Needs time to adapt,the same thing xabi alonso did with leverkusen,dude picked up mid year,built the system and the next year won unbeaten both domestic cups
Hey man, it's sad nobody is talking about Gasperini at atalanta, both him and inzaghi have mastered the act. I also think this formtion/tactics depends also on the type and quality of players in your team (Alonso for instance).
The more i watch Amorim's beliefs in his system and tactics, the more Ten hags behaviour shocks me. How the heck did Ten hag just abandon his philosophy of football so easily at united? That was the main reason we hired him. We watched that amazing Ajax and dreamt...
Because he never had a system of his own. He didn't play his way at Ajax. He played Ajax's way. They had been playing that way for decades before him. He just happened to have their golden generation of players. He tried to do the same thing at United and let us organically play "the United way" but failed to realise that the players have had a ton of different systems over the last decade so there is no United way anymore. So instead we just got chaos.
I always knew it would be hard for Bruno because for some reason , he wants to start the attack or give the final pass everytime It’s not just this coach but with the past coaches as well This system makes him just one of 11 players and he’s finding it hard to adapt
@ he’s not good in tight spaces so it will be hard for him to adapt ,plus he wants to rush possession everytime looking for a long pass thereby losing the ball And he lacks discipline,he barely stays in the pivot ,before you know it he’s behind the striker again ,Amorim needs to tryout eriksen there as he played there under ETH ,has better vision and can play accurate passes in between lines
United have a strong tendency to build down the left. Which means Dalot, who isn't suited to be a wingback and can't cross the ball to save his life, is too involved in progression. Pretty sure that left wingback will be one of the first positions to be addressed in the transfer window. Your point about Bruno is spot on. He's the least positionally disciplined player in the side. Which may be why Amorim seems reluctant to play him behind the striker and will play him in the left of the midfield 2 when Garnacho comes back into the team.
@aidanmagill6769 I'd like to see Anthony given a run at right wing back. As much as I don't rate him, I think it would be a good opportunity to get him away from that left-footed curler and use him to ping crosses into the box. He's got good work rate and it'd give Dalot a much needed break.
Ruben Amorim will take Manchester United to the number 1 spot in the EPL. Not this season but for sure in the very near future . He came in half way through the current season so it’s not smart to judge his results now or even this season . He needs the correct players to work his system . Judge him next season to be fair .
While it's true players take different amounts of time to adapt, Dalot is struggling due to his position not ability. Shaw like Mount, despite being so talented is injured thus no cover for him . Malacia will slowly be integrated but we need a new LWB. A technically sound workhorse. Dalot could serve well as a utility player as could Maguire
Wing backs being high, pinning back the defenders should create more space between the lines. So the problem is not the wingbacks being too high not allowing the ball to get in behind, but rather the defenders or 6 not playing balls into the 8s/9 (8s/9 not finding/creating space), in-between the lines in the central area or half spaces, pulling the opposing CB's and/or FB's out of position, for then runs to go in-behind
I think the backline of Martinez - Maguire - De Ligt will be key to all of it. Dare I say, Harry freaking Maguire could be key for them much like Coates was for Sporting. Him being the middle CB negates all of his weaknesses, plus, he's actually quite adept on the ball and not afraid to carry it forward. He was also very vocal during the match and helped De Ligt, Lisandro with positioning. Mazroui at RWB will be fine, LWB is a HUGE problem at the moment. I think you'll see Ugarte in every match you can and it'll probably be Casemiro partnering him for the time being because he has better positional discipline than Mainoo, but Kobbie will really benefit from this in the long term because he has brilliant control and technique. Ideally Amorim would've wanted Mount and Diallo as the IF's, but Bruno will go there since Mount is out long term. Antony for a backup WB and they have the makings of a capable squad. I expect to see more youth players making the jump before the end of the season as well.
With current united squad rn, honestly I really wanna Fernando Diniz manage this teams..its very interesting what FM mentions about fluidity and current United player is very likely to move freely rathed than stick to the positions.. im sure winger like antony, rashford, amad and garnacho is very love his approach.. But yeah, we only got a person that only rely on 3-backs.. maybe he will become scapegoat if he still didnt perform with our current teams.. United's policy under INEOS (more budget savers) and FFPs also big challenges for him as we cannot get what amorim wanted..
You call various new injuries, 2-3 new scandals, new leaks, more conceded goals/game, less clean sheets and less shots a improvement. We see good signs but we saw them with earlier managers too. Untill all troublemakers are out there will be chaos
probably conte the most poitional. De zerbi very positional, but underlapping wingers and dropping 10+9 probably considered relationalist. Gasparini highly postional, but underlapping center backs and 10s have a degree of freedom. Enzo positional as well, but more dynamism then i expected from him this season.
