HI Gemma , i went from a Geo to a Swift to a Alpina 2 then a3 then a4.... Now I am flying a Ion 7 low B and could not be happier... I finally realized that I am not into XC,,.I fly in the mountains and On a higher class wing I get mentally tired after a hour.. Active flying a twitchy Wing all the time is not for everyone . Fly just fly and have fun.. Also the new wings even A wings are pretty amazing.. thanks for the great Videos...
Hi Gemma. I'm a coach & would like to give you a few pointers if you don't mind..... 1, Never let go of the brakes. 2, Always have the brakes in the correct hands at all times (no swapping them around) 3, Wear gloves at all times. 4, Hold your brakes the correct way not on top, you can even take a wrap if needed. 5, Flying coastal sites all the time is not going to help you step up to a high B.
1-4 do not apply if you do a ton of groundhandling and are on a groudhandling site. Yu can even find Raul Rodrigez (who's also "a coach") talking about it.
Beach wind is normally constant and that makes flying much easier with probably no collapse at all, so you can even fly an ENC glider with probably no issues. Therefore the beach is not the best place to try a glider and see how it reacts with non constant wind. So I beleive that If Gemma wants to know if she is really ready for a higher performance wing, she should fly at other spots in the countryside where wind is usually not so great and so constant.
Dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my girlfriend during the lockdown =)
I love hearing that mischievous laugh when someone starts to get comfortable and enjoy a new wing, or new launch etc. It's great to see the confidence and assertiveness increase in pilots.
One thing about 'seesawing'... Have you checked that your riser connection spacing is correct for your weight? According to EN the horizontal distance of the paraglider riser attachment points (measured from connector centrelines) "shall be set to 42 cm". In the case of a pilot's weight of less than 50 kg the horizontal dimension is reduced to 38 cm. In the case of a pilot's weight of more than 80 kg the horizontal dimension is increased to 46 cm. That range is relatively narrow, because the distance has a huge impact on weight shift. Too wide and you can 'seesaw', too narrow and it can become easy to get riser twist. I used to fly about 5cm over the spec and experienced quite a bit of seesaw, especially right after takeoff.
In a such conditions (just soaring in a sea breeze) without thermals - if you have just 1 year (let it be 50 hours) of experience - you are able to get EN-D and feel ok with it. Because this certifications given due to behavior in collapses and strong movements like deep spiral. Also moder EN-D are quite easy, they may have a lot of passive safety with even EN-A for most of tests in certification. So it's not really important: is it low B or high B if you are soaring, no dramatical difference.
about talkativeness - simply the weight range of the wing may be not for you, it's not about class I think. Most of wings when you weight closer to the upper limit are becoming much stable
Btw I do not recommend to take brakes by itself, by handles outside of it. Better to skip hands inside of it handles. Strongly recommended for safety, it would become critical if you lose brakes somehow
All of you guys are losing your brakes while ground handling. Maybe this conditions are pretty safe, but with stronger wind and/or thermals - this will become critical
I really like you guys and I enjoy watching you fly over there in the good air by the ocean. I live in the middle of the United States with a bunch of wrinkly prunish ground around me. I'm very poor and my mom died and left me some money so I bought a used epsilon 9 and I'm learning to fly a used epsilon 9 it's a high-end bee wing.. it's a little bit tricky I'm still learning the ground handling so far I only flew about 15 ft and landed on my face. I'm ugly anyway it's works out. Thanks for starting where you did and going out with a little higher-end wing and giving it a try.
I just progress from flying a low B (UP Kibo) to a high B (Ozone Rush 6). It's a whole different flying experience. The performance, climb, glide ratio, speed is soo much better. Definitely more feedback and a little intimidating in stronger thermal conditions. Still getting used to it.
