Thank you for taking the time to X-Ray and explain the differences in these saws. It's very helpful. Kind regards as warm wishes from West Yorkshire, UK. Thom
excellent video! I love my silky's very much. for me pocketboy 130 is like an EDC saw which I often use in the garden. 170 is my allround bushcraft saw while 210 and 230 are for occasional larger logs or trimming large trees. You have to be careful using the large saws on small pieces of wood as the saws are likely to get stuck and bend in thin fresh branches. My 230 saw blade broke and shattered injuring my hand with the almost glass like pieces. I now have a new blade on it and I only use it for thick branches. I have to be careful as silky components are really expensive in the Netherlands. Last week I was trimming a large tree and all my family was amazed by how quick the silky was.
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Very informative.... I have seen many videos from famous youtubers about this product but yours was the best in my opinion. Thank you for making the time to make this video.
Most woodsmen understand that Silky is the best. Here in the USA, there are some who prefer Laplanders -- these are the people who haven't tried Silky yet! For my Silky 240mm saws I have purchased Condor Outdoor brand MA31 pouches (for single P90 & UMP 45 magazines). The pouch's Molle compatibility means it attaches perfectly to PALS-equipped packs. The big Silky 240 fits snugly, but in my opinion, that is an ADVANTAGE. It's very affordably priced on Amazon. Color choices are black, olive drab green, multicam, and coyote tan. I think this is a must-have accessory for the Silky. Outside Japan, where trees may demand something longer than the folders you've reviewed, I recommend the 11.4-ounce non-folding Silky Saw Genki 550-33, available on Amazon for under $60 without the sheath. Make/buy a scabbard, strap it to the outside of your pack, and you can then march fearlessly into the woods. This "competition" high-tech saw, is very light, very powerful, and very fast. When processing wood for fires, let this (not an axe) get you started.
+Raphael Frommer I'd have to agree with you. I used the Laplander first before I got my Pocketboy 130 and couldn't believe how such a small saw that could fit in the accessory pocket of my BK-7 sheath was able to cut limbs big enough for a one-stick fire so easily. I've been using a Corona 10" folding saw for a couple of years now. It's pretty damned good, and is a great price, but It'll be interesting to see how it compares to the Silky Gomboy 240 I just ordered yesterday. I wish I'd seen this video before I ordered it. I probably would have gotten the Pocketboy 170 instead. Oh, well. It's not like I won't have use for all three, and the 240 was at a really good price on Amazon. Btw, thanks for the heads-up on the Condor pouches. I was looking for a way to carry the 240. this will do nicely.
Well done and good table-top demonstration... these are exceptionally efficient pull-saws. Pull motion must be emphasized to people unfamiliar... however the cutting results are second to none.
I live in Colorado and I keep a Katanaboy in my little Subaru. With all the beetle killed trees, you never know when you need to clear a forest access road, and the Katanaboy can go through a 10 inch tree in minutes. I accurately felled an 8 inch diameter tree with it in two and a half minutes. People may argue that a chainsaw is better, but you have to have oil and fuel and space to store a chainsaw. If I need to cut a season's worth of wood, the Katanaboy is the wrong tool, but for portability and trail clearing, it absolutely rocks.
It's been said Wako san but your English speaking subscribers will all be very pleased to see a video from you. I am watching your Japanese channel also but my Japanese isn't getting any better! Please keep posting English language videos! Thanks.
excellent overview, very cool to see the xrays of the handles.. a good deal of useful information as always. for me the pocketboy 130 is my favorite for carrying in my pack as an EDC type saw.. for general camping, hiking, bushcraft, etc.. it's serviceable for me to cut large enough wood for a smaller fire for camping / cooking imo. a nice, compact, and very useful tool.. i think the 130 beats the pants off the bahco laplander.. i even compared it head to head with my uncles laplander. lol
I carry a 210 because it fits neatly into a pocket, and does a surprising amount of work for a saw of its size. It does everything I need to do on a camping trip, and more. One of my sons carries a 170, and loves it.