From Ole to Ten Hag these players only know attacking football thats the reason why they lose the ball a lot they always looking to run the reason why they beat City is not because City is bad at the moment but is because of almost 50/50 position of ball.
Don't you think the system MUST be more flexible and fluid in the premier league or else our build up and attacking structure would be too predictable?
@ oh, i know. But with player got from Ten Hag, its not easy to fix right now. Flexible can be improved with a new mindset of new coach. Man utd squad is not bad, but still wait for new contracts. Players like Antony must be replaced
@@arrow2380 In the Premier League most teams can't make 5 intermediate passes in a row. Don't believe me? Watch any game between 7th to 20th placed teams.
@@stnbch3025 They can and they do if you actually the games, you'd know that. Even awful Wolves is perfectly capable for sterile possession at their defensive third. It's just most of teams aren't fortunately interested doing endless lateral passes, without any intent.
i think we may also factor in that the premier league sides press better and are more intense hence making it difficult to go to the other flank coz they set a trap for when the ball is played wide. but also progressing wide can be used to an advantage so maybe they can use it well. actually it has been used effectively sometimes. however with the dilenma create by players not doing as sporting did, he can maybe change positions of players that love to be on the ball. man utd are struggling to progress the ball but also easy to defend against in a low block but also prone to counter attacks. i would suggest that if possible, have your best 1v1 forwards in wide spaces coz they are more dangerous and have thise full backs invert abd attack half spaces. this gives better rest defence but also good underlapping runs to create space to cut inside for the winger. this would suit the forwards man utd has to occupy the two 10s positions. then have bruno play double pivot. it is also to note that positional structures are good but if u can incorporate two fluid players in phases it could be effective to beat the press. de zerbi used his strikers and 10 to do this while villa also used the striker to drop off and do this but with a target to isolate the full back against quick wingers which amorim can achieve. amorim needs to shop adaptability coz the league is much more tough and with better opponents and coaches to expolit system weaknesses. defensive strength and breaking down defenses whilst beating presses is something to sort out. the system has flaws that need to be worked upon thank you for being very spot on on the differences.
I think if we buy Omar Marmoush and Theo Hernandez in January, it would significantly transform United and help us win the Europa. The Europa is our only route back to UCL
Bruno never makes those inside channel runs you would see Mount do, hence why Amorim started to prefer mount over Bruno Because Bruno always goes wide and deep leaving the LWB and the ST isolated hence why I think Bruno’s future role is in the 8
Amorim knows a lot, very impressive but you can’t overload the players with lots of information. Every game that passes United improve that’s way important that winning actually.😅
Is it Sarri? I think Amorim is a really good positional coach and when it gets going it gets really well oiled but hes still a one trick poney. Modern football positional coaches without relativism get their gameplan well studied and against equal or better teams that know how they behave it will be very hard. When that happens he usually crosses from CB to forward for a lateral pass for a more direct approach. More than gyokeres I believe he will buy Pote and maybe hjulmand at the end of the season or quenda.
I don't usually like the over analysis of tactics because they make a lot of assumptions and state the obvious and can't tell cause from effect. It's like watching a documentary on National Geographic and trying to create an arched story with characters about a lion "family" when all that's really happening is them randomly going about their life and sitting on a shit puddle full of flies. They just force the story as if the lions really are thinking and doing when it's all random shit. Same with tactics videos. Half of what they "analyse" is shit that just happened to happen. However,... I immediately subscribed after watching this video. Minute 2:42 at the pass maps, my jaw dropped. This is true analysis of true things, not fantasy. You can clearly see what he's trying to do, and why he's not there yet.
Needs better players. They ain’t technical enough to keep the ball. Some of these players are all about treating the ball like a hot potato and also some of these players aimlessly run and then get caught off position. A lot of mistakes happening but that’s bound to happen when we actually playing a style of play. We haven’t had this level of system since LVG. Anyhow better technical players and removing players who want to hold on to old regime Style will help Amorim to get to the brand of football he wants.
Man United needs to go down to the second league and then to rise like a Phoenix. Or it can be 20 years playing like a 3rd league team, lead by thousands of tv, youtube and press ignorants, with the best coaches and best players, during 30 years. Or just to hire more one thousand coaches and in the end to prey by a miracle!
Needs time to adapt,the same thing xabi alonso did with leverkusen,dude picked up mid year,built the system and the next year won unbeaten both domestic cups
Yes, what I want from Amorim is to get the right signings 🙏
Hey man, it's sad nobody is talking about Gasperini at atalanta, both him and inzaghi have mastered the act. I also think this formtion/tactics depends also on the type and quality of players in your team (Alonso for instance).
