I’m debating whether I should turn this into a full video and do the entire piano. Theory people, what chords makes sense tuning it to? Keep in mind the bass section only has two strings so it can only be done on 2/3 of piano
It wouldn't make sense to tune the entire piano like that because otherwise you wouldn't be able to play a melody, but the middle-low section you could 😂 (even the two-strung notes could be tuned as intervals of fifths for example but you should check how it sounds of course)
You could just stick with the chords in the C major scale, and use your black keys to make the C# major scale utilizing all of the keys. And giving you A and A# minor. Also you should tune your bass section to fifths! Edit: now that I think about it fifths instead of just octaves for the bass section would make split chords terrible, but it would be fine to just never play them 😂 *OH also if you want to go really bananas with it you could instead tune all of your black keys to your 7th chords of c major instead! 😀
I really want to see people start tuning some pianos like this and start composing for it. It basically turns a standard piano into a whole new instrument!
@@osmacar5331 new instrument perhaps not, but the scaling and chords are however entirely new. Im no music theorist or compiser so im definitely lacking on proper nomenclature.
1. Definitely do a full piano 2. Consult with a jazz musician or jazz RUclipsr on what notes to tune the strings to - I'm sure they would have great ideas!
@@jordankerr1 Every string has a different 'thickness' for every particular note, so tuning a C string higher to a G can easily break it; even today in our modern times physics stay the same Mr. Kerr.
@@fedegwagwaActually, if several strings are tuned to the same note it leads to sound wave interference, which makes the piano sound much, very much louder. And yes, they usually have different thickness, so they’re not supposed to be tuned to higher note than it should be.
@@jordankerr1 I am confused what you mean? Slaves? How is that related? Different world, huh??? The reason is because 1) they simpathetically vibrate with eat other, causing them to sustain the pitch much longer, 2) it enhances the timbre and harmonic spectrum, creating a much fully sound. I don't know why you call me Mr. Timpson, is it meant demeaningly? (Actually is it Dr. Timpson since I have a doctorate in music, but I am perfectly happy if you just call me Mike.)
@@cloudanceThe octave isn't necessary to make a power chord, just the root and the fifth, it's just that it's easy to play the octave on a guitar with standard tuning because it's the same fret as the fifth one string down, it provides a "fuller" sound, and traditionally a "chord" requires at least 3 notes.
As a piano player, those tiktok clips just aren't telling you the other nuances you need. If you need soft notes, the left pedal puts a dampener on the strings to make them softer with less effort, and the right pedal withdraws that mute on each hammer allowing the string to continue vibrating after you've let off the note. They also don't talk about hand and body posture.
@@caffinatedredpanda9964 If someone want to self taught themselves piano but doesn't know how to find learning resources then that will likely happen eh
String snap alert! Tuning a pitch 7 half steps above (C to G) may likely snap strings or overstretch them irretreivably. Restringing the piano to support these higher tentions will ensure you don’t snap or hurt the strings you are bringing up
There is an instrument where you play a chord with 1 button (yes, button, not a key) it's called accordion. I am an accordion player, and it's left hand, the basses. Accordion is actually very underrated
I remember watching a video on the buttons of an accordion, it suddenly became less scary, more like "WOW I WANT THAT TOO ON MY PIANO." Basically the circle of fifths as a keyboard though I might be misreading it
@@cloroxbleach9222 Well, there are accordions which have 32 basses, they are obviously smaller (buttons). And there are accordions which have 120. So bigger accordions sound better. Sometimes when you press a button, other button is pressed automatically (if it's the same note,) It's alsos made to navigate easier, there are many buttons that are the same notes. And to not make the notes that are far away to go wasted, they will be pressed automatically too which will make the sound stronger. I tried to share some facts about accordion..
Maybe for the lower notes have octaves and fifths so it does not sound muddy. But on the upper end of the left I would put major and minors. You probably want the key that's stuck with the left pedal to be the actual note not that that matters on an upright as it just puts the hammers closer. Right hand I don't know I'm tempted to say keep one note
You can tune two octaves with triads as you see them on the C scale: C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bdim. This way all the poly chords will still be in C, working as extensions of the lowest chord. Also tritones are cool. For two string notes - fifths, sixths The result can be: single note octave, interval octave, C scale triad octave (you can do inversions! Like, a C6/4 on the C3 will be G2, C3, E3), triton octave, another C scale triad octave (not inverted) Now that's jazz!
