Make it lighter get to the point where you dont need a shoulder bag for the battery later versions hopefully will be better,but it will never be for me i would have no use for it,but for others it may well hit the spot
Reduce the weight around your head. Get more battery life rather than the current 2 hours. If battery cannot be extended then have the ability to buy another battery and be able to use it after the 1st battery needs charging.
Not a waste of money if you enjoy it However this is a solution to absolutely no problem that needed solving. Immense, expensive gimmick. But this is Apple so it’s all part of the innovation and quality that’s part of the culture. Great video but as you can guess I’m not in the slightest bit interested other than as a viewer Look forward to the follow ups
Each to their own with how people spend their money and I get that it’s still very early days for Vision Pro but i’d still get a Meta Quest, Gaming for example, I can connect my Quest to my Shadow PC account using virtual here and play flight simulator in VR mode plus several other games as well and for me that it is pretty much the only reason for VR headsets, The idea of doing work via a headset just doesn’t make sense
What can be done with it that can't more effectively, more practically and more efficiently be done with other devices that have a longer battery charge? If there are ways in which it is better than what we already have, are the improvements worth the cost? In the few reviews I've seen, I haven't yet seen a reason to have one. It reminds me of foldable phone displays: the advance in technology is good to see, but it doesn't offer a practical advantage over what there already is, and it is only a step along the way to something worthwhile to most people. It might appeal to those who are easily seduced by gimmicks and novelty, and have $3.5k to spare, but I can't see what practical benefits it offers over other devices already owned by most people who would buy one.
VR/AR won't take off in any meaningful way outside of niche nerd circles unless someone sells a good product at a loss to break it into the mainstream market. This product may be decent, but only tech reviewers and moderately wealthy Apple fanboys are going to buy it. People have been saying "it will get better and cheaper in the future!" But that's what we've been hearing about VR headsets for ten bloody years already! There's also the quite substantial issue that it doesn't really offer anything. It doesn't make any tasks more convenient or novel enough to be worth using. For all the nonsense apps allow you to do on a smartphone, a smartphone still serves fundamentally useful functions such as allowing you to instantly communicate with people, using GPS navigation, doing things that actually make life easier to manage. A VR headset on the other hand, is 100% novelty. There aren't even any good hypothetical uses for it. People didn't even want to wear glasses for 3D TV's, nobody is going to wear a half-kilo headset every time they want to watch something.
Have you tried Vision Pro? I’d recommend grabbing one to glimpse at what Apple thinks we’ll be doing next. In my opinion, the issue isn’t the price. That’s driven by the hardware required; it’s the size and abnormality of the hardware that is the issue. As that changes, they’re onto something.
"I haven't watched any video reviews purposely", and minutes later - paraphrasing - "My friend did amazing video on Vision Pro" 😅 So your video review wasn't really a blind one.
@@MarkEllisReviews If I said "Alien" movie was amazing, you'd assume I had seen it, right? Just to be clear, your review was great, just that bit made me chuckle 😉
🤣 Man, the majority of Americans have at least $5 thousand dollars or more worth of HD TVs in their homes, 🤣 but a lot of them can't afford it, but they still have them in their homes 🤣. Then people complain about the price of the AVP, 🤣 #Consumerism #Priorities #HDTVs #AVP
Yes, I will get my Vision Pro hit thru you. I can’t justify the cost for what it can do, at this point. It is great that you are sharing your experience with this product. We get a very good idea of its capabilities along with its pros & cons for no cost. Once available in Canada, I will do the store demo, then wait for a version I can afford.
Yes you did. It's like every other VR headset: its cool at first but it starts collecting dust after 2 weeks cause it's simply worse at everything you already have devices for... Like, this has been talked about forever that VR headsets are pretty much a gimmick if you are not a gamer. To be honest I feel bad for how many people got tricked into buying this thing expecting it to be something amazing and useful especially considering this thing is 3.5k. To be fair, some enthusiast might really start using that thing instead of their TV or iPad but not the average mainstream audience that was targeted by this marketing.
It's not a VR headset it's an AR headset. While what you say may be true about VR headsets, where the focus was pretty much on gaming and pushing some sort of Second Life also run no one asked for, this thing looks like it's been designed as a productivity device first and maybe a media consumption device second. The idea being that you can set up unlimited numders of screens around your work area, sure you could argue that monitors and TVs are pretty cheap now but the thing is that it's pretty hard to lung a 75'' screen onto an airplane if you what to catch up on your shows. And while this thing can do VR as well, that seems to be more of a value add. With any professional device people will spend money on it if it makes them slightly more productive because any sunk cost they put into the device will be more than offset by the amount of money they could potentially make from the device. You only have to look at photography as an example where professionals will drop thousands on lens and equipment because they know they'll probably make all that back over the course of a few jobs. That and as a tax write off.
Have you wasted your money? Only if the number of videos you make with it doesn’t net £3800 - plus the time it costs to make them. Also factor in what you’ll make from it should you sell it. I look forward to seeing where the tech goes but it’s not something that hugely interests me. It definitely doesn’t solve any tech problems I currently have.
I have wasted a lot of money in my life doing things that brought me joy and comfort, rather than money. I have an Apple Watch and a couple of iPads (and many more over the years). None of them has brought a cent of ROI.
