The NO FOMO Crowdfunding Guide: Don't Back Anything!! JUNE 2024!
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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June 2024. As always, including as many recent crowdfunding campaigns as I can that you've had your eye/wallet on. I’m, as always, going to tell you why you potentially should avoid backing any or all of these 20ish games.
And as usual, if you disagree with any of my thoughts or criticisms, awww shucks and or geee willickers, that's fantastic too! Go and back it. But backer awareness is the most important thing to make sure you’re getting the right games FOR YOU. And NO. OTHER. REASON. No FOMO. Let’s GO.
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Time Stamp:
00:00 - DON’T DO IT!!
01:02 - Oath: New Foundations
- Played Base Game Enough?
- Not Every Games Needs Every Player Count
05:04 - Terraria
- IP Based Nostalgia?
- No Rulebook = No Free Loan?
08:09 - Rebirth
- Which Knizia Tile Layer Is For You?
10:30 - Degenesis: Clan Wars
- Why So...Low?
12:33 - Cysmic
- Go (Literal) Big Or Home
16:01 - Ironwood
- Transparent Pre-order
18:22 - Rove
- How Many Lifestyle Dungeon Crawls Can You Own?
21:49 - Regicide Legacy
- Legacy on Crowdfunding Dilemma
23:58 - Neverrift TCG
- The TCG Model Is The Issue?
25:47 - Dutch Resistance: Orange Shall Overcome
- Will This Replace Table Time Over Your Other Cooperative Games?
27:36 - Warlord Saga of the Storm TCG
- Old Becoming New Enough?
28:02 - How To Save A World
- Armageddon Worker Placement
30:35 - Vicious Gardens
- Lighter Than It Looks
32:56 - 18 Hex Games Collection - Vol. 2/Big Sur, Sand Art, Wine Cellar, Grand Central Skyport
- Never Buy More To Save More
35:00 - The Thinning Veil Cormac Mac Airt on The Other Side of Midnight
- 1-2 Player Dungeon Crawl?
36:27 - Dark Omen
- Another Dark Dungeon Crawler
38:08 - Final Thoughts 
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chris, seriously, thanks man - you've helped me figure some stuff out about the hobby - I'm realizing more and more that I just want a stable of core amazing games that I can play over and over for a long period of time instead of trying to taste each tiny new iteration on dozens and hundreds of games across half dozen or more genres - it's just not feasible or sustainable
Amen!
Happy to say that I do looooooooove Cysmic. I'm so excited for it. Been since I played it on TTS.
Ironically, How to Save a World feels like a game I should love (worker placement, turn synergies, cool theme), but I look at the board and I just feel underwhelmed and I don't know why. It's weird.
Not fomo-ing over any of these, I am Fomo-ing over some campaigns that have late pledge options still available though.
I feel that draw, too! 😬
In addition to the lack of gameplay videos and a rulebook for Terraria, there's some shady-looking stuff going on behind the scenes.
I don’t regret backing Rove one bit since it’s one of the most active and robust campaigns I’ve seen in a while. I also got to meet some of the Addax team and they seem to really know what they’re doing. I truly believe Rove is in competent hands
Ironwood preorder gives you the promo foil cards, the metal and wooden bits are in the retail version of the game. It's the exact same thing, the you get 3-3 promo cards that are the 3 promo cards that you keep in your hand each turn, it has an alternate art and foil finish, that's it. If you want to get it earlier, or care about the promos, preorder it, if not, wait for retail. I've played the game on an convention and also saw those promo cards. Look at shipping and do your math if it's worth it for you. But the metal and wooden bits are in the normal version too, there is no deluxification here, it's the same as Garphill campaigns
No mention of Mythic Battles, Chris? I take it this means we should go all-in in this. Message received!
The Rove bit got me... I look over at Sleeping Gods, Oathsworn, TMB, and knowing I have Kinfire Chronicles reprint coming next year and a lot of "Ope I got another" moments struck true!
I like the anti-fomo! It is a nice change from every kickstarter being the next best thing and they are all 4/5+. Rove is hard for me because my favorite game is the Gloomhaven series which I have played all of everything except Frosthaven which I'm 25 scenerios in.
I don’t know why I even watch these. I’ve only backed 2 games on Kickstarter over 12 years, and both were reprints. I’ve got fomo for the games I already own that don’t hit the table enough.
I enjoy being reminded to Calm.The.F.Down (at high intensity)
Hey Chris, Great video man and that's coming from a representative of Addax games with Rove. I enjoy the "don't back it" style videos a lot.
You brought up the hardest thing in creating a campaign game these days. Everyone has at least one on the shelf of shame so why should I get another one. It was a major focus for us and part of the reason we made the game easier to table. Setup and tear down in under 10 mins and game play time that is 30 mins per player. That game time on the front page assumes a 4 player group but if you are a 2 player group you can finish the game in under 30 hours. That's still a solid time commitment though. We know Rove isn't for everyone but if the main reason not to back us is "do you need another campaign" then we did pretty good in all the other areas we could have failed in.