You are my favorite psychopath musical engineer genius. No sane person would ever do anything you do, but I absolutely love all of it! Fantastic work as always :D
dude this is actually really cool, cuz if you have a piano where the left pedal shifts the hammers over to only play 1 string, you could essentially have auto chords when you lift up the pedal to play all 3 strings (normally that pedal is used to make the piano quieter). Some pianos have different left pedals though, with some just using a dampening cloth and some physically shifting over the keys and hammers (I'm talking about the second one though for this idea).
Now THAT'S what I call a project! I hope you do decide to make a full video of it, I really want to know how the technician/pro players react! (I'm an engineer)
You should look into the way accordians left hand buttons are tuned, where you have 2 bass note rows and then triads to modify each chord into major, minor, diminished 7ths and dominant 7ths
Anything less than about 5 cents (around 1hz) is imperceptible to the human ear and is perceived as more of a chorus effect, which could be really cool to hear.
Pianos from like 200 years ago had technology to make your life easier (imagine presing full chords with a key instead of having to think the full thing)
I'd do each octave in the same octave, but with a different chord - like, one octave minor, the next one major, then a fifth, then a seventh and leave the rest for solo playing on top. :)
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@@gehirndoperyou could always mix string gauges, taking strings from different octaves and combining them into one note. Probably wouldn’t work with coiled bass strings since the circumference is so much different, but it has potential.
you can also do the tiktok tutorial thing where the melody plays different notes at different times when pressing the same key by muting some of the strings on your chord keys
they always said if you learn the piano you can learn any instrument because the piano covers most instruments. So to macro keys youre also taking potential combinations out
Fine line between cacophony and music. But yes it could be an opportunity if you make every 5th key a cord (or whatever is comfortable) you could probably do things that would be otherwise impossible and that's awesome!
i feel like tuning the black keys to Cord Mode™ would be the best use case. that way you don't have to fumble around deciding which keys to tune. and you'll never accidentally hit a full cord when you meant to hit a key. and you still have full original functionality of all your white keys
I’m debating whether I should turn this into a full video and do the entire piano. Theory people, what chords makes sense tuning it to? Keep in mind the bass section only has two strings so it can only be done on 2/3 of piano
It wouldn't make sense to tune the entire piano like that because otherwise you wouldn't be able to play a melody, but the middle-low section you could 😂 (even the two-strung notes could be tuned as intervals of fifths for example but you should check how it sounds of course)
Should definitely do the entire piano. Since the bass still has 2 strings you can still do an Interval or an octave.
You could just stick with the chords in the C major scale, and use your black keys to make the C# major scale utilizing all of the keys. And giving you A and A# minor. Also you should tune your bass section to fifths!
Edit: now that I think about it fifths instead of just octaves for the bass section would make split chords terrible, but it would be fine to just never play them 😂
*OH also if you want to go really bananas with it you could instead tune all of your black keys to your 7th chords of c major instead! 😀
Don't do the entire piano, just enough to play Wonderwall
It sounds amazing you should try it.
You could basically make a piano behave like an accordion. Half the piano to play all sorts chords, the other half to play melody lines.
was thinking that
Yes! This!
Ok I will look into the tuning of accordians maybe I can steal some ideas there!
This is the way!
As an accordion player this needs to be done 100%
He can finally do one of those TikTok tutorials. Just pressing "1 2 3 4 5" and you okay a full on song.
Those tutorials actually work though. I learned to play all star with only middle c.
I learned Darude - Sandstorm with only the bottom c.
@@SnowFromWalmartthey dont.
@@VixityTheFox1 it's called sarcasm
@@SnowFromWalmartI learned how to play rush e with 3 keys. I just typed smth like 11111112356 or whatever it was
Wait, that actually means you could play biblically accurate RushE...
No.
Maybe.
This was my first thought
Definitely can't play it biblically accurate, but we can get way closer 😂
@@nebula8893 every day we're getting closer to the dream 🤣
Biblically?
I really want to see people start tuning some pianos like this and start composing for it. It basically turns a standard piano into a whole new instrument!
well no not really.
@@osmacar5331 new instrument perhaps not, but the scaling and chords are however entirely new. Im no music theorist or compiser so im definitely lacking on proper nomenclature.
@@100GTAGUY while i am a musician. And you are correct. Well mostly.
Doesn’t synth already exist? And haven’t they?
Yeah. I've never seen anyone do this except for now, but it seems pretty cool and it could open up some more possibilities or smth
1. Definitely do a full piano
2. Consult with a jazz musician or jazz RUclipsr on what notes to tune the strings to - I'm sure they would have great ideas!
Any RUclipsr that comes to mind specifically in this genre?
@@Mattiaskrantzhands down reach out to Adam Neely
@@Mattiaskrantz Adam Neely maybe? Or Charles Cornell?