Great video Mark. I think in time this device will turn into something within itself. Meaning that there will be stuff to do with this that are awesome, movies, games and stuff not yet invented. It will become something to do, ‘Vision Pro’ time. Put it on, enjoy, end, get on with life. It's not heading for everyone wearing one all day, everywhere they go
Hey, such a refreshing review because of the European context! Thank you so much. I can relate 🖖🏻 I’m from Latvia and generally did the same as you. I ordered it out of curiosity - not knowing what to expect, excited and worried. The same situation - no local Apple ID support for now, extra costs for getting it to EU, a goal to figure out this product category. I’m blown away by the screen resolution and eye/gesture tracking, and the spatial OS UI (also a lot of ideas for OS improvements). My Oculus will be forgotten 🙈 Vission Pro is not perfect, but seems to have a great potential to ignite the VR scene and push the market to another level. A week in now, and I have a similar feeling like with the 1st generation iPhone - feels like the first milestone of a major switch of the way people will consume information (the timing is right also due to risebof AI scene / I strongly believe that getting rid of keyboards and trackpads is the key of wider adaptation of VR devices. AI shows promise to provide a new way for interacting with OS). As an app developer I can also see parallels between initial mobile apps and trends in current 1st generation spatial OS apps - many apps seem to be failing to ajust for the spatial context and are just mimmicking either desktop or mobile UI principles. (same as many apps were copies of mobile web back in 2008-2012). But it’s about to change, once developer teams will pick up this media. As an app developer i see a very huge potential.
Great review as always Mark. I think the Apple Vision Pro is for those hardcore Apple geeks out there with more money than sense. I have a Macbook Pro, Apple Watch Ultra, IPAD Pro, so already immersed in the Apple environment, but I personally could not justify spending £3k+ on Vision Pro. You can't beat working with a proper macbook/Ipad in front of you. How long would it take before the novelty wears off after users suffer yet another round of neck-aches? Will you be wearing these full time from now on, or just now and then? I believe wearing these outside in public could be a real concern for individuals personal security too.
Crazy. For $1k there are vr headsets that will custom mill a facial interface that fits you perfectly. For $3.5k... you get a rough match from a drawer.
Well, you are at least living evidence that Apple's massive PR marketing machine works so well that they made you curious enough to import one with your hard earned money. It's up to you if you get something out of that, I don't know what your youtube turnaround is (and it's really none of my business), but in all honesty, it's just another unboxing - same experience as 1000 other reviewers by now. I sincerely hope you get something nice out of in the end.
Good on you for doing a UK look at Vision Pro. £500 import tax ouch! I wouldn't do that myself. I'm not sure it is a productivity tool yet as it is very much a first version. But Apple have done what they often do, take existing ideas in tech and make it better and combined in a unique way. It needs to get lighter and more like a pair of glasses in version two I think.
I think we’re at the stage we can do all these fun things with technology, and we make the gadgets just because we can. But are they all really useful or necessary? Not really, but of course all this recreation uses a lot of precious resources which we turn a blind eye to in the developed world. Consumerism and capitalism is already destroying the planet and I think we need to consider if these gadgets are worth the cost
Very easy - you can do it on Vision Pro. You just need an email address. However, you can sign in with your UK account (you’ll just need to switch to the one your created for the App Store).
I’m sure Mark was aware that with the involvement of a third party and having to ship the device to the UK, the 14 day policy was never going to be able to be applied for this purchase.
Nice review, but it's a completely overpriced piece of gear. I can use my laptop screen for now until the price to value ratio is better, and it becomes more generally avaible.
I was really looking forward to your review, and the fact you waited to see other people’s videos until you got your own meant it was very raw and authentic, well done
Eh- i think you might have been better off watching the US reviews and then deciding if it’s worth 3500 quid - based on the number of returns and bad reviews - seems a meta quest can do pretty much any of the functionality - for 500 quid - there’s just no way Steve Jobs would have pushed this into market without massive improvements - weight - 2 hours battery and limited apps are the most common issues by overwhelming number of reviews - even fanboys are admitting - apple may have a flop on their hands - so i think you may have wanted your money if I’m honest
Ha I read your online review before stumbling upon this video. Took me a couple minutes to realise the name of the channel and the reviewer online were the same 😂 Great vid and great review! Thanks :)
Looks an impressive bit of technology. Not sure I will get even when out in the UK. I can’t see using much except when flying and then it is rather bulky to carry. If used at home or in office would be very unsociable - removing yourself from those around you.
As a week-long "veteran" of the AVP, I'd like to mention one thing about comfort. The biggest mistake I see everyone making is evaluating the comfort level after 5 minutes, or even 1 day, of use. It is very tricky to adjust the AVP for maximum comfort. The over-the-head strap makes it easier to be a bit more sloppy in your adjustment, without making you pay the price in level of discomfort. The Solo band can be just as comfortable, but it takes a lot of experimentation. Most people position the back of the Solo band too low, causing the AVP to put more pressure on the lower parts of your face & nose. I've found the best positioning to be with the band pretty high up on the back of one's head. Just 1/4 inch difference, in either direction, can make a huge difference in comfort. Also, because the ratcheting adjustment knob works really well, many people tend to over tighten it causing huge amounts of pressure on the face. The tightness is almost infinitely adjustable in both directions in really tiny increments. I find that I can loosen it quite a bit without the AVP moving around. So, as you change the angle of the strap, you will feel the AVP pressure shifting. You want the pressure to be equal on all sides of the AVP. Then loosen the strap until you feel like it's almost too loose, then make very fine adjustments from there. In long sessions, like watching a movie, you may find that you have to start tweaking it again, maybe after an hour. I assume that's because the shapes of our faces change a little bit over time, especially when we have a weight strapped to them. It's taken me more than a week to get good at adjusting the Solo band for comfort. I use it because it's so much more convenient than the loop band. It should not be this difficult to get a comfortable fit and that's the one place where Apple needs to do a bit more research. I'm sure they can come up with a better band, perhaps an over-the-head style band that uses an adjustment feature as precise as the current adjustment knob in all directions. In the meantime, Apple could make some more detailed training about how to get a comfortable fit. They provided so much other training for this device and I hate to think how many people will return it because they never figured out how to make it comfortable.