The more i watch Amorim's beliefs in his system and tactics, the more Ten hags behaviour shocks me.
How the heck did Ten hag just abandon his philosophy of football so easily at united? That was the main reason we hired him. We watched that amazing Ajax and dreamt...
maybe his system didnt work out in the first few games, and he was bombarded by the media so he tried to be creative by neglecting his own system
Because he never had a system of his own. He didn't play his way at Ajax. He played Ajax's way. They had been playing that way for decades before him. He just happened to have their golden generation of players.
He tried to do the same thing at United and let us organically play "the United way" but failed to realise that the players have had a ton of different systems over the last decade so there is no United way anymore. So instead we just got chaos.
@@thebiglebrowski3695Chaos is a ladder 🪜 unfortunately for 10 hag it was a downwards one
very good explanation @@thebiglebrowski3695
@@thebiglebrowski3695lol but ajax wasn’t doing well before him
I always knew it would be hard for Bruno because for some reason , he wants to start the attack or give the final pass everytime
It’s not just this coach but with the past coaches as well
This system makes him just one of 11 players and he’s finding it hard to adapt
I think we can move him to the pivot besides ugarte and play amad, Hojlund, and the player we sign to replace rashford
@ he’s not good in tight spaces so it will be hard for him to adapt ,plus he wants to rush possession everytime looking for a long pass thereby losing the ball
And he lacks discipline,he barely stays in the pivot ,before you know it he’s behind the striker again ,Amorim needs to tryout eriksen there as he played there under ETH ,has better vision and can play accurate passes in between lines
@@incognito6183he needs to go
I would have said Maresca if you asked.. His Chelsea team, got players at fixed positions
Problem is you remove him, no-one else capable in the sqwad of playing those killer passes when it matters.
Its simple. Amorim has not had the training time at United yet. All this will come in time
what is Inzhagi's position in the relationism ranking? surely must be in the top 5, given how fluid his system is?
Like Inzaghi cares.
@@stnbch3025yeah bro because he asks for Inzaghi, he is very curious but shy and wont ask himself...
You do the job well
I really like your analysis
United have a strong tendency to build down the left. Which means Dalot, who isn't suited to be a wingback and can't cross the ball to save his life, is too involved in progression. Pretty sure that left wingback will be one of the first positions to be addressed in the transfer window. Your point about Bruno is spot on. He's the least positionally disciplined player in the side. Which may be why Amorim seems reluctant to play him behind the striker and will play him in the left of the midfield 2 when Garnacho comes back into the team.
Malacia should be up to speed soon and I think Amass will start getting minutes sooner, rather than later.
@aidanmagill6769 I'd like to see Anthony given a run at right wing back. As much as I don't rate him, I think it would be a good opportunity to get him away from that left-footed curler and use him to ping crosses into the box. He's got good work rate and it'd give Dalot a much needed break.
It could actually work as he's not a bad tackler, probably end up with more space and time on the ball too for his confidence.
Great video, as usual. Also that's a clever idea for a stat. Oh, and my guess is Conte.
Ruben Amorim will take Manchester United to the number 1 spot in the EPL. Not this season but for sure in the very near future . He came in half way through the current season so it’s not smart to judge his results now or even this season . He needs the correct players to work his system . Judge him next season to be fair .
Roberto de-zerbi, is the italian manager
it might be inzaghi.
@@pavlevasilev2968 no. inzaghi makes his centerbacks move up and is mixed in positional and relationism.
Might be Conte
I was wondering about de Zerbi. I haven't paid enough attention to Conte to know. I hope to find out which manager this is 😅
Allegri probably
I think this positional football is new to manunited it will take time to adapt. dalot is still struggling to grasp so is garnacho
I agree. Some players like Mazraoui seem to be adapting quicker.
While it's true players take different amounts of time to adapt, Dalot is struggling due to his position not ability. Shaw like Mount, despite being so talented is injured thus no cover for him . Malacia will slowly be integrated but we need a new LWB. A technically sound workhorse. Dalot could serve well as a utility player as could Maguire
@@Dmaj089 mmmmh I see
Wing backs being high, pinning back the defenders should create more space between the lines. So the problem is not the wingbacks being too high not allowing the ball to get in behind, but rather the defenders or 6 not playing balls into the 8s/9 (8s/9 not finding/creating space), in-between the lines in the central area or half spaces, pulling the opposing CB's and/or FB's out of position, for then runs to go in-behind
Was waiting for your video!!