I really like my Gomboy 210. The mid length is a nice compromise for me in temperate North American forests. I can get bigger rounds than with the pocket boy, but it's small enough to pack easy and still handles smaller branches and trees deftly.
Doc: When does trout season open, looking forward to you catching a few fish, making a fire with this saw, and cooking some rice and trout, with an orange....and that very cool equipment you have....I wonder if Cold Steel makes a bear spray?
Dear Doc Thank you for your reply and guidance. I have watched your deer hunting knives fr 1 to 152 and other tools, dish videos fr the passed 3 months very interesting knowledge hope you can make more for the "knives people" Take good care and a very HAPPY LUNAR NEW aYEAR
I must say I enjoy your videos very much very good information I have two Silky saw and I have the course blades I find that you really have to let the blade do the cutting if you force it they will bind. But they are the best folding saws you can buy and worth the money.
Hello :) I have ordered and received some time ago a Gomboy 240 medium teeth from Japan and it seems to be a.newer version - there is no plastic top on the lock and the handle pattern is a bit different. The case is different also. Either way, it is awesome and I am very happy with it :) Thank you for the nice vids, stay safe!
I like the look of your pocket boy saw,I not sure if they sell those in UK..I have been using my Bahco Laplander for a few years now with no problems..But I would like to know in your opinion what are the best stones to get a good convex edge..
Dear Doc:I am your new fan and I often using knives in my house kitchen but not in the field.Any comments about "Naniwa" a janpenese wet stone? I learned a lot of knives knowledge fr you and you the BEST
+Mark Foo Chosera is the top series from Naniwa. If you want to sharpen your knife very easily and quickly, you should buy Shapton Ha-no-kuromaku 1000, 2000, Chosera 3000, and SK-11 diamond plate for flattening stones. Thanks.
Hey +virtuovice I'm going to be traveling to Japan very soon, are there any stores over there that carry Silky saws? I would rather not go through the airport with my Gomboy. Plus I need a new one anyways.
using the pocket boy 170 for few years now, just broke the tip from the blade (not a single tooth) and cut in the finger once (this saw cuts deep and ugly!) greets from germany
+Emory Smith I don't think so. By the looks of the teeth it wold be very difficult to get a file in there. Also, if you've seen wranglerstar video on making a pole saw from a silky replacement saw, you would have to use something like a small diamond stone, because the tempering on the blades is a beast. Cody gave up and used the plasma torch hehe. Even if you could drill a blade with a cobalt drill bit, that's one thing and sharpening is another.
TheBarry1394 It really disappoints me that so many of these companies would rather you throw away their saws and buy a new one rather than make a product intended to last. Maybe one day this will change, but I don't think so.
Thanks for the informative video! I'm looking for a saw for pruning and grafting. Thus, sawing speed is good but a smooth cut and allowing me to access tight spots to cut 1-3" diameter wood is more important.... I was thinking of the ARS 130 fine tooth for this. Or do you have any other saws you can recommend? I was also looking at this one by ARS www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002EQAY0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_5&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER ps It would be great if you could demonstrate the difference in cuts of the medium blade vs fine blade on live wood (or newly felled)!
Larry Duran I see your point. The main demographic for Silky's are indeed professional pruners, so they definitely are higher end. I use mine while camping to process wood for fires and the Firebox that I do my cooking on. I get out often enough that I justify carrying premium equipment.
The benefits of having an x-ray machine at work :) an excellent comparison, thanks for sharing
Nice to see another video posted on your English channel! Thanks!
Best review of the Silky saws I have come across!! Thank you so much!
Thank you very much Wako,
We all missed your videos
, You were missing a little
Good to see you again, thank you very much.
Thank you for taking the time to X-Ray and explain the differences in these saws. It's very helpful.