Very clear this is a first generation product. I think I will wait for a second/ third generation version. Hopefully lighter ( and cheaper!). Best and honest review I’ve seen of it. A long term test might address my concerns over eye strain etc.
Hi Mark, I watched the video and understand you are going to integrate the Vision Pro into your life. When working with multiple applications. I.e. office, you are able to create multiple monitors. I believe initial focus of the vision, pro is business applications. The other would creative applications. I am wondering about the ability to dictate on the device. Period. This would remove the need for typing. Does the Vision Pro eliminate the use of a laptop or desktop? This to me would be a great tool. it would eliminate clutter. As for the weight of the vision pro, you might need to start working out your neck! Good luck!
Im personally not gonna buy it because A I can’t afford it and B I couldn’t justify it If someone who has bought it likes it and enjoys it, that’s their opinion. Hope you enjoy it!
Excited about the product. I hope it takes off so we'll see more capable iterations and some truly immersive apps. At the moment, it'd hard for me to justify the expense, given the limited use cases.
Not sure I want this as the future but can only imagine how this thing will function a few upgrades from now a little scary, but amazing at the same time.
Oh heads up don’t try and clean the front glass/plastic or the actual eye pieces with anything other than the provided cloth or another purpose made delicate display cloth. Any paper towels, kitchen towel, t shirt material will irreversibly scratch and damage the displays!. That was warned by the big guy who does tear down videos the one who caused the who hate about the 15pro back glass breaking!. So yea be super careful.
How did u manage to get a US Apple ID and enter your payment details with a CC issued in the US? That’s virtually impossible to do if u live outside of the US and not a US resident (ie have a green card)
As much as you’d like to believe it true, most information coming in is that the return rate is normal to slightly higher than normal for a new product. Where are you getting information that most people who buy one are returning it?
@@ryanfisher4213 I don’t remember which video here summed it up but there are thousands of videos here of people saying that they returned it because it was too expensive, too front-heavy, bad for the eyes, not enough content and in many ways bad to get compared to the Quest 3 (which is 1/7 of the price and has 1000x content). And it was crap to use for work compared to monitors because it was bad for the eyes and it made you dizzy. I.e. things that most of us already had figured out without buying it.
As soon as you add a non US credit card to the Apple ID it sets up, won’t it throw a wobbly about it? The killer app for Vision Pro for me is Mac Virtual Display personally
@@MarkEllisReviewsbut how are you going to pay for apps without a gift card? The only other way is a credit card. Juno for RUclips isn’t free for example
Bro what’s the point of putting highlights if you’re just gonna combined them all into one? Like you should of put unboxing as its own, then setup as its own and then experience as its own
First video I’ve watched on this device, a fun watch for the first generation - you remind me of a kid on Christmas morning😂. Super interesting to see Microsoft 365 integration in the store… we’ll probably see Google follow suit. If I ever get into the position of being able to claim this as a business expense😅it will be interesting to see how this evolves in future generations.
You did not waste your money. You wanted it and you have a RUclips channel. You said you’ve not watched any reviews or videos about the Vision Pro. I’m in the UK and have watched loads. The vast majority clearly love it for many reasons. Sure, it’s not perfect but there will be many OS updates and much more content to come. This first version will be around for some time. As for the weight, it seems to affect some people more than others. Many have said they went to Apple to get a proper fit and it went from being very uncomfortable to very comfortable. Might be worth doing that when it’s launched in the UK. I mainly want one for 3D movies and the rest is a bonus. Much of the talk of people returning it are those who were never going to keep it. They obtained one to review it and have another clickbait video when they return it. Very much looking forward to the UK launch.
Thank you for this review, Mark, well done doing it afresh, without taking on board any other reviewers' opinions! Before you do a follow-up I'd be most interested in your thoughts on the issues highlighted by top-notch reviewers, such as MKBHD and Max Tech, whereby usability (domestically and at work) could be improved. I'm seriously considering buying a Vision Pro to watch 3D movies - is this something you could test, not just the ones available in iTunes, but could my 3D blu-ray player connect to it? Looking forward to your follow-up in any event! PS: definitely not a waste of money for those who benefitted from your review.
A great video Mark probably the best one I’ve watched on the Vision Pro. I still see it as just another VR headset all be it with all the Apple bells and whistles it’s not at the moment what Apple made it out to be. However it will get better and better with each new version just like the iPhone and Apple Watch. Unless you can clearly define a need for it at the moment it’s just to expensive!
Excellent review Mark. However, before I can say it worth the money, I need to see more of what it can add to your professional life. For me personally it would be a waste, but I can imagine it might make your job easier. Please show us more when you have got up to speed with it.