I think the backline of Martinez - Maguire - De Ligt will be key to all of it. Dare I say, Harry freaking Maguire could be key for them much like Coates was for Sporting. Him being the middle CB negates all of his weaknesses, plus, he's actually quite adept on the ball and not afraid to carry it forward. He was also very vocal during the match and helped De Ligt, Lisandro with positioning. Mazroui at RWB will be fine, LWB is a HUGE problem at the moment. I think you'll see Ugarte in every match you can and it'll probably be Casemiro partnering him for the time being because he has better positional discipline than Mainoo, but Kobbie will really benefit from this in the long term because he has brilliant control and technique. Ideally Amorim would've wanted Mount and Diallo as the IF's, but Bruno will go there since Mount is out long term. Antony for a backup WB and they have the makings of a capable squad. I expect to see more youth players making the jump before the end of the season as well.
Antony should play RWB and Mazroui should play LWB
players are fluid because they have played their best football under solksjaer who did not have any apecific structure players were roaming around
Solskjaer is not really a reason. The squad changed a lot, only few players left, like Bruno and maguire
@@Bania107 I'm not blaming ole just stating
With current united squad rn, honestly I really wanna Fernando Diniz manage this teams..its very interesting what FM mentions about fluidity and current United player is very likely to move freely rathed than stick to the positions.. im sure winger like antony, rashford, amad and garnacho is very love his approach..
But yeah, we only got a person that only rely on 3-backs.. maybe he will become scapegoat if he still didnt perform with our current teams.. United's policy under INEOS (more budget savers) and FFPs also big challenges for him as we cannot get what amorim wanted..
You should check it out with all the fans who were shouting for eth to be backed no matter how rubbish the player he wants are.
Excellent analysis. I did say that it will take a while to undo the mess and chaos that Ten Hag left behind.
You call various new injuries, 2-3 new scandals, new leaks, more conceded goals/game, less clean sheets and less shots a improvement.
We see good signs but we saw them with earlier managers too.
Untill all troublemakers are out there will be chaos
I've been waiting for this video 😊
probably conte the most poitional.
De zerbi very positional, but underlapping wingers and dropping 10+9 probably considered relationalist.
Gasparini highly postional, but underlapping center backs and 10s have a degree of freedom.
Enzo positional as well, but more dynamism then i expected from him this season.
Because it's a rubbish dichotomy.
@@stnbch3025 yh it is relatively forced dichotomy when they are largely combined in every team.
Where can I get the metric/data in minute 1:23? I can't attend the masterclass 😅😅
Wich program do you use for those videos of the field positioning? Looks awesome!
Being too static will not work in premier league, they need to be able to do both as required by the game conditions
Probably will work for like half a season before all the other sides will figure it out..
From Ole to Ten Hag these players only know attacking football thats the reason why they lose the ball a lot they always looking to run the reason why they beat City is not because City is bad at the moment but is because of almost 50/50 position of ball.
I think what you meant is transistion football
@benitojayadas1876 yea,
Now if only Fan Channels would watch and understand this analysis!
Good Tactical Analysis
Better player can boost tactic of this coach. Wait for wiser tranfser polyci of Man UTD
Don't you think the system MUST be more flexible and fluid in the premier league or else our build up and attacking structure would be too predictable?
@ oh, i know. But with player got from Ten Hag, its not easy to fix right now. Flexible can be improved with a new mindset of new coach. Man utd squad is not bad, but still wait for new contracts. Players like Antony must be replaced
@@arrow2380 In the Premier League most teams can't make 5 intermediate passes in a row. Don't believe me? Watch any game between 7th to 20th placed teams.
@@stnbch3025 They can and they do if you actually the games, you'd know that. Even awful Wolves is perfectly capable for sterile possession at their defensive third.
It's just most of teams aren't fortunately interested doing endless lateral passes, without any intent.
i think we may also factor in that the premier league sides press better and are more intense hence making it difficult to go to the other flank coz they set a trap for when the ball is played wide. but also progressing wide can be used to an advantage so maybe they can use it well. actually it has been used effectively sometimes. however with the dilenma create by players not doing as sporting did, he can maybe change positions of players that love to be on the ball.
man utd are struggling to progress the ball but also easy to defend against in a low block but also prone to counter attacks.
i would suggest that if possible, have your best 1v1 forwards in wide spaces coz they are more dangerous and have thise full backs invert abd attack half spaces. this gives better rest defence but also good underlapping runs to create space to cut inside for the winger. this would suit the forwards man utd has to occupy the two 10s positions. then have bruno play double pivot.
it is also to note that positional structures are good but if u can incorporate two fluid players in phases it could be effective to beat the press. de zerbi used his strikers and 10 to do this while villa also used the striker to drop off and do this but with a target to isolate the full back against quick wingers which amorim can achieve.
amorim needs to shop adaptability coz the league is much more tