I like and appreciate you comparing the rubber to several other similar feeling rubbers. It makes it easier for us make an educated decision whether to buy it or not. Hope to see more of that in future reviews.
I love this rubber on my backhand. I got this 2 days after it was officially released to replace the Sriver G3 on the backhand and that was a great decision. This rubber did exactly what I wanted. Banana flips are insane with this, active blocking is deadly with precise placement and picking up that backspin with a backhand loop is done with ease.
Karim Vite Thanks for the review. I'm curious what you use for the forehand? Tenergy 05? I was thinking of going with Rozena for both before jumping to 05.
I use the Sriver Generation 3 on my forehand. Sorry, I know Tenergy 05 and Tenergy 64 have become the benchmark for comparison but I have actually stayed away from Tenergy and not sure how to match the Rozena with Tenergy. I am a backhand dominant two winged looper who sometimes falls into the trap of playing an off- style. I figure, I need to correct that issue first before I slap on a Tenergy 05 on my forehand. I am not sure if you are familar with the Sriver Generation 3 but essentially, its a rubber with a high tension top sheet similar to the Rozena and Tenergy but it however has a classic sponge with a density of 38 degrees. This hardness is the reason why I have kept it on my forehand instead of the Rozena. The G3 has a high trajectory and combined with the harder but energy absorbing sponge, it allows you easily generate slow but extremely spiny loops. You can generate speedy loops with G3 by applying more force which I tend to do because my swing is usually hard with extreme acceleration for the spin. According to butterfly, the G3 has the same speed as Tenergy 64 and short on its spin comparison by just a little, but I think that is not so true. I think it really depends on the stroke. Technically, the Rozena is supposed to be slower than the G3 but as expected, the spring sponge really comes into action on passive and lighter strokes which is what I wanted for my backhand. With the G3 on my backhand, I often found myself having to swing to hard to generate some more speed and that's never good for a backhand stroke since backhand always tends to be more unstable to forehand because of the wrist action and this is where the Rozena came in.
All french advanced TT schools are provided/suggested the Rozena for their improving players. Since the change of distribution model for Butterfly France we moved to Gewo Neoflexx 45° which is maybe a tad slower but similar to Rozena and less expensive.
thanks for the opinion. Surprised to hear that. My daughter is 12 playing with Nittaky Fastarg G, the distributor doesn't have them in stock and I was looking for the alternative, Is Rozena any close in your opinion?
Seems like you really made it, Dan and Tom. Found this video on the Butterfly homepage next to their advertisement/product video. Stay true to yourself and your viewers and you will be happy in life!
I thoroughly enjoyed the review ...there were some nice comparisons there but I want to know whether or not this rubber brings out the "inner fire" of a player through its all-round offsets and less sensitivity to spin? great review a pleasure to watch as always
Even softer? Meh... Well, I didn't expect anything else when I saw the price. I am wondering why there is still no company that was able to produce a better rubber than Tenergy. Maybe Butterfly will wait until there's a better rubber from a different brand and then bring out an even better rubber series than Tenergy. The Evolution MX-P is ok, but it's not as durable as the Tenergy rubbers and the top sheet isn't as tacky. I could definitely play with these rubbers though. They are really close to the performance of the Tenergy.
GUYS, I HAVE A LITTLE REQUEST! I like your reviews very well. But could you guys make a review of Palio AK47 rubbers? With red sponge, in particular. Lemme explain. Since I live in a country like Ukraine, which doesn't have such stable economics, I can't let myself buy something like Tenergy. I don't even need it, I'm an amateur player. =) So I look for something similar. Most people say that this is a good chinese analogue of European tensors. Although, there's still not much information and video reviews. There's some poor reviews in Russian, but they're not so informative. I think a lot of English-speaking people would like to see a review of that rubber too. B.w., Vladislav.
Hey, I played with Palio AK47 before. And I live in Malaysia. "doesnt have such stable economics" is also normal here. Palio AK47 is a nice cheap rubber and a nice rubber to use. But you cannot expect it to be the same as Tenergy or somehow like that. But for its price, its really worth it. ( My experience ).