Fantastic to see it over this side of the pond! I was curious to see how much functionality we have in the UK as it stands. Were you able to access content that you had purchased on iTunes and Apple? Great video and I look forward to your next one about it
So, that’s just about the best review I’ve seen on that bit of kit! Love a pair, but don’t have that sort of dosh. I’m thinking the quest 3 might be a better option… but I have no idea.
I dont think many of the youtubers that bought this headset had any intentions of keeping it, all theyve done is review it, get paid for the views and then sent it back. You must be mental to have had that shipped over. Can you send it back? Before you think im some youtube troll, im not! im subscribed to your channel and you're my favourite reviewer on youtube but ive got to say that spending this amount of cash on this headset is a bit crazy. People seem to be losing interest in it already.
Appreciate the kind words! There’s a lot more to this, mate. It’s a business asset, and an investment in content. Everyone has their own content strategy, so I can’t comment on what others are doing, but I’m in this for the long run. It’s Apple’s punt on the next generation of computing and I’m fascinated to see what happens. Vision Pro is one step along that journey.
Fellow Brit with similar plans here - Many questions answered. Thanks. 1 question. Can you load MP4 movies from a hard drive to the VP for off line viewing ? (not ones from Apple TV)
Awesome - Thanks. That's the last hurdle cleared. Im heading to the USA on holiday (not vacation,) soon, so will book a demo appointment to give it a feel. All being well it will be travelling home with me.
@@rangerkayla8824if anything Steve Jobs would have released this With the battery inside of the device making it even heavier. Steve Jobs didn’t always make the right call.
What does Apple need to do next with Vision Pro?
Make it lighter get to the point where you dont need a shoulder bag for the battery later versions hopefully will be better,but it will never be for me i would have no use for it,but for others it may well hit the spot
make it like a Faro Focus from the Horizon Games
reduce weight is high priority for next model
Reduce the weight around your head. Get more battery life rather than the current 2 hours. If battery cannot be extended then have the ability to buy another battery and be able to use it after the 1st battery needs charging.
Make it a darn site cheaper!
Not a waste of money if you enjoy it
However this is a solution to absolutely no problem that needed solving. Immense, expensive gimmick.
But this is Apple so it’s all part of the innovation and quality that’s part of the culture. Great video but as you can guess I’m not in the slightest bit interested other than as a viewer
Look forward to the follow ups
"If you don't want to spend a ridiculous amount on a Herman Miller Aeron." is the ad in a video about a $3500 set of VR glasses. 😂
Each to their own with how people spend their money and I get that it’s still very early days for Vision Pro but i’d still get a Meta Quest,
Gaming for example, I can connect my Quest to my Shadow PC account using virtual here and play flight simulator in VR mode plus several other games as well and for me that it is pretty much the only reason for VR headsets,
The idea of doing work via a headset just doesn’t make sense
What can be done with it that can't more effectively, more practically and more efficiently be done with other devices that have a longer battery charge? If there are ways in which it is better than what we already have, are the improvements worth the cost? In the few reviews I've seen, I haven't yet seen a reason to have one. It reminds me of foldable phone displays: the advance in technology is good to see, but it doesn't offer a practical advantage over what there already is, and it is only a step along the way to something worthwhile to most people. It might appeal to those who are easily seduced by gimmicks and novelty, and have $3.5k to spare, but I can't see what practical benefits it offers over other devices already owned by most people who would buy one.
VR/AR won't take off in any meaningful way outside of niche nerd circles unless someone sells a good product at a loss to break it into the mainstream market. This product may be decent, but only tech reviewers and moderately wealthy Apple fanboys are going to buy it. People have been saying "it will get better and cheaper in the future!" But that's what we've been hearing about VR headsets for ten bloody years already!
There's also the quite substantial issue that it doesn't really offer anything. It doesn't make any tasks more convenient or novel enough to be worth using. For all the nonsense apps allow you to do on a smartphone, a smartphone still serves fundamentally useful functions such as allowing you to instantly communicate with people, using GPS navigation, doing things that actually make life easier to manage. A VR headset on the other hand, is 100% novelty. There aren't even any good hypothetical uses for it. People didn't even want to wear glasses for 3D TV's, nobody is going to wear a half-kilo headset every time they want to watch something.
Have you tried Vision Pro? I’d recommend grabbing one to glimpse at what Apple thinks we’ll be doing next. In my opinion, the issue isn’t the price. That’s driven by the hardware required; it’s the size and abnormality of the hardware that is the issue. As that changes, they’re onto something.
"I haven't watched any video reviews purposely", and minutes later - paraphrasing - "My friend did amazing video on Vision Pro" 😅 So your video review wasn't really a blind one.
At what point did I say I watched his video?
@@MarkEllisReviews If I said "Alien" movie was amazing, you'd assume I had seen it, right? Just to be clear, your review was great, just that bit made me chuckle 😉
@@robbiengall of course - but I’d also assume you’re probably not mates with James Cameron 😉 Thanks for the kind words 👍
Such an underrated RUclipsr!!
🤣 Man, the majority of Americans have at least $5 thousand dollars or more worth of HD TVs in their homes, 🤣 but a lot of them can't afford it, but they still have them in their homes 🤣. Then people complain about the price of the AVP, 🤣 #Consumerism #Priorities #HDTVs #AVP
Glad you finally got it! Personally I think as long as you enjoy using it and it’s helpful to your life it’s not a waste of money.
It’s basically an iPad Pro with an enhanced UI and Dynamic display…
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@@superzero4250No its not lol you havent even tried AVP...
