I've mostly used a closed bridge over the 6 years I've been playing. This video has helped me to start learning the open bridge better. Thanks again for more good content.
One of the best things that happened to me as a young snooker fan, when I started playing billiards, is that I always used an open bridge. A closed bridge seems really restrictive to me. Awesome lesson at always, Dr.Dave!
i recently switched to an open bridge and although it was hard to get used to, i’m so glad i stuck with it. after watching your previous videos, watching pro players, and watching snooker, i knew i had to make the switch to elevate my game. i never knew how much a closed bridge (or in my case a weird closed/open hybrid) could mask stroke flaws. the open bridge has really pushed me to correct my stroke and i’m potting so much more consistently now. i think my biggest issue was putting accidental sidespin on the cue ball and missing shots which i thought were aimed correctly. now that i’m using the open bridge and really focusing on shooting straight, my potting has improved tremendously. thank you Dr. Dave!
@emilio - Your description of your pain point is very accurate to mine, I'm working to make the transition to open bridge now. I was playing 70% of shots with closed bridge to get precise cue ball position but I'd either miss the object ball and make the correct cue ball position or make the object ball but miss the intended position. This symptom is consistent with those shots (70% of them) with closed bridge. I make this mistake at least twice every rack, needless to say I did not grow past skill level 5 in APA for the last 3 years. Question is why would I play so much closed bridge shots? I was taught that way by an instructor for getting precise aim and cue ball position in my school's activity class. I held on to that belief and teaching for too long! Now I'm questioning it, and making the transition. Let me know if there are other insights besides correcting the bridge that worked for you. Would be happy to learn and try since we're in the same boat.
I enjoy watching your videos and have noticed my game getting better. I just love your extremely accurate "what the" reaction that I see and hear at league so often! 😂
Fast response, I love it! 😍 I'm in prep mode for the US Ams qualifier in the Poconos in a week and a half. So it's binge watching videos and serious practice time until then! I want to make it further than I did my first time shooting there last year!
@@DrDaveBilliards Figured I'd come back and give an update for anyone interested. I didn't make it very far in the tournament. I'm not a high-level player by any means (APA 5/6) but playing with and around high-level players can only make you better so I will keep at it! Format is race to 5, lag winner chooses format or break. 3 games of 8 ball, 6 games of 9 ball. We played on 7' tables at this location. Caught a bye the first round - yay! Second round, I get matched up to the lady who knocked me out of the tournament last year. I knew going into it that she was a great player and that I had my work cut out for me. I won the lag and chose 8 ball instead of taking the break. She broke and ran the first rack on me. (Lesson learned there, almost everyone picks 8 ball first anyway so from now on, always take the break!). Next rack, she made a few balls and missed. I ran down to the 8 and nicked another ball with the 8 on a long cut down table. She ran out. Third rack of 8 ball I won after a fierce safe battle. Go into 9 ball her up 2-1. All 3 racks of 9 ball that we played, she gets a lucky shot that lead her to wins. The first to get to an easy 8, 9 out. The 2nd to an easy 9 out. The last rack she knocked the 9 in early unintentionally. She felt bad about getting luck shots. I told her it's part of the game and we all get lucky sometimes. She said I took it a lot better than she would have. I stayed positive and said at least it didn't knock me out of the tournament! Third round, I catch another bye because someone didn't show up! Which is great for advancement except now I have to sit around for hours! Fourth round, I play an opponent I've never played before. They put us in a small room with no ventilation and it's hot! I'm also hopped up on caffeine because I was getting tired from sitting around all day, so I took an energy pill and drank soda to keep my energy up. (Won't do that again as it gave me the jitters - protein bars next time!) I win the first rack of 8 ball playing fairly well but slowly fall apart as my physical conditions start messing with my mental game. She goes on to win the next two games of 8 ball. So, I go into 9 ball down 2-1 again. I'm missing straight in shots, hid myself after a ball in hand shot, and just started feeling like anything that could go wrong did. I started thinking about how I tried to learn too much to close to the tournament and changed my tip just a week and a half before. I wasn't following any of my own advice before the tournament (don't make big changes right before an important event) or during the tournament (letting your mind wander instead of maintaining focus on the table). Lesson learned - stay in control of your mental game and don't mess with what's working right before a big event. I lost 5-2 with only winning one rack of 9 ball. The lady I lost to went on to the semi-finals. The lady who won to go to the US Ams next year in 2023 played very well. I actually practiced with her the first day of the tournament and knew that she was an amazing shot. She really deserved that win and I wish her well! Overall, I learned a lot of valuable lessons and it was great watching so many great shooters battle it out! I will definitely go again next year!
Great and informative video, Dr. Dave! When I started playing a lot on 7' tables, I saw many players use the closed bridge as a crutch to power the ball around on slow cloth. I remember switching to the open bridge and focusing on the purity of my stroke and was able to move the cue ball around with relative ease. I also appreciate the simpler editing style without the sound effects!
I'm not physically able to make an open bridge and I struggle making decent closed bridges due to cerebral palsy. I still love the game and appreciate your videos. Thanks!
Wonderful! This video gives my recent efforts to switch to an open bridge even more incentive. I've been getting better results with an open bridge over the closed ones I've always used, but I find that I have to consciously decide to do it on each shot or I fall back into old habits.
Great content Dr. Dave. I shoot most of my shots effectively with what I call the “devil horns” style open bridge, where my middle and ring fingers are curled in. I feel this type of open bridge provides the best stability, it works for me all the time. I do use a closed bridge when necessary for mid-range to long draw shots, but I find that for follow shots whether soft or hard an open bridge works best, as it’s easy to adjust my aim while being able to fully see the cue ball.
hi dr dave, after watching this video i decided to immediately go to my university’s student lounge to test this video on the pool table. i couldn’t believe how i never realized that i could play so much better by following this as wel as your other videos. i appreciate you a lot.
Thank you for making this video. Draw shots are one of the most inconsistent area with my game and I've been trying to incorporate the closed bridge thinking it will fix my problems. After seeing this video I think I just gotta leave that idea and just practice my power shots more. I never felt too comfortable with the closed bridge anyway even though at times it gave great results.
I'll shoot both with a open or closed bridge depending on the shot. There's shots where a open bridge is actually going to make the shoot harder and same thing goes for a closed bridge. You really need to be comfortable using both.
Thank you very much for this video sir. It has now given me a boost of confidence. Yesterday I failed to win my deciding rack because of missing an easy shot on the 8, because nerves had taken over me and I was using a closed bridge. But later on in that same match a made consecutive balls with open bridge to give myself some relax and managed to clear the rack to win the race. And now this video has given me more relax thinking that open bridge is not a bad thing after all. Thank you again for such wonderful descriptions sir.
Dr, Dave, this has been a long time coming. When I was just learning I tried the closed and open bridge. The closed bridge was never comfortable, just stylist. I found the open bridge did not have to have pressure applied like the closed bridge when applying full speed. The fingers broke up my line of sight and sometimes hindered my cue stroking. I thought silently to myself: what a crock of shit! I even break 8Ball with an open bridge. The cue sometimes jumps about. But who doesn't on some strenuously executed short. Sometimes some fundamentals run amiss. Then again, why care if I have already completed my stoke. Thanks Dave.
