i see the 512, the 513, and the 514 and a 4th unit almost all the time at 30th street..i even saw one of the units pull a cab car at 1 am past my house..it woke me up because the sound of these units is different then the P42's..if it was a P42 i would have stayed asleep..lol..awesome video!!
Nice catch! HaHa, this is a daily occurance for us here in Cali. We have 503, 505, 507, 509 and 510 based here. 503 is on #3 third unit right now, due into SoCal tommorow morning. 509 is 2nd unit on #11 due into SoCal tonight. 507 is on 798/799, as it has been for months. 510 is working Cascades Service in Oregon/WA. and who knows what 505 is up to. Nice Video!!!
The engines are connected to eachother with MU, or "multiple unit", cables. Basically when engines are MU'd together, or "lashed up", all of the trailing units will do whatever the engineer is making the lead engine do, be it throttle setting, brake application, headlights, etc. In a lashup, all of the engines operate as one, and because of that the trailing units don't require an additional crew - they're all operated by the engineer in the lead unit.
Ive seen a UP SD9044 on point with 2 P42's and all passanger cars, in Grand Junction, CO. One of the Genesis units burst a coolant hose near Green River Utah, so they picked up some well needed power. I worked for a hotel where I had to pick up the engeneers that were being switched out. Wish i could have filmed it. Gread vid by the way.
This is quite interesting. I don't know anything about train engines (this looks like a good place to learn), but it was cool watching this train since I've been on it quite a few times in the past, but not recently. Makes me want to jump onboard and go somewhere. I miss it!
@jfsa380 The Dash 8's only have 3200 horsepower, versus 4200 on the Genesis units, so they aren't quite as powerful and would be more suited to short-haul trains. In the past, though, before the Genesis engines arrived, they ferequently pulled long distance trains such as the Coast Starlight and Southwest Chief, so they certianly are capable. The cabs probably aren't much different as far as controls, they both have desktops which I don't think engineers like as much as control stands.
@TheMattsbro Most people would probably say an F40, but since Amtrak doesn't run any anymore that's not an option. I don't know whether the Dash 8's have had reliability issues like Genesis or not.
@HoosierLine They might be. From looking at the video, the gates were only fully down 13 seconds before the train hit the crossing. What's even worse is that sometimes people STILL go around the gates in front of the train. The same day I filmed this, I got a BNSF work train and a car went around the gates right in front of it.
You are right about being rare. Back in July 2011 I've seen 2 of the Dash 8's here in Michigan ,# 517 and 519. something i never seen in Michigan. Defanatlly rare.
Don't worry, I think we'd all like to see those again! During Train Festival last year in Rock Island, railfans flocked to see the Nebraska Zephyr's exursion train just as if it was a steam engine. You could barely get down the road that was along the tracks there were so many of them!
@supersurfliner I think more of them are used in LA (507 and 510 are based there, I think). Not sure how many they have at Emeryville/Oakland. Caltrans has their two (2051 and 2052), and one of them actually led the Zephyr once years ago.
@jfsa380 The reason Amtrak has the Pepsi Cans is that Amtrak wanted some new engines before the first Genesis units' design was finalized. To make the engines ready to use as soon as possible, GE just used their already existing Dash 8 freight carbody and basically added HEP and other Amtrak specs. I agree the Dash 8's are awesome and it's too bad they don't come out of the yards more often. They surely can, though, because I believe all 20 are still in operation, somewhere on the Amtrak system!
The California Zephyr needs two engines to get through the Rockies and the Sierra Nevada mountains - on a normal day there'd just be two engines, but once in a while you'll see three. A lot of times when you see three engines, one isn't running, and it's usually because it's being relocated on the Amtrak system, heading to Chicago for repairs, etc. In this instance, the Dash 8's engine wasn't running but was leading the train because the 2nd engine couldn't lead due to some sort of problem.
Just had a Dash 8 pull my San Joaquin train from Modesto to Emeryville last week. DOnt remember what # it was :/ I was quite surprised to see it pull into the station when i was expecting the usual F59(i believe). It was awesome!
Nothing will ever look and sound better than a high wheel steam engine hauling a passenger train. This is my perspective after 46 yeasts in engine service, 8 of which were during the steam era. Jerry Williams retired S P engineer
Something went wrong with the first P42 (#125) that prevented it from leading, however it apparently could still run. I guess they didn't have enough time to swap #25 on to the front so they tacked the Dash 8 on instead.
I see a Dash 8 at least once a week pull into the Pontiac, MI yard. Amtrak is slowly phasing out the Dash 8's across the country due to fuel efficiency and speed improvements.It's be nice if they could keep a few trains and just add them on a heritage route schedule.
Two main reasons: One, this train (California Zephyr) eventually reaches mountains (Rockies and Sierras), so it will need two units once it reaches them. Second, thanks to Amtrak's "state of good repair" maintenance, the locomotives often fail en route, so many trains have two units to prevent a train from being stranded, even if the route isn't along mountains.
@countrymusicgtavboy2 When they were in their original as-delivered paint schemes, they got that nickname because the Amtrak livery resembled the styling of a Pepsi can. The Dash 8's were the only units that were painted that way. Today they've all been repainted.
Yeah I know - what's interesting is I remember seeing a picture of one leading the Zephyr west out of Chicago a few years ago, so it is known to happen!! That would be sweet!
@theorangelemons I agree. I think now that there are more trains on Amtrak's corridors (like California, midwest, Pacific NW, etc) that the Dash 8's are working passenger trains more often. Really, they're just as good as the Genesis engines except they only have 3200 horsepower, but that's plenty to run a short train.
The Amtrak 500 series GE 8-32 locomotive's are officially used as yard power, for MOW trains and on occasion to fill in for ailing P42 class engines. The 8-32 engines have the same HEP capability as the P42's do 1100 KW 800 horsepower for light heat and air conditioning on the trains.with only 3200 horsepower available that leaves 2400 horsepower to move the locomotive and train. Still better than a dead engine and a cold freezing train.they were the first modern power Amtrak purchased after the U30CH's they had so much trouble with. These have been relatively trouble free.
Because there are only 25 of these on the entire system and they tend to be be congregated for certain assignments. However, they sometimes are to be found leading or in trail on the Zephyr here, or the Southwest Chief...as stated above in the photographer's comments...a RARITY among the generic GE P42DC Genesis units. Generally this is done on account of power failure, or, of course, "positioning moves" when they need to head back east to Amtrak's Beech Grove Shops for scheduled heavy rbld, etc
A lot of differences. First, the ES44AC is uses AC traction motors while the Dash 8's are DC. The newer Evolution diesels also are equipped with a GEVO-12 engine, and the Dash 8's had the older FDL-series. The technology is also somewhat dated, since these particular units were from the early 1990's.
There are two variations of the Dash 8. The six axle versions are the Dash 8-40C and 40CW's, four axle versions are the Dash 8-40B, Dash 8-40BW, and in this case Dash 8-32BWH. The "C" or "B" in the model designation tells you whether it's four axles (B-B) or six axles (C-C).
@trainmad345678 They're mainly used as switchers in Chicago, Los Angeles and maybe the Auto Train terminals as well. When they are put into service on regular Amtrak trains, they usually run the Coast Starlight, occasional midwest corridor trains and sometimes the Auto Train. They hardly ever operate around where I watch trains, so that's why I hadn't seen one in such a long time around here.
Hey there! Just wanted to drop you a comment because Im here at San Diego Downtown (old Santa Fe depot) and the 503 is sitting right here in front of me. I looks it up and found your video, its so cool to know how long this loco has been in service and how far its traveled away from home! Still looks great and sounds great! Ill take a picture on Instagram - username is AsthMattic over there too, thanks for this video!
@theorangelemons agreed, i think that the Dash-8's look absolutely gorgeous, and give Amtrak a very utilitarian look. kinda like, 'y'all french people got your streamlines, we Americans have this, and we mean business'
Even as a kid, it was kind of scary walking up toward the Engines... Still, get that weak feeling in my knees, even today! - 3:34 Those old Santa Fe F-9's could fire off the pneumatics without warning. Like a shot gun!!!
@roccotoothycombs i know, i just love the different look of the dash 8. They look like they took a freight locomotive and just painted em' silver and blue!
I see these run the Empire Builder.. They run out to naperville sometimes and come back hauling metra cars..The enginer told me "We like to have good relations".. That enginer said he's pulled a 200 car coal train for the BNSF when the train ran out of fuel.. I see about 3 amtraks a day... I know they have one that always run's a dash 8 in joliet
@EverywhereWest thanks, so the genesis is not necessarily more comfortable for long-hauls, but if need be, the dash-8's can relatively quickly and simply fill in for the genesis', thanks
Awesome! Amtrak seems to have these stationed in large cities, with some in Chicago. AMTK 500, the first one, is stationed in Chicago, where it goes on the Hiawatha. IDK where the others are, but I do believe all of them are still running.
You are correct, I believe all 20 are in operation. A few other places I know that they're stationed: Los Angeles, the Pacific Northwest (Cascades), the Northeast (they operate on the Pennsylvanian quite a bit), and the Auto Train terminals (Lorton, VA, Sanford, FL). Also, the state of California owns two, 2051 and 2052 (former Amtrak 501 and 502) for operation on the San Joaquin and Capitol Corridor in the San Francisco area.
Bobby Harvey It surprises me that a locomotive of 103MPH is allowed to go onto the NE Corridor. They don't operate the section between Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, they operate the whole thing. And I believe the Dash-8 in the Pacific NW is located in Seattle, since The Empire Builder, Coast Starlight, Cascades, Sounder North and South, Rocky Mountaineer, and Link Light Rail all have their termini at King Street Station. So if anywhere, it would be there.
I've seen the Dash 8 locomotive on the Crescent a few times, but I do like the P-42 diesel locomotives, but I wish the P-42's had the flashing strobe lights on top like the F40-PH diesels had, that would be cool. :)
I have only seen one amtrak train so far and i believe it too had a dash 8 unit leading but im not to sure but it had six axle's and the number on the engine was 512.
@EverywhereWest they should at least haul all the long hauls, like the Calif. Zephyr, SW Chief, Capitol limited, etc. but maybe the engineers like the genesis cab for longer hauls, but i don't know, are the genesis' more powerful, or what is the major advantages or either or both?
Also we mostly have P32 ACDMs Leading Mostly all Empire Service Trains in the 145 Paint scheme And also leading the Ethan Allen Express and P42s Leading the lakeshore limited
About the only difference from the freight haulers are the trucks, bolsters and wheel setups on these. Normally they have 3 axle per. The body looks pretty much the same.
![[Rare!] Dash 8-32BWH Leading Amtrak 91!!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/I9KVy4Cp27w/mqdefault.jpg)
Cool! I have fond memories of #503 - she was the trailing unit behind Genesis #81 on the Empire Builder back in June 2013. Nice to see her leading!
Wow, that is harder to come by than a Dash-8 on the Chief, and that never happens. Glad you covered it!
@AMTK510 "507 is on 798/799, as it has been for months" Well...maybe only 1 month ;)
I have seen the Dash 8's on the Kansas City /St Louis Mule quite often when I get that way.
i see the 512, the 513, and the 514 and a 4th unit almost all the time at 30th street..i even saw one of the units pull a cab car at 1 am past my house..it woke me up because the sound of these units is different then the P42's..if it was a P42 i would have stayed asleep..lol..awesome video!!
Nice catch! HaHa, this is a daily occurance for us here in Cali.
We have 503, 505, 507, 509 and 510 based here.
503 is on #3 third unit right now, due into SoCal tommorow morning.
509 is 2nd unit on #11 due into SoCal tonight.
507 is on 798/799, as it has been for months.
510 is working Cascades Service in Oregon/WA.
and who knows what 505 is up to.
Nice Video!!!
-tones my voice to a K5LA-
That's quite a sight to see! I've seen #505 come through San Diego a couple of times, but we mostly have the F59's leading our Amtrak trains.
The engines are connected to eachother with MU, or "multiple unit", cables. Basically when engines are MU'd together, or "lashed up", all of the trailing units will do whatever the engineer is making the lead engine do, be it throttle setting, brake application, headlights, etc. In a lashup, all of the engines operate as one, and because of that the trailing units don't require an additional crew - they're all operated by the engineer in the lead unit.
Amtrak dash 8's are beautiful!
Ive seen a UP SD9044 on point with 2 P42's and all passanger cars, in Grand Junction, CO. One of the Genesis units burst a coolant hose near Green River Utah, so they picked up some well needed power. I worked for a hotel where I had to pick up the engeneers that were being switched out. Wish i could have filmed it. Gread vid by the way.
Looks like you were in the right place at the right time. Nice job!
Didja notice? The previous engineer's gear disappears the second the nose door on the lead engine is closed. Magical!
This is quite interesting. I don't know anything about train engines (this looks like a good place to learn), but it was cool watching this train since I've been on it quite a few times in the past, but not recently. Makes me want to jump onboard and go somewhere. I miss it!
@jfsa380 The Dash 8's only have 3200 horsepower, versus 4200 on the Genesis units, so they aren't quite as powerful and would be more suited to short-haul trains. In the past, though, before the Genesis engines arrived, they ferequently pulled long distance trains such as the Coast Starlight and Southwest Chief, so they certianly are capable. The cabs probably aren't much different as far as controls, they both have desktops which I don't think engineers like as much as control stands.
@TheMattsbro Most people would probably say an F40, but since Amtrak doesn't run any anymore that's not an option. I don't know whether the Dash 8's have had reliability issues like Genesis or not.
The Dash 8 I’m pretty sure, or the same type of engine pulls the North Carolina Amtrak into Salisbury most of the time
Actually nevermind 😂 I got my train types mixed up again
Nice K5LA horn on #503, love me some K5LA horn too :)
@HoosierLine They might be. From looking at the video, the gates were only fully down 13 seconds before the train hit the crossing. What's even worse is that sometimes people STILL go around the gates in front of the train. The same day I filmed this, I got a BNSF work train and a car went around the gates right in front of it.
Yeah, I've actually seen one of the only remaining Phase 4-painted B32-8BWH units in New Orleans!
You are right about being rare. Back in July 2011 I've seen 2 of the Dash 8's here in Michigan ,# 517 and 519. something i never seen in Michigan. Defanatlly rare.
Train crews usually carry some type of suitcase or luggage with them when on the road. I see this all of the time when train crews change.
@AMTK510 C'mon, just havn' a bit of fun mate!
Yes - it spreads more of the weight of the engine out along the wheels, making for a smoother ride and it also reduces wear on the track.
I still see F40's making round trips between Chicago, IL and Pontiac, MI via Wolverine line
Don't worry, I think we'd all like to see those again! During Train Festival last year in Rock Island, railfans flocked to see the Nebraska Zephyr's exursion train just as if it was a steam engine. You could barely get down the road that was along the tracks there were so many of them!
@supersurfliner I think more of them are used in LA (507 and 510 are based there, I think). Not sure how many they have at Emeryville/Oakland. Caltrans has their two (2051 and 2052), and one of them actually led the Zephyr once years ago.
@jfsa380 The reason Amtrak has the Pepsi Cans is that Amtrak wanted some new engines before the first Genesis units' design was finalized. To make the engines ready to use as soon as possible, GE just used their already existing Dash 8 freight carbody and basically added HEP and other Amtrak specs. I agree the Dash 8's are awesome and it's too bad they don't come out of the yards more often. They surely can, though, because I believe all 20 are still in operation, somewhere on the Amtrak system!
I love those Dash 8's!
dude thats really beast and lucky! my dad has dash 8 #505 from atlas in ho scale
The California Zephyr needs two engines to get through the Rockies and the Sierra Nevada mountains - on a normal day there'd just be two engines, but once in a while you'll see three. A lot of times when you see three engines, one isn't running, and it's usually because it's being relocated on the Amtrak system, heading to Chicago for repairs, etc. In this instance, the Dash 8's engine wasn't running but was leading the train because the 2nd engine couldn't lead due to some sort of problem.
Just had a Dash 8 pull my San Joaquin train from Modesto to Emeryville last week. DOnt remember what # it was :/ I was quite surprised to see it pull into the station when i was expecting the usual F59(i believe). It was awesome!
@jpsmith81 Also, Amtrak's Dash 8's have HEP, but not the freight varients like the Dash 8-40BW.
I believe it's a K5LA, just like on Genesis P42's. However, since the horn is in a different position on these units it sounds a little different.
Great catch. It would have been an even rarer catch if one of the AM Cal Dash 8s was leading the train.
2:27- Awesome shot! Nice video cool catch.
Nothing will ever look and sound better than a high wheel steam engine hauling a passenger train. This is my perspective after 46 yeasts in engine service, 8 of which were during the steam era.
Jerry Williams retired S P engineer
Something went wrong with the first P42 (#125) that prevented it from leading, however it apparently could still run. I guess they didn't have enough time to swap #25 on to the front so they tacked the Dash 8 on instead.
love that horn
Nice catch
the Dash-8's were used a lot in my neck of the woods on the Keystone Corridor last year theyre still using a couple of them
Amtrak 512 is indeed a Dash 8. They are numbered 500, 503-519.
@jpsmith81 A P32-8BWH seems to be a hood version of the P32AC-DM minus the third rail equipment.
I see a Dash 8 at least once a week pull into the Pontiac, MI yard. Amtrak is slowly phasing out the Dash 8's across the country due to fuel efficiency and speed improvements.It's be nice if they could keep a few trains and just add them on a heritage route schedule.
Two main reasons: One, this train (California Zephyr) eventually reaches mountains (Rockies and Sierras), so it will need two units once it reaches them. Second, thanks to Amtrak's "state of good repair" maintenance, the locomotives often fail en route, so many trains have two units to prevent a train from being stranded, even if the route isn't along mountains.
@countrymusicgtavboy2 When they were in their original as-delivered paint schemes, they got that nickname because the Amtrak livery resembled the styling of a Pepsi can. The Dash 8's were the only units that were painted that way. Today they've all been repainted.
Yeah I know - what's interesting is I remember seeing a picture of one leading the Zephyr west out of Chicago a few years ago, so it is known to happen!! That would be sweet!
@theorangelemons I agree. I think now that there are more trains on Amtrak's corridors (like California, midwest, Pacific NW, etc) that the Dash 8's are working passenger trains more often. Really, they're just as good as the Genesis engines except they only have 3200 horsepower, but that's plenty to run a short train.
I saw #503 on the Empire Builder three different times, it wasn't leading when I saw it, but it was still a great site nonetheless! :)
The Amtrak 500 series GE 8-32 locomotive's are officially used as yard power, for MOW trains and on occasion to fill in for ailing P42 class engines. The 8-32 engines have the same HEP capability as the P42's do 1100 KW 800 horsepower for light heat and air conditioning on the trains.with only 3200 horsepower available that leaves 2400 horsepower to move the locomotive and train. Still better than a dead engine and a cold freezing train.they were the first modern power Amtrak purchased after the U30CH's they had so much trouble with. These have been relatively trouble free.
the Pere Marquette from grand rapids to Chicago for years has had Dash 8 pulling the train and yes it had superliner cars
Because there are only 25 of these on the entire system and they tend to be be congregated for certain assignments. However, they sometimes are to be found leading or in trail on the Zephyr here, or the Southwest Chief...as stated above in the photographer's comments...a RARITY among the generic GE P42DC Genesis units. Generally this is done on account of power failure, or, of course, "positioning moves" when they need to head back east to Amtrak's Beech Grove Shops for scheduled heavy rbld, etc
what a great K5LA
L-O-V-E Dash 8 Amtraks!!!
saw a few days ago a dash 8 leading the 2012 anniversery loco
A lot of differences. First, the ES44AC is uses AC traction motors while the Dash 8's are DC. The newer Evolution diesels also are equipped with a GEVO-12 engine, and the Dash 8's had the older FDL-series. The technology is also somewhat dated, since these particular units were from the early 1990's.
There are two variations of the Dash 8. The six axle versions are the Dash 8-40C and 40CW's, four axle versions are the Dash 8-40B, Dash 8-40BW, and in this case Dash 8-32BWH. The "C" or "B" in the model designation tells you whether it's four axles (B-B) or six axles (C-C).
@trainmad345678 They're mainly used as switchers in Chicago, Los Angeles and maybe the Auto Train terminals as well. When they are put into service on regular Amtrak trains, they usually run the Coast Starlight, occasional midwest corridor trains and sometimes the Auto Train. They hardly ever operate around where I watch trains, so that's why I hadn't seen one in such a long time around here.
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Nice catch and continue doing what you do best!
i saw a tripple header amtrak with this as the 3rd engine
This is true, but it isn't every day you see one leading the Zephyr, that's what I meant by "super rare".
Thanks!
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What is rails of meadow hill?
Love those Dashes!!!!
Hey there! Just wanted to drop you a comment because Im here at San Diego Downtown (old Santa Fe depot) and the 503 is sitting right here in front of me. I looks it up and found your video, its so cool to know how long this loco has been in service and how far its traveled away from home! Still looks great and sounds great! Ill take a picture on Instagram - username is AsthMattic over there too, thanks for this video!