I want a video of you walking around Morrisons! 😂
Nooooo 🤣
Why did u bother? Most ppl that bought it just for a review and views have returned it by now - you’re about 2 weeks late
Congratulations cant wait to get mine in canada. Are tou going to do a comparison with the Quest 3? That will be cool.
Maybe!
Yes, I will get my Vision Pro hit thru you. I can’t justify the cost for what it can do, at this point. It is great that you are sharing your experience with this product. We get a very good idea of its capabilities along with its pros & cons for no cost. Once available in Canada, I will do the store demo, then wait for a version I can afford.
Worth the experience at least…
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Yes you did. It's like every other VR headset: its cool at first but it starts collecting dust after 2 weeks cause it's simply worse at everything you already have devices for...
Like, this has been talked about forever that VR headsets are pretty much a gimmick if you are not a gamer. To be honest I feel bad for how many people got tricked into buying this thing expecting it to be something amazing and useful especially considering this thing is 3.5k. To be fair, some enthusiast might really start using that thing instead of their TV or iPad but not the average mainstream audience that was targeted by this marketing.
Not worse at being a TV. Or watching movies.
Single player tv...@@JJohnson313
It’s worth keeping in mind that I haven’t bought this as a regular consumer.
It's not a VR headset it's an AR headset. While what you say may be true about VR headsets, where the focus was pretty much on gaming and pushing some sort of Second Life also run no one asked for, this thing looks like it's been designed as a productivity device first and maybe a media consumption device second. The idea being that you can set up unlimited numders of screens around your work area, sure you could argue that monitors and TVs are pretty cheap now but the thing is that it's pretty hard to lung a 75'' screen onto an airplane if you what to catch up on your shows. And while this thing can do VR as well, that seems to be more of a value add.
With any professional device people will spend money on it if it makes them slightly more productive because any sunk cost they put into the device will be more than offset by the amount of money they could potentially make from the device. You only have to look at photography as an example where professionals will drop thousands on lens and equipment because they know they'll probably make all that back over the course of a few jobs. That and as a tax write off.
Have you wasted your money? Only if the number of videos you make with it doesn’t net £3800 - plus the time it costs to make them. Also factor in what you’ll make from it should you sell it.
I look forward to seeing where the tech goes but it’s not something that hugely interests me. It definitely doesn’t solve any tech problems I currently have.
Someone who understands the economics of this! Although there’s a lot more to this, as you might guess.
I have wasted a lot of money in my life doing things that brought me joy and comfort, rather than money.
I have an Apple Watch and a couple of iPads (and many more over the years). None of them has brought a cent of ROI.
@@MarkEllisReviewsthat’s why I’d like to see you out in Morrisons - don’t tell me you’re not all about the views 😉
I'm in the Joshua Tree thing... laughing my head off here. After seeing that reaction, I want one now, but will wait for the Australian release.
Great video Mark. I think in time this device will turn into something within itself. Meaning that there will be stuff to do with this that are awesome, movies, games and stuff not yet invented. It will become something to do, ‘Vision Pro’ time. Put it on, enjoy, end, get on with life. It's not heading for everyone wearing one all day, everywhere they go
Thanks, Peter! This is what we need - love this kind of musing about where this might go 👍
Hey, such a refreshing review because of the European context! Thank you so much. I can relate 🖖🏻
I’m from Latvia and generally did the same as you. I ordered it out of curiosity - not knowing what to expect, excited and worried. The same situation - no local Apple ID support for now, extra costs for getting it to EU, a goal to figure out this product category.
I’m blown away by the screen resolution and eye/gesture tracking, and the spatial OS UI (also a lot of ideas for OS improvements). My Oculus will be forgotten 🙈
Vission Pro is not perfect, but seems to have a great potential to ignite the VR scene and push the market to another level.
A week in now, and I have a similar feeling like with the 1st generation iPhone - feels like the first milestone of a major switch of the way people will consume information (the timing is right also due to risebof AI scene / I strongly believe that getting rid of keyboards and trackpads is the key of wider adaptation of VR devices. AI shows promise to provide a new way for interacting with OS).
As an app developer I can also see parallels between initial mobile apps and trends in current 1st generation spatial OS apps - many apps seem to be failing to ajust for the spatial context and are just mimmicking either desktop or mobile UI principles. (same as many apps were copies of mobile web back in 2008-2012). But it’s about to change, once developer teams will pick up this media. As an app developer i see a very huge potential.
Yeah, the box seems huge compared my Meta Quest 3 box.
Great review as always Mark. I think the Apple Vision Pro is for those hardcore Apple geeks out there with more money than sense. I have a Macbook Pro, Apple Watch Ultra, IPAD Pro, so already immersed in the Apple environment, but I personally could not justify spending £3k+ on Vision Pro. You can't beat working with a proper macbook/Ipad in front of you. How long would it take before the novelty wears off after users suffer yet another round of neck-aches?
Will you be wearing these full time from now on, or just now and then?
I believe wearing these outside in public could be a real concern for individuals personal security too.
Crazy. For $1k there are vr headsets that will custom mill a facial interface that fits you perfectly. For $3.5k... you get a rough match from a drawer.
Well, you are at least living evidence that Apple's massive PR marketing machine works so well that they made you curious enough to import one with your hard earned money. It's up to you if you get something out of that, I don't know what your youtube turnaround is (and it's really none of my business), but in all honesty, it's just another unboxing - same experience as 1000 other reviewers by now.