Always awesome stuff, doc. I’ve found I have better feel and speed control on power shots, since you convinced me to go open bridge on them awhile back.
Amazing, thank you sir very much for this infromative video. I think because of this video my game has transformed to next level. Simply fixing the open bridge thanks to you and this video.
Good to know. No one even taught me how to hold a cue stick I just naturally used an open bridge from the very beginning, then decades later when someone suggested I try a closed bridge it just felt awkward so I've stuck with it, but always thought it might be a deficit glad to hear it's an advantage.
I used to believe that you could get more power using a closed bridge until I started watching snooker. The cue power they generate with an open bridge is just incredible.
I just got back into pool and everyone in my pool hall was using an open bridge hand so when I was shooting I would do that, I found that I have an issue with keeping it flat, as I like to pull the entire cue up with my back wrist, switching to the closed bridge has actually helped me get more consistent shots and having a glove helps which I was wearing before as well to get rid of friction, I personally like to shoot the closed bridge more but wanted to see what others thought
@@bruce4139 FYI, all the reasons I prefer an open bridge are summarized here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/open/ One thing that really convinced me many years ago is all snooker players (the most accurate cueists) use an open bridge.
@@josephnewcomb5670 I agree. Seems these kinds of videos are more 3-5 APA rank players. I go off of feel. Close and open bridge has gotten me dollars. My longer shots are closed bridge. That’s my comfort.
I've always used an open bridge basically for just about every shot because i was just more comfortable with it. But I will *NEVER, ever, ever, ever* use an open bridge again for breaking. Sometimes when i do it, i scratch and it's quite embarrassing when either in front of a crowd or just playing against an opponent. I will be using the closed bridge specifically for that. I learned that it gives less possibility to scratch. I am currently trying to get used to various bridge stances. Thx for the vid!
Finally someone from a pool world said this.... i am watching a lot of snooker an for me open bridge came naturally and i am using it when playing pool, but many people from pool world are saying that open bridge is bad....closed brdge has more benefits etc... i tried closed bridge few times... and for me there isn't any benefits for power, accuracy, anything.. it feels uncomfortable, too much friction .......and the biggest myth is the draw shot.... when you think about and see snooker players drawing smaller cueball much longer and with far greater accuracy then pool players you realise that is just a myth.....and one more thing amazes me....almost every snooker player is so low that the cue is rubbing against their chin.... this is very rare in pool.... Great video as always Thanks coach
I've gotten way better watching your videos! I improved my bridge, stance, sighting, and am now able to consistently draw, stop shot, roll the ball and so on. I'm also aware of how top/bottom spin shifts the ball up or down from the tangent line of the shot, and my cue ball control has gotten decent. I wanna keep improving but it feels like I hit a plateau. Even with my knowledge the cue ball sometimes feels to unpredictable. I'm still not sure which side spin to add, let alone combinations of top/bottom spin and side spin. When pocketing from left to right I generally add left spin, and vice versa, but thats about it. Any suggestions/videos I should watch?
I'm glad to hear my stuff has helped. For help with sidespin, start by checking out all the info and videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/ And when you want more, explore the sub topics of interest here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/ Enjoy, and continued good luck with your game!
There are a few snooker players that use the loop hole bridge, mostly from the Canadian invasion era with cliff thorburn, Kirk Stevens, bill werbeniuk, and Jim wych. I always assumed that was from the influence of pool in Canada but there are a few ray reardon shots where he used the loop hole bridge. As a snooker player myself I tend to use the loop hole bridge in problem areas like over reaching, or anywhere where the cushion or position of the balls messes the area up of where you can put your wrist or hand down.
Nice video. You should make another video about when to use closed bridges, like when you are using so much side spin that the open bridge can't keep the cue stick under control.
Hi, my thumb lost its nerve endings and cant be positioned comfortably for an open bridge. I generally always play with a closed bridge but i have issues when it comes to bridge height. What do I do in this case? How can i elevate my bridge height using a closed bridge or alternative techniques?
I use an open bridge but with my ring finger bent backwards. Like a tripod. To me it feels more stable this way. Also, I use a closed bridge on the break for added control. I will try rotating my bridge hand next time I shoot to get a better V shape. That might be one of my fundamental issues. Thanks for the video Dave!
The back fingers close some during the stroke, but the grip should not "tighten." See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/grip/technique/
I love your videos Dave! I think it's very important to have both bridges in your "bag". Sometimes what one is comfortable for that shot is just different
Agreed. One most be comfortable with a wide range of bridges for different situations, but it helpful for your main bridge (used for most shots) is good.
Great video - what about using an open bridge when breaking from the table surface? When breaking hard, I get more power with less effort doing this, but I haven't noticed many pros doing it.
The only ones I have tried are the Predator Revo and the Cuetec. I like the Revo. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/carbon/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/selecting/ Enjoy!
Over in the UK most pool players including American pool players will play with an open bridge.. Very rarely do you see the closed loop. My theory is that snooker is more widely played than in the states so most pick this up from a very early age. Saying that I do think a closed bridge offers some advantages like you state in certain situation. Thanks for the great videos dave. Greatly appreciated
One advantage of an open bridge is the shaft diameter and taper make no difference. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/open/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/size-and-shape/ Enjoy!
People also make a big deal about the "hit," "feel," "feedback," or "playability" of cues, but this stuff is also unimportant to me per the info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/feel/
Question: lets say you make a ball on opening break, this means the table is still open, does this mean u can still make a combo of stripe to solid to make the solid in?
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you! I have made so much progress since watching your vids! thanks again for answering my random questions, I really appreciate it!
hey dr dave! awesome video man! if you do usually respond, what is the cue stick that you use? like which company/brand made it and whats it made of, it looks clean as hell!
Great video. I think the closed bridge is popular in 3 cushion billards but I'm not sure it's because of heavier balls? I always use the open bridge for pool, but one bad habit I see with open brigde is to raise the back of the hand making an unstable bridge.
The cue would tend to leave an open bridge more with the heavier ball and he wide range of spin shots they use, especially with any power. This doesn't affect the shot, it can be annoying, and it can cause you to foul on a nearby ball.
That's a good suggestion. I'll add it to my list; although, my "list" is quite long. BTW, the Wikipedia "Cue Sports" page does a fairly good job of this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sports
I, too, believe that both open and closed bridges have their use. Depends on the shot. I like to use a closed bridge for all my draw shots. It provides the best security for me. I use the close bridge on a lot of center ball and follow shots. It all boils down to what works best for you as an individual.
What about in regards to the break? I hardly ever see anyone use an open bridge for the break, maybe have seen Johnny Archer do that a few times. But every real good breaker typically breaks with a closed bridge, do you think there is any merit in using the closed bridge for breaking purposes, does it have strong advantages here? This could be due to underlying technique issues, but i find with the closed bridge, it is much easier to deliver maximum power controllably, where I'm pretty much lunging at the shot.
