319
      @sirmeowmeow7319 6 дней назад

      they are waking on a slope with stair skin for genshin

  • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
    @GuyWithAnAmazingHat 25 дней назад +6

    As an animator, it is clear to me that Genshin > Wuwa > ZZZ > HSR; The difference between HSR and the other games is that it lacks Inverse Kinematics, one of the most important advancements in 3D animation especially for gaming. It was first displayed extensively with Shadows of the Colossus, it is the tech that allowed character's limbs to interact with surfaces, recognising they are standing on or climbing on them.
    When a 3D model makes contact with a polygon surface, e.g an arm, IK calculates the angle of the limb based on settings so that the limb looks correct, it also prevents clipping, enables heel and feet to animate in reaction to the ground, hands to "open doors" etc.
    Genshin and Wuwa has IK because they have climbing mechanics, which requires characters to recognise surfaces and interact with them, in this aspect Genshin also tops Wuwa because of better animation. You can see that while walking up the stairs Genshin characters actually shift their center of gravity over their feet, while Wuwa characters lean back, showing a lack of center of gravity and weight, along with janky knee movement, a result of lack of tweaking of the IK settings.
    ZZZ has minimal IK just for walking up slopes, which stairs essentially are, HSR just has no IK at all, so their limbs clip straight through surfaces.

  • @psyme-
    @psyme- Месяц назад +99

    How do you walk up stairs?
    Rover: BIG STEPPY!

  • @Megoover
    @Megoover Месяц назад +144

    Somehow WuWa looks even worse than HSR, i'd prefer no stair animation over that nightmare. ZZZ has almost the same problem, while being a little bit better. Overall GI was the best

    • @shazamnegroid7379
      @shazamnegroid7379 Месяц назад +12

      Genshit's was 100% animation, 0% stair climbing.
      Honkai star rail was 0% animation, 0% stair climbing
      Wuthering Waves was... Awkward but you can tell that the characters are walking up the steps, as scuffed as it looked
      And Zenless Zone Zero took what Wuthering Waves did and upgraded it - making it look more fluid and natural.
      Overall I'd say
      ZZZ - 1st
      WuWa - 2nd
      GI - 3rd
      HSR - sadly 4th

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora Месяц назад +31

      ​@shazamnegroid7379 no way, look at the ww legs, that's nightmare inducing

    • @MoonLight-mf1fe
      @MoonLight-mf1fe Месяц назад +9

      @@pontoancora Bro is so mad he replying on every comment that put Wuwa over genshin 😂 truly the genstan of all time

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora Месяц назад +24

      @@MoonLight-mf1fe Well, almost all comments are already pointing that ww animation is shit, so it was very easy.

    • @MoonLight-mf1fe
      @MoonLight-mf1fe Месяц назад +5

      @@pontoancora Yet no one says genshin has good animations either. Keep crying tho, I love to see it

  • @Teddy-wz9mw
    @Teddy-wz9mw Месяц назад +156

    Bruh how can you rate Wuwa 8/10 This problem has got me tingled as a first day player. The animation is so bad and their clothes are clipping during that animation too bruh😭

    • @entityglitch8429
      @entityglitch8429 Месяц назад +6

      You guys actually pay attention to this stuff? I was just enjoying playing the game

    • @Ookami-08
      @Ookami-08 Месяц назад

      ​​​@@entityglitch8429 I mean sometimes you will just inevitably see things like that in game even if you didn't intend to see it. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
      For example, when I was playing WuWa normally, I realized that I suddenly got dizzy out of nowhere. When I tried to move the camera and my character, I found out that the way the character jumps and the way the camera moves there is a little too clunky; it's like getting whiplash with my eyes and it made me dizzy.
      In Genshin, I was just exploring and was climbing the long ahh stairs when I suddenly noticed the foot placement is not accurate. I only discovered it after months of playing since it's not that noticeable esp when you're not paying attention to those kinds of things.

    • @StickzDev
      @StickzDev Месяц назад

      @@entityglitch8429 ON GOD THOUGH
      Instead of berating a game for something so small, criticize it for actual major issues in the game
      or instead just enjoy the damn game..

