The most fucked up thing and very demoralizing thing I have ever head was from Tom sattlery, he's a Delta guy combat vet from Somalia ans remebers that day October 3rd 1993 clear as day. He talked about how he met one of the wives who couldny use trash bags because of the fact that the US military recevied the bodies back all cut up into pieces and Tom can't really get a good read on the bodies but he's sure that the bodies that were in those bags were Gary Gordy and Randy Shughart also a Major too in those bags. In my mind it was a what the fuck, then again where they were it made sense that these people would do something like that, fucked up yes but that's reality and how it is in those countries when govemrent has failed to run a country or can't run one. I heard this on the Tom Sattlery on the Shawn Ryan Show, another thing he remembers is that he was out of ammo and all of the rangers that were there he kept picking up "empty" mags off the ground because the rangers were dropping mags that only had three round left in the mags, Tom just kept picking them up and was saying damn you guys are doing a lot better than I am. He had a fucking crazy crazy insane experince in Somlia. His experince that he's shared and watching black hawk down, it's somewhat on par, it was intense like in the movies but a lot worse way worse in reality and in his eyes. Also in the movie black hawk down when the ranger fell out of the chopper and was deemed dead, apparently he didn't die, he survived the fall. Also the ranger that was bleeding our from the leg and rangers where helping that ranger to clamp the femoral artery, he did die. He was across the streett from where the rangers were. On the shawn ryan show with Tom, he made a clear a very clear fucking statement that it will be his last very last time talking about October 3rd 93
very true to the real events too. They also captured the ebb and flow of an urban battle very well. I didnt expect much from Michael Bay tbh but they nailed it, in my opinion that is his best movie by far.
Another reason I think the fire fights in Lone Survivor are so good is the lack of score and just the bitter, cruel sounds of rounds cracking off and the Seals communicating. Just emptiness filled with chaos that I think of captured very well especially right when the gun fight pops off
@@Gunmannn.The relevance of your comment here being what exactly? There have been discrepancies for years from Luttrel's AAR and the information they received for the operation to what he stated in his book (number of potential hostile threats). It doesn't take away the grittiness of the movie. Same as there are to this day discrepancies for the events of what support was recieved and what orders the station chief gave during 13 Hours
I’m a 30 year old girl who has never been in anything even remotely similar to war fighting, but I could barely finish lone survivor because it felt too real for me. Our military deserves so much more credit. Thank you guys ❤
So my old man fought in Korea was a POW, and the only movie that got him emotional was Saving Private Ryan. So out of his unit of 180 or so only 30 made it back. That beach scene and the scene when the medic dies made relive some bad situations. Never ever saw him teary eyed until then.
I LOVE Generation Kill. I remember seeing Ads for it on TV back in '08 and thought "This looks interesting. I'll watch it." I DVR'd each episode and probably re-watched the entire series every now and again. Two Christmases later I got the DVD set of the show, and by now I'm probably 50+ re-watches through. I quote it all the time and tell everyone that's into War movies or shows to watch it. Like you guys said, I like the day-to-day monotony and what each marine did to cope with inter-rank drama, and also giving each person their time to shine and really emphasize how different everyone is and what kind of role they played in everyone's day-to-day. The actors are top-tier, the script and the background dialogue in a lot of scenes as well as the singing while they're driving were the best parts. Just loved it.
Your comments about reacting to injuries is exactly right. When I get hurt, if I start yelling and swearing and throwing shit....its nothing. If I just grunt or am completely silent and calm...its a bad one and I know it. Another thing you said that is exactly spot on that Ive never heard put into words before is when you get injured like that, "accepting that your reality just changed a bit." Thats EXACTLY a back of the mind sensation Ive felt during some of my worse injuries.
I went through Ranger School in early 95 with a couple of guys who were young privates with 3/75 in Mogadishu. They had some terrifying stories. And I remember them taking the training very seriously, presumably because they knew the stakes.
I watched an interview with Norm "Hoot" Hootin talking about the actual interaction with Capt. Steele and what was really said. I love all of these films, thank you for giving a combat vets perspective on how realistic they were. My Dad was a Vietnam vet and was the from October 65 to October 66 and he said that "We Were Soldiers" was very realistic up until they charged up the hill, which didn't happen. My Dad was an RTO with the 1st Infantry.
I tell people that if you want to know what my first deployment to Iraq (2004) was like, watch _Generation Kill_ . I had so many similar situations, frustrations, and personalities, that it's almost like watching a show about my actual deployment, instead of 1st Recon's.
One movie I suggest watching is Come and See. It’s an 1985 Soviet film, but it isn’t for the faint of heart. The director of the film was present during the evacuation of Stalingrad and co-writer was a Soviet partisan in WWII, which is what the film is about. The movie also fought Soviet censors for over a decade because it was too realistic.