As per JJ (Jeremy Jones) mosconi cup captain.. "The closed bridge promotes a better swing and promotes trust, that you don't need to aim too much like you would with an open bridge.. That the aiming should have been long gone before the last few practice strokes" (I'm Paraphrasing) Your thoughts dr. Dave?? I heard him say this during the ko pin chung Josh filler match 10ball final. where Josh changed from an open to a closed bridge..
That he has never adviced a player to use the open bridge for a certain shot when they are using a closed bridge but has said it many times the other way around...
If somebody feels more secure or confident with a closed bridge, then it is the right choice for them. However, the advantages of an open bridge are compelling, especially when you see the effectiveness of snooker players.
I don't know what he means with aiming "too much". The aiming part happens before you go into the shot anyways, when you're down in the shot, you should never aim the shot once you're already down, unless maybe you're using a lot of side and compensate for deflection. But even that can be done when you look at the shot and how you want to play it
@@Ironsvillage I thi k that's what he means.. That with the closed bridge, you have to aim before going down on the shot.. And that you have to TRUST that aiming and not re-aim while your down on your shot.. I think that's what he meant..
I do a decent amount of small pump strokes prior to hitting the ball and the obstructed view with a closed bridge always drives me crazy. I can't visualize where I am aiming on the cue ball. I generally only use closed on the break and rail side draws/stops.
i always used open bridge when i used to play simply cuz it felt more comfortable. the cue always felt like it would stick against my index finger. i was taught to play with a closed bridge, and originally only saw people use the open when shooting up against the cushion. eventually i just switched to using the open when i realized it simply felt more natural 🤷♂️
In my opinion, the real issue with a shot like 8:07 is that you're increasing your cue elevation angle unnecessarily, which compounds effects of inadvertent swerve. Ideally, you would place the cue directly on the rail, and wrap your index finger over it in a sort of "closed" bridge. This gets your hand out from underneath the cue, allowing you to lower your elevation angle, increasing your accuracy.
Agreed. I was adding cue elevation on that shot on purpose to exaggerate the cue-lifting-off-the-bridge effect. I wouldn't normally shoot the shot like that unless the CB were closer to the rail or if I were bridging over an obstacle ball.
@@DrDaveBilliards Yep, totally agree. This situation is one of a few where the rail forces me to a closed bridge. One thing your video made me think about is table size. Someone like you or me, who shares this open-when-possible philosophy, is going to be using a closed bridge a lot more often on a 7 foot table than a 12 foot. I wonder if this could partially explain the trends we see in open and closed bridges between the two cue sports.
i use the open bridge. My friend uses a weird way of setting the cue between the knuckles of the index and middle finger. I tried it and its actually pretty comfy.
By all means, if you have not tried an open bridge you should give it a shot. But it is not the panacea many believe it is. I use an open bridge for many shots, but there are still many times that I go to a closed bridge because it just feels better to me and gives me more confidence. And when I seem to be struggling, I go back to a closed bridge and it seems to bring me out of my funk. I am here in the Philippines and I see both closed bridge and open bridge and there doesn't seem to be much difference in talent one way or another - and there is a LOT of talent here. I also think that if someone is just starting out that an open bridge is probably the best way to go for them as it just becomes totally natural. I just really feel more comfortable with the "snugness" of the closed bridge, but I am trying to go more and more to the open bridge. I wish I had started with the open bridge many years ago.
I haven't watched a lot of pool but I've also noticed the trend of using the open bridge a lot more than when I first got interestes in cue sports. Back then I was already wondering why pool players tend to use the closed bridge whereas snooker players always use the open bridge. Now it seems that the vast majority of the young pool players are using the open bridge.
An advantage of not switching back and forth between open and closed bridges is consistency. Since you're only using one bridge, it's one less variable to control for.
You mean, all those years I spent learning to shoot comfortably with a closed bridge could have been better utilized? 🤔 Informative video, as always, Dr. Dave.
Yep. I'm glad you liked it. I have a few pool friends and students I've tried to convince over the years. Maybe this will help push them over the edge.
Im definitely still a beginner but i like to use both techniques when needed. I love the accuracy of snooker players so ive been trying to take little tidbits of how they shoot to my pool game. Including that chin technique. Im sure people like ronnie o' sullivan have a callus on their chin from how hard they press the cue into it lol.
So a closed bridge might "help" a player with bad fundamentals. An open bridge will punish bad fundamentals quicker. That helps with identifying a problem and therefore helps with improving. Would you say it's the same with a dime vs a nickel shaped tip? I'm a beginner with a nickel shaped tip and I'm thinking about switching to a dime shape. I probably will play worse at first but I'll get a better feedback whether my cueing was accurate or not. Am I correct?
The difference between nickel and dime tip shape is not as big as some people might think. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/size-and-shape/
Efren Reyes and Django Bustamante have the best bridge.specifically Django.you can see how he has much control of his cueing.with a firm closed bridge and a very loose grip in the other hand.very sophisticated to look but so effective.he has even more power when drawing the cue ball.
It just depends on what is comfortable. I was in a pool hall with Bustamante about a year ago. I saw the guy make power shots with a closed grip that was damn near frightening.
I use a closed bridge and it allows me to make excellent shots with a lot of power, accuracy, and stability. I do have really long fingers, so that could just be it!
I actually do prefer a closed bridge but I switch between closed and open bridge. closed bridge for shots that I need more comfort with because I am more comfortable with it. but for shots that are harder, I use an open bridge to see better. That's just me
It comes from the tire industry, for one. And I guess paleontologists. :-) Then the power folks started using the term to describe consumption rates. So riding a bicycle for 30 years means that I have had a very small "carbon footprint" on the grand scale of things. But any device or structure meant to hold something above it stationary is typically referred to in mechanical engineering as a foot. I like "equivalent" and "equivocal". NOT similar in meaning. Surprise!
Hello Dr. Dave. I am a very occasional and, thus, not particularly effective player, but I enjoy the game nonetheless. I have also developped quite a fondness, over recent years, for the game of snooker, which I have never played (snooker tables are almost as rare as dodo sightings in my neck of the woods, i.e. not in the U.K.), but for which I am an avid viewer. Not intending any disrespect to anyone, I have always believed snooker is to pool as chess is to checkers, in terms of strategy, but mostly in terms of pure queuing skills. In that spirit, I would love to see you tackle some snooker-related topics, from the basics to the more technical aspects, or side-by-side comparisons between pool and snooker, whether regarding history, equipment, or when players occasionally crossover from one discipline to the other. I am aware that you might be limited by the fact that you are in the same geographical disadvantage that I find myself in, Colorado being especially not in the U.K., but if you could find a way, I would watch those lessons with great interest, along with many other fans I am sure. Thank you for all your work and please keep on with the teaching.
i regret not using a closed bridge for the 10 ball and 9 ball breaks, and also for long distance screw shots, however i feel a lot more comfortable with an open bridge in general.
I think it depends on a persons individual comfort with either or... I've been playing pool and 3 cushion billiards for over 40 years with a closed bridge and wouldn't switch to an open bridge for anything. It's a personal preference thing. There is no "better way" IMHO.