Hi table tennis daily. I know it isn't exactly your thing to do on your channel but do you think you guys can possibly do a detailed tutorial on advanced serves or shots to help someone like myself add something to their armory to give themselves a bit of an advantage over their opponent in a competitive game?
It's butterfly so maybe it'll still sell well given the name but I can't help but think people will be disappointed with this. So we're spending less and getting a more calmed down, less fierce tenergy. One, i don't know if that'll exactly sell people. Then you take into account you can get any of the Evolution series for around the same price or cheaper and still get that speed & power (MXP) or other versions if you want softer sponge, I just don't see where you'd go Rozena. Surprised after all these years and with the new ball Butterfly hasn't released a new series better than Tenergy by now.
I've tried both evolution series ( mxp and els) and rozena. Mxp i love the first month or so when the boost is fresh so much power so much spin, after that boost dissipate its very different. Els is nearer to rozena. In terms of power and speed, but rozena has that consistency and safety (still powerful and spinny) its really unique easy to play yet very power, don't knock it off until u try it. Els comes the closest to rozena in this sense
Dan do you think this is a good setup? Maybe still allround classic blade, but maybe want a more offensive blade. Fh palio cj8000 twoside loop bh: donic baracuda
Maybe a silly question, but what ball were you using? And have you compared it against Yasaka RakzaX, or can share a few thoughts if you see any benefits for changing it to the Rozena? Btw i play penhonld. Great Review, thanks!
question to all pros., i saw that they're using a 2.1 version. Is the 1.7mm way way slow? i want a lighter setup with the timo boll zlc. the 2.1 sounds heavy at 47grams cut.
From personal experience ive seen a couple players use rozena and struggle against pimple players trying to topspin/attack the chop/defensive block against the pimple using bluefire myself on the forehand i didnt struggle playing against a pimple player maybe due down to technique unsure but thats my exp
I did because I use t05fx on backhand and Rozena on Forehand on Jun Mizutani Blade. Rozena is spinier and faster than t05fx but the curve trajectory of Rozena is lower than 05fx. Rozena is also spinier than t05. Rozena speed is right in between 05 and 05fx
Im the complete opposite I have wonderful footwork nd only good technique for forehand loop and backhand flick serves are bad BT still im very smart so as long as I get average spin ders der no problem
Mastro Games Don't have the time and I started too late... 11. I'm only thirteen now but no way will I be a world champion so I might try my best Tao be a state player, I'm Australian btw
We wanted to launch this review as soon as possible. Tom lives far from the Studio so can be tricky from a time/distance point of view. This is a club near Tom which we have done many of our reviews in :)
Buy the Rozena if you want more control but still want to play fast paste buy the Tenergy 05 if you want a more explosive shot every time but you have to remember that you need a good technique cauze you have less control because of the explosiveness it comes faster of your bat. Have a Nice Day😃
I have the mark 5 right now and wanted a tenergy 5 because I like fast rubbers but sometimes I have truffle returning serves and certain spins, do u think the rozena would be good for me? Also what sponge thickness do u recommend and what is the difference between a 2.1mm and a 1.9mm? Thanks
How can a rubber with 34° sponge hardness be a medium-hard rubber although Andro's Rasant Beat has a sponge hardness of 37,5° and it' considered a soft rubber? Please explain I am massively confused
you guys really think the majority of the quality of play comes from the rubber or material? I think it comes more from the technique and skill player has..
Seriously? Is 35º hardness rubbers for you a medium-hard rubber? What about for example donic bluefire M1 which is 45º or even harder rubbers like DHS hurricane 3 neo? (39º in chinese scale = 52º)
Rozena is great for beginner to intermediates as its spin insensitive. However, the downside is it feels much like a dead rubber and doesn't feel enjoyable to play with. It also doesn't help you develop your spin touch so will inhibit long term learning.