It's surprising that anyone in America watched this movie. This film tells the true stories of the pacification of over 600 villages in Belarus by German Nazis during World War II. Everything that is shown in this video is true.
That movie and akira kurasowa fight scenes are the reason I argue that stylized portrayals of combat are more realistic than attempts at straightforward realism ever are. I’d love to see if those stylized artistic efforts reacted to by combat veterans to see if they find them compelling or if they just look even dumber to people who know. Thank you for bringing this movie up.
As for interesting facts about this film, I would like to add that the basis for writing the script for "Come and See" was the massacre in Chatyń. The title of the film is a reference to the 1st verse from the 6th chapter of the Apocalypse of St. John. And the director of this film, Elema Klimov, never directed another film again, because as he said: he had already done everything he wanted to achieve in a film.
that scene where super six one is going down, watched from all perspectives, when music stops, all those faces looking black hawk going down gives me so much goosebumps and so many emotions. It's one of the best war movie scenes ever.
This channel is a great wake up call for directors or upcoming directors to take note of what needs to be included to make a great war movie if they ever were to make one
They do not care about making great movies or about maxing box office. They care that they do their part to make sure there’s a “funny fat chick” token character in every scene of every movie, no matter how bad it ruins the movie. They’re showing they are willing to sacrifice artistic integrity and financial success for their conviction that token characters will save society. We should all respect them very much.
Black Hawk Down was the inspiration for me joining the army . I was 34 went to the recruiter and he asked what I would want to do and o said the typical 18 yr old kid response I wanna blow shit up haha . Remember down in FT Benning and I’m our Barracks they had the pictures of Shugart & Gorden and I would say a little prayer
As a Vietnam combat medic ‘67-68, I always felt Platoon depicted the war well but even moreso depicted the actions, thoughts and mental status of soldiers in jungle warfare.
I was a grunt in the Marines from 2010-2015 . Jarhead is hands down the most realistic portrayal of life in the Marines. The begining of full metal jacket is good too, although I'm not so sure it would hold up in todays times.
A WW2 movie I'd love to see these guys watch/react to is "Anthropoid" (2016), based on the real-life assassination of Reinhard Heidrich by Czech partisans trained and supplied by the British SOE. One of the grimmest, yet best films I've ever seen.
As I have stated before, I have lived a long time and my entire life I have waited for someone with...."War Knowledge(?)" to analyze films for realism. Questions such as.....what do grenades really do? Is using strategy x/equipment x(Night vision?), is it really as effective as they show in the movies? Etc. The FNG Academy was the answer to my thoughts and prayers. I even went back to their earliest "Beers and Breakdowns" to see their analysis of earlier films. Top shelf. Plus.....they are funny as heck ! GL in 2024 ! (great grandmother fan).
Very accurate about Lone Survivor. We don’t go out often but my wife and I went to see Lone Survivor in the theater. I remember her asking me multiple times during that movie if I was ok. It definitely affected me.
Its really interesting hearing y’all talk about reactions to injuries as being more expressions of reality than expressions of pain, and although I have no experience with anything near as serious as war or anything, I can remember when I destroyed my knee playing college sports. My reaction had nothing to do with whatever pain that injury invoked (truthfully I don’t remember experiencing any pain until hours afterward in the hospital), my reaction all had to do with what I knew that injury meant, that I wasn’t going to be able to play for the rest of the season or maybe even for a few years. Even after that, what made me cry wasn’t the pain I was constantly in but watching my leg atrophy because I knew exactly what it meant for me and the rest of my life. I never played in the NCAA again and it’s been over 3yrs and I still haven’t gained back the muscle I lost in those months before and after surgery, I can’t imagine if I had lost my leg entirely, that realism of what injuries really mean…I think it’s still applicable even in the different situation. Continuing on regardless of how you feel or what you clearly know just happened, thats bravery (In the opinion of someone who’s never seen combat and only knows of it through media and family members stories).
Much love brothers. Be safe take care everyone. Make sure you hug and kiss your family, loved ones and pets everyday. Everyday is a blessing life is precious. God be with you all and help lift you up
When you have fairly popular stars that you forget are the stars like in BH Down, 13 Hours and Lone Survivor...those movies are just well directed and written. Great list!
Great list. I highly recommend you watch a Danish film called A War (Krigen). Highly realistic from Danish ISAF forces point of view. Was nominated for the best foreign film at the Oscars back in 2015.