Sorry I've been away for a while. I had an extremely busy last month. Hopefully, I'll be able to post more frequently going forward (except when Thanksgiving and Christmas come along).
Another place where a closed bridge seems to be useful is with more extensive topping shots. At least that has been my experience. You can force a bit more cue action without as much likelihood for a miscue. Watching this I probably use it far too much though, and will look at limiting that and working the rest of the stroke mechanics for some ultimate advantage. Interesting topic. I always figured one of the main reasons you don't see snooker players using open bridges is that their strokes don't appear to be as highly powered up as often as seems to be required in some types of pool shots, the most obvious being breaking. The main point I would make is that IIRC you almost never see a pro breaking open bridge. I will watch more intently to verify if that is true. I suspect the closed bridge is almost a requirement there, for best results. One very serious clue is that if pros aren't doing it, you probably don't want to be either. Just sayin'.
I know it is counterintuitive, but the bridge has no effect on the shot at impact because the CB is gone before the bridge "feels" anything. For more info, see the video and explanation here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/squirt/bridge-length/ Snooker definitely involves power shots on occasion, especially power draw (skrew back) shots. They use an open bridge for power shots also, and they are often impressively accurate even with the power.
Thanks for this. I have radial nerve damage from a dog bite in my left (bridge) hand so cannot do a good closed bridge. I also have arthritis in both hands and wrists so my bridge isn't the best, but i can still play.. Wrote that half way through, if i have a difficult shot I play left handed and people hate that I can. I have never used a closed bridge and only found out about it watching yt videos. i don't really watch my opponents hand when I play them, I watch the balls
I can't do an open bridge everyone says it's easy but my que just flies off my thumb genuinely don't understand the open bridge I started with closed and people keep telling me to switch and I just can't
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*Contents:*
0:00 - Intro
1:00 - 1: Easy to Learn
1:50 - 2: Stable
2:24 - 3: Unobscured View
3:02 - 4: Accurate “V” Guide
3:29 - 5: Centered
4:17 - 6: Low Resistance
4:57 - 7: Versatile
5:37 - 8: More Reach
5:49 - 9: Accurate Pivots
6:31 - 10: Reveals Stroke Flaws
7:47 - Minor Disadvantages
8:33 - Wrap Up
*Supporting Resources:*
- open bridge resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/open/
- “Pool and billiards grip and bridge technique and advice” video:
- part 1: ruclips.net/video/PevddF2gRh4/видео.html
- part 2: ruclips.net/video/7XXFF6Q1Wns/видео.html
- closed bridge variations: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/closed/
- advantages of a low stance: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/low/
- stance advice: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/advice/
- pool myth-buster video: ruclips.net/video/cdlQuEQcpRs/видео.html
- CTE aiming systems: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/CTE/
- back-hand english (BHE): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/bhe-fhe/
- System for Aiming With Sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
- aim compensation when using sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
- draw shot technique advice: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/
- stroke “best practices” advice: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/technique/
I've mostly used a closed bridge over the 6 years I've been playing. This video has helped me to start learning the open bridge better. Thanks again for more good content.
You're welcome. I hope it helps.
One of the best things that happened to me as a young snooker fan, when I started playing billiards, is that I always used an open bridge. A closed bridge seems really restrictive to me. Awesome lesson at always, Dr.Dave!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
You suggested this in a lesson, I tried it and never looked back..........it has worked for me. Thanks!
I’m glad to hear it Bill. Best regards!
i recently switched to an open bridge and although it was hard to get used to, i’m so glad i stuck with it. after watching your previous videos, watching pro players, and watching snooker, i knew i had to make the switch to elevate my game. i never knew how much a closed bridge (or in my case a weird closed/open hybrid) could mask stroke flaws. the open bridge has really pushed me to correct my stroke and i’m potting so much more consistently now. i think my biggest issue was putting accidental sidespin on the cue ball and missing shots which i thought were aimed correctly. now that i’m using the open bridge and really focusing on shooting straight, my potting has improved tremendously. thank you Dr. Dave!
Good job making the change. I'm glad you liked the video. You're welcome.
@emilio - Your description of your pain point is very accurate to mine, I'm working to make the transition to open bridge now. I was playing 70% of shots with closed bridge to get precise cue ball position but I'd either miss the object ball and make the correct cue ball position or make the object ball but miss the intended position. This symptom is consistent with those shots (70% of them) with closed bridge. I make this mistake at least twice every rack, needless to say I did not grow past skill level 5 in APA for the last 3 years.
Question is why would I play so much closed bridge shots? I was taught that way by an instructor for getting precise aim and cue ball position in my school's activity class. I held on to that belief and teaching for too long! Now I'm questioning it, and making the transition.
Let me know if there are other insights besides correcting the bridge that worked for you. Would be happy to learn and try since we're in the same boat.
I enjoy watching your videos and have noticed my game getting better. I just love your extremely accurate "what the" reaction that I see and hear at league so often! 😂
I'm glad to hear it, and I'm glad you like my: "What the???" :)
Fast response, I love it! 😍 I'm in prep mode for the US Ams qualifier in the Poconos in a week and a half. So it's binge watching videos and serious practice time until then! I want to make it further than I did my first time shooting there last year!
@@SarahsJewelryStudio Play well, and good luck!!!
Thank you, much appreciated!
@@DrDaveBilliards Figured I'd come back and give an update for anyone interested. I didn't make it very far in the tournament. I'm not a high-level player by any means (APA 5/6) but playing with and around high-level players can only make you better so I will keep at it!
Format is race to 5, lag winner chooses format or break. 3 games of 8 ball, 6 games of 9 ball. We played on 7' tables at this location.
Caught a bye the first round - yay!
Second round, I get matched up to the lady who knocked me out of the tournament last year. I knew going into it that she was a great player and that I had my work cut out for me. I won the lag and chose 8 ball instead of taking the break. She broke and ran the first rack on me. (Lesson learned there, almost everyone picks 8 ball first anyway so from now on, always take the break!). Next rack, she made a few balls and missed. I ran down to the 8 and nicked another ball with the 8 on a long cut down table. She ran out. Third rack of 8 ball I won after a fierce safe battle. Go into 9 ball her up 2-1. All 3 racks of 9 ball that we played, she gets a lucky shot that lead her to wins. The first to get to an easy 8, 9 out. The 2nd to an easy 9 out. The last rack she knocked the 9 in early unintentionally. She felt bad about getting luck shots. I told her it's part of the game and we all get lucky sometimes. She said I took it a lot better than she would have. I stayed positive and said at least it didn't knock me out of the tournament!
Third round, I catch another bye because someone didn't show up! Which is great for advancement except now I have to sit around for hours!