    • @kilanech6186
      @kilanech6186 Месяц назад +14

      @@entityglitch8429 nobody pays attention, but when somebody dedicate a video on it ofc the comments are going to be about it. Same as to how you're clicking on this video even though you don't pay attention to this stuff

    • @satanistka8119
      @satanistka8119 Месяц назад +1

      @@entityglitch8429 i wasnt spending much time at the sity n didnt completed the story yet, but since time passes i do pay attention to those details😅

  • @thaitoan4760
    @thaitoan4760 Месяц назад +93

    Tell me you’re a Wuwa simp without telling me

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 23 дня назад +1

      Genshin peds😂

    • @thaitoan4760
      @thaitoan4760 11 дней назад +2

      @@eavyeavy2864 said Encore and Verina.

  • @thomas_the_cat
    @thomas_the_cat Месяц назад +100

    genshin actually has the best one and more natural motions, aside from the feet missing the steps... wuwa looks like the characters' backs are too stiff, and the leg motions are a bit awkward ... hsr has the worst for sure because its basically normal walking animation

  • @startea0412
    @startea0412 Месяц назад +12

    0:16 casually steping on air

  • @oyshikaadi9631
    @oyshikaadi9631 Месяц назад +86

    Bruh WW one deservers a 6/10, not 8. Its hella unnatural, there's no balancing at all like in Genshin (Characters don't lean) and worst of all is that the legs don't even raise themselves to the next step. It just straight up teleports to the next height. It looks goofy as hell.

    • @shazamnegroid7379
      @shazamnegroid7379 Месяц назад +1

      The feet in genshin don't even touch the steps 97% of the time.

    • @oyshikaadi9631
      @oyshikaadi9631 Месяц назад +31

      @@shazamnegroid7379 In Genshin's case, I can give an excuse since its mostly designed for slopy terrain and rocks, and that the tech they are using is 4 years old now.
      I can't give the same excuse to WW. They are using Unreal 4, came out recently, and did a shoddy ass work on Inverse Kinematics full body animations. I would expect more improvements on a later developed game.

    • @drekhunter
      @drekhunter Месяц назад +1

      @@oyshikaadi9631 On a walking animation that's not gonna be used like 99% of the time? on an view angle that's not the usual one?
      I'll do you one better, how is it possible for ZZZ animation to be so sloppy for a current year game that has to animate like 5 or six sets of staircases due to not being open world and that runs the whole thing on a single character?
      The answer as to why ALL FOUR are so bad is because they don't need to be good, specially since I've seen what some people are willing to overlook when it comes to animations.
      "Robotically rotates 180 degrees and leaves doing a billion dollar worth applause emote"

    • @oyshikaadi9631
      @oyshikaadi9631 Месяц назад +16

      @@drekhunter Why are you bringing ZZZ here when my initial comment was on WW (and then Genshin?)
      And what do you mean by "animation thats not going to be used 99% of the time?" Have you ever played Genshin? 100% of the entire fucking game is walking on uneven terrain. Why do you think people keeps comparing WW movement to Genshin's? There are literally no areas where the terrain is completely flat apart maybe from city roads.

    • @drekhunter
      @drekhunter Месяц назад

      @@oyshikaadi9631 I dunno maybe because the video has a ZZZ at the end?
      You aren't walking on any of those games, you're jogging most of the time.

  • @Kokozaftran
    @Kokozaftran Месяц назад +159

    No way you are rating WW's as the best. Look how lanky and weird those characters move.

    • @nathanreed8281
      @nathanreed8281 Месяц назад +10

      They half squat for each step. It looks like what athletes do when they are doing stair drills...only super lazy. So, like...bad athletes I guess?

    • @dekirianto5853
      @dekirianto5853 Месяц назад +7

      It's zzz tho who the best

    • @hoseki4031
      @hoseki4031 Месяц назад +3

      @@dekirianto5853 you need to get your eyes washed, you can see that their feet is still clipping through the stairs, I would put it in the same level as genshin imact in terms of collision detection.