@@dillioncowie5220 I agree and also a very underrated actor and he deserves credit for his roles regardless of his past anyone can bounce back and improve themselves I say always second chances in life if you admit your faults. I believe he really wanted to improve himself and be better
Black hawk down, saving private ryan, and lone survivor the big 3. They get the wars in there era down to A science. Shows? Band of brothers and seal team
But lone survivor wasn't accurate at all. According to the Marine and CIA intelligence there was only 10-15 Taliban fighters the got engaged the team. Also it didn't accurately depict the incompetence by the command and SEALs prepping for the recce (didn't bring right gear, didn't infil further out, didn't follow proper SOP)
I watched lone survivor once. And that was enough. The setting, the sounds; hell even the falling down the mountain (I took a nasty spill; not in a firefight let me be clear; down a shale mountain and thankfully didn’t get dead). It’s one of the only times I’ve ever had a true I guess you’d call flash back to the point where I broke down and my wife had to get me out of it. Incredible movie; but it’s 100% deserving. And I think anyone who spent time up on the mountains would feel the same.
Loved the breakdown! Black Hawk Down, Lone Survivor, and The Outpost are some of my favorite movies of all time (no lie, I once watched Black Hawk Down between 6 and 8 times more or less back to back over the course of two days), and hearing your reaction to it was super fun!
I loved the communication the team had in the gun fight. The clear right or clear left. I don't remember ever hearing that in other movies, I could be wrong, tho. There are so many amazing things to say about it.
Black Hawk Down a movie directed by a Brit and with a number of Brits in the cast portraying Americans. The 2 snipers showed what being the best that you can be means. I don’t normally shed tears but the sacrifice portrayed really got to me, a Brit, and reinforced my respect for our American brothers in arms. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
I was with Fox 2/8 during the Battle of Nasariah and i agree on Lone Survivor and Blackhawk Down. Absolutely great movies that displays the true realism of war and being in a fight. It was an adrenaline rush from hell and an absolutely extreme level of fear.
Generation Kill was such an awesome series, I was just telling someone about the mustache scene just the other day. Funny to see Rudy on the Special Forces show now. Doesn't matter how many times I watch 13 Hours, Bob the station chief pisses me off every time, and I get choked up everytime Tyrone dies,
Great insights guys. All favourites. I haven’t been in combat. But really struggle to rewatch lone survivor. 2 other ‘story telling’ movies I rate for entertainment. The Hurt Locker & Zero Dark Thirty. Just wondered your thoughts about them. Cheers. & thank you for your service.
Thanks for ranking Generation Kill. I stunt coordinated the show for 7 months back in 2007. One of my favourite jobs in my movie career. The GK family are my friends for life.
I never even been in the military but I remember watching Black Hawk Down and Lone Survivor for the first time and I knew holy shit this was brutal I knew this was probably the closest to being there it just didn’t feel like other movies it felt like how it would be in real life.
Damn I thought I knew you guys pretty well after watching many of your beers and breakdowns. I tried to guess at your top 3 before you said them and took a shot at , 13 hours, Mosul and Lone Survivor. I was close!! Gotta have a high mention for Mosul for anyone that hasn't seen it. It's one of the most brutal hard hitting for me as it involves Iraqis fighting in/for their own country and homes
Well done boys. Im a retired senior enlisted from a sea going service but would have loved to seen you point out the difference between the sad officer leadership in Generation Kill compared to Black Hawk Down.
Daniel rodriguez from the oupost (the real guy that was there not the actors) came back and played football for Clemson which is the closest college football team to where I live and I watched him play and met him IRL.
Not a former SF dude... but did deploy a lot during the GWOT, and 100% agree with the list. Now... Top 5 cop videos! Or, make it the top 10 to cover up to the 90s.
The first time I saw Black Hawk Down and the cinemas I loved the movie but I didn't think it was very realisic, I thought it was over the top. Then the more and more I learned about Mogadishu over the years I slowly realized it was pretty much spot on
Generation Kill I relate to the most. Only because it feels it most closely resembles my own deployment to Afghanistan in 2018-2019. You're getting ready to do shit, you've been trained to do it, you have a number of guys who've been there and done that and are going back for more. They are great team leaders. Etc. You're hyping yourself up, you're anticipating doing stuff, being put into uncomfortable situations but you're ready as you'll ever be. Then you get there. The awe and mystique of being in a foreign country half a world away from home, and potentially surrounded by people trying to kill you outside the wire. And then... Nothing. You spend 9 months performing ground hog day, little bits of enemy Indirect Fire. Then you come home. And its the biggest war cock-blocking, blue balls you ever get because you amped yourself up and emotionally prepared yourself to kill... And you don't even fire a shot in anger... Let alone even see the enemy... Then it makes you question everything, up to and including why you even joined in the first place if this is what everyone was calling "War". And then you have this whole psychological feeling of "Didn't I actually achieve anything? Did we achieve anything? What were we actually doing there? What did we realistically accomplish in that 9-12 month span of rotation in, deployment and rotation out?" And the only answer: Nothing. You did nothing. You got a ribbon on your chest, a medal in a clasp, a slap on the ass with a "Good job, soldier", and sent home as if you're a "war hero". Jaded is an understatement, when I spent much of my youth following the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan between 12 and 21 years of age, and the reality I got was just a temporary relocation of my employment position to "Out of State". Generation Kill is not liked by Civilians precisely because its void of most action and combat. There are very few instances in which the characters take contact, and when they do its so fast you can miss it going to the bathroom or grabbing a quick snack while its seemingly "slow". But it describes my deployment precisely: Boring and achieving little.