Fourth round, I play an opponent I've never played before. They put us in a small room with no ventilation and it's hot! I'm also hopped up on caffeine because I was getting tired from sitting around all day, so I took an energy pill and drank soda to keep my energy up. (Won't do that again as it gave me the jitters - protein bars next time!) I win the first rack of 8 ball playing fairly well but slowly fall apart as my physical conditions start messing with my mental game. She goes on to win the next two games of 8 ball. So, I go into 9 ball down 2-1 again. I'm missing straight in shots, hid myself after a ball in hand shot, and just started feeling like anything that could go wrong did. I started thinking about how I tried to learn too much to close to the tournament and changed my tip just a week and a half before. I wasn't following any of my own advice before the tournament (don't make big changes right before an important event) or during the tournament (letting your mind wander instead of maintaining focus on the table). Lesson learned - stay in control of your mental game and don't mess with what's working right before a big event. I lost 5-2 with only winning one rack of 9 ball.
The lady I lost to went on to the semi-finals. The lady who won to go to the US Ams next year in 2023 played very well. I actually practiced with her the first day of the tournament and knew that she was an amazing shot. She really deserved that win and I wish her well!
Overall, I learned a lot of valuable lessons and it was great watching so many great shooters battle it out! I will definitely go again next year!
Great and informative video, Dr. Dave! When I started playing a lot on 7' tables, I saw many players use the closed bridge as a crutch to power the ball around on slow cloth. I remember switching to the open bridge and focusing on the purity of my stroke and was able to move the cue ball around with relative ease. I also appreciate the simpler editing style without the sound effects!
I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for the feedback and comments.
I'm not physically able to make an open bridge and I struggle making decent closed bridges due to cerebral palsy. I still love the game and appreciate your videos. Thanks!
What type of bridge do you use?
Wonderful! This video gives my recent efforts to switch to an open bridge even more incentive. I've been getting better results with an open bridge over the closed ones I've always used, but I find that I have to consciously decide to do it on each shot or I fall back into old habits.
I switched to open bridge early on and it’s so much better
Great content Dr. Dave. I shoot most of my shots effectively with what I call the “devil horns” style open bridge, where my middle and ring fingers are curled in. I feel this type of open bridge provides the best stability, it works for me all the time. I do use a closed bridge when necessary for mid-range to long draw shots, but I find that for follow shots whether soft or hard an open bridge works best, as it’s easy to adjust my aim while being able to fully see the cue ball.
hi dr dave, after watching this video i decided to immediately go to my university’s student lounge to test this video on the pool table. i couldn’t believe how i never realized that i could play so much better by following this as wel as your other videos. i appreciate you a lot.
I'm glad to hear it. Now get back to studying for your classes. :)
Thank you for making this video. Draw shots are one of the most inconsistent area with my game and I've been trying to incorporate the closed bridge thinking it will fix my problems. After seeing this video I think I just gotta leave that idea and just practice my power shots more. I never felt too comfortable with the closed bridge anyway even though at times it gave great results.
If you want more draw shot technique advice, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/
Enjoy!
Good thing I chose to play with an open bridge from the beginning. Thank you for the Info Dr.Dave. Awesome video as always 🔥
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the feedback.
I'll shoot both with a open or closed bridge depending on the shot. There's shots where a open bridge is actually going to make the shoot harder and same thing goes for a closed bridge. You really need to be comfortable using both.
Agree 100%
Definitely
6:50 I think I have been making this mistake! Thanks for making it so obvious, Dr Dave. I will have to look into this more.
I hope it helps.
Thank you very much for this video sir. It has now given me a boost of confidence. Yesterday I failed to win my deciding rack because of missing an easy shot on the 8, because nerves had taken over me and I was using a closed bridge. But later on in that same match a made consecutive balls with open bridge to give myself some relax and managed to clear the rack to win the race. And now this video has given me more relax thinking that open bridge is not a bad thing after all.
Thank you again for such wonderful descriptions sir.
I'm glad the video is helping with your choices.
@@DrDaveBilliards oh my God, I'm so lucky to have been replied by you ❤
@@thebreak4081 I aim to swerve. :)
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you again sir, waiting for your next video
@@thebreak4081 I you don't want to wait, I already have 450+ videos on my channel for you to explore:
ruclips.net/user/DrDaveBilliardsvideos
Enjoy!
Dr, Dave, this has been a long time coming. When I was just learning I tried the closed and open bridge. The closed bridge was never comfortable, just stylist. I found the open bridge did not have to have pressure applied like the closed bridge when applying full speed. The fingers broke up my line of sight and sometimes hindered my cue stroking. I thought silently to myself: what a crock of shit! I even break 8Ball with an open bridge. The cue sometimes jumps about. But who doesn't on some strenuously executed short. Sometimes some fundamentals run amiss. Then again, why care if I have already completed my stoke. Thanks Dave.
I’m glad you liked it. You’re welcome.
Always awesome stuff, doc. I’ve found I have better feel and speed control on power shots, since you convinced me to go open bridge on them awhile back.
I'm glad to hear it. Thanks for the comment.
Amazing, thank you sir very much for this infromative video. I think because of this video my game has transformed to next level. Simply fixing the open bridge thanks to you and this video.
Thank you, and you’re welcome. I’m glad to hear it.
Good to know. No one even taught me how to hold a cue stick I just naturally used an open bridge from the very beginning, then decades later when someone suggested I try a closed bridge it just felt awkward so I've stuck with it, but always thought it might be a deficit glad to hear it's an advantage.
A closed bridge definitely looks "fancier" and takes longer to master, but it offers no real advantage in general.
I used to believe that you could get more power using a closed bridge until I started watching snooker. The cue power they generate with an open bridge is just incredible.
Agreed. Watching snooker also helped me change my thinking on the open bridge many years ago.
@@DrDaveBilliards It might be too much to ask but I would love to see some videos covering Snooker or English pool if possible.
@@Ambo100 If I had convenient access to snooker and English pool, I would consider it, but I don't. Sorry.
Also, the list of pool topics I still want to cover in future videos is ridiculously long.
@@DrDaveBilliards If ever you are in England I'm sure we'd be able to accommodate you :)
"tightening up during a stroke" yeah that happened to my grandfather
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Dr Dave Thank You I Totally agree with you open bridge
Way to Go
i admire your effort man, keep it up 👑
Thanks. I aim to swerve. :)
I just got back into pool and everyone in my pool hall was using an open bridge hand so when I was shooting I would do that, I found that I have an issue with keeping it flat, as I like to pull the entire cue up with my back wrist, switching to the closed bridge has actually helped me get more consistent shots and having a glove helps which I was wearing before as well to get rid of friction, I personally like to shoot the closed bridge more but wanted to see what others thought
@@bruce4139 FYI, all the reasons I prefer an open bridge are summarized here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/open/
One thing that really convinced me many years ago is all snooker players (the most accurate cueists) use an open bridge.
I instinctively switch between an open and closed bridge without much thought. Whatever feels right for any given shot. Both work just fine.
Same here just depends on the shot
for some reason my left handed break is about the only time I use a closed bridge
@@josephnewcomb5670 I agree. Seems these kinds of videos are more 3-5 APA rank players. I go off of feel. Close and open bridge has gotten me dollars. My longer shots are closed bridge. That’s my comfort.
Love the "What the..!?" humor part. 😂🤣
That's exactly my reaction whenever I have bad strokes on crucial deep screw and top spin shots.