@@aerotus888 thank you for your answer! Would you recommend it on fh or bh? I quite often heard of the combination rakza 7 fh and rakza 7 soft bh. I'm playing a FZD ALC (same composition as viscaria). Do you think it would be a great fit?
@@aerotus888 thanks for your recommendation! I will try it out, after my current Rozena rubbers (which I'm really happy with) are worn out a little. Also planning to try out Fastarc g-1.
if you dont get discounts from teessports just buy tenergy or rozena from ttex.com. It is way cheaper and the delivery is the same. Its from Sweden and it comes nearly faster then from teessports lmao
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Excellent work Dan, comparing it with different rubbers gives a far broader perspective.
Thanks Jaffer, Awesome! 👊🏓
I like and appreciate you comparing the rubber to several other similar feeling rubbers. It makes it easier for us make an educated decision whether to buy it or not. Hope to see more of that in future reviews.
I love this rubber on my backhand. I got this 2 days after it was officially released to replace the Sriver G3 on the backhand and that was a great decision. This rubber did exactly what I wanted. Banana flips are insane with this, active blocking is deadly with precise placement and picking up that backspin with a backhand loop is done with ease.
Karim Vite Thanks for the review. I'm curious what you use for the forehand? Tenergy 05? I was thinking of going with Rozena for both before jumping to 05.
I use the Sriver Generation 3 on my forehand. Sorry, I know Tenergy 05 and Tenergy 64 have become the benchmark for comparison but I have actually stayed away from Tenergy and not sure how to match the Rozena with Tenergy. I am a backhand dominant two winged looper who sometimes falls into the trap of playing an off- style. I figure, I need to correct that issue first before I slap on a Tenergy 05 on my forehand.
I am not sure if you are familar with the Sriver Generation 3 but essentially, its a rubber with a high tension top sheet similar to the Rozena and Tenergy but it however has a classic sponge with a density of 38 degrees. This hardness is the reason why I have kept it on my forehand instead of the Rozena. The G3 has a high trajectory and combined with the harder but energy absorbing sponge, it allows you easily generate slow but extremely spiny loops. You can generate speedy loops with G3 by applying more force which I tend to do because my swing is usually hard with extreme acceleration for the spin.
According to butterfly, the G3 has the same speed as Tenergy 64 and short on its spin comparison by just a little, but I think that is not so true. I think it really depends on the stroke. Technically, the Rozena is supposed to be slower than the G3 but as expected, the spring sponge really comes into action on passive and lighter strokes which is what I wanted for my backhand. With the G3 on my backhand, I often found myself having to swing to hard to generate some more speed and that's never good for a backhand stroke since backhand always tends to be more unstable to forehand because of the wrist action and this is where the Rozena came in.
i love the backhand 2 on this rubber
All french advanced TT schools are provided/suggested the Rozena for their improving players.
Since the change of distribution model for Butterfly France we moved to Gewo Neoflexx 45° which is maybe a tad slower but similar to Rozena and less expensive.
thanks for the opinion. Surprised to hear that. My daughter is 12 playing with Nittaky Fastarg G, the distributor doesn't have them in stock and I was looking for the alternative, Is Rozena any close in your opinion?
@@alexandervarna8085 no, rozena is much faster than G1
@@Waingro808 Bro g1 is a high end rubber comparable to the t05 😂you have to be good enough to get the speed from it tho
Seems like you really made it, Dan and Tom. Found this video on the Butterfly homepage next to their advertisement/product video. Stay true to yourself and your viewers and you will be happy in life!
I thoroughly enjoyed the review ...there were some nice comparisons there but I want to know whether or not this rubber brings out the "inner fire" of a player through its all-round offsets and less sensitivity to spin? great review a pleasure to watch as always
One of The best reviews by far, thanks guys
I just switched to Rozena for my forehand rubber. It produces ample topspin with a great sense of control.
May i know From which rubber u switched to rozena. The rubber is still durable?
Can you also do a review on Butterfly SK carbon blade?
I play with Rozena,black rubber 2,1 for my for hand and red rubber 2,1 for my back hand with Viscaria blade just amazing and exploded game 🇬🇧🏓🇭🇺!