Kind regards as warm wishes from West Yorkshire, UK.
Thom
Thank you from California , Love the Silky Saws . Much safer then a chainsaw or an axe .
excellent video! I love my silky's very much. for me pocketboy 130 is like an EDC saw which I often use in the garden. 170 is my allround bushcraft saw while 210 and 230 are for occasional larger logs or trimming large trees.
You have to be careful using the large saws on small pieces of wood as the saws are likely to get stuck and bend in thin fresh branches. My 230 saw blade broke and shattered injuring my hand with the almost glass like pieces. I now have a new blade on it and I only use it for thick branches. I have to be careful as silky components are really expensive in the Netherlands.
Last week I was trimming a large tree and all my family was amazed by how quick the silky was.
Dutch Bushcraft Knives now you tell me :p Luckily I still have my axe to decimate smaller branches.
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Thank you for posting this, it is a very good look at the saws, you have helped me decide which one I should purchase.
Very informative.... I have seen many videos from famous youtubers about this product but yours was the best in my opinion. Thank you for making the time to make this video.
Wako-san, excellent video. Silky is #1 choice for saw. Good to see another video from you.
Most woodsmen understand that Silky is the best. Here in the USA, there are some who prefer Laplanders -- these are the people who haven't tried Silky yet!
For my Silky 240mm saws I have purchased Condor Outdoor brand MA31 pouches (for single P90 & UMP 45 magazines). The pouch's Molle compatibility means it attaches perfectly to PALS-equipped packs. The big Silky 240 fits snugly, but in my opinion, that is an ADVANTAGE. It's very affordably priced on Amazon. Color choices are black, olive drab green, multicam, and coyote tan. I think this is a must-have accessory for the Silky.
Outside Japan, where trees may demand something longer than the folders you've reviewed, I recommend the 11.4-ounce non-folding Silky Saw Genki 550-33, available on Amazon for under $60 without the sheath. Make/buy a scabbard, strap it to the outside of your pack, and you can then march fearlessly into the woods. This "competition" high-tech saw, is very light, very powerful, and very fast. When processing wood for fires, let this (not an axe) get you started.
+Raphael Frommer I'd have to agree with you. I used the Laplander first before I got my Pocketboy 130 and couldn't believe how such a small saw that could fit in the accessory pocket of my BK-7 sheath was able to cut limbs big enough for a one-stick fire so easily.
I've been using a Corona 10" folding saw for a couple of years now. It's pretty damned good, and is a great price, but It'll be interesting to see how it compares to the Silky Gomboy 240 I just ordered yesterday. I wish I'd seen this video before I ordered it. I probably would have gotten the Pocketboy 170 instead. Oh, well. It's not like I won't have use for all three, and the 240 was at a really good price on Amazon.
Btw, thanks for the heads-up on the Condor pouches. I was looking for a way to carry the 240. this will do nicely.
Well done and good table-top demonstration... these are exceptionally efficient pull-saws. Pull motion must be emphasized to people unfamiliar... however the cutting results are second to none.
I live in Colorado and I keep a Katanaboy in my little Subaru. With all the beetle killed trees, you never know when you need to clear a forest access road, and the Katanaboy can go through a 10 inch tree in minutes. I accurately felled an 8 inch diameter tree with it in two and a half minutes. People may argue that a chainsaw is better, but you have to have oil and fuel and space to store a chainsaw. If I need to cut a season's worth of wood, the Katanaboy is the wrong tool, but for portability and trail clearing, it absolutely rocks.
Chris Moore It's also much safer than a chainsaw
Thank you for the review. Very nice to see what is inside the handles. Enjoy your videos.
The Silky saws looks like great tools. I would love to try some out one day.
Thanks a lot for the comparison - Martin
Wow. Finally someone explains in detail about silky saws.