    • @dekirianto5853
      @dekirianto5853 Месяц назад +1

      @@hoseki4031 no bro I mean ON game rating zzz the best lol

    • @hoseki4031
      @hoseki4031 Месяц назад

      @@dekirianto5853 tf do you mean game rating we are talking abt stairs here, also wuwa has a better rating in china and on google play than zzz

  • @AsuraRaver
    @AsuraRaver 23 дня назад +3

    Zenless player here. Of the animations in this video, Genshin has the most natural going up stairs ive seen outside the clipping issue. I wish i could also see them going down the stairs as you only showcased Zenless going down stairs which i do like the animation for that but going up they definitely need more forward lean and for the feet to not look like they're sliding to the stair

  • @Someone-wr4ms
    @Someone-wr4ms Месяц назад +17

    I remember how once I needed to code something similar to a step animation for a university project...
    It's hard... like really hard... and the solution I found was probably super unoptimized as well...
    But to me, WuWa and ZZZ look super weird, It might be a hot take, but I think genshin nailed it the most out of these four, instead of focusing on the part most players won't be noticing, they added extra detail to the motion people would be paying the most attention to...
    going back to the project I mentioned, I ended up scratching that Idea, and instead, just lifted the camera upwards a bit when using stairs so that the feet weren't as obvious. sometimes the easiest answer is also the correct one

  • @user-rz9ve2it1s
    @user-rz9ve2it1s Месяц назад +13

    nah wuwa is lower than genshin. who walks up the stairs with their body leaning backward? genshin gets it right since the characters lean forward.

  • @atomotron
    @atomotron Месяц назад +91

    I don't know man, for me walking in WuWa looks ugly as hell. Sure, in HSR they got lazy and didn't even change the motion - characters walk as if they were on flat surface - but it is still relatively good to look at.

    • @miyan4velicz
      @miyan4velicz Месяц назад +7

      its just this angle, which we will never actually do in-game ofc

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron Месяц назад +9

      ​@@miyan4velicz actually, I do turn the camera all the time when moving, and especially in combat, to get better awareness of my surroundings.

    • @Anika9691
      @Anika9691 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@atomotronyou gonna combat on stairs!? Damn.
      That's funny.

    • @bendiver-r3h
      @bendiver-r3h 27 дней назад +1

      they probably went lazy on the stair animation in hsr because most player don't even walk, they just straight up run forever.

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron 27 дней назад

      ​@@Anika9691 in proper games, I do. Not my fault this game has to lock almost every battle on flat enclosed arena to make things easier for the game engine.

  • @IbbyMelbourne
    @IbbyMelbourne Месяц назад +7

    I dont know why, but Wuwa's creeps me out, they walk like weird aliens

  • @goooseywhorambles
    @goooseywhorambles Месяц назад +17

    something about the wuthering waves animation is unsettling, the way their knees bend so much??

  • @medihidayah9895
    @medihidayah9895 Месяц назад +16

    Why do I always feel so strange when I see wuwa characters climbing the stairs? 😰 Their feet seems elongated?

    • @elaine5556
      @elaine5556 Месяц назад

      They bend their knees too much

  • @user-oe1qs6tr8t
    @user-oe1qs6tr8t Месяц назад +6

    The rating towards wuwa was pure bias ngl

  • @rona-z2376
    @rona-z2376 Месяц назад +9

    i dunno, but in my genshin when my character steps on stairs feet stacks perfectly to the stairs, not floating like that

  • @discountaesthetic7165
    @discountaesthetic7165 23 дня назад +6

    Wuwa is such a buggy game

  • @thing4826
    @thing4826 Месяц назад +6

    Genshin 7/10, HSR 0/10 (no animation), WW 5/10, ZZZ 5/10. Can't really rate the games much higher when RDR2 does far better stair matching, I'd give it a 9/10.

  • @IthquaisChibi
    @IthquaisChibi Месяц назад +8

    Starrails animation looks like they are walking on an invisible slanting plane

  • @htet2002linn
    @htet2002linn Месяц назад +93

    Walking in wuwa? No no we run. 😅

    • @destiny_02
      @destiny_02 Месяц назад +14

      Wouldn't gliding be faster? Ehe~

    • @HaydenLycoris
      @HaydenLycoris Месяц назад

      ​​@@destiny_02enough with your scams Venti 🔫

    • @TempestNightmare
      @TempestNightmare Месяц назад +4

      ​@@destiny_02 Ehe!? Te nandayo!