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You really don't see that any more. Nice video.
Very cool train video
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Nice catch bro!
@theorangelemons agreed, i think that the Dash-8's look absolutely gorgeous, and give Amtrak a very utilitarian look. kinda like, 'y'all french people got your streamlines, we Americans have this, and we mean business'
Even as a kid, it was kind of scary walking up toward the Engines... Still, get that weak feeling in my knees, even today! - 3:34 Those old Santa Fe F-9's could fire off the pneumatics without warning. Like a shot gun!!!
Great video.
@roccotoothycombs i know, i just love the different look of the dash 8. They look like they took a freight locomotive and just painted em' silver and blue!
@EverywhereWest u never really hear about a dash-8 breaking down as much as a p42 or any other locomotive tho
Wish they had more dash 8's
Yes, that's what Amtrak calls them.
I see these run the Empire Builder.. They run out to naperville sometimes and come back hauling metra cars..The enginer told me "We like to have good relations".. That enginer said he's pulled a 200 car coal train for the BNSF when the train ran out of fuel.. I see about 3 amtraks a day... I know they have one that always run's a dash 8 in joliet
@EverywhereWest thanks, so the genesis is not necessarily more comfortable for long-hauls, but if need be, the dash-8's can relatively quickly and simply fill in for the genesis', thanks
Very Nice!!!
I was once on an Amtrak Capitol which was powered by a Dash 8.
Cool thank you for pointing that out.
nice video, nice sound
Yep, they were numbered in the 500's and 600's.
@TheMattsbro Yeah they look pretty cool. I've always been a fan of Genesis myself but the older F40's and Dash 8's are awesome too.
I'm pretty sure it was the engineer's that was getting off (I edited it out I think)
Awesome! Amtrak seems to have these stationed in large cities, with some in Chicago. AMTK 500, the first one, is stationed in Chicago, where it goes on the Hiawatha. IDK where the others are, but I do believe all of them are still running.
You are correct, I believe all 20 are in operation. A few other places I know that they're stationed: Los Angeles, the Pacific Northwest (Cascades), the Northeast (they operate on the Pennsylvanian quite a bit), and the Auto Train terminals (Lorton, VA, Sanford, FL). Also, the state of California owns two, 2051 and 2052 (former Amtrak 501 and 502) for operation on the San Joaquin and Capitol Corridor in the San Francisco area.
Bobby Harvey
It surprises me that a locomotive of 103MPH is allowed to go onto the NE Corridor. They don't operate the section between Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, they operate the whole thing. And I believe the Dash-8 in the Pacific NW is located in Seattle, since The Empire Builder, Coast Starlight, Cascades, Sounder North and South, Rocky Mountaineer, and Link Light Rail all have their termini at King Street Station. So if anywhere, it would be there.
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I've seen the Dash 8 locomotive on the Crescent a few times, but I do like the P-42 diesel locomotives, but I wish the P-42's had the flashing strobe lights on top like the F40-PH diesels had, that would be cool. :)
After significant protest from the engine crews, they were removed. Apparently they got headaches from the strobe effect all day.
@AlcoFan2010 the genesis is pretty much a dash 8
4:10 cool shot too.
i have seen this same engine down here in florida
I have only seen one amtrak train so far and i believe it too had a dash 8 unit leading but im not to sure but it had six axle's and the number on the engine was 512.
What was the point of having a 4 axle loco that could easily support 6?
Nice Catch!
@EverywhereWest they should at least haul all the long hauls, like the Calif. Zephyr, SW Chief, Capitol limited, etc. but maybe the engineers like the genesis cab for longer hauls, but i don't know, are the genesis' more powerful, or what is the major advantages or either or both?
Fun fact, this is the first video I watched on RUclips, and the first train video I seen on RUclips
Also we mostly have P32 ACDMs Leading Mostly all Empire Service
Trains in the 145 Paint scheme And also leading the Ethan Allen Express and P42s Leading the lakeshore limited
isnt that a P32-8W
How often do you see a P-42 pulling an Amtrak Cascades train?
About the only difference from the freight haulers are the trucks, bolsters and wheel setups on these. Normally they have 3 axle per. The body looks pretty much the same.