Yeah, I still remember vividly when at around 50 hours I went from an A (ozone mojo 1) to a high B (BGD Base) and it felt like an absolute rocket ship. Especially in speed, glide and agility
@@Sethgolas nah the stall flights are 15- 20 min max and up to 6 stalls a flight I actually ended the pilotage session with 95 stalls (over ≈ 1 month). Could have done more but had to stop some days because of shoulder pain… I think someone advanced and with a fast pack could do 100 stalls in a few days in such spot. I am now at 179h for ≈ 230 flights so most hours are XC / thermal training
Kind of fun to see how strategic you are with the golden rule thing. Its a nightmare teaching friends and family but you have a really good style and way of letting her solve the problem rather then telling her. But nudgeing her in right direction so to speak
Hi, Gemma and André. Gemma, you look much lighter than André. So maybe André's wing is too big for you, thats why its moving a lot, and dont feel enough in control of the wing. The fact that you are the last still flying can be because you are too light for that wing. The best is to be at 3/4 of the weight range, the wing steer better, and is more responsive. If you tried the right size wing for you, maybe you will like it better. Maybe its a case of wrong size instead of wrong category.
That’s about the same thing I was thinking about. An paraglider is ok with some overload but nog enough weight it can go everywhere and feel unstable. Cause normally high B or even C wings fly like a dream on the coast but only if you are in the top of the weight range or even slight above.
@2:17 some deformations on the leading edge is seen. Do you also see it while flying? We have two Rush 5 in my club and at least in 50% of the flights we see those deformations and they won't disappear.
hi Andre, I have a swift 4 and I am coming from a swift. This wing awakens a spirit within you that invites you to fly and fly in any condition, once you adapt to the swift you will not feel the same again in another B wing, ENJOY IT
That's a question only you can answer as it depends on many factors. The most important question for you is why do you want to step up and how do you feel about it. Also if you can, try to fly the wing before committing
@@AndreBandarra1 I started the competition last year and I am a super lover of xc flight. I think that I can make it with my wing, but I see myself in 5 years flying CCC wings, that's why I want step up a class every 2 years.
@@FlyWithSergio I think it's dangerous to set a goal like this. Try to master your wing and then progress but don't set time intervals to change the class. For my progression I tested in spring conditions in the alps. If you can fly it in strong conditions and feel comftable with it, it should be fine. To be sure test out everything extreme in a SIV course. I think I will keep my Base 2 for several years to come. The next thing for me will be my first pod harness 😉. (I changed quite fast after 10 months/40 h from A to high B)
I noticed at 6:00 you launched before the pilot on the orange Niviuk with the ridge on their right had passed. I don't know whether you saw him/her, whether they were already out away from the very light ridge lift or you pushed them out? Either way, it didn't seem the best observation/timing to launch or decision to turn left at that moment. Maybe that's why everyone else was on the beach down below. haha Comment was meant constructively. I always enjoy your videos. Andre, I also sent you a FB PM about big ear wing turning physics. 👍
Ah, I see what you did there. A clever bit of post-production 'youtube editor' clipping, since my original comment. The launch and turn to the left were continuous/seamless before. We all make mistakes, no shame in owning it.😉
I found the swift 5 to be very much more chatty than my low b and my rush 5. At first it was somewhat intimidating. Now I’ve just ordered my second swift5. No need to move up to quickly if you’re not comfortable.
So you would think I would know this.. so when they class a wing from A to D do you start with A at the bottom and go up to D so the lower is safer and the higher is less forgiving ? another words a high B is less forgiving then a low B and a low C is less forgiving then a high B ? I fly a Spyder3 and its a B wing and I'm pretty sure its has an A rating in almost every category but one or two so if the wing even has only one B rating out of all the test it will be a class B wing That being said how can one look up the grading report of a rated wing ?
@@FranzK4491 may I ask why you feel that way? The Buzz Z6 is just the heavy weight version of the Geo 6 which Gemma already flies and says she feels comfortable on.
