@@DeanerHDAnd I won’t blame Quinn should he choose to, effective July of the calendar year during which his existing contract expires, walk away from the Canucks unless they trade him. It’s not too late to save this Canucks’ season from becoming a non-playoff one but the Nucks remain on this Sunday a.m. Pacific Time just a single point above the playoff line. give me above circumstances I see the Canucks as at best having a 50-50 chance this season of seeing playoff action.
It’s SO FRUSTRATING watching these games knowing that Hughes is closer and closer to possibly wanting out, and then we’re doomed for another 10 years. This sucks so much
The media in Vancouver is an absolute cancer to the team. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are probably one of, if not thee main reason players don't want to come play here. Imagine being on a struggling Canucks team, already being frustrated from losing a game and then immediately having to go talk to those parasites.
I think it is actually fair to say, Hughes is probably playing the best hockey of any D man in the league. Makar has superstars. He absolutely does not & is literally carrying the entire offence. From an Oil fan.
so what you are saying is that you would chooses Hughes over McDavid or Matthews????? cause lets face it, Hughes is tiny, doesnt hit and is one dimensional..he is just pure offense..so if you are right? then the Canucks should win a cup before Edmonton
Yeah like wtf are we even doing. The fact that Quinn has to share the backend with these pylons is shameful. Almost makes me miss Cole, even if he was constantly scoring on his own net...
It was good to see the boys come back three times to salvage a point. But, you can see what happens when Lankinen has an "average" performance. We also have to appreciate being able to see Quinn Hughes in the prime of his career.
Soucy somehow made deharnias look good this game. oh my our defence other than quin is so bad and it doesn’t help miller is in the bottom 5 in defence by a forward, at least petey can play defence.
Our team just looks completely lost in the offensive zone, almost no time spent getting looks, all of our offensive zone time is just in the corners, then it exits the zone. Maybe 10% of the time it gets to Hughes, does his usual move, gets a predictable shot and then they go set up in our zone and makes 5 on 5 look like a powerplay. Sucks, Lanks is playing phenomenal, even if he let in some softies. Thing that worries me the most is the inconsistency, can go from looking good to looking like a last place team in the span of 1 game. Not sure if there are enough games to fix that fundamentally big of a problem, but always hopeful. Merry Christmas buddy
Yeah you just have to hope that they can find their footing, but it seems as if they’re relying on Hughes more and more to do everything as the games go on. Merry Christmas to you as well!
Thought 1 - I don’t think it’s that unreasonable or crazy for the media to ask the captain about drama going on in the locker room. Clearly something is going on. Not sure why everyone is acting like it’s blasphemous to ask the players questions. They make millions of dollars and god forbid have to answer a hard question or two. All of us have stressful day jobs and have things come up at work, and we don’t make hundreds of thousands biweekly. Thought 2 - Miller really needs to backcheck in OT what on earth is he doing
Thought 1 , the only drama I see is the media not shutting up about whispers of Petey and JT not getting along and implying that the team is losing because they don't kiss each other. Its dumb. Last year this team looked like it couldn't lose. The core is the same. No one is asking in pressers about the actual problem with defense , and speculating about " relationship issues". Its embarrassing that the press wants the "he said she said" garbage and not asking about the real issues. Asking JT why him and his BF aren't getting along and then dragging Hughes into it.. He has a C for Captain on his shirt ... Not a D for Dad. Thought 2 . I'd say Bench Myers but who do we replace him with? 😂
5:30 pm Japan time. Decided to forgo this game and go hiking in the early winter sunshine. And glad I was I did that rather than stay home for this game. had a feeling I would have regretted it, what with the lack of defence and utter lack of harmony in this group. So, a trade in late December, early January will come. Can we have any doubt about that now? But you have to give up a lot to get something meaningful for them and that is exactly what is needed---so who will it be? DEANER, great summary and thanks for your video as always.