The only issue I have around Sysmic is that the creator talks about creating "his vision" and that's what crowdfunding is about. But when did we veer towards this idea that everything has to be overproduced? Years ago making the game would be the "vision", now it's adding all these overproduced bits and then being surprised not enough people want to spend (in EU) $170 total for a core pledge for a game that nobody knows they'll like in the first place? A reprint would have been the perfect way to introduce this "overproduced" theme with deluxe expansions in my opinion.
From a gameplay standpoint, I would rank them as follows (for me):
1) Grand Central Skyport
2) Big Sur
3) Sand Art
4) Wine Cellar
However, from a thematic standpoint, here are my rankings:
1) Wine Cellar
2) Sand Art
3) The Others [Tie]: Grand Central Skyport/Big Sur
I love wine - but the gameplay looks too light (for me).
😄 Im with you- I cant decide (and suspect they all have limited replayability).
I’ve already clued into the fact that often with bigger games with high backing $$…wait a minute and you can pickup a fully backed NIS KS on the used market for a deal.
I am fairly certain that the retail version of Ironwood will include the premium components as well. The only thing you get out of pre ordering, are unique foil cards for each of the factions 3 basic cards.
this is true
They have already said the only difference will be the three foils cards.
It's a Leder games game. Insta back. Just got Arcs and the value you get from their campaigns is insane
June will be a busy month for me : Ada's Dream, Apothebakery and Hexplore It : Mountain of Godaï. After that, well still waiting what Glass Canon Unplugged will do with the Diablo IP...
Passing on Rove since I have Frosthaven and ISS Vanguard in the campaign que.
Passed on Regicide Legacy since I didn’t see the value in the campaign price. Will wait to see it at retail.
Backed Dark Omen since I think that game board was unique and it’s a small team behind it.
Likely backing Cysmic since it also looks unique and I haven’t seen anything like it before. Reminds me of a true game with that “toy factor”.
Still a lot of games coming this year that will be tough to stay away from though….
The only things I'm really waiting to back are DC United Heroes and Snowdonia Grand Tour. Everything else can wait.
5:12 The honest answer, Chris, is because it attracted all the IP's video game lovers...
I just read the rules for _Apothebakery_ & each feature was one from another game I own. Admittedly, the actual combination is different, but it tips me away from backing.
Of course, the same applies quite often.
Henson's Labyrinth revamp coming up soon? (No idea if they're sending out review copies).
I was very tempted with Oath but non-customs friendly shipping to my country killed it for me… and a distinct lack of clarity about these charges from the developer when I asked. Seemed a bit too murky for my liking
Must. Not. Back. Anything! NooooooooooooooooooooooI slipped and feel on my pledge and insert payment details buttons and confirmed a few times. It was a hell of a tumble!
Often I will see a playthrough of a game and think, wow, that looks like a lot of fun, if only it played just two players. There are couples who, for whatever reason, are not able to be part of a group so having that option is important to them.
Understandable, but quite a few competitive games just don't work 1:1 (never mind solo)
FOMHO - FEAR OF MENTAL HEALTH OBSE$$ION
Have to disagree, all games that are not family level/children games or party games should have a solo mode.
I'd like to have a solo cooperative, competitive legacy style campaign, push your luck, abstract miniature heavy, dice chucking, worker placement, trick taking strategic war game, based on true historical events set in the marvel, Disney, alien world with no luck element, playable by 0-13 players ages 3-41. Anyone has an idea?
0-player game??
How's that work??
😂 be right on that!
@@JJ_TheGreat A game that plays itself. So even when I have no time to play it, it gets tabled! Imagine how many more games I can buy, without having bad conscience for not even have opened them.
Thanks for another great video. Chris you idiot. Lol!!! I’m definitely cutting back on the crowdfunding. I’m in a middle of a massive purge. 300 games need to go. I found that after being in the hobby for 10 years most reviewers are full of crap and most games are forgettable or at least for me anyway. I’ve already sold tons and I’m feeling freer than ever.
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How are you selling? I have come to the conclusion that I have a couple hundred games that have to go also but I'm not sure what the best way to go abou tit is.
Who made you fun-police?
Tons of game experience, an advanced vocabulary and a great radio broadcaster voice!
That was easy this time ;-)
You should offer games you're purging to patreon members .
Hahaha all the best. This guy doesn't even offer a giveaway when he reached 10k... something he's been (using his words) shouting from the rooftops the past 18 months.
Hi Chris, we have sent you an e mail. Paul is hoping the two of you can talk to clear up some misunderstandings about Cormac and to get to know you. Check your e mail! Thank you!
Why not talk about Degenesis clan Wars ?
Because with < 1000 backers there is no FOMO ;)