@@Andyg2g i flow both and i dont feel any Feedback on the Buzz, i kow it is just the heavy geo but i really dont know how i can fly it in hard conditions. On coast its easy but in austrian alps i need more feedback or i get some bad collapse. Just try it
engraçado acho que o maior problema na adaptação é descobrir a posicção natural da asa em relação ao piloto... algumas velas simplesmente nao estao posicionadas exatamente na vertical da cabeça, pelo que deu para ver no video o swift fica um pouco a frente... como esperado numa vela B hot
Fun flying but your flying position on that harness looks edgy. Your brain is telling you not yet, never mind the behaviour of the wing. And doing a siv course to find out if this level is for you? My money is on you saying no to that too, you're much too honest and sensible!!🙂😀
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HI Gemma , i went from a Geo to a Swift to a Alpina 2 then a3 then a4.... Now I am flying a Ion 7 low B and could not be happier... I finally realized that I am not into XC,,.I fly in the mountains and On a higher class wing I get mentally tired after a hour.. Active flying a twitchy Wing all the time is not for everyone . Fly just fly and have fun.. Also the new wings even A wings are pretty amazing.. thanks for the great Videos...
Hi Gemma. I'm a coach & would like to give you a few pointers if you don't mind..... 1, Never let go of the brakes. 2, Always have the brakes in the correct hands at all times (no swapping them around) 3, Wear gloves at all times. 4, Hold your brakes the correct way not on top, you can even take a wrap if needed. 5, Flying coastal sites all the time is not going to help you step up to a high B.
1-4 do not apply if you do a ton of groundhandling and are on a groudhandling site. Yu can even find Raul Rodrigez (who's also "a coach") talking about it.
Beach wind is normally constant and that makes flying much easier with probably no collapse at all, so you can even fly an ENC glider with probably no issues. Therefore the beach is not the best place to try a glider and see how it reacts with non constant wind. So I beleive that If Gemma wants to know if she is really ready for a higher performance wing, she should fly at other spots in the countryside where wind is usually not so great and so constant.
The girl fly like "paralised" which means poor skills to fly. Sorry.
@@MrRemota iI agree. She has good ground handling but but not such good flying skills. Some flights in the mountains would help a lot. Or a SIV
"Hi evraybudday!" - love Gemma's accent so much lol
Proper norvern accent
Dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my girlfriend during the lockdown =)
@Noah Jaziel yup, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)
i love her wingeh :)
The U-turn vision in the background is so lovely 👌
I love hearing that mischievous laugh when someone starts to get comfortable and enjoy a new wing, or new launch etc. It's great to see the confidence and assertiveness increase in pilots.
One thing about 'seesawing'... Have you checked that your riser connection spacing is correct for your weight? According to EN the horizontal distance of the paraglider riser attachment points (measured from connector centrelines) "shall be set
to 42 cm".
In the case of a pilot's weight of less than 50 kg the horizontal dimension is reduced to 38 cm.
In the case of a pilot's weight of more than 80 kg the horizontal dimension is increased to 46 cm.
That range is relatively narrow, because the distance has a huge impact on weight shift. Too wide and you can 'seesaw', too narrow and it can become easy to get riser twist. I used to fly about 5cm over the spec and experienced quite a bit of seesaw, especially right after takeoff.
Solid advice...I'm watching this a little out of step, having seen your SIV U/L's.
In a such conditions (just soaring in a sea breeze) without thermals - if you have just 1 year (let it be 50 hours) of experience - you are able to get EN-D and feel ok with it. Because this certifications given due to behavior in collapses and strong movements like deep spiral. Also moder EN-D are quite easy, they may have a lot of passive safety with even EN-A for most of tests in certification. So it's not really important: is it low B or high B if you are soaring, no dramatical difference.
about talkativeness - simply the weight range of the wing may be not for you, it's not about class I think. Most of wings when you weight closer to the upper limit are becoming much stable
Btw I do not recommend to take brakes by itself, by handles outside of it. Better to skip hands inside of it handles. Strongly recommended for safety, it would become critical if you lose brakes somehow
All of you guys are losing your brakes while ground handling. Maybe this conditions are pretty safe, but with stronger wind and/or thermals - this will become critical
I really like you guys and I enjoy watching you fly over there in the good air by the ocean. I live in the middle of the United States with a bunch of wrinkly prunish ground around me. I'm very poor and my mom died and left me some money so I bought a used epsilon 9 and I'm learning to fly a used epsilon 9 it's a high-end bee wing.. it's a little bit tricky I'm still learning the ground handling so far I only flew about 15 ft and landed on my face. I'm ugly anyway it's works out. Thanks for starting where you did and going out with a little higher-end wing and giving it a try.