Great game. I had zero confidence in winning with our AHL backup goalie in net. Not sure why all of a sudden #1 goalies can’t play back to backs anymore but either way the boys did it and got the W
Deaner is right. The media IS insufferable! Let's keep it on the ice. Its not about anything else. Stop feeding the BS frenzy. I have respect for our host Deaner who doesn't give credence to conjecture or cater to clickbait. He serves up hockey talk, not soap opera, sewing circle, hand wringing, borrow a tampon, cry-yourself-to-sleep-with-the-hallway-light-on, gossip. No, the team's not playing like they did in the first half last year. We lost some key players, made some roster changes, and not everything worked out the way it was planned. We've had injuries to top guys and key positions, and we have a KID who may be struggling under the weight of a big, new, contract. But I think as they're heading into the Christmas break it's important for everybody to tighten their belts a little bit and adjust their expectations. I'm sure other teams are trying to bend us over cuz they know we need help, so even the management is having a hard time duplicating their success from last year. These are called struggles and you have to deal with them not whinge and complain all the time and make mountains out of molehills. Or what the f♧ck, just keep going nuts about it, whip yourselves to a frenzy, and have another riot. We could go down as the city that scored the first ever hooligan hat-trick. Vancouver the city that didn't win, but successfully kicked themselves in the cup.
I hope whatever management brings before the trade deadline line includes hard working players who can help light a fire under everyone’s butts to get these guys going and start holding themselves accountable. Right now (aside from Hughes & Sherwood) I see a lazy team. Also this losing streak should hopefully wake these guys up.
I feel like selling miller can go worse than Peterson. Miller seems like a guy who leads the team morally, while Peterson isn’t great lately. Plus considering what issues we face in defence these days, maybe trading him for a high level defender would be a reasonable way.
we really don't have the talent though. We have 5, third line deefencemen (maybe more like 3 and then 2 depth defencemen). This idea that were stacked with talent, is sort of ridiculous...
As a sens fan, we often watch Tim Stutzle have nights where he seems to be a level above everyone else on the ice... Hughes is multiple leveled anyone else on his team... Btw Leevi Meriläinen did have a good game, he couldn't do much on the goals on he got scored on but was solid the rest of the game... Stop the disrespect to justify your teams garbage play lol
Hughes hard carrying the game and the press scrum. Unfortunately the rest of the team is garbage. Millet with a bad game, EP40 can't find the scoresheet. Defence overall is terrible, Lankinen with an OT softy and Tocchet getting outcoached by Green of all people. Last year was a fluke. PERIOD.
Great job by Alvin to re-sign Myers for 3 more years, as well as bringing in Desharnais and Forbort…I feel like people give Alvin way too much slack just because his name isn’t “dim Jim Benning” this team is a mess and one of these primadona “stars” needs to go along with the whole D-core except Hughes and Hronek
I agree our defense is embarrassing aside from those two. Myers is particularly bad. Dude is always caught flat-footed and trying to catch up. Constantly takes dumb penalties at the worst times. The guy is a lanky fuck and doesn't seem to use his reach worth shit. Excuse my language.
I am giving management to Jan 14 2025 to fix the problems they knew existed after the end of the playoffs. After the All Star Game....their game suffered and they were luck to make it to the Oilers in round 2. Remember they had problems with shots on goal...now far worse because the defense is far weaker. Management wanted to fill out the D by hiring lower tier D men..they got them and perhaps thought they could trade them as fodder but I suspect you cannot even give them away now..ie Forbert and Desharnais. Branstrom you keep. We are missing a number 3 and 4 D man...H and H are good....3 and 4 and Soucy and Myers...good enough for third pairing but even they need protected minutes...we are 2 away...wished that D Petey or similar were ready so that we only need one top tier D man.....offence...Petey needs support even though I believe he should carry his own line...as much as Kuz was a defensive liability sometimes a team can afford to carry one of those types of players...real issue with him is 5 million a year....at lower cost I bring him back for Petey. Anyways...season is over unless right moves are made by Jan 14 or so.