I sincerely hope you get something nice out of in the end.
Good on you for doing a UK look at Vision Pro. £500 import tax ouch! I wouldn't do that myself. I'm not sure it is a productivity tool yet as it is very much a first version. But Apple have done what they often do, take existing ideas in tech and make it better and combined in a unique way. It needs to get lighter and more like a pair of glasses in version two I think.
The best overview on the Apple Vision I've watched so far.
Thank you!
Great review,, as usual. The Vision Pro is way too expensive, and uncomfortable by the sound of it. Maybe in 3-5 years it will be viable.
I can see how a wearable AR device could be useful, but this isn’t it. This is a media consumption device, and I don’t really get what the point is.
That was neat taking us into the headset and seeing what you see! Do games/Apple Arcade work with this? That would be interesting to see.
Around 250 Apple Arcade games are available for Vision Pro and 12 are being released in special new ‘spatial’ versions.
I had the demo yesterday in Manchester and was blown away.
Interested to know Mark, 5 months on, how much do you use it now?
I think we’re at the stage we can do all these fun things with technology, and we make the gadgets just because we can. But are they all really useful or necessary? Not really, but of course all this recreation uses a lot of precious resources which we turn a blind eye to in the developed world. Consumerism and capitalism is already destroying the planet and I think we need to consider if these gadgets are worth the cost
What are the odds in ten years the Vision Pro will just be a pair of specs? Think I’ll wait till then😂
Jesus import duties etc was eye watering expense ... thank you for posting
Great video Mark! Was cool to see your reaction haha. Also, thanks for the shout!
Cheers mate - big thanks to you!
Lol!! The incidental 'music' was excellent. 🤣🤣
Im enjoying everyones videos on this knowing Ill never need it. LOL
That’s the spirit!
if you get close to a mirror, the Vision Pro will show your eyes.
Hi 👋 can I ask is it easy to set up new Apple ID in the UK ? Do I need USA address?
Very easy - you can do it on Vision Pro. You just need an email address. However, you can sign in with your UK account (you’ll just need to switch to the one your created for the App Store).
@@MarkEllisReviews thank you
I did tell you make sure you have 14 days return policy, it’s the only reason to buy from Apple direct
I’m sure Mark was aware that with the involvement of a third party and having to ship the device to the UK, the 14 day policy was never going to be able to be applied for this purchase.
@@blagger116 ouch £3500
Nice review, but it's a completely overpriced piece of gear. I can use my laptop screen for now until the price to value ratio is better, and it becomes more generally avaible.
Glad you enjoyed the review 👍
I was really looking forward to your review, and the fact you waited to see other people’s videos until you got your own meant it was very raw and authentic, well done
Ah - thank you. It worked!
Eh- i think you might have been better off watching the US reviews and then deciding if it’s worth 3500 quid - based on the number of returns and bad reviews - seems a meta quest can do pretty much any of the functionality - for 500 quid - there’s just no way Steve Jobs would have pushed this into market without massive improvements - weight - 2 hours battery and limited apps are the most common issues by overwhelming number of reviews - even fanboys are admitting - apple may have a flop on their hands - so i think you may have wanted your money if I’m honest
Everything you mention is exactly why I’ve invested in this for content 😉
Ha I read your online review before stumbling upon this video. Took me a couple minutes to realise the name of the channel and the reviewer online were the same 😂 Great vid and great review! Thanks :)
Haha - appreciate the kind words 👍
Yes. A waste in any country
After watching your video -
Did I WASTE my money on Apple Vision Pro in the UK?
Yes you did. Definitely.
Fancy adding meat to them ol’ bones?
@@MarkEllisReviews Just answering your question.
After 4 weeks it'll be back in it's box on a shelf.
@@Mark001-1 but why? I’m genuinely interested in this.
It just looks ridiculous lol
Looks an impressive bit of technology. Not sure I will get even when out in the UK. I can’t see using much except when flying and then it is rather bulky to carry. If used at home or in office would be very unsociable - removing yourself from those around you.
As a week-long "veteran" of the AVP, I'd like to mention one thing about comfort. The biggest mistake I see everyone making is evaluating the comfort level after 5 minutes, or even 1 day, of use. It is very tricky to adjust the AVP for maximum comfort. The over-the-head strap makes it easier to be a bit more sloppy in your adjustment, without making you pay the price in level of discomfort. The Solo band can be just as comfortable, but it takes a lot of experimentation. Most people position the back of the Solo band too low, causing the AVP to put more pressure on the lower parts of your face & nose. I've found the best positioning to be with the band pretty high up on the back of one's head. Just 1/4 inch difference, in either direction, can make a huge difference in comfort. Also, because the ratcheting adjustment knob works really well, many people tend to over tighten it causing huge amounts of pressure on the face. The tightness is almost infinitely adjustable in both directions in really tiny increments. I find that I can loosen it quite a bit without the AVP moving around. So, as you change the angle of the strap, you will feel the AVP pressure shifting. You want the pressure to be equal on all sides of the AVP. Then loosen the strap until you feel like it's almost too loose, then make very fine adjustments from there. In long sessions, like watching a movie, you may find that you have to start tweaking it again, maybe after an hour. I assume that's because the shapes of our faces change a little bit over time, especially when we have a weight strapped to them. It's taken me more than a week to get good at adjusting the Solo band for comfort. I use it because it's so much more convenient than the loop band. It should not be this difficult to get a comfortable fit and that's the one place where Apple needs to do a bit more research. I'm sure they can come up with a better band, perhaps an over-the-head style band that uses an adjustment feature as precise as the current adjustment knob in all directions. In the meantime, Apple could make some more detailed training about how to get a comfortable fit. They provided so much other training for this device and I hate to think how many people will return it because they never figured out how to make it comfortable.
how u were able to buy it?
Very clear this is a first generation product. I think I will wait for a second/ third generation version. Hopefully lighter ( and cheaper!). Best and honest review I’ve seen of it. A long term test might address my concerns over eye strain etc.
Hi Mark, I watched the video and understand you are going to integrate the Vision Pro into your life. When working with multiple applications. I.e. office, you are able to create multiple monitors. I believe initial focus of the vision, pro is business applications. The other would creative applications. I am wondering about the ability to dictate on the device. Period. This would remove the need for typing. Does the Vision Pro eliminate the use of a laptop or desktop? This to me would be a great tool. it would eliminate clutter.
As for the weight of the vision pro, you might need to start working out your neck! Good luck!
Im personally not gonna buy it because A I can’t afford it and B I couldn’t justify it
If someone who has bought it likes it and enjoys it, that’s their opinion.
Hope you enjoy it!
Excited about the product. I hope it takes off so we'll see more capable iterations and some truly immersive apps. At the moment, it'd hard for me to justify the expense, given the limited use cases.
Not sure I want this as the future but can only imagine how this thing will function a few upgrades from now a little scary, but amazing at the same time.
vision is bad , i waste the money , tarsh , too heavy too expsive , too ~!@#$%^& and he cant do something good ele 3D movie?
Great review. I like Apple’s f**k you we can do this so we will approach. I want to see your reaction to watching a movie on it. How big can it go!
Oh heads up don’t try and clean the front glass/plastic or the actual eye pieces with anything other than the provided cloth or another purpose made delicate display cloth. Any paper towels, kitchen towel, t shirt material will irreversibly scratch and damage the displays!. That was warned by the big guy who does tear down videos the one who caused the who hate about the 15pro back glass breaking!. So yea be super careful.
How did u manage to get a US Apple ID and enter your payment details with a CC issued in the US? That’s virtually impossible to do if u live outside of the US and not a US resident (ie have a green card)
I like that Apple thought of us visually impaired users, you can turn off eye tracking and use your head!
That maths doesn’t add up lol
They do when you have all the numbers 😉
Yes sorry. It was dollars and then pounds.
Yes you did, return it ASAP like most customers. 😊
I don't think he can return it.
@@dtz1000 Yeah, 'seems tricky and expensive.
As much as you’d like to believe it true, most information coming in is that the return rate is normal to slightly higher than normal for a new product. Where are you getting information that most people who buy one are returning it?
@@ryanfisher4213 I don’t remember which video here summed it up but there are thousands of videos here of people saying that they returned it because it was too expensive, too front-heavy, bad for the eyes, not enough content and in many ways bad to get compared to the Quest 3 (which is 1/7 of the price and has 1000x content). And it was crap to use for work compared to monitors because it was bad for the eyes and it made you dizzy. I.e. things that most of us already had figured out without buying it.
It is definitely the future. Won’t be long before it’s done on a normal pair of glasses, hopefully at a cheaper price!!!
How much? 😂
Wow, 3500 and no Apple stickers. You must be so disappointed.
There's a 3d printed mod that allows you to use a second solo knit band(?) As a top band. Apparently it's more comfy
Comfort and size has to be a big priority going forward and I’m sure it will
Movie watching experience is that viable atm or is that coming?
As soon as you add a non US credit card to the Apple ID it sets up, won’t it throw a wobbly about it? The killer app for Vision Pro for me is Mac Virtual Display personally
Nope. Because you don't have to add a card 😉
@@MarkEllisReviewsbut how are you going to pay for apps without a gift card? The only other way is a credit card. Juno for RUclips isn’t free for example
@@emilsecker7881 haven’t had time to look into it yet. But if I have to sacrifice paid apps for now it’s no big deal.
@@MarkEllisReviews fair enough. If you get time to look into it. Please let me know, I’m curious
Bro what’s the point of putting highlights if you’re just gonna combined them all into one? Like you should of put unboxing as its own, then setup as its own and then experience as its own
I know what I’m doing bro.
YES
Great video Mark! I am very tempted to get one of these!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@MarkEllisReviews Especially liked your genuine surprise and wonder over the new experience of the Vision Pro. I felt the same surprise and joy. 👍🏻
Thanks for another great review!
How can they not include stickers - Unbelievable that! 😅
Right?!
First video I’ve watched on this device, a fun watch for the first generation - you remind me of a kid on Christmas morning😂. Super interesting to see Microsoft 365 integration in the store… we’ll probably see Google follow suit. If I ever get into the position of being able to claim this as a business expense😅it will be interesting to see how this evolves in future generations.
Haha - glad you enjoyed it.
You did not waste your money. You wanted it and you have a RUclips channel. You said you’ve not watched any reviews or videos about the Vision Pro. I’m in the UK and have watched loads. The vast majority clearly love it for many reasons. Sure, it’s not perfect but there will be many OS updates and much more content to come. This first version will be around for some time. As for the weight, it seems to affect some people more than others. Many have said they went to Apple to get a proper fit and it went from being very uncomfortable to very comfortable. Might be worth doing that when it’s launched in the UK. I mainly want one for 3D movies and the rest is a bonus. Much of the talk of people returning it are those who were never going to keep it. They obtained one to review it and have another clickbait video when they return it. Very much looking forward to the UK launch.