Hi i also play the viscaria FL and Rozena on my forehand i tried the new Joola Rhyzen ICE but i think Rozena is top on the viscaria
Tom has powerful backhand shots! They look so fast in this video
Even softer? Meh... Well, I didn't expect anything else when I saw the price. I am wondering why there is still no company that was able to produce a better rubber than Tenergy. Maybe Butterfly will wait until there's a better rubber from a different brand and then bring out an even better rubber series than Tenergy. The Evolution MX-P is ok, but it's not as durable as the Tenergy rubbers and the top sheet isn't as tacky. I could definitely play with these rubbers though. They are really close to the performance of the Tenergy.
IMO Rozena is a perfectly suitable rubber for any player from 2nd national league to lower leagues levels.
The price tag is still reasonable though.
What's bluefire tested? M1? M2? M3? Jp01? Jp02? Jp03? Big slam? Jp01 turbo? M1 turbo?
I have the same question.
I guess it's M2 considering the sponge hardness of Rozena.
11:44 nice switch to left hand 😁
Haha Tom always gets a switch hand shot in somewhere! :D
I was like wait... _what?_
GUYS, I HAVE A LITTLE REQUEST!
I like your reviews very well. But could you guys make a review of Palio AK47 rubbers? With red sponge, in particular. Lemme explain.
Since I live in a country like Ukraine, which doesn't have such stable economics, I can't let myself buy something like Tenergy. I don't even need it, I'm an amateur player. =) So I look for something similar.
Most people say that this is a good chinese analogue of European tensors. Although, there's still not much information and video reviews. There's some poor reviews in Russian, but they're not so informative. I think a lot of English-speaking people would like to see a review of that rubber too.
B.w.,
Vladislav.
Hey, I played with Palio AK47 before. And I live in Malaysia. "doesnt have such stable economics" is also normal here. Palio AK47 is a nice cheap rubber and a nice rubber to use. But you cannot expect it to be the same as Tenergy or somehow like that. But for its price, its really worth it. ( My experience ).
hey dan, 2 questions: what is your experience in blocking with chinese rubbers ? and could you please review the legendary hurricane 3 neo ?
blue storm and aurus prime review soon?
Rozena vs. Tenergy 80?
Which one's better do you think?
quad 2304 better for who?:)
For better player t80 is better ,
for lower player rozena is better
How would Rozena compare against the FX version of Tenergy 05?
Hi table tennis daily. I know it isn't exactly your thing to do on your channel but do you think you guys can possibly do a detailed tutorial on advanced serves or shots to help someone like myself add something to their armory to give themselves a bit of an advantage over their opponent in a competitive game?
Dan awesome video!!!!
nice review. What about serve and receive, and passive shots like blocking?
Very helpful information. Thank you!
It's butterfly so maybe it'll still sell well given the name but I can't help but think people will be disappointed with this. So we're spending less and getting a more calmed down, less fierce tenergy. One, i don't know if that'll exactly sell people. Then you take into account you can get any of the Evolution series for around the same price or cheaper and still get that speed & power (MXP) or other versions if you want softer sponge, I just don't see where you'd go Rozena. Surprised after all these years and with the new ball Butterfly hasn't released a new series better than Tenergy by now.
Soper79 well said
I've tried both evolution series ( mxp and els) and rozena. Mxp i love the first month or so when the boost is fresh so much power so much spin, after that boost dissipate its very different. Els is nearer to rozena. In terms of power and speed, but rozena has that consistency and safety (still powerful and spinny) its really unique easy to play yet very power, don't knock it off until u try it. Els comes the closest to rozena in this sense
Hello , will you guys do the xiom vega zlc series review : )?