No, do power chords!
Charles Cornell deifnitely.
there is a good reason acoustically why they have three strings tuned to same note. it took them centuries to refine the timbre and action.
What’s the reason. They always had slaves centuries ago it’s a different world mr timpson
@@jordankerr1 Every string has a different 'thickness' for every particular note, so tuning a C string higher to a G can easily break it; even today in our modern times physics stay the same Mr. Kerr.
@@fedegwagwa 😂😂I love some good tom foolery. Thank you for instilling a little wisdom on us simpletons
@@fedegwagwaActually, if several strings are tuned to the same note it leads to sound wave interference, which makes the piano sound much, very much louder. And yes, they usually have different thickness, so they’re not supposed to be tuned to higher note than it should be.
@@jordankerr1 I am confused what you mean? Slaves? How is that related? Different world, huh??? The reason is because 1) they simpathetically vibrate with eat other, causing them to sustain the pitch much longer, 2) it enhances the timbre and harmonic spectrum, creating a much fully sound. I don't know why you call me Mr. Timpson, is it meant demeaningly? (Actually is it Dr. Timpson since I have a doctorate in music, but I am perfectly happy if you just call me Mike.)
As a pianist, playing that C major on a single note blew my mind. Wow! Imagine the kinds of things you could play if you did this with every string?
Powerchords for the piano.
Powerchords for the bass strings!!
Not really. Major chords are 1-3-5 and power chords are 1-5-7.
@@calebregan power chords are root and fifth...
@@calebregan power chords are the root note and the perfect fifth and then the root doubled an octave up!
@@cloudanceThe octave isn't necessary to make a power chord, just the root and the fifth, it's just that it's easy to play the octave on a guitar with standard tuning because it's the same fret as the fifth one string down, it provides a "fuller" sound, and traditionally a "chord" requires at least 3 notes.
Tune the piano in fifths, put contact microphones on it, and plug it into a distortion pedal.
the power piano
lunacy. heresy
I like your funny words magic man
i like this idea
Yeah, base note, fifth and a one octave up from base note. I need this!
"If this works, it's gonna sound fake" I'm dead 💀
If speedrunners played the piano
Clearly this is how those tik tok piano tutorials are able to play a whole song with just 3 notes
i was thinking the same thing!
first isekai ojiisan pfp I have seen.
@@HappilyMundane finally someone recognized. It's been so long since i set this pfp lol
As a piano player, those tiktok clips just aren't telling you the other nuances you need. If you need soft notes, the left pedal puts a dampener on the strings to make them softer with less effort, and the right pedal withdraws that mute on each hammer allowing the string to continue vibrating after you've let off the note. They also don't talk about hand and body posture.
@@caffinatedredpanda9964 If someone want to self taught themselves piano but doesn't know how to find learning resources then that will likely happen eh
String snap alert! Tuning a pitch 7 half steps above (C to G) may likely snap strings or overstretch them irretreivably. Restringing the piano to support these higher tentions will ensure you don’t snap or hurt the strings you are bringing up
Yeah don't try at home. But he definitely tuned them lower rather than higher for this exact reason
I don't know if you know this man, but instruments, pianos mainly, fear him
Not trying to be rude but when you say things like “string snap alert” or anything similar, you come off as super obnoxious/annoying.
@@graywo2851 To be fair, that's based on individual perception 🥹
@graywo2851 Not trying to be rude but when you say things like "not trying to be rude" or anything similar, you come off as super obnoxious/annoying.
Make all the notes create a perfect harmony every time!
"I could play 5 chords with one hand"
Okay, Rachmaninoff 😂
I think he did that on purpose lol
Do a whole piano
I got this piano only to do just this haha. But I am not sure to what chords 🤔
@@Mattiaskrantz powerchords
@@MattiaskrantzALL OF THE CHORDS
@@Mattiaskrantz just do the chords corresponding to that key. The you can play a whole song with chords
@@Mattiaskrantzwhite keys for major and black for minor (not in a racist way)
sir, you appear to have made it your mission to singlehandedly piss off every piano tech everywhere, and as a piano tech myself, I salute you xD
Looks like he still missed one then, time to try something else!
I disliked your comment
He has done similarly stupid stuff to his piano before, like tuning every key to E, and replacing the hammers with metal hammers meant to drive nails.
I mean, isn't there like only 10 of them? /s
@@LaughingOrangeI have a particular love for the Water Piano and Electric ultra dangerous one
I love this because this is the kind of stuff i love to do. Improving or optimising things that have under-utilised potential.
Definitely do the whole piano. This could even take off as a legitimate way to tune a piano.