    • @IfUSeekAndy
      @IfUSeekAndy Месяц назад +7

      You mean we run up walls 😅

    • @ivanteoh930
      @ivanteoh930 Месяц назад +2

      U mean parkour

  • @namiii8412
    @namiii8412 Месяц назад +34

    Wuwa body is just upright not leaning.. it looks weird. Like they only made legs and arms swing but forget the rest of the body

  • @ElliFong
    @ElliFong Месяц назад +32

    Fun fact because Wuwa is using Unreal so the way it was done is totally different from Zzz and Genshin, pretty sure unity engine already had similar function for characters climbing a stair
    I am not sure why it wasn't done for Star rail tho

    • @D_D_L
      @D_D_L Месяц назад +1

      Star Rail didn't do it to minimise animation storage, though the animation could be added back in. WW simply doesn't have it, they were only using basic IK to bound the characters' feet to the surface, like HI3 part one with that sht codes HoYo had.

  • @suleyman9199
    @suleyman9199 Месяц назад +9

    Admit it. Genshin has one of the best stair animation. Be it the domming-bopping descend or the im-bout-to-beat-the-shit-out-of-you ascend

  • @Arpin_Lusene
    @Arpin_Lusene Месяц назад +25

    Wuwa's is kinda like me trying to walk on wooden stairs without making any noise

  • @zh7k0
    @zh7k0 Месяц назад +7

    The only thing I see is that is hard to animate characters walking on stairs 🤣

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Месяц назад +2

      Animating characters walking on ramps isn't trivial either, but it's a heck of a lot easier, especially since the animation can actually tell the angle of inclination, where as for actual stairs, the ground is level at every point, losing that valuable information.
      In order to get things right, you'd basically need two separate models; one as a ramp to provide the slope, and one as stairs to provide the targets for the inverse kinematics.

  • @lordsofkeci4542
    @lordsofkeci4542 Месяц назад +6

    Wuwa's problem is that the upper body doesn't move with the legs so it looks like they stretching like their legs some kind rubber.

  • @kyuutatsu
    @kyuutatsu Месяц назад +16

    Wuwa was a solid 1/10, it’s creepy.
    ZZZ 8/10

  • @lucylu3342
    @lucylu3342 Месяц назад +4

    WuWa fans once again proving how biased they are towards WuWa and trying to make other games look bad for the 1000th time

    • @AniDeMax
      @AniDeMax Месяц назад +2

      It's always been like that with their fanbase. They always try to comment "Genshin can never" and criticizing the game 24/7 in their heads. The copium is crazy lol.

    • @mr.zhongli6886
      @mr.zhongli6886 28 дней назад

      Fr and it's make them more stupid than cool...I mean they just proved it

  • @wonnie3174
    @wonnie3174 Месяц назад +7

    The glazing on wuwa is crazy💀🙏

  • @slahser
    @slahser Месяц назад +4

    Notice how the ZZZ showcase is on a better angle 😂

  • @reesarts
    @reesarts Месяц назад +6

    wuwa's doesn't look better than genshin's, genshin characters lean forward to maintain balance when climbing the stairs which makes it 8/10 for me. wuwa characters' feet pass through the stairs as well when going up and their limb proportions don't look right which makes it 6/10 for me

  • @mihaelatrpevski3857
    @mihaelatrpevski3857 6 дней назад +2

    Wuwa looks so funny, if they just made their backs to go more in front like genshin it could've been better. Their legs look weird like they are detached from their body

  • @rahmansq6522
    @rahmansq6522 Месяц назад +2

    it sems like wuwa just programed to attach the feet on the ground, in any contour/surfaces, so basically it just walking animation. Genshin put more detail in animation, they lean the character body forward when the character touch stair, problem is the stair model is not humanly ergonomic, so probably they just lock the animation like that to mantain the movement quality, or it will end up like wuwa.

  • @Satya-tr7lm
    @Satya-tr7lm Месяц назад +6

    Didn't realize how the feet is always stepping on stairs because most of the time the player just running

  • @lonk7596
    @lonk7596 Месяц назад +4

    Is genshin the only one where the characters look up/down when going up/down stairs

  • @kong66158
    @kong66158 Месяц назад +2

    Zenless Zone Zero only has to animate 2 characters so it's easier. You can't see your gacha characters outside of combat 😢

  • @deceptionception
    @deceptionception 17 дней назад +2

    Was expecting wuva to be amazing ngl but after watching this, genshin seems to be the best one. Wuva and zzz appear to have that same weird thing on their legs in which they tried to make the feet placement too realistic by having a "physics" element since the feet actually rest on the stair/ground model which just makes it look like a spider's movement instead of just having an animation.
    Of course having a hand crafted animation has it's downsides as well but, no clipping aside, the most realistic one appear to be genshin's.