I’ve no military background but one scene that’s always stuck with me is where the kid shoots his dad when the us soldier slips leaving a building, the kid drops his gun and runs to hold his dad and the soldier walks away, his dad also has a gun on him, would you in that situation walk away and trust that the kid whose already shot at you won’t pick up the gun and shoot you in the back?
Chexk out 'Ultimate Force' .A drama series by the BBC based on the SAS and written by ex-SAS operative and BRAVO 2 Zero member Chris Ryan who wrote 'Yhe who got away... I'm enjoying the banter and reviews.
Not a movie but the TV show that feels most like the military that I was in (not realistic exactly) is Catch-22. I can't speak for the realism of the flying/bombing etc but the mentality of the army in that show feels like the army I was in. This could be because I was in the weird Signal Corps satellite control tech stuff though. Catch-22 just feels like the army to me.
I think we need a whole nother episode of overall military shows/movies. I think the unit and men of honor would definitely be top tier. As far as iraq-afghan frame, lone survivor is 1000% the standard.
Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon. Absolute legends!
I can't even think about those dudes without tearing up. There aren't words to describe the selflessness and heroism.
I love watching them doing some good work with that M-14. BHD is such an amazing movie I watch it 3-4 times a year.
The most fucked up thing and very demoralizing thing I have ever head was from Tom sattlery, he's a Delta guy combat vet from Somalia ans remebers that day October 3rd 1993 clear as day. He talked about how he met one of the wives who couldny use trash bags because of the fact that the US military recevied the bodies back all cut up into pieces and Tom can't really get a good read on the bodies but he's sure that the bodies that were in those bags were Gary Gordy and Randy Shughart also a Major too in those bags.
In my mind it was a what the fuck, then again where they were it made sense that these people would do something like that, fucked up yes but that's reality and how it is in those countries when govemrent has failed to run a country or can't run one.
I heard this on the Tom Sattlery on the Shawn Ryan Show, another thing he remembers is that he was out of ammo and all of the rangers that were there he kept picking up "empty" mags off the ground because the rangers were dropping mags that only had three round left in the mags, Tom just kept picking them up and was saying damn you guys are doing a lot better than I am. He had a fucking crazy crazy insane experince in Somlia. His experince that he's shared and watching black hawk down, it's somewhat on par, it was intense like in the movies but a lot worse way worse in reality and in his eyes.
Also in the movie black hawk down when the ranger fell out of the chopper and was deemed dead, apparently he didn't die, he survived the fall. Also the ranger that was bleeding our from the leg and rangers where helping that ranger to clamp the femoral artery, he did die. He was across the streett from where the rangers were.
On the shawn ryan show with Tom, he made a clear a very clear fucking statement that it will be his last very last time talking about October 3rd 93
Hell yeah!
@@jakester455 same.
13 Hours is tremendous, absolute nailed the casting for that one
very true to the real events too. They also captured the ebb and flow of an urban battle very well. I didnt expect much from Michael Bay tbh but they nailed it, in my opinion that is his best movie by far.
the sound design was exceptional too
Seen the meme showing that Jim and roy got sick of being office bitches and became operators instead? It indeed was great casting
Another reason I think the fire fights in Lone Survivor are so good is the lack of score and just the bitter, cruel sounds of rounds cracking off and the Seals communicating. Just emptiness filled with chaos that I think of captured very well especially right when the gun fight pops off
Do you even know the real story? Far from realistic
@@Gunmannn. nobody knows the real story except Luttrell & Taliban
@@Gunmannn.The relevance of your comment here being what exactly? There have been discrepancies for years from Luttrel's AAR and the information they received for the operation to what he stated in his book (number of potential hostile threats).
It doesn't take away the grittiness of the movie.
Same as there are to this day discrepancies for the events of what support was recieved and what orders the station chief gave during 13 Hours
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I’m a 30 year old girl who has never been in anything even remotely similar to war fighting, but I could barely finish lone survivor because it felt too real for me. Our military deserves so much more credit. Thank you guys ❤
That movie was fabricated based on true events. Read the book.
So my old man fought in Korea was a POW, and the only movie that got him emotional was Saving Private Ryan. So out of his unit of 180 or so only 30 made it back. That beach scene and the scene when the medic dies made relive some bad situations. Never ever saw him teary eyed until then.
Did he fight against the Chinese or North Koreans?