It's been said Wako san but your English speaking subscribers will all be very pleased to see a video from you. I am watching your Japanese channel also but my Japanese isn't getting any better! Please keep posting English language videos! Thanks.
excellent overview, very cool to see the xrays of the handles.. a good deal of useful information as always. for me the pocketboy 130 is my favorite for carrying in my pack as an EDC type saw.. for general camping, hiking, bushcraft, etc.. it's serviceable for me to cut large enough wood for a smaller fire for camping / cooking imo. a nice, compact, and very useful tool.. i think the 130 beats the pants off the bahco laplander.. i even compared it head to head with my uncles laplander. lol
Thank you, good video, I learned something new. Yesterday I ordered the katanaboy, arriving today
Nice comparison. Thank you for sharing. Always love your videos
I have been looking at these for backpacking. Very useful video, thanks.
I carry a 210 because it fits neatly into a pocket, and does a surprising amount of work for a saw of its size. It does everything I need to do on a camping trip, and more. One of my sons carries a 170, and loves it.
I always learn valuable information from your video content . Thank you .
Very well explained
Thank you I will use this information in my next folding saw purchase decision
I really like my Gomboy 210. The mid length is a nice compromise for me in temperate North American forests. I can get bigger rounds than with the pocket boy, but it's small enough to pack easy and still handles smaller branches and trees deftly.
Doc: When does trout season open, looking forward to you catching a few fish, making a fire with this saw, and cooking some rice and trout, with an orange....and that very cool equipment you have....I wonder if Cold Steel makes a bear spray?
Im already sold on your saws I own 4 Silkys and awesome does not describe them .
Dear Doc
Thank you for your reply and guidance. I have watched your deer hunting knives fr 1 to 152 and other tools, dish videos fr the passed 3 months very interesting knowledge hope you can make more for the "knives people" Take good care and a very HAPPY LUNAR NEW aYEAR
Excellent video!!! Thank you very much!
I have a silky 240 gomboy for general purpose things, and a silky bigboy for big jobs. I love them both very much, great videos virtuovice.
Thanks for a very good comparison video.
I must say I enjoy your videos very much very good information I have two Silky saw and I have the course blades I find that you really have to let the blade do the cutting if you force it they will bind. But they are the best folding saws you can buy and worth the money.
Hello :) I have ordered and received some time ago a Gomboy 240 medium teeth from Japan and it seems to be a.newer version - there is no plastic top on the lock and the handle pattern is a bit different. The case is different also. Either way, it is awesome and I am very happy with it :) Thank you for the nice vids, stay safe!
I ordered the 240 Gomboy from Japan on ebay and receoved also the new version like you said. Glad to know am not the only one.
+Pitirat Osotsapa Got mine from ebay too :) Enjoy!
+PainSorrowFury I didn't know about the new handle and case. They look much nicer. Thanks.
I take the Gomboy 240 and Firebox camping with me (bought about a year ago), thanks to your videos.
Thank you so much for the great information, my friend. :D
Very helpful video. Thanks
I like the look of your pocket boy saw,I not sure if they sell those in UK..I have been using my Bahco Laplander for a few years now with no problems..But I would like to know in your opinion what are the best stones to get a good convex edge..
excellent describing with x-ray !
Thanks a lot , your video are helpful as usual.
Can you please do a new series of small fixed blade & neck knives in your food prep and foraging?
I saw nutnfancy reviewed these a few months back, but I forgot about them. Thanks for the review!
Dear Doc:I am your new fan and I often using knives in my house kitchen but not in the field.Any comments about "Naniwa" a janpenese wet stone? I learned a lot of knives knowledge fr you and you the BEST
+Mark Foo Chosera is the top series from Naniwa. If you want to sharpen your knife very easily and quickly, you should buy Shapton Ha-no-kuromaku 1000, 2000, Chosera 3000, and SK-11 diamond plate for flattening stones. Thanks.
i have silky boy 130 this is very compact and easy to carry i always put it my rucksack :)
Silky Super Accel for me. Thanks.
thanks for another great video
Have you used any of the fine tooth Silky blades as a bone saw during your deer butchering?