The officiating of this game was also pretty horrible (Maybe in arena bias) but it was also quite horrible... (I say it alot but maybe one of the worst)
Vinny Deharnias! From the oilers with ❤😂 come on Canucks! I was so looking forward to the oilers beating your crap team and looser franchise in the playoffs AGAIN!
This team is letting him down man. Generational talent stuck in a pile of mud
Sad to see
@@DeanerHDAnd I won’t blame Quinn should he choose to, effective July of the calendar year during which his existing contract expires, walk away from the Canucks unless they trade him. It’s not too late to save this Canucks’ season from becoming a non-playoff one but the Nucks remain on this Sunday a.m. Pacific Time just a single point above the playoff line. give me above circumstances I see the Canucks as at best having a 50-50 chance this season of seeing playoff action.
It’s SO FRUSTRATING watching these games knowing that Hughes is closer and closer to possibly wanting out, and then we’re doomed for another 10 years. This sucks so much
I was watching with my grandpa and his summary by the end of the second period was that the canucks are starting to annoy him.
Tell him i feel the same way
The media in Vancouver is an absolute cancer to the team. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are probably one of, if not thee main reason players don't want to come play here. Imagine being on a struggling Canucks team, already being frustrated from losing a game and then immediately having to go talk to those parasites.
I think it is actually fair to say, Hughes is probably playing the best hockey of any D man in the league. Makar has superstars. He absolutely does not & is literally carrying the entire offence. From an Oil fan.
Honestly if I had to choose one player in the league to build around it would probably be Quinn
I'd rather have Quinn than McJesus
Cale Makar better
@@G_Ellis606well ur opinion is objectively insanely wrong 😂
so what you are saying is that you would chooses Hughes over McDavid or Matthews????? cause lets face it, Hughes is tiny, doesnt hit and is one dimensional..he is just pure offense..so if you are right? then the Canucks should win a cup before Edmonton
LOL.
Myers needs to go, Pete needs to stop shadowing miller
The hyperbole is painful. There's tons of less talented teams than Vancouver. Ottawa is the hottest team in the league and it went to OT.
Yeah, this vid is a reasonable analysis tainted by a shit-ton of bitter bias.
Soucy, Myers, Forbort, Deharnias, Juulsen....are FU**ING KILLING THIS TEAM
Yeah like wtf are we even doing. The fact that Quinn has to share the backend with these pylons is shameful. Almost makes me miss Cole, even if he was constantly scoring on his own net...
It was good to see the boys come back three times to salvage a point. But, you can see what happens when Lankinen has an "average" performance.
We also have to appreciate being able to see Quinn Hughes in the prime of his career.
I have Hughes on fantasy. He is a god.
Have him asw. Saving my squad
@@DeanerHD Same made me be 8-2 rn
Soucy somehow made deharnias look good this game. oh my our defence other than quin is so bad and it doesn’t help miller is in the bottom 5 in defence by a forward, at least petey can play defence.
Yeah the effort from miller is giving flashbacks of 2021
“This goalies cheeks man we scored 4 goals on him..” ……… they scored 5 on your goalie 😂😂😂
because 5 of our defencemen provided him with no help 🤷♂️
??? was that supposed to be a gottem?
Especially the OT winner. FUCKING. SOFT.
u a second-round exit. oilers gonna take u out.
Hughes was so good last night.
I think overall we could see the effort was there for some shifts but the Canucks really need to play 3 solid periods of hockey.
Our team just looks completely lost in the offensive zone, almost no time spent getting looks, all of our offensive zone time is just in the corners, then it exits the zone. Maybe 10% of the time it gets to Hughes, does his usual move, gets a predictable shot and then they go set up in our zone and makes 5 on 5 look like a powerplay.
Sucks, Lanks is playing phenomenal, even if he let in some softies.