I LOVE Generation Kill. I remember seeing Ads for it on TV back in '08 and thought "This looks interesting. I'll watch it." I DVR'd each episode and probably re-watched the entire series every now and again. Two Christmases later I got the DVD set of the show, and by now I'm probably 50+ re-watches through. I quote it all the time and tell everyone that's into War movies or shows to watch it. Like you guys said, I like the day-to-day monotony and what each marine did to cope with inter-rank drama, and also giving each person their time to shine and really emphasize how different everyone is and what kind of role they played in everyone's day-to-day. The actors are top-tier, the script and the background dialogue in a lot of scenes as well as the singing while they're driving were the best parts. Just loved it.
Your comments about reacting to injuries is exactly right. When I get hurt, if I start yelling and swearing and throwing shit....its nothing. If I just grunt or am completely silent and calm...its a bad one and I know it.
Another thing you said that is exactly spot on that Ive never heard put into words before is when you get injured like that, "accepting that your reality just changed a bit." Thats EXACTLY a back of the mind sensation Ive felt during some of my worse injuries.
I went through Ranger School in early 95 with a couple of guys who were young privates with 3/75 in Mogadishu. They had some terrifying stories. And I remember them taking the training very seriously, presumably because they knew the stakes.
I watched an interview with Norm "Hoot" Hootin talking about the actual interaction with Capt. Steele and what was really said. I love all of these films, thank you for giving a combat vets perspective on how realistic they were. My Dad was a Vietnam vet and was the from October 65 to October 66 and he said that "We Were Soldiers" was very realistic up until they charged up the hill, which didn't happen. My Dad was an RTO with the 1st Infantry.
You the link of the video because I thought the hoot character was fiction...
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5. The Outpost
4. Generation Kill
3. 13 hours in Bhengazhi
2. Blackhawk down
1. Lone Survivor
PS. Jarhead is also mentioned as a great movie
I tell people that if you want to know what my first deployment to Iraq (2004) was like, watch _Generation Kill_ .
I had so many similar situations, frustrations, and personalities, that it's almost like watching a show about my actual deployment, instead of 1st Recon's.
One movie I suggest watching is Come and See. It’s an 1985 Soviet film, but it isn’t for the faint of heart. The director of the film was present during the evacuation of Stalingrad and co-writer was a Soviet partisan in WWII, which is what the film is about. The movie also fought Soviet censors for over a decade because it was too realistic.
Should be required watching for anyone interested in the eastern front of WW2. Come and See definitely sticks with you long after the credits roll.
It's surprising that anyone in America watched this movie. This film tells the true stories of the pacification of over 600 villages in Belarus by German Nazis during World War II. Everything that is shown in this video is true.
That movie and akira kurasowa fight scenes are the reason I argue that stylized portrayals of combat are more realistic than attempts at straightforward realism ever are. I’d love to see if those stylized artistic efforts reacted to by combat veterans to see if they find them compelling or if they just look even dumber to people who know. Thank you for bringing this movie up.
It's communist propaganda that never happened like that.
As for interesting facts about this film, I would like to add that the basis for writing the script for "Come and See" was the massacre in Chatyń. The title of the film is a reference to the 1st verse from the 6th chapter of the Apocalypse of St. John. And the director of this film, Elema Klimov, never directed another film again, because as he said: he had already done everything he wanted to achieve in a film.
that scene where super six one is going down, watched from all perspectives, when music stops, all those faces looking black hawk going down gives me so much goosebumps and so many emotions. It's one of the best war movie scenes ever.
Very tense and emotional scene and movie
This channel is a great wake up call for directors or upcoming directors to take note of what needs to be included to make a great war movie if they ever were to make one
They do not care about making great movies or about maxing box office. They care that they do their part to make sure there’s a “funny fat chick” token character in every scene of every movie, no matter how bad it ruins the movie. They’re showing they are willing to sacrifice artistic integrity and financial success for their conviction that token characters will save society. We should all respect them very much.
Black Hawk Down was the inspiration for me joining the army . I was 34 went to the recruiter and he asked what I would want to do and o said the typical 18 yr old kid response I wanna blow shit up haha . Remember down in FT Benning and I’m our Barracks they had the pictures of Shugart & Gorden and I would say a little prayer
As a Vietnam combat medic ‘67-68, I always felt Platoon depicted the war well but even moreso depicted the actions, thoughts and mental status of soldiers in jungle warfare.
What were your feelings on We Were Soldiers?
Fantastic list. Y'all could release a video ranking your top 5 lollipops, and I'd watch it. Superb channel and content.
I was a grunt in the Marines from 2010-2015 .
Jarhead is hands down the most realistic portrayal of life in the Marines.
The begining of full metal jacket is good too, although I'm not so sure it would hold up in todays times.
? Check out Generation Kill
I doubt some of the shit they do in FMJ is what goes on in today's military but that movie is about as raw as it gets
"high lever of confidence.............and immaturity." Sir, you have summed the situation quite well.
Paths of Glory with Kurt Douglas, and Tora, Tora, Tora with John Wayne were very solid older war movies. Especially for their time.
A WW2 movie I'd love to see these guys watch/react to is "Anthropoid" (2016), based on the real-life assassination of Reinhard Heidrich by Czech partisans trained and supplied by the British SOE. One of the grimmest, yet best films I've ever seen.
I randomly watched that movie.. it was fantastic.. it was gritty and realistic.. it showed how how everything that can go wrong.. will go wrong
You forgot Mosul in term of intensity and realism it's a must
You learn to speak by speaking, to study by studying, to run by running, to work by working; in just the same way, you learn to love by loving.
As I have stated before, I have lived a long time and my entire life I have waited for someone with...."War Knowledge(?)" to analyze films for realism. Questions such as.....what do grenades really do? Is using strategy x/equipment x(Night vision?), is it really as effective as they show in the movies? Etc. The FNG Academy was the answer to my thoughts and prayers. I even went back to their earliest "Beers and Breakdowns" to see their analysis of earlier films. Top shelf. Plus.....they are funny as heck ! GL in 2024 ! (great grandmother fan).
Very accurate about Lone Survivor. We don’t go out often but my wife and I went to see Lone Survivor in the theater. I remember her asking me multiple times during that movie if I was ok. It definitely affected me.
Sweet wife
Its really interesting hearing y’all talk about reactions to injuries as being more expressions of reality than expressions of pain, and although I have no experience with anything near as serious as war or anything, I can remember when I destroyed my knee playing college sports. My reaction had nothing to do with whatever pain that injury invoked (truthfully I don’t remember experiencing any pain until hours afterward in the hospital), my reaction all had to do with what I knew that injury meant, that I wasn’t going to be able to play for the rest of the season or maybe even for a few years. Even after that, what made me cry wasn’t the pain I was constantly in but watching my leg atrophy because I knew exactly what it meant for me and the rest of my life. I never played in the NCAA again and it’s been over 3yrs and I still haven’t gained back the muscle I lost in those months before and after surgery, I can’t imagine if I had lost my leg entirely, that realism of what injuries really mean…I think it’s still applicable even in the different situation. Continuing on regardless of how you feel or what you clearly know just happened, thats bravery (In the opinion of someone who’s never seen combat and only knows of it through media and family members stories).
Acres of almond trees lined the interstate highway which complimented the crazy driving nuts.
Hey Sean, this is not a movie at all but would love to see your reaction to the first ever recorded on the Medal of Honor, John Chappman
Much love brothers. Be safe take care everyone. Make sure you hug and kiss your family, loved ones and pets everyday. Everyday is a blessing life is precious. God be with you all and help lift you up
When you have fairly popular stars that you forget are the stars like in BH Down, 13 Hours and Lone Survivor...those movies are just well directed and written. Great list!
Even though it's out on theater only - you guys should speak on Civil War. The firefights in that movie were SO great.
Great list. I highly recommend you watch a Danish film called A War (Krigen). Highly realistic from Danish ISAF forces point of view. Was nominated for the best foreign film at the Oscars back in 2015.
Better than that WW2 movie with the bicycle troops vs the Germans?
For success, attitude is equally as important as ability.
RIP Tom Sizemore he was in Black Hawk Down and was in Saving Private Ryan he also stared in Heat he was a good actor
He's a goat that was never given credit for his roles. Played an awesome character in shooter tv series, one of the only characters I liked in it.
@@dillioncowie5220 I agree and also a very underrated actor and he deserves credit for his roles regardless of his past anyone can bounce back and improve themselves I say always second chances in life if you admit your faults. I believe he really wanted to improve himself and be better
Black hawk down, saving private ryan, and lone survivor the big 3. They get the wars in there era down to A science. Shows? Band of brothers and seal team
Did you not like Generation Kill? Thought the singing was hysterical
The pacific is amazing too. Same producers of band of Brothers
@@marklower007why does everyone forget the pacific ffs
@marklower007 band of brothers just has a all star cast so the acting a step up to me.
But lone survivor wasn't accurate at all.
According to the Marine and CIA intelligence there was only 10-15 Taliban fighters the got engaged the team.
Also it didn't accurately depict the incompetence by the command and SEALs prepping for the recce (didn't bring right gear, didn't infil further out, didn't follow proper SOP)
I actually had a flashback in the movie Sniper during a sandstorm in the movie. I could smell the sand
I watched lone survivor once. And that was enough. The setting, the sounds; hell even the falling down the mountain (I took a nasty spill; not in a firefight let me be clear; down a shale mountain and thankfully didn’t get dead). It’s one of the only times I’ve ever had a true I guess you’d call flash back to the point where I broke down and my wife had to get me out of it. Incredible movie; but it’s 100% deserving. And I think anyone who spent time up on the mountains would feel the same.
Loved the breakdown! Black Hawk Down, Lone Survivor, and The Outpost are some of my favorite movies of all time (no lie, I once watched Black Hawk Down between 6 and 8 times more or less back to back over the course of two days), and hearing your reaction to it was super fun!
I loved the communication the team had in the gun fight. The clear right or clear left. I don't remember ever hearing that in other movies, I could be wrong, tho. There are so many amazing things to say about it.
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Would love you to watch Basic. Is not realistic or accurate in any way, just pure nonsensical fun. Keep up the good work.
Guy Ritchie's The Covenant is amazing as well
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Wwwwwwwwhhhhat's up FNG Academy! Haven't watched in a few weeks, looking forward to this one!
Black Hawk Down a movie directed by a Brit and with a number of Brits in the cast portraying Americans.
The 2 snipers showed what being the best that you can be means.
I don’t normally shed tears but the sacrifice portrayed really got to me, a Brit, and reinforced my respect for our American brothers in arms.
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I was with Fox 2/8 during the Battle of Nasariah and i agree on Lone Survivor and Blackhawk Down. Absolutely great movies that displays the true realism of war and being in a fight. It was an adrenaline rush from hell and an absolutely extreme level of fear.
Can't believe you didn't include the classic line from Black Hawk Down: "A hiss means it's close, a snap means..... NOW THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US"
Hurry up and wait, was the motto when I was in from ‘80-‘82 in Wildflicken West Germany.
Generation Kill was such an awesome series, I was just telling someone about the mustache scene just the other day. Funny to see Rudy on the Special Forces show now.
Doesn't matter how many times I watch 13 Hours, Bob the station chief pisses me off every time, and I get choked up everytime Tyrone dies,
The number 1 realistic war movie is Das Boot.
I'll take no further questions at this time.
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Its also by far one of the best films ever made.
13 Hours, Seal Team, Lone Survivor, Black Hawk Down, Outpost
Lone Survivor is actually one of my very very favorite war movie but i just cant handle on watching it all the time because of how real it is.
Honorable mentions: the covenant, sand castle, American sniper and Mosul.
Great insights guys. All favourites. I haven’t been in combat. But really struggle to rewatch lone survivor.
2 other ‘story telling’ movies I rate for entertainment. The Hurt Locker & Zero Dark Thirty. Just wondered your thoughts about them. Cheers. & thank you for your service.
Love and agree with all the picks. Another one would “Tears of the Sun.” Bruce Wills and Antoine Fuqua
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Thanks for ranking Generation Kill. I stunt coordinated the show for 7 months back in 2007. One of my favourite jobs in my movie career. The GK family are my friends for life.
The interpreter with Edward G Robinson enunciation on getting shot is priceless! "Nyah...them dirty rats got me Buck, see? Nyah!" LOL!!
I never even been in the military but I remember watching Black Hawk Down and Lone Survivor for the first time and I knew holy shit this was brutal I knew this was probably the closest to being there it just didn’t feel like other movies it felt like how it would be in real life.
Damn I thought I knew you guys pretty well after watching many of your beers and breakdowns. I tried to guess at your top 3 before you said them and took a shot at , 13 hours, Mosul and Lone Survivor.
I was close!! Gotta have a high mention for Mosul for anyone that hasn't seen it. It's one of the most brutal hard hitting for me as it involves Iraqis fighting in/for their own country and homes
Also 9:24 “My Way” has some insane battle scenes. It’s a long one though
I'm really shocked buck didn't have "terminal list" at the top of the list...
That's a show. Maybe next time
@@beardeddragons2639 Generation Kill is a show. Still got in. Don't think Terminal List was considered.
Can't wait for the John Chapman Alone at Dawn movie
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Well done boys. Im a retired senior enlisted from a sea going service but would have loved to seen you point out the difference between the sad officer leadership in Generation Kill compared to Black Hawk Down.
Amazing video. BHD & Lone Survivor are too good. Generation kill and 13 hours are also really good.
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I could have guessed this list based solely on how I remember you two breaking down all 5 of these!
Cleared Hot Episode 125 (1 hr 22 min 43 sec - 1 hr 24 min 43 sec) tells you everything you need to know about Operation Red Wings.
Daniel rodriguez from the oupost (the real guy that was there not the actors) came back and played football for Clemson which is the closest college football team to where I live and I watched him play and met him IRL.
Awesome list you guys, but now you know what needs to happen next. We need the 5 least accurate movies from the same Era.
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Great idea for a video. Just sat down for food, too.
Can't wait to watch. Thanks for your work, gents. 👌
I know it isn’t a US military movie but Mozul did an excellent job at capturing realism.
Great list btw. Love all these you’ve mentioned.
17:33 that had me laughing so hard!