Can you be able to do a review with Butterfly Impartial XB? I want to see how much spin does the ball remain when blocking
Tom do you think this rubber is still worth it? And keep the good work going
Dan do you think this is a good setup? Maybe still allround classic blade, but maybe want a more offensive blade. Fh palio cj8000 twoside loop bh: donic baracuda
nice review guys,keep it up! btw, what are you guys use for regular equipments? and who has the spinniest topspin ball between you two?
will this be good for RPB? I use stiga clipper cr non-wrb
I am currently using yasaka mark v
which rubbers is Tom using in this review? Still Stiga Genesis M?
Is your shop international
Ağır çekim videolar güzel olmuş, 😊
Maybe a silly question, but what ball were you using? And have you compared it against Yasaka RakzaX, or can share a few thoughts if you see any benefits for changing it to the Rozena? Btw i play penhonld.
Great Review, thanks!
What is easier to play. Vega Pro or Rozena? Don't want to make a to high step and not being able to control my blade.
Great review. Rasanter next please
question to all pros., i saw that they're using a 2.1 version. Is the 1.7mm way way slow? i want a lighter setup with the timo boll zlc. the 2.1 sounds heavy at 47grams cut.
Tom with the hand switch point! 11:46
Haha Tom loves a good old swap hand shot!
What sponge thickness were you using ?
It looks like 2.1 in the intro - printed on the backside - but it is quite hard to see.
Rozena or Aibiss ?
Please make a review also of the new Rasanter R42, R47, R50. Thank you :)
On it's way! :)
does the rozena have more spin than the rasant beat?
Yes
From personal experience ive seen a couple players use rozena and struggle against pimple players trying to topspin/attack the chop/defensive block against the pimple using bluefire myself on the forehand i didnt struggle playing against a pimple player maybe due down to technique unsure but thats my exp
Where did you buy your red flooring? I'm looking to buy some.
My rubber backhand with viscaria blade
i was wondering how was the serve did it stay as spinning as before or less with this rubber
Is rozena still worth buying in 2023 for intermediate players?
yes! it's my first decent setup after a yeaor of training. viscaria fl + double rozena. I am as happy as an elephant now
@@tchevengour8345 man, I bought recently this rubber, do you know if has a good spin like in backhand flick or other things like away from the table)?
I want to know what equipment the taller guy is using in this video
did you test it in comparison with t05fx?
That would be interesting, since both might have similar hardness!
I did because I use t05fx on backhand and Rozena on Forehand on Jun Mizutani Blade.
Rozena is spinier and faster than t05fx but the curve trajectory of Rozena is lower than 05fx.
Rozena is also spinier than t05.
Rozena speed is right in between 05 and 05fx
Should I upgrade to this on my backhand from a donic sonex jp gold?
Thanks you for information review
Am I able to play it even if I have a bad footwork? I have the best technique in my area so that is one point but I only lack of speed with footwork.
This is exactly what my coach told me.. I have got the most spin and best serves but i am lazy to get the ball.
Im the complete opposite I have wonderful footwork nd only good technique for forehand loop and backhand flick serves are bad BT still im very smart so as long as I get average spin ders der no problem
Mastro Games I wish I had the skills and footwork of Ma Long...
hardwork is needed
Mastro Games Don't have the time and I started too late... 11. I'm only thirteen now but no way will I be a world champion so I might try my best Tao be a state player, I'm Australian btw
Can you do a review of Stiga celero eood
What can you say about butterfly sriver g3 fx?
Awesome a review that tells you the weakness of the product
Can't decide for backhand. Butterfly rozena or xiom vega asia
The Rosena little bit same like Donic Bluefire M2?
pls provide a review of fastarc g1 pls as ppl say its really good but i really dont know if i should buy it or not
How vs rakza 7 ?
Simply love your channel dude, but you are the William Shattner of tabletennis :D
Hi is the rozena a cheap tenergy then?
He mentions that Rozena is going to be about 20% cheaper than Tenergy.
The Ginger Ninja here the Rozena cost 44,90€ compared to the 56,90€ of the 05
Nice to see companies being considerate to mid-tier players. BTW Dan plays exactly like Timo!
Is there any diffrence in rozena 2017 and 2024
Hitting those fan zhendong flicks :p
How come you guys arnt reviewing this rubber in your new ttd studio?
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We wanted to launch this review as soon as possible. Tom lives far from the Studio so can be tricky from a time/distance point of view. This is a club near Tom which we have done many of our reviews in :)
Fair enough :)
Please review DHS GOLD ARC 5
I am a intermediate player more of a topspin kind, should I buy the tenergy 05 or rozena
Buy the Rozena if you want more control but still want to play fast paste buy the Tenergy 05 if you want a more explosive shot every time but you have to remember that you need a good technique cauze you have less control because of the explosiveness it comes faster of your bat.
Have a Nice Day😃
can review Dhs power g15 or g5 with hurricane 3 rubber ? pls
what abot choping with rozena? is good? stable?
I have the mark 5 right now and wanted a tenergy 5 because I like fast rubbers but sometimes I have truffle returning serves and certain spins, do u think the rozena would be good for me? Also what sponge thickness do u recommend and what is the difference between a 2.1mm and a 1.9mm?
Thanks
Looks like very suitable weapon
Can you review some.Yasaka products like Ma Lin Soft Carbon or Rising Dragon.
rising dragon vs shining dragon plz!"!!!!
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I use rising dragon if you want to know
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Ternegy or Rozena?
make a review of Timo Boll CAF pleasee!
How can a rubber with 34° sponge hardness be a medium-hard rubber although Andro's Rasant Beat has a sponge hardness of 37,5° and it' considered a soft rubber? Please explain I am massively confused
Different hardness scales maybe
Review the acuda s1 turbo
you guys really think the majority of the quality of play comes from the rubber or material? I think it comes more from the technique and skill player has..
it's the old studio.
Can you demonstrate how you glued the Rozena for this demo...? (Brand name of glue and process)
Alle belag sind super? (:
Ich brauche vorteile,und auch nachteile....
Nice rubber¡¡¡
Hows the control of this rubber?
Pretty decent
Sounds like they are playing with steel blades
Found something similar to this rubber - 'Sanwei Tiaji' with pink sponge. It sells for around $12 in AliExpress.
I think tenergy05 are the best
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OMG 2:19 - 2:40! What a rally!!!
Seriously? Is 35º hardness rubbers for you a medium-hard rubber? What about for example donic bluefire M1 which is 45º or even harder rubbers like DHS hurricane 3 neo? (39º in chinese scale = 52º)
I think i'ts not 35* because for tenergy to he said i'ts 36 degrees hardeness but in others videos we can see tenergy are about 43 deegres hardness
Rozena is great for beginner to intermediates as its spin insensitive. However, the downside is it feels much like a dead rubber and doesn't feel enjoyable to play with. It also doesn't help you develop your spin touch so will inhibit long term learning.
Which would be a better rubber in that regard?
@@MrMagJon I'd highly recommend Rakza 7 in 1.8mm or 2mm. Nicely spinny, quite light and very controllable!
@@aerotus888 thank you for your answer! Would you recommend it on fh or bh? I quite often heard of the combination rakza 7 fh and rakza 7 soft bh. I'm playing a FZD ALC (same composition as viscaria). Do you think it would be a great fit?
@@MrMagJon works great fh and bh to be honest! For your stiff blade use 2.0mm. Otherwise it will bottom out. Good luck!
@@aerotus888 thanks for your recommendation! I will try it out, after my current Rozena rubbers (which I'm really happy with) are worn out a little. Also planning to try out Fastarc g-1.
Can you review dhs hurricrane 3 neo national, thanks you.
It's not better than esn rubber.. I will choose old fastarc g-1.. I use this rubber for 3days.. not for advanced player..
So this thing gives about 80% of Tenergy's performance while being half the price ? Ill take it.
if you dont get discounts from teessports just buy tenergy or rozena from ttex.com. It is way cheaper and the delivery is the same. Its from Sweden and it comes nearly faster then from teessports lmao
Germans are unable to show TT material-tests....!
Gostei do treino mas gostaria de ter legenda em português
Ok amazing boss
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