  • @DeadVoxel
    @DeadVoxel Месяц назад +8

    I feel like a problem that both WuWa and ZZZ share in common is, it feels like they're walking backwards and not lifting their legs high enough above the ground nor tilt their torso, which makes it look like the feet just slide up and get rubbed against the stairs. Or for WuWa, it feels like the characters lift up the knees a little too high, which makes it look like they're crouching and dragging their legs instead, while the characters' torso is completely straight
    Genshin nailed it pretty well in terms of movement, it doesn't feel stiff or unrealistic, with the exception that the characters are practically floating over the stairs or even clipping through
    HSR just wasn't meant for moving around as openly, it's more combat-focused and it's more about the story than the walking, so it's pretty fair that they didn't bother making an animation for walking up the stairs, especially since they would probably have to tweak a few things in the mechanics and the models. Most of the surfaces are pretty flat, so it's only normal
    All in all, these games did really well in this video, but they all have their flaws of course

  • @farikkun1841
    @farikkun1841 Месяц назад +3

    I still remember in GTA V when your character sprint/jog then met stairs, they will take small stippy step adjusting their feet to individual stair steps

    • @D_D_L
      @D_D_L Месяц назад +1

      Though it's not entirely ture. Those were individual stair walking animations. Good props to Rockstar for attention to detail in 2015, but it's not perfect, you still clip through stairs.

  • @discountaesthetic7165
    @discountaesthetic7165 23 дня назад +2

    8/10 for wuwa because the feet step on the stairs? While everything else is an entire list, glazing frrr

  • @thetrickster4899
    @thetrickster4899 4 дня назад +1

    People saying there's nothing wrong with the WuWa one have never climbed stairs in their life. Their center of gravity isn't even shifting along with their lead foot lmao.
    That's not walking on stairs, that's like some form of modified star high knees.

  • @esclipedaily8714
    @esclipedaily8714 Месяц назад +3

    WuWa has horrible stair animation. The backs are the exact same as walking on a flat surface even though people normally lean forwards or arch their backs while going up stairs. And who when going up stairs raises their legs up SOOO high your thighs allign with your waist???? They could've just done what Genshin did and it would've looked better. Like wow you added this for stairs but your game runs like shit on the first day, real quality work. (I don't play genshin I play HSR)

  • @Leo-gp1yg
    @Leo-gp1yg Месяц назад +2

    I'm sorry who TF walks up the stairs with their back straight.

  • @skirnchsh0rts
    @skirnchsh0rts Месяц назад +3

    here's my personal ranking:
    Genshin
    ZZZ
    Wuwa
    Hsr
    Genshin's looks more fluid and it ain't stiff Only problem is feet glitching through the stairs
    ZZZ is good, but the legs are suddenly snapping and feet is glitching through the stairs
    Wuwa looks very unatural and stiff, like who tf walks like that and the legs are snapping AGAIN and the bending of the knees looks very awkward
    hsr isn't even walking up the stairs, they are levitating through them.
    im not sure whether wuwa and hsr should switch places tho-

  • @onasis_tsuyoi1171
    @onasis_tsuyoi1171 Месяц назад +8

    8 for WW are you sure ?

  • @Insomi_
    @Insomi_ 4 дня назад +1

    I love wuwa and all but their knees look like they're gonna break at any given momey im sorry 😭

  • @brutaleranstand9376
    @brutaleranstand9376 20 дней назад +2

    Yeah the HSR movement on stairs is TERRIBLE... But it's Still my Fav Game of these ❤

  • @hura_.
    @hura_. Месяц назад +4

    my opinion:
    1. zzz
    2. genshin
    3. hsr
    4. wuwa
    ・wuwa is low because of the streched out knee

    • @Lucianox39
      @Lucianox39 11 дней назад +1

      Genshin is the first place, it feels more natural than the rest.

  • @XEROXAYUKI
    @XEROXAYUKI Месяц назад +20

    WW walking animation always looked a little less smooth to me compare to GI and ZZZ.
    But hey making this stairs animation better is kinda tough. Most AAA games also struggle to make it perfect

    • @WardLett
      @WardLett Месяц назад

      Out of every game that i played-- L.A. Noire has the best stairs animation.