For me... I agree. I miss more shots with a closed bridge. Also noticed that with the open... My cue is stationed, resting on the V.
I've always used an open bridge basically for just about every shot because i was just more comfortable with it. But I will *NEVER, ever, ever, ever* use an open bridge again for breaking. Sometimes when i do it, i scratch and it's quite embarrassing when either in front of a crowd or just playing against an opponent. I will be using the closed bridge specifically for that. I learned that it gives less possibility to scratch. I am currently trying to get used to various bridge stances. Thx for the vid!
You're welcome. Most people do you a closed bridge or a rail bridge for a power break.
Finally someone from a pool world said this.... i am watching a lot of snooker an for me open bridge came naturally and i am using it when playing pool, but many people from pool world are saying that open bridge is bad....closed brdge has more benefits etc... i tried closed bridge few times... and for me there isn't any benefits for power, accuracy, anything.. it feels uncomfortable, too much friction .......and the biggest myth is the draw shot.... when you think about and see snooker players drawing smaller cueball much longer and with far greater accuracy then pool players you realise that is just a myth.....and one more thing amazes me....almost every snooker player is so low that the cue is rubbing against their chin.... this is very rare in pool....
Great video as always
Thanks coach
Thank you, and you’re welcome. I’m glad you liked it.
I've gotten way better watching your videos! I improved my bridge, stance, sighting, and am now able to consistently draw, stop shot, roll the ball and so on.
I'm also aware of how top/bottom spin shifts the ball up or down from the tangent line of the shot, and my cue ball control has gotten decent.
I wanna keep improving but it feels like I hit a plateau. Even with my knowledge the cue ball sometimes feels to unpredictable.
I'm still not sure which side spin to add, let alone combinations of top/bottom spin and side spin. When pocketing from left to right I generally add left spin, and vice versa, but thats about it.
Any suggestions/videos I should watch?
I'm glad to hear my stuff has helped.
For help with sidespin, start by checking out all the info and videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/
And when you want more, explore the sub topics of interest here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/
Enjoy, and continued good luck with your game!
Thanks!
What about on the break shot?
Most people prefer a closed bridge on the break shot, but an open bridge can also be effective with proper technique.
There are a few snooker players that use the loop hole bridge, mostly from the Canadian invasion era with cliff thorburn, Kirk Stevens, bill werbeniuk, and Jim wych. I always assumed that was from the influence of pool in Canada but there are a few ray reardon shots where he used the loop hole bridge. As a snooker player myself I tend to use the loop hole bridge in problem areas like over reaching, or anywhere where the cushion or position of the balls messes the area up of where you can put your wrist or hand down.
Thanks for the info. I guess I should be a little careful using all-encompassing terms like "exclusively."
Stephen Maguire uses the closed bridge when cueing over the rail.
@@KingStibroz As does John Higgins
I think it's fair to say 99.9%+ of snooker shots not involving a rest are played with an open bridge.
Nice video. You should make another video about when to use closed bridges, like when you are using so much side spin that the open bridge can't keep the cue stick under control.
Thanks. Good idea. I do cover this some in my other two-part videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/technique/
Hi, my thumb lost its nerve endings and cant be positioned comfortably for an open bridge. I generally always play with a closed bridge but i have issues when it comes to bridge height. What do I do in this case? How can i elevate my bridge height using a closed bridge or alternative techniques?
@@NotoriousMSJ Lots of bridge advice (for all types) can be found in the videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/technique/
I use an open bridge but with my ring finger bent backwards. Like a tripod. To me it feels more stable this way. Also, I use a closed bridge on the break for added control.
I will try rotating my bridge hand next time I shoot to get a better V shape. That might be one of my fundamental issues.
Thanks for the video Dave!
You’re welcome. I hope the hand turn helps.
I like the thumb up for control.
Thanks again Dr. Dave
You’re welcome.
So in general, after the shot and follow through that’s when you should tighten the hand (essentially to catch the stick from leaving ur hand)??
The back fingers close some during the stroke, but the grip should not "tighten." See the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/grip/technique/
Another great video Gordon UK
Thanks. Dr Dave USA
do u turn your hand clockwise when you set up an open bridge as well? and do u start with a flat hand or form the fist method to set your bridge?
Check the other videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/
It is better to start with a flat hand and turn CW enough to get the “V” facing you.
I love your videos Dave! I think it's very important to have both bridges in your "bag". Sometimes what one is comfortable for that shot is just different
Agreed. One most be comfortable with a wide range of bridges for different situations, but it helpful for your main bridge (used for most shots) is good.
Cool video
Thanks for sharing
Thank you, and you're welcome.
Great video - what about using an open bridge when breaking from the table surface? When breaking hard, I get more power with less effort doing this, but I haven't noticed many pros doing it.
Most people prefer the "security" of the closed bridge on the break, but an open bridge is fine with good technique.
Hello dr dave.
I’m thinking of buying a new carbon fiber cue shaft. What brand do you play with and what would you recommend for me?
The only ones I have tried are the Predator Revo and the Cuetec. I like the Revo. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/carbon/
and:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/selecting/
Enjoy!
Over in the UK most pool players including American pool players will play with an open bridge.. Very rarely do you see the closed loop. My theory is that snooker is more widely played than in the states so most pick this up from a very early age. Saying that I do think a closed bridge offers some advantages like you state in certain situation. Thanks for the great videos dave. Greatly appreciated
Thanks for the perspective. I'm glad you liked the video.
Im from the UK and an open bridge is pretty ubiquitous over here. I do use the closed bridge on some down the rail shots as you described.
Sometimes you UK guys are smart. :)
Thanks Doc you help my game a lot! I would like to know what size type you use for your cue? And what’s again (thanks).
All of my equipment info is under "What's in Your Bag?" near the bottom of the page here:
billiards.colostate.edu/dr-dave/interview/
Dr Dave, which taper of a shaft do you consider best for an open bridge player? I recently got a cynergy and did not like it.
One advantage of an open bridge is the shaft diameter and taper make no difference. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/open/
and:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/size-and-shape/
Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards The Cynergy's "super slim taper" Definitely does not feel good with an open bridge.
@@DrDaveBilliards There is definitely a difference in feel and playability coming from playing with a pro taper.
I personally don't have any issues with any shaft size or taper, but "feel" is definitely a very subjective thing.
People also make a big deal about the "hit," "feel," "feedback," or "playability" of cues, but this stuff is also unimportant to me per the info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/feel/
Question: lets say you make a ball on opening break, this means the table is still open, does this mean u can still make a combo of stripe to solid to make the solid in?
... under the WPA official rules of pool, yes. For more info, see the videos and links here:
billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you! I have made so much progress since watching your vids! thanks again for answering my random questions, I really appreciate it!
hey dr dave! awesome video man! if you do usually respond, what is the cue stick that you use? like which company/brand made it and whats it made of, it looks clean as hell!
All of my equipment is listed here:
billiards.colostate.edu/dr-dave/interview/#Case
Great video. I think the closed bridge is popular in 3 cushion billards but I'm not sure it's because of heavier balls? I always use the open bridge for pool, but one bad habit I see with open brigde is to raise the back of the hand making an unstable bridge.