+David B No. But I have ever cut stag horns off the head with the regular teeth. It was an easy job. Thanks.
silky make great saws.
doc, my gomboy 240 came with a clear plastic hinged carrying case. just bought it couple mos ago.
You are Number 1 in bushcraft video's
Hello again I am looking for my second Silky saw.
please tell us what your thoughts are on Gomboy Curve 210mm medium teeth.
thank you!
Informative video.
What is you opinion on the Bahco vs the Corona?
thank you very much for english!
já me increvi com certeza, adorei seu canal e seus vídeos. boa sorte.
日本人の私にとても聴き取り易い英語で
英語の勉強にもなりますね
comboy 240 good good saw like it
Hey +virtuovice I'm going to be traveling to Japan very soon, are there any stores over there that carry Silky saws? I would rather not go through the airport with my Gomboy. Plus I need a new one anyways.
Silky is the top brand in Japan and almost all home centers are expected to have it. Pocketboy130, Gomboy210, and 240 are the most popular ones.
Cool, thank you!
Dear mr. Wako
Where is the best most inexpensive places to buy naniwa chosera stones? It's doesn't matter if its in Japan.
Thank you,
Jacob larson
+Jacob Larson In Japan this is the most inexpensive site.
www.ippintei.com/page668.html
+virtuovice
Thank you wako!
Jacob larson
Very good ..thx
Thank you.
for all saws do you recomend med teeth for standard bushcraft tasks around camp?
Yes, I do. The large teeth are sometimes held by the wood fibers and stop moving, and the fine teeth cut very slow.
X ray???? This dude is for real.
using the pocket boy 170 for few years now, just broke the tip from the blade (not a single tooth) and cut in the finger once (this saw cuts deep and ugly!)
greets from germany
nice
Thanks doc
I bought the pocketboy 130 with the curved blade
Can you try C-Tek handle and tell us how it feels? You must be curious? You have so many knives already, what is one more? ;)
+portydert portydert Yes, I am curious about the new materials too.
Can they be sharpened?
+Emory Smith I don't think so. By the looks of the teeth it wold be very difficult to get a file in there. Also, if you've seen wranglerstar video on making a pole saw from a silky replacement saw, you would have to use something like a small diamond stone, because the tempering on the blades is a beast. Cody gave up and used the plasma torch hehe. Even if you could drill a blade with a cobalt drill bit, that's one thing and sharpening is another.
TheBarry1394 It really disappoints me that so many of these companies would rather you throw away their saws and buy a new one rather than make a product intended to last. Maybe one day this will change, but I don't think so.
How do we find his Japanese channel?
+John Klopp JPSikaHunter
Forthwith Tx Thank you!
Thanks for the informative video! I'm looking for a saw for pruning and grafting. Thus, sawing speed is good but a smooth cut and allowing me to access tight spots to cut 1-3" diameter wood is more important.... I was thinking of the ARS 130 fine tooth for this. Or do you have any other saws you can recommend? I was also looking at this one by ARS www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002EQAY0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_5&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
ps
It would be great if you could demonstrate the difference in cuts of the medium blade vs fine blade on live wood (or newly felled)!
I have the Corona saw that cost me $12 and it works well.
+Larry Duran You can get by with a Corona or a Bahco, but the Silky's definitely make the job easier.
Yes, but I think the higher end hunting saws is for people that do a lot of hunting, I only hunt a few times out of the year.
Larry Duran I see your point. The main demographic for Silky's are indeed professional pruners, so they definitely are higher end. I use mine while camping to process wood for fires and the Firebox that I do my cooking on. I get out often enough that I justify carrying premium equipment.
Thank you for another interesting and helpful review:)
BTW, are you wataken_ on Instagram?
Silky Zubat (check it out) =)
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