  • @EmpinadordeCG
    @EmpinadordeCG 3 дня назад +2

    imo the WuWa is pretty bad, their legs move in a very weird way and the upper body is completly still, strange as fuck.

  • @noraxxez
    @noraxxez 14 дней назад +2

    The bias here is so obv its clear genshin makes the animation more realistic n movement since their animation is more bouncy than others☠️

  • @lazysoulff1194
    @lazysoulff1194 Месяц назад +7

    No wuwa character angle looks weird I still think genshin stair animation is best

    • @Ilovefood-wu3vm
      @Ilovefood-wu3vm Месяц назад

      I don't think so they look like they are trying to be Jesus walking on water but instead on air but just making it seem like the stairs are way too big and they need a big long step Z•Z•Z did it way better and is just better imo

    • @mr.zhongli6886
      @mr.zhongli6886 28 дней назад

      ​@@Ilovefood-wu3vmShut up Wuwa looks ugly just admit it

  • @kri1ndawn440
    @kri1ndawn440 Месяц назад +4

    Tbf there actually not many AAA openworld games with fully accurate stair walking animations that dobt look jank in some way. GI and HSR basically focused on the animation itself using proper body language elsewhere to make walking look somewhat convincing if you don't examine it up close which if Wuwa did would make theirs look more natural

  • @christensummers9641
    @christensummers9641 Месяц назад +1

    Wuwa’s characters look like their legs are breaking when they walk up the stairs lol

  • @Mhyiiiuujbg
    @Mhyiiiuujbg 4 дня назад +2

    WUWU LOOKS SO SCARY IT IS NOT A 8/10

  • @SignOne
    @SignOne Месяц назад +7

    imo genshins the best then its a tie between ww and zenless and hsr doesnt have stairs animation

  • @Arsaroon
    @Arsaroon Месяц назад +4

    HSR: stairs are upwards flat plain, no characters interaction to the geometry
    GI: similar to HSR but characters physics can moderately interact to the stair
    WW: just like genshin but it’s trying a lil too hard to make every steps land on the stair(results in weird animation)
    ZZZ: WW but more polished👍🏻(still can be janky tho)

  • @younot593
    @younot593 Месяц назад +2

    This is embarrassing for all games involved.
    Genshin 6/10
    ZZZ 5.9/10
    WuWa 2/10
    StarRail 1/10

  • @Astral_venus
    @Astral_venus 3 дня назад +2

    Idk wuwa looks abit weird and awkward and it kinda looks like their legs are up to fast and because it’s stiff it doesn’t look as good i would also give it the same as genshin since it does touch the stairs and clip less

  • @Sirindilable
    @Sirindilable Месяц назад +11

    IMHO WW is the worst here. So jagged and unfinished. - horrible inverse kinematics. HSR not even tried to make stair animation, it is just a walk animation with z axis movement. But even that looks better then WW.

    • @dsaasd-k8r
      @dsaasd-k8r Месяц назад +5

      Yeah WuWa should of just taken the lazy route like HSR
      They put effort into it but screwed up so it ends up looking weird

    • @ciaociaiaia
      @ciaociaiaia Месяц назад

      male rover looks like a fkng creep w that walk bro

    • @coralruler
      @coralruler Месяц назад +3

      it looked like they were marching up the stairs lol

    • @seraphoftheend5768
      @seraphoftheend5768 Месяц назад +2

      WW's legs look like they have a mind of their own.
      Like the body is just a cardboard cutout tacked on the legs.

    • @coralruler
      @coralruler Месяц назад

      @@seraphoftheend5768 frr, but they got good character models now. sad that they replaced the trash models from pgr with good ones in wuwa, but got rid of the good vfx that pgr had when making wuwa

  • @discountaesthetic7165
    @discountaesthetic7165 23 дня назад +1

    Ww looks like something from a fever dream..

  • @takodachi8283
    @takodachi8283 Месяц назад +1

    Star rail uses walking animation, nothing less, lol.

  • @schwifty07_
    @schwifty07_ Месяц назад +1

    wuwa's animation is literally me when the stair is too short to walk one by one

  • @lulyy
    @lulyy Месяц назад +2

    0:45 oh well, for some reason honkai is the only game that works in my phone lol

  • @dudewatdaheck1432
    @dudewatdaheck1432 15 дней назад +1

    what 300k views to see game characters walk up some stairs 💀💀💀💀💀

  • @crazypegasie9748
    @crazypegasie9748 Месяц назад +1

    I feel like wuthering waves looks like how aliens would try to imitate walking up the stairs. It looks stiff and awkward, and kind of wrong.