The cue would tend to leave an open bridge more with the heavier ball and he wide range of spin shots they use, especially with any power. This doesn't affect the shot, it can be annoying, and it can cause you to foul on a nearby ball.
Thanks Dr Dave. What about for the break shot? Seems like the closed bridge is popular there.
I use a closed bridge for the break and an open bridge for every other shot. It works for me.
An open bridge can work for the break, but most people prefer a closed bridge with a power break.
Thank you! I've been trying to teach my niece this but didn't know how to articulate it besides just telling her it was better lol
I hope you can get your niece to watch the video.
Hi Dr. Dave can you make a video which briefly explains different variations of billiard games around the world?
That's a good suggestion. I'll add it to my list; although, my "list" is quite long. BTW, the Wikipedia "Cue Sports" page does a fairly good job of this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sports
I didn't realize you're in Fort Collins, I'm stationed in Cheyenne so I've been driving down there pretty much every weekend to play pool
Cool. Are you in a league, or do you play in tournaments?
@@DrDaveBilliards I've been considering joining a league
I, too, believe that both open and closed bridges have their use. Depends on the shot. I like to use a closed bridge for all my draw shots. It provides the best security for me. I use the close bridge on a lot of center ball and follow shots. It all boils down to what works best for you as an individual.
Well stated last sentence.
bonus points for good pronunciation of "snooker", DD!!!
Thanks. I try.
The common hand bridge I use is an open hand bridge. Except for rail close bridge and sometimes break shots.
What about in regards to the break? I hardly ever see anyone use an open bridge for the break, maybe have seen Johnny Archer do that a few times. But every real good breaker typically breaks with a closed bridge, do you think there is any merit in using the closed bridge for breaking purposes, does it have strong advantages here? This could be due to underlying technique issues, but i find with the closed bridge, it is much easier to deliver maximum power controllably, where I'm pretty much lunging at the shot.
Agreed. Most people use a closed bridge on the break, but an open bridge can also work fine, assuming one has good technique.
As per JJ (Jeremy Jones) mosconi cup captain.. "The closed bridge promotes a better swing and promotes trust, that you don't need to aim too much like you would with an open bridge.. That the aiming should have been long gone before the last few practice strokes" (I'm Paraphrasing)
Your thoughts dr. Dave?? I heard him say this during the ko pin chung Josh filler match 10ball final. where Josh changed from an open to a closed bridge..
That he has never adviced a player to use the open bridge for a certain shot when they are using a closed bridge but has said it many times the other way around...
If somebody feels more secure or confident with a closed bridge, then it is the right choice for them. However, the advantages of an open bridge are compelling, especially when you see the effectiveness of snooker players.
I don't know what he means with aiming "too much". The aiming part happens before you go into the shot anyways, when you're down in the shot, you should never aim the shot once you're already down, unless maybe you're using a lot of side and compensate for deflection. But even that can be done when you look at the shot and how you want to play it
@@Ironsvillage I thi k that's what he means.. That with the closed bridge, you have to aim before going down on the shot.. And that you have to TRUST that aiming and not re-aim while your down on your shot.. I think that's what he meant..
I do a decent amount of small pump strokes prior to hitting the ball and the obstructed view with a closed bridge always drives me crazy. I can't visualize where I am aiming on the cue ball. I generally only use closed on the break and rail side draws/stops.
i always used open bridge when i used to play simply cuz it felt more comfortable. the cue always felt like it would stick against my index finger.
i was taught to play with a closed bridge, and originally only saw people use the open when shooting up against the cushion. eventually i just switched to using the open when i realized it simply felt more natural 🤷♂️
The open bridge has many advantages, as summarized here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/open/
In my opinion, the real issue with a shot like 8:07 is that you're increasing your cue elevation angle unnecessarily, which compounds effects of inadvertent swerve. Ideally, you would place the cue directly on the rail, and wrap your index finger over it in a sort of "closed" bridge. This gets your hand out from underneath the cue, allowing you to lower your elevation angle, increasing your accuracy.
Agreed. I was adding cue elevation on that shot on purpose to exaggerate the cue-lifting-off-the-bridge effect. I wouldn't normally shoot the shot like that unless the CB were closer to the rail or if I were bridging over an obstacle ball.
@@DrDaveBilliards Yep, totally agree. This situation is one of a few where the rail forces me to a closed bridge.
One thing your video made me think about is table size. Someone like you or me, who shares this open-when-possible philosophy, is going to be using a closed bridge a lot more often on a 7 foot table than a 12 foot. I wonder if this could partially explain the trends we see in open and closed bridges between the two cue sports.
Good point. Table size can be a small factor, but I almost never use a closed bridge, even on a "bar box."
i use the open bridge. My friend uses a weird way of setting the cue between the knuckles of the index and middle finger. I tried it and its actually pretty comfy.
I almost included that option in the video, but I thought some people might think it was too silly.
What is the song you use for the intro/wrap up?
It is generated electronically in my video editing software. It is not commercially available music.
By all means, if you have not tried an open bridge you should give it a shot. But it is not the panacea many believe it is. I use an open bridge for many shots, but there are still many times that I go to a closed bridge because it just feels better to me and gives me more confidence.
And when I seem to be struggling, I go back to a closed bridge and it seems to bring me out of my funk. I am here in the Philippines and I see both closed bridge and open bridge and there doesn't seem to be much difference in talent one way or another - and there is a LOT of talent here.
I also think that if someone is just starting out that an open bridge is probably the best way to go for them as it just becomes totally natural. I just really feel more comfortable with the "snugness" of the closed bridge, but I am trying to go more and more to the open bridge. I wish I had started with the open bridge many years ago.
Whatever one chooses, practice (lots of it) is still a requirement.
I haven't watched a lot of pool but I've also noticed the trend of using the open bridge a lot more than when I first got interestes in cue sports. Back then I was already wondering why pool players tend to use the closed bridge whereas snooker players always use the open bridge. Now it seems that the vast majority of the young pool players are using the open bridge.
Rarely a closed bridge seems to be better when the cue ball is in an awkward spot. Good video I do think a closed bridge is overrated.
Agreed.
I’ve been using an open bridge since I was 6 years old and now am 67 never a problem
An advantage of not switching back and forth between open and closed bridges is consistency. Since you're only using one bridge, it's one less variable to control for.
You mean, all those years I spent learning to shoot comfortably with a closed bridge could have been better utilized? 🤔 Informative video, as always, Dr. Dave.
Yep. I'm glad you liked it. I have a few pool friends and students I've tried to convince over the years. Maybe this will help push them over the edge.
@@DrDaveBilliards Like you, I was swayed by watching the ability of some snooker players to get incredible cue ball action with their open bridges.
Yup. Me too.
@@DrDaveBilliards
Do you still like a good challenge play for a buck or two or whatever ?
I'm not challenging you I just curious.
Keith Kuhn
I've never been able to use closed bridge, cue won't glide when I try it.