You nailed all of that.
Thank you for this review, Mark, well done doing it afresh, without taking on board any other reviewers' opinions! Before you do a follow-up I'd be most interested in your thoughts on the issues highlighted by top-notch reviewers, such as MKBHD and Max Tech, whereby usability (domestically and at work) could be improved. I'm seriously considering buying a Vision Pro to watch 3D movies - is this something you could test, not just the ones available in iTunes, but could my 3D blu-ray player connect to it? Looking forward to your follow-up in any event! PS: definitely not a waste of money for those who benefitted from your review.
Thank you!
Absolutely amazing device
Good view Mark. Looking forward to more vids on this. Exciting tech but price is ridiculous. Can’t wait for the 2nd gen Vision Pro.
You and me both!
A great video Mark probably the best one I’ve watched on the Vision Pro. I still see it as just another VR headset all be it with all the Apple bells and whistles it’s not at the moment what Apple made it out to be. However it will get better and better with each new version just like the iPhone and Apple Watch. Unless you can clearly define a need for it at the moment it’s just to expensive!
Thank you!
What’s the comfort like after the 2 hours?
Excellent review Mark. However, before I can say it worth the money, I need to see more of what it can add to your professional life. For me personally it would be a waste, but I can imagine it might make your job easier. Please show us more when you have got up to speed with it.
Oh I will 😉
good video; is it really usefull..or just another, albeit fancy ,screen…waiting for the answer (here in Canada, june ? )
Thank you. Let’s find out!
Fantastic to see it over this side of the pond! I was curious to see how much functionality we have in the UK as it stands. Were you able to access content that you had purchased on iTunes and Apple? Great video and I look forward to your next one about it
Thank you! And yes, all of your purchased stuff is available.
The porn industry rubs its hands.
was hoping you'd show us how the video quality is like on streaming services but I guess copyright issues may occur 😐
Very hard to show that.
So, that’s just about the best review I’ve seen on that bit of kit! Love a pair, but don’t have that sort of dosh. I’m thinking the quest 3 might be a better option… but I have no idea.
Means a lot - thank you!
Hey Mark, does the Vision Pro pair up via Bluetooth with sound-cancelling headphones, and if so, how easy is it to do so?
Yep - very easy.
It’s ok Mark, I even watched all of the adverts to play my part in the costs of making this video.
Legend. And if that doesn’t work, at least it’ll buy me a pint.
The spatial video and immersive environments are what intrigue me the most. But it’s probably better to wait for future iterations.
Combining the two is wild. Played my spatial videos in the clouds above Haleakala - it felt a bit like i was watching my life flash before my eyes 😂
just don't even think about using in any car!! you could lose your driving license
I don’t know why anyone would ever think of doing this.
I can't get my head around 3.5k! Ridiculous.
I’ve literally got my head around it.
Did I WASTE my money on Apple Vision Pro in the UK? Yes.
I’m sorry to hear that.
Thanks Mark. I look forward to watching your updates. 👍🏻
Cheers mate 👍
I dont think many of the youtubers that bought this headset had any intentions of keeping it, all theyve done is review it, get paid for the views and then sent it back. You must be mental to have had that shipped over. Can you send it back? Before you think im some youtube troll, im not! im subscribed to your channel and you're my favourite reviewer on youtube but ive got to say that spending this amount of cash on this headset is a bit crazy. People seem to be losing interest in it already.
Appreciate the kind words! There’s a lot more to this, mate. It’s a business asset, and an investment in content. Everyone has their own content strategy, so I can’t comment on what others are doing, but I’m in this for the long run. It’s Apple’s punt on the next generation of computing and I’m fascinated to see what happens. Vision Pro is one step along that journey.
@MarkEllisReviews Hopefully you can recoup some of cash back on your kids mate. Me personally can't see it taking off but who knows.. 🤷♂️
Fellow Brit with similar plans here - Many questions answered. Thanks. 1 question. Can you load MP4 movies from a hard drive to the VP for off line viewing ? (not ones from Apple TV)
Glad I could help! You can indeed get content onto Vision Pro but not via an external drive. Easiest way I’ve found is via AirDrop.
Awesome - Thanks. That's the last hurdle cleared. Im heading to the USA on holiday (not vacation,) soon, so will book a demo appointment to give it a feel. All being well it will be travelling home with me.
Hey dude nice video 😀
Not for me
Nice video
Glad you didnt watch any video about the Vision Pro before this - can really feel your excitement/amazement through the video. Awesome stuff! 🎉
YES You did waste your money
You appear to be speaking with authority on this - have you tried it? Genuine question.
@@rangerkayla8824if anything Steve Jobs would have released this With the battery inside of the device making it even heavier. Steve Jobs didn’t always make the right call.
@@rangerkayla8824Imaginary Steve Jobs always agrees with me also.
@@rangerkayla8824and you speak for Steve Jobs?😂
@@joeycorrea601that’s Steve Jobs nephew 😂
Whether you like it or not , you DID waste your money on it.
Why? Detail, please.
@@MarkEllisReviews in my opinion, there’s no AR/VR headset worth 3500 $ even if it’s (that) impressive. At least that’s who I see it.
@@deutschehassan7296 fair enough 👍
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whenever you said wow whoah , i said it so many times too! 😂😂 i had fun with this review! thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!