Not a former SF dude... but did deploy a lot during the GWOT, and 100% agree with the list.
Now...
Top 5 cop videos! Or, make it the top 10 to cover up to the 90s.
"Mosul" would have been a great option as well
Mosul is a great film. For those who haven't seen it, check it out.
100 percent agree with y’all’s ranking. The only honorable mention I have, is “SIX” from the History Channel. I really like that short series.
I kinda like tears of the sun. Not a military man but the village clearing scene looks legit to me
Still waiting for y’all to do a beers and break down of All the Devils Men
The movie Tears of the Sun with Bruce Willis has good realistic type of military action scenes
I said it before, you guys should start reacting to video games too, plenty of tactical and realistic games out there!
Or even reacting to playthroughs. There's a British marine who does some brilliant videos with Insurgency and a few others
The first time I saw Black Hawk Down and the cinemas I loved the movie but I didn't think it was very realisic, I thought it was over the top. Then the more and more I learned about Mogadishu over the years I slowly realized it was pretty much spot on
Generation Kill I relate to the most. Only because it feels it most closely resembles my own deployment to Afghanistan in 2018-2019.
You're getting ready to do shit, you've been trained to do it, you have a number of guys who've been there and done that and are going back for more. They are great team leaders. Etc.
You're hyping yourself up, you're anticipating doing stuff, being put into uncomfortable situations but you're ready as you'll ever be.
Then you get there. The awe and mystique of being in a foreign country half a world away from home, and potentially surrounded by people trying to kill you outside the wire.
And then... Nothing. You spend 9 months performing ground hog day, little bits of enemy Indirect Fire. Then you come home.
And its the biggest war cock-blocking, blue balls you ever get because you amped yourself up and emotionally prepared yourself to kill... And you don't even fire a shot in anger... Let alone even see the enemy...
Then it makes you question everything, up to and including why you even joined in the first place if this is what everyone was calling "War".
And then you have this whole psychological feeling of "Didn't I actually achieve anything? Did we achieve anything? What were we actually doing there? What did we realistically accomplish in that 9-12 month span of rotation in, deployment and rotation out?"
And the only answer: Nothing. You did nothing. You got a ribbon on your chest, a medal in a clasp, a slap on the ass with a "Good job, soldier", and sent home as if you're a "war hero".
Jaded is an understatement, when I spent much of my youth following the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan between 12 and 21 years of age, and the reality I got was just a temporary relocation of my employment position to "Out of State".
Generation Kill is not liked by Civilians precisely because its void of most action and combat. There are very few instances in which the characters take contact, and when they do its so fast you can miss it going to the bathroom or grabbing a quick snack while its seemingly "slow".
But it describes my deployment precisely: Boring and achieving little.
"6 Days" the film about the SAS Iranian Embassy Siege in London.
can you guys do a "long road home" ? to me this is the most realistic show I watched.
Buck, you’re spot on about not wanting to watch the #1 movie. I’ve been avoiding watching it again. Thanks for the work you guys are doing.
I read the book Outpost and the movie stayed pretty true to the authors story.
Time lines get a little off in the movie, but it’s a movie 🤷♂️. Keating died in 2006 and the big fight wasn’t until 2009.
I agree with the list. On point.. I was like dude if Black Hawk Down dosn't make the list I'm out.. Damn good list.
I’ve no military background but one scene that’s always stuck with me is where the kid shoots his dad when the us soldier slips leaving a building, the kid drops his gun and runs to hold his dad and the soldier walks away, his dad also has a gun on him, would you in that situation walk away and trust that the kid whose already shot at you won’t pick up the gun and shoot you in the back?
Chexk out 'Ultimate Force' .A drama series by the BBC based on the SAS and written by ex-SAS operative and BRAVO 2 Zero member Chris Ryan who wrote 'Yhe who got away... I'm enjoying the banter and reviews.
Not a movie but the TV show that feels most like the military that I was in (not realistic exactly) is Catch-22. I can't speak for the realism of the flying/bombing etc but the mentality of the army in that show feels like the army I was in. This could be because I was in the weird Signal Corps satellite control tech stuff though. Catch-22 just feels like the army to me.
Movie recommendation Danger close the Battle of Long Tan
Buck's leg position always looks like he was lifted out of a wheelchair and placed on the couch.
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Hey in 13 hours did you guys notice how badass the cook was? I'd want him watching my back any day
You guys need to do a break down of FIRST BLOOD.
You should read the the book Black Hawk down. Written by Mark Bowden
There needs to be a sound remastering of The Covenant. I think it would transform that film.
No "Seal Team"? At least an Honorable mention.
They fought in conflicts with wildly overmatched opponents. cmon yo.
I think we need a whole nother episode of overall military shows/movies. I think the unit and men of honor would definitely be top tier. As far as iraq-afghan frame, lone survivor is 1000% the standard.