  • @whoisthishmm
    @whoisthishmm 9 дней назад

    Out of everyone, HSR's stair walk is actually just their normal walk cycle with the characters being lifted up lmao. Everyone else's actually have their legs bend in a way where you would if you're walking up stairs (with the exception of feet going into said stair though).

  • @sanchikotjendrakasih9138
    @sanchikotjendrakasih9138 Месяц назад +1

    "that is not how to walk through stairs".
    HSR: "rule made to be broken".

  • @CYB3R-7
    @CYB3R-7 27 дней назад +1

    anyways, heres the objective and actually unbiased ranking:
    #1 genshin -
    despite the stairs not having as much detail (the characters usually walk on grass and dirt when it comes to slopes anyway), the character model's animations are objectively more detailed and realistic and any of the others showcased in the footage.
    9/10
    #2 zzz -
    despite not being a game with that much focus on overworld, the character model animations are still very good despite being less realistic and more stylised. the character's slight lean and bounce really bring it together well.
    7/10
    #3 wuwa -
    the legs literally clip through the character's clothes. they put so many flat details on the character and the environment, but their animations could still use a lot of work in this particular regard. ofc, i understand that if they did try to do better without simplifying environmental and character details, any player's pc/mobile devices would blow up and you would need a nasa computer to run the game without crashes.
    4/10
    #4 hsr -
    there are no changes in the character model's animations. it is literally just the walking animation, with the character gliding up a slope rather than climbing. i do get that this game has even lower focus on overworld gameplay and zzz, so i get why they didn't bother. still, the lack of detail is still disappointing if you care enough to include it in a competition like this.
    2/10

  • @demonic_banshee
    @demonic_banshee Месяц назад +1

    I can't agree with you. Genshin is my favorite by far, bc their whole stance changes. The characters lean forward, look up and look like they're actually walking stair by using different muscles. Yes, their feet sometimes phaze through the stairs, but the animation is the best by far. Having their feet step on stairs is not important when the rest of the body looks weird, imo.

  • @pyrolipotsharbilt9918
    @pyrolipotsharbilt9918 Месяц назад +1

    Aint no way he said WuWa walking up stars is the best💀

  • @jshcalebchang
    @jshcalebchang 14 часов назад

    Look I love WuWa but if you walk like that on stairs irl you gonna fall backwards LOL

  • @TitoChinitoPH
    @TitoChinitoPH Месяц назад +1

    Genshin is the clear winner, I think. It has the most natural movement. They just have to fix the positioning of the feet. The Wuwa one and ZZZ still looks weird.

  • @fgojpnameme1175
    @fgojpnameme1175 Месяц назад +2

    1.zzz 9/10
    2.Genshin 8/10
    3.HSR 6/10
    4. Wuwa 3/10

  • @mimiyo3997
    @mimiyo3997 Месяц назад +1

    I'd personally rate it as;
    9/10 Zzz: Motions is perfect. it looks like an animation of a real human walking. Point deduction for clipping going up the stairs but looks perfect going down.
    8/10 GI: The motion is there, and you can see that effort was put in it. However, it doesn’t look as natural as Zzzs. More like they are marching up the stairs rather than walking. They also have the same chipping problem.
    5/10 WW: Very unnatural walking up the stairs. The movement from the top half of their body and bottom half looks very disjointed, almost like its on of the last few things they decided to animate, and it was lazily done. It also has the same clipping issue as well as the marching look issue to it as well.
    0/10 HSR: bruh, I love HSR, but even I'll admit that that wasn't walking up the stairs. It's just the characters walking while gliding up a slope.

  • @fyp1201
    @fyp1201 18 дней назад +2

    The characters look like habing busted knee cap walking like broken shadows goblin, 8-9 point fot them. Realistic where?. The bounce looks natural?. Where?. Everytime they step that stairs they looked like monwalking in reverse.

  • @Anton-ns1xj
    @Anton-ns1xj Месяц назад

    Камера геншина, вувы, zzz: плавно поднимается
    Камера вувы:⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️