Missed opportunity to play Lean On Me
I heard it too 😂
Yes! Was waiting for it ever since he first hit the chord 😂
Im glad Im not the only one 😂
I immediately heard “some…times in my life” when he hit that chord.
I was looking for one comment with this haha
Finally found the piano they use on tiktok!
This is actually cool as hell
Make a full piano just for mixed chords. The true back pianist.
There is an instrument where you play a chord with 1 button (yes, button, not a key) it's called accordion. I am an accordion player, and it's left hand, the basses. Accordion is actually very underrated
I remember watching a video on the buttons of an accordion, it suddenly became less scary, more like "WOW I WANT THAT TOO ON MY PIANO." Basically the circle of fifths as a keyboard though I might be misreading it
@@cloroxbleach9222 Well, there are accordions which have 32 basses, they are obviously smaller (buttons). And there are accordions which have 120. So bigger accordions sound better. Sometimes when you press a button, other button is pressed automatically (if it's the same note,)
It's alsos made to navigate easier, there are many buttons that are the same notes. And to not make the notes that are far away to go wasted, they will be pressed automatically too which will make the sound stronger.
I tried to share some facts about accordion..
There's also the autoharp
Holy shit, a-chord-ion
@@gotbacon3624 It comes from the German: "Akkord".
Octaves and fifths like an organ, the soft pedal could function as a way to change the stops
This is the way
Maybe for the lower notes have octaves and fifths so it does not sound muddy. But on the upper end of the left I would put major and minors. You probably want the key that's stuck with the left pedal to be the actual note not that that matters on an upright as it just puts the hammers closer. Right hand I don't know I'm tempted to say keep one note
@@talonsilverhawk5763 The lower notes only have one string
You can tune two octaves with triads as you see them on the C scale: C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bdim. This way all the poly chords will still be in C, working as extensions of the lowest chord.
Also tritones are cool.
For two string notes - fifths, sixths
The result can be: single note octave, interval octave, C scale triad octave (you can do inversions! Like, a C6/4 on the C3 will be G2, C3, E3), triton octave, another C scale triad octave (not inverted)
Now that's jazz!
Black keys can be a halftone shift of a higher note chord/interval
You can map this in Ableton and hear how this sounds on a midi keyboard
Also you can make a dim chord octave, with strings tuned as a first, 5th and 7th of a chord
It's like a triton plus a minor third
I'm so proud of you. You just found one of the coolest features of a piano
You are my favorite psychopath musical engineer genius. No sane person would ever do anything you do, but I absolutely love all of it! Fantastic work as always :D
dude this is actually really cool, cuz if you have a piano where the left pedal shifts the hammers over to only play 1 string, you could essentially have auto chords when you lift up the pedal to play all 3 strings (normally that pedal is used to make the piano quieter). Some pianos have different left pedals though, with some just using a dampening cloth and some physically shifting over the keys and hammers (I'm talking about the second one though for this idea).
I want to see a whole piano tune like this
explains why real pianos have that chorus-y effect to them
Now THAT'S what I call a project!
I hope you do decide to make a full video of it, I really want to know how the technician/pro players react!
(I'm an engineer)
That one cord...lead into
Sometimes in our lives
We all have pain
We all have sorrow....
Lean on me,when your not strong.
And I'll be your friend
Im not the only one who her this, yes🙌
As a pianist too I can see soooo many opportunities!
I love piano and I play, but never did I think I would find a piano video this cool.
OK honestly, this is very very cool potential!
It kind of makes me think of the left-hand on an accordion…
Make three octave sections all the same octave, but one minor, one major, and one single notes. I would literally buy this.
I think it would be easier to program an electric piano rather than doing it with an acoustic one
Very true but real instruments have a certain sound that vst’s and electric pianos just can’t compare to
Makes Lean On Me so much easier to play like that
You should look into the way accordians left hand buttons are tuned, where you have 2 bass note rows and then triads to modify each chord into major, minor, diminished 7ths and dominant 7ths
One string for each set tuned up an octave would be cool
maybe until the higher notes, and then its normal
If you have a really good tuner, Make one string lower or higher only 2hz different. It will sound right with slow vibrato.
Anything less than about 5 cents (around 1hz) is imperceptible to the human ear and is perceived as more of a chorus effect, which could be really cool to hear.
Pianos from like 200 years ago had technology to make your life easier (imagine presing full chords with a key instead of having to think the full thing)
Imagine a pianist playing this without knowing. I would love to see their first reaction
I'd do each octave in the same octave, but with a different chord - like, one octave minor, the next one major, then a fifth, then a seventh and leave the rest for solo playing on top. :)
I have had a 1978 home organ that did this if I put it into 'Chord mode'.