I just progress from flying a low B (UP Kibo) to a high B (Ozone Rush 6).
It's a whole different flying experience.
The performance, climb, glide ratio, speed is soo much better.
Definitely more feedback and a little intimidating in stronger thermal conditions.
Still getting used to it.
Yeah, I still remember vividly when at around 50 hours I went from an A (ozone mojo 1) to a high B (BGD Base) and it felt like an absolute rocket ship. Especially in speed, glide and agility
@@AndreBandarra1 I went to a low B after 8 flights (initial training) but still don't feel like going to a high B after 100 hours and 87 stalls
@@PhilippeLarcher 87 Stalls? Were all your hours in SIV?
@@Sethgolas nah the stall flights are 15- 20 min max and up to 6 stalls a flight
I actually ended the pilotage session with 95 stalls (over ≈ 1 month). Could have done more but had to stop some days because of shoulder pain… I think someone advanced and with a fast pack could do 100 stalls in a few days in such spot.
I am now at 179h for ≈ 230 flights so most hours are XC / thermal training
Kind of fun to see how strategic you are with the golden rule thing. Its a nightmare teaching friends and family but you have a really good style and way of letting her solve the problem rather then telling her. But nudgeing her in right direction so to speak
High Bs are the best! No hassle in da castle! Fly Nova wings and give up the HYPE! :D
I find really strange the amount of break at the takeoff i'm always at the pulleys specifically with low wind
hands up is more useful in high wind
Hi, Gemma and André.
Gemma, you look much lighter than André. So maybe André's wing is too big for you, thats why its moving a lot, and dont feel enough in control of the wing.
The fact that you are the last still flying can be because you are too light for that wing.
The best is to be at 3/4 of the weight range, the wing steer better, and is more responsive.
If you tried the right size wing for you, maybe you will like it better.
Maybe its a case of wrong size instead of wrong category.
That’s about the same thing I was thinking about.
An paraglider is ok with some overload but nog enough weight it can go everywhere and feel unstable. Cause normally high B or even C wings fly like a dream on the coast but only if you are in the top of the weight range or even slight above.
The Swift is the easiest wing to kite. Especially compared to my Delta and Avid. It comes up effortlessly in light air. Is yours out of trim?
Now try a Thermal.
@2:17 some deformations on the leading edge is seen. Do you also see it while flying? We have two Rush 5 in my club and at least in 50% of the flights we see those deformations and they won't disappear.
Yea! Everyone else is grounded and out, and Gemma's RULING the sky LONG after. Way to go, girl!!! Kickin it.
Very clear, specially the sub optimal bit, jaja
hi Andre, I have a swift 4 and I am coming from a swift. This wing awakens a spirit within you that invites you to fly and fly in any condition, once you adapt to the swift you will not feel the same again in another B wing, ENJOY IT
Um dia destes ainda largo o motor e experimento o voô livre. Bom video
Great vid.
Love your channel!
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it!
Hi, nice review. What is the type/model of your lightweight harness ? Thanks
Thanks for making an edit of this. Great to see your experience trying a slightly higher wing. Surprised by the difference.
Hello. How do you keep the wing one meter from the ground when groundhandling? I can't keep like that. Tx.
Great flying 😀
I fly a Low Beah... love that accent!
Im noticing the trailing edge has fold damage from packing
Why are your brake handles not in your hands whilst ground handling, would save save a lot of fumbling about on launch. Happy landings
I am pretending to go from base 2 (high B) to volt 4 (high C 2liner)...Would be a too much high step up? around 120h/year
That's a question only you can answer as it depends on many factors. The most important question for you is why do you want to step up and how do you feel about it. Also if you can, try to fly the wing before committing
@@AndreBandarra1 I started the competition last year and I am a super lover of xc flight. I think that I can make it with my wing, but I see myself in 5 years flying CCC wings, that's why I want step up a class every 2 years.
@@FlyWithSergio I think it's dangerous to set a goal like this. Try to master your wing and then progress but don't set time intervals to change the class. For my progression I tested in spring conditions in the alps. If you can fly it in strong conditions and feel comftable with it, it should be fine. To be sure test out everything extreme in a SIV course.
I think I will keep my Base 2 for several years to come. The next thing for me will be my first pod harness 😉. (I changed quite fast after 10 months/40 h from A to high B)
@Andre Bandarra will you be doing a review or testing out the new BGD Kiss in the future?
If I get to fly one, yeah why not
I noticed at 6:00 you launched before the pilot on the orange Niviuk with the ridge on their right had passed. I don't know whether you saw him/her, whether they were already out away from the very light ridge lift or you pushed them out? Either way, it didn't seem the best observation/timing to launch or decision to turn left at that moment. Maybe that's why everyone else was on the beach down below. haha Comment was meant constructively. I always enjoy your videos. Andre, I also sent you a FB PM about big ear wing turning physics. 👍
Ah, I see what you did there. A clever bit of post-production 'youtube editor' clipping, since my original comment. The launch and turn to the left were continuous/seamless before. We all make mistakes, no shame in owning it.😉
very nice video :) great job
Price please
In't past! :P hehe ...P.S Whats that harness you use? Thanks!
I found the swift 5 to be very much more chatty than my low b and my rush 5. At first it was somewhat intimidating. Now I’ve just ordered my second swift5. No need to move up to quickly if you’re not comfortable.
So you would think I would know this.. so when they class a wing from A to D do you start with A at the bottom and go up to D so the lower is safer and the higher is less forgiving ? another words a high B is less forgiving then a low B and a low C is less forgiving then a high B ? I fly a Spyder3 and its a B wing and I'm pretty sure its has an A rating in almost every category but one or two so if the wing even has only one B rating out of all the test it will be a class B wing That being said how can one look up the grading report of a rated wing ?
That's right Eloy, it works as you described. As for where to look at test reports have a look here para-test.com/
@@AndreBandarra1 Thank you so much
Hi Gemma and Andre, where is that coastal site, and generally what is the main wind direction that you experience on the coast? Thanks.
David Donnelly Praia da Gralha, Portugal
What are you gaining on the swift over the Geo?
The Swift has more performance than the Geo, but she just tried it because it was available and to see the difference.
huge opportunity cost switching to the swift , when you could KEEP YOUR GEO and spend that money on SIV and have the time of your life !
Nice 👍
Try a Buzz6???... Lol Thanks for posting...
Better dont try a buzz z6, or you dont like ozone Gliders anymore.
@@FranzK4491 may I ask why you feel that way? The Buzz Z6 is just the heavy weight version of the Geo 6 which Gemma already flies and says she feels comfortable on.
@@Andyg2g i flow both and i dont feel any Feedback on the Buzz, i kow it is just the heavy geo but i really dont know how i can fly it in hard conditions. On coast its easy but in austrian alps i need more feedback or i get some bad collapse. Just try it
Vocês fasem paracer tão fácil
engraçado acho que o maior problema na adaptação é descobrir a posicção natural da asa em relação ao piloto... algumas velas simplesmente nao estao posicionadas exatamente na vertical da cabeça, pelo que deu para ver no video o swift fica um pouco a frente... como esperado numa vela B hot
You are obsessed with groundhandling!! Jaja. Nobody ever did it that much. I know, we are kamikazes and like to fly...jaja
Go Gemma Go! (>* ❤
DONT DO IT GIRL
Fly in the alp not in dinamic soaring !!! In the dinamic Is Easy you fly Enzo possibilità for you site
Fun flying but your flying position on that harness looks edgy. Your brain is telling you not yet, never mind the behaviour of the wing. And doing a siv course to find out if this level is for you? My money is on you saying no to that too, you're much too honest and sensible!!🙂😀
If you have to ask the answer is no.
Ребята, сделайте плз русский субтитры!!!!
Вы нам поможете?
@@AndreBandarra1 я бы помог, но как?)
Cc को हिन्दी मे करो ना दीदी ताकी आप की बाते हमे भी समझ आये ?
first 😉