Im definitely still a beginner but i like to use both techniques when needed. I love the accuracy of snooker players so ive been trying to take little tidbits of how they shoot to my pool game. Including that chin technique. Im sure people like ronnie o' sullivan have a callus on their chin from how hard they press the cue into it lol.
I love watching (and learning from) snooker. Their technique and effectiveness are marvels to observe.
Chin on the cue goes crazy 😅 would’ve never known
For a list of all the advantages of a low stance, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/low/
So a closed bridge might "help" a player with bad fundamentals. An open bridge will punish bad fundamentals quicker. That helps with identifying a problem and therefore helps with improving.
Would you say it's the same with a dime vs a nickel shaped tip?
I'm a beginner with a nickel shaped tip and I'm thinking about switching to a dime shape. I probably will play worse at first but I'll get a better feedback whether my cueing was accurate or not. Am I correct?
The difference between nickel and dime tip shape is not as big as some people might think. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/size-and-shape/
Efren Reyes and Django Bustamante have the best bridge.specifically Django.you can see how he has much control of his cueing.with a firm closed bridge and a very loose grip in the other hand.very sophisticated to look but so effective.he has even more power when drawing the cue ball.
It just depends on what is comfortable. I was in a pool hall with Bustamante about a year ago. I saw the guy make power shots with a closed grip that was damn near frightening.
If you play as much as those guys have, you can master any technique.
The thumbnail had one job
Apparently, it worked because you noticed it and commented on it! :)
I only use closed when open isn't possible, like on the bridge-side rail (as mentioned in the disadvantages). Open all the way for me.
Great minds think alike. :)
I use a closed bridge alot on softer touch shots to help control the speed of my stroke
I think an open bridge is much better for finesse shots, especially if you practice them.
I use a closed bridge and it allows me to make excellent shots with a lot of power, accuracy, and stability. I do have really long fingers, so that could just be it!
Long fingers help with both bridge types.
@@DrDaveBilliards i'll try your advice tonight and see how it goes!
@@ramziel-jabali9083 Sounds good. Let me know how it goes.
@@DrDaveBilliards Big game changer, thanks for the advice!
@@ramziel-jabali9083 I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
I actually do prefer a closed bridge but I switch between closed and open bridge. closed bridge for shots that I need more comfort with because I am more comfortable with it. but for shots that are harder, I use an open bridge to see better. That's just me
I find it to be an interesting oddity of our language that the best term for the shape our hand makes on a flat surface is the ‘footprint’.
Good point. I guess I could have called it a "handprint" instead. :)
It comes from the tire industry, for one. And I guess paleontologists. :-) Then the power folks started using the term to describe consumption rates. So riding a bicycle for 30 years means that I have had a very small "carbon footprint" on the grand scale of things. But any device or structure meant to hold something above it stationary is typically referred to in mechanical engineering as a foot. I like "equivalent" and "equivocal". NOT similar in meaning. Surprise!
Hello Dr. Dave. I am a very occasional and, thus, not particularly effective player, but I enjoy the game nonetheless. I have also developped quite a fondness, over recent years, for the game of snooker, which I have never played (snooker tables are almost as rare as dodo sightings in my neck of the woods, i.e. not in the U.K.), but for which I am an avid viewer.
Not intending any disrespect to anyone, I have always believed snooker is to pool as chess is to checkers, in terms of strategy, but mostly in terms of pure queuing skills.
In that spirit, I would love to see you tackle some snooker-related topics, from the basics to the more technical aspects, or side-by-side comparisons between pool and snooker, whether regarding history, equipment, or when players occasionally crossover from one discipline to the other.
I am aware that you might be limited by the fact that you are in the same geographical disadvantage that I find myself in, Colorado being especially not in the U.K., but if you could find a way, I would watch those lessons with great interest, along with many other fans I am sure. Thank you for all your work and please keep on with the teaching.
That would be fun, but I do not have convenient access to snooker equipment.
… and my list of possible future pool video topics is incredibly long.
I used closed bridge for accuracy and truck shots while using open bridge is for shots I can’t exactly use closed bridge
I'm comfortable with both. I switch between both depending on the shot.
i regret not using a closed bridge for the 10 ball and 9 ball breaks, and also for long distance screw shots, however i feel a lot more comfortable with an open bridge in general.
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I think it depends on a persons individual comfort with either or... I've been playing pool and 3 cushion billiards for over 40 years with a closed bridge and wouldn't switch to an open bridge for anything. It's a personal preference thing. There is no "better way" IMHO.
The main advantages of an open bridge are less important in 3-cushion since the stance is usually higher.
Love it
I hope it helps.
Eeeeah, new episode!
Sorry I've been away for a while. I had an extremely busy last month. Hopefully, I'll be able to post more frequently going forward (except when Thanksgiving and Christmas come along).
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“A closed grip has more fleshy contact with the shaft”
Can’t argue with that
I knew that was "coming."
There are a select few shots that I am extremely comfortable playing with a closed bridge, but most of the time, the open bridge is a safe bet.
I use a closed bridge only when it is absolutely required (which is almost never).
@@DrDaveBilliards I always yell "Corey Deuel!" when i attempt a long draw shot with a closed bridge.
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I actually started using an open bridge after watching snooker. I was surprised it took me so long before I made the transition
When you see how accurate those snooker guys are, it is hard to doubt the open bridge.
The only time I use a closed bridge is when the cue ball is directly on a rail. I find that it prevents the cue tip from riding up and miscuing
Never thought I’d hear dr. Dave say “fleshy contact with the shaft”💀
Another place where a closed bridge seems to be useful is with more extensive topping shots. At least that has been my experience. You can force a bit more cue action without as much likelihood for a miscue. Watching this I probably use it far too much though, and will look at limiting that and working the rest of the stroke mechanics for some ultimate advantage. Interesting topic.
I always figured one of the main reasons you don't see snooker players using open bridges is that their strokes don't appear to be as highly powered up as often as seems to be required in some types of pool shots, the most obvious being breaking. The main point I would make is that IIRC you almost never see a pro breaking open bridge. I will watch more intently to verify if that is true. I suspect the closed bridge is almost a requirement there, for best results. One very serious clue is that if pros aren't doing it, you probably don't want to be either. Just sayin'.
I know it is counterintuitive, but the bridge has no effect on the shot at impact because the CB is gone before the bridge "feels" anything. For more info, see the video and explanation here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/squirt/bridge-length/
Snooker definitely involves power shots on occasion, especially power draw (skrew back) shots. They use an open bridge for power shots also, and they are often impressively accurate even with the power.
Thanks for this. I have radial nerve damage from a dog bite in my left (bridge) hand so cannot do a good closed bridge. I also have arthritis in both hands and wrists so my bridge isn't the best, but i can still play.. Wrote that half way through, if i have a difficult shot I play left handed and people hate that I can. I have never used a closed bridge and only found out about it watching yt videos. i don't really watch my opponents hand when I play them, I watch the balls
I can't do an open bridge everyone says it's easy but my que just flies off my thumb genuinely don't understand the open bridge I started with closed and people keep telling me to switch and I just can't
Hopefully, the advice in the video helps. For more info and help, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/
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