Would love to see a full video about this!!
I think this idea makes the Rush E more possible or at least can be playable in a more complex play
please tune a whole piano like this
Dude idk why this hasn't been done as a legitimate instrument. I'd love to see what a pro could come up with, with all that extra freedom
Oh, thats why untuned pianos sound so wonky
Done right, you could write and play a really amazing and unique piece! 👌 😎
I fell in love with u when u say “it’s really not” and you’re right!
Let's see how close we can get to playing a perfect Rush E 🔥🔥🔥
A M A Z I N G!
This is how the guitar was made. I’m calling it.
It would be so cool if someone used this in the something got talent contests
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3/4 cup Hershey cacao (175 mL)
1/2 tsp baking soda (2 mL)
2/3 cup butter or margarine, melted and divided (150 mL)
1/2 cup boiling water (125 mL)
2 cups sugar (500 mL)
2 eggs
1 1/3 cups all-purpose flour (325 mL)
1 tsp vanilla extract (5 mL)
1/4 tsp salt
1 cup Hershey chocolate chips (250 mL)
Heat oven to 350°F (180°C). Grease 13x9x2-inch (33 x 23 x 5 cm) baking pan.
Stir together cocoa and baking soda in large bowl; stir in 1/3 cup (75 mL) butter. Add boiling water; stir until mixture thickens. Stir in sugar, eggs and remaining 1/3 cup (75 mL) butter; stir until smooth. Add flour, vanilla and salt; blend completely. Stir in chocolate chips. Pour into prepared pan.
Bake 35 to 40 minutes or until brownies begin to pull away from sides of pan. Cool completely in pan on wire rack. Frost if desired. Cut into squares
cute
You could tune it so it plays in 3 different octaves with one key
You'd need way too much tension.
@@gehirndoperyou could always mix string gauges, taking strings from different octaves and combining them into one note. Probably wouldn’t work with coiled bass strings since the circumference is so much different, but it has potential.
This sounds awesome!
I watched my dad do this in the 90's on our baby grand, he was always trying out new things and in the end he fell in love with Roland keytars!!!
Tune a piano so it plays a song when you play a scale
piano and guitare are the best instrument for a beginner :) and it's beautiful ! wish i have the time one day
Cool, one of the things I like most about a digital keyboard is playing multiple keys at the same time.
That sounds awesome
you can also do the tiktok tutorial thing where the melody plays different notes at different times when pressing the same key by muting some of the strings on your chord keys
you could make the CRAZIEST polychords with this
You're a genius. They should have done that.
Bro this is awesome!
wait until he learns about accordions
That one key made it sound like a medieval piano xD
This is great if you only want to play in one key forever
I mean, that's honestly kind of how it works on accordions. Where one button plays a full chord.
Yes, DO THE FULL PIANO!!!!❤
Uau, amazing sounds 😍
i want to hear more of that!
You could in theory achieve a wall of sound effect with one instrument which is insane to me
It is basically to create a sustain effect when you trigger the piano pedals.
You could do some really fun stuff with this
The first song that came to mind is Lean On Me, at least the beginning. 😅😂
Whole piano like this
So that’s how those numbered TikTok tutorials do it
now we know how they are making these sketchy piano tutorials on tiktok
Finally a way to play Rachmaninoff and Liszt by myself
We need a whole piano with a tuning like this. A new instrument at this point.
Strike of the hammer becomes critical for the weighting of the chord's formants.
I think that would be cool for the low end left hand.
A beautuful chord is when you tune one string to D, the second one to D#, and the third one somewhere inbetween D and D#. So harmonious!
It would be so cool to take 1 octave of this and turn it into chords!
More people should customise their piano tuning
You can do this with a synth so easily.
*laughs in accordion*
That sounds sweet
This is the musical equivalent of using a Game Genie cheat code😮❤
You could compose an entire song on chords at one time
they always said if you learn the piano you can learn any instrument because the piano covers most instruments. So to macro keys youre also taking potential combinations out
would be cool to see extra strings tuned to add more passive resonance or stuff like that.
This is basically how a piano Accordion works
Personally i love making the chord shapes but this does seem fun 😂😂
Fine line between cacophony and music.
But yes it could be an opportunity if you make every 5th key a cord (or whatever is comfortable) you could probably do things that would be otherwise impossible and that's awesome!
Incredible!
i feel like tuning the black keys to Cord Mode™ would be the best use case. that way you don't have to fumble around deciding which keys to tune. and you'll never accidentally hit a full cord when you meant to hit a key. and you still have full original functionality of all your white keys