Thing that worries me the most is the inconsistency, can go from looking good to looking like a last place team in the span of 1 game. Not sure if there are enough games to fix that fundamentally big of a problem, but always hopeful.
Merry Christmas buddy
Yeah you just have to hope that they can find their footing, but it seems as if they’re relying on Hughes more and more to do everything as the games go on.
Merry Christmas to you as well!
Thought 1 - I don’t think it’s that unreasonable or crazy for the media to ask the captain about drama going on in the locker room. Clearly something is going on. Not sure why everyone is acting like it’s blasphemous to ask the players questions. They make millions of dollars and god forbid have to answer a hard question or two. All of us have stressful day jobs and have things come up at work, and we don’t make hundreds of thousands biweekly.
Thought 2 - Miller really needs to backcheck in OT what on earth is he doing
I was wondering the same thing wtf
Thought 1 , the only drama I see is the media not shutting up about whispers of Petey and JT not getting along and implying that the team is losing because they don't kiss each other. Its dumb. Last year this team looked like it couldn't lose. The core is the same. No one is asking in pressers about the actual problem with defense , and speculating about " relationship issues". Its embarrassing that the press wants the "he said she said" garbage and not asking about the real issues. Asking JT why him and his BF aren't getting along and then dragging Hughes into it.. He has a C for Captain on his shirt ... Not a D for Dad.
Thought 2 . I'd say Bench Myers but who do we replace him with? 😂
Why tf is Myers still on this team
5:30 pm Japan time. Decided to forgo this game and go hiking in the early winter sunshine. And glad I was I did that rather than stay home for this game. had a feeling I would have regretted it, what with the lack of defence and utter lack of harmony in this group. So, a trade in late December, early January will come. Can we have any doubt about that now? But you have to give up a lot to get something meaningful for them and that is exactly what is needed---so who will it be? DEANER, great summary and thanks for your video as always.
Thank you! Good thing you did not put yourself through that game 😂
Great game. I had zero confidence in winning with our AHL backup goalie in net. Not sure why all of a sudden #1 goalies can’t play back to backs anymore but either way the boys did it and got the W
You guys played better then I expected out there, always had a soft spot for Ottawa gg’s man
I know we wanted some consistency in performances but another OT loss isn't what I'd hoped for
Why is Myers still in the NHL? much less resigned to this team?
Hell yes 🤷♂️
All of our defenseman aside from Quinn are average at best. Myers is a complete pylon and always takes a penalty at the worst possible moment.
Most the teams have stepped up there game givin the mid of the season but Canucks are still struggling
Deaner is right. The media IS insufferable! Let's keep it on the ice. Its not about anything else. Stop feeding the BS frenzy.
I have respect for our host Deaner who doesn't give credence to conjecture or cater to clickbait. He serves up hockey talk, not soap opera, sewing circle, hand wringing, borrow a tampon, cry-yourself-to-sleep-with-the-hallway-light-on, gossip.
No, the team's not playing like they did in the first half last year. We lost some key players, made some roster changes, and not everything worked out the way it was planned.
We've had injuries to top guys and key positions, and we have a KID who may be struggling under the weight of a big, new, contract.
But I think as they're heading into the Christmas break it's important for everybody to tighten their belts a little bit and adjust their expectations.
I'm sure other teams are trying to bend us over cuz they know we need help, so even the management is having a hard time duplicating their success from last year.
These are called struggles and you have to deal with them not whinge and complain all the time and make mountains out of molehills.
Or what the f♧ck, just keep going nuts about it, whip yourselves to a frenzy, and have another riot.
We could go down as the city that scored the first ever hooligan hat-trick.
Vancouver the city that didn't win, but successfully kicked themselves in the cup.
Miller is my favorite Canuck, I fucking hate to see him do this bad in the last week or so 😢
you gotta think quinns leaving after his contract is done right
Id think so lol it’s gonna be a sad day when that happens 😢 he’s the best. Carries the team every game. He deserves better team though.
I hope whatever management brings before the trade deadline line includes hard working players who can help light a fire under everyone’s butts to get these guys going and start holding themselves accountable. Right now (aside from Hughes & Sherwood) I see a lazy team.
Also this losing streak should hopefully wake these guys up.
I feel like selling miller can go worse than Peterson. Miller seems like a guy who leads the team morally, while Peterson isn’t great lately. Plus considering what issues we face in defence these days, maybe trading him for a high level defender would be a reasonable way.
Isnt great lately? Petterson signed his deal and mentally dipped.
we really don't have the talent though. We have 5, third line deefencemen (maybe more like 3 and then 2 depth defencemen). This idea that were stacked with talent, is sort of ridiculous...
The defense was horrible. I could say more but what's the point.
As a sens fan, we often watch Tim Stutzle have nights where he seems to be a level above everyone else on the ice... Hughes is multiple leveled anyone else on his team... Btw Leevi Meriläinen did have a good game, he couldn't do much on the goals on he got scored on but was solid the rest of the game... Stop the disrespect to justify your teams garbage play lol
McDavid 🤝 Hughes
Merry Christmas, Dean! Thank you for your great videos!!!
Thank you so much Dennis! Merry Christmas to you as well
Put Jt and Peter on a line together
Hughes hard carrying the game and the press scrum. Unfortunately the rest of the team is garbage. Millet with a bad game, EP40 can't find the scoresheet. Defence overall is terrible, Lankinen with an OT softy and Tocchet getting outcoached by Green of all people. Last year was a fluke. PERIOD.
Great job by Alvin to re-sign Myers for 3 more years, as well as bringing in Desharnais and Forbort…I feel like people give Alvin way too much slack just because his name isn’t “dim Jim Benning” this team is a mess and one of these primadona “stars” needs to go along with the whole D-core except Hughes and Hronek
I agree our defense is embarrassing aside from those two. Myers is particularly bad. Dude is always caught flat-footed and trying to catch up. Constantly takes dumb penalties at the worst times. The guy is a lanky fuck and doesn't seem to use his reach worth shit. Excuse my language.
I am giving management to Jan 14 2025 to fix the problems they knew existed after the end of the playoffs. After the All Star Game....their game suffered and they were luck to make it to the Oilers in round 2. Remember they had problems with shots on goal...now far worse because the defense is far weaker. Management wanted to fill out the D by hiring lower tier D men..they got them and perhaps thought they could trade them as fodder but I suspect you cannot even give them away now..ie Forbert and Desharnais. Branstrom you keep. We are missing a number 3 and 4 D man...H and H are good....3 and 4 and Soucy and Myers...good enough for third pairing but even they need protected minutes...we are 2 away...wished that D Petey or similar were ready so that we only need one top tier D man.....offence...Petey needs support even though I believe he should carry his own line...as much as Kuz was a defensive liability sometimes a team can afford to carry one of those types of players...real issue with him is 5 million a year....at lower cost I bring him back for Petey. Anyways...season is over unless right moves are made by Jan 14 or so.
Couldn't agree more brother....thank you for all the work🍁
Juulsen Friedman Desjardins need to go. Why didn't get jiricek. trade miller and hoglander and a 1st to Buffalo for power and cozens
Myers needs to go. He’s had chance after chance. He needs to go.
Too bad we signed him for 3 more years 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️brutal
The officiating of this game was also pretty horrible (Maybe in arena bias) but it was also quite horrible...
(I say it alot but maybe one of the worst)
(Ref held his hand right before the 2nd intermission and no call)
Yeah i forgot to mention that. Made no sense and I didn’t know they were allowed to do that…
Man we need to sit out myers why can't coaches don't see his play who signed him anyways
Vinny Deharnias! From the oilers with ❤😂 come on Canucks! I was so looking forward to the oilers beating your crap team and looser franchise in the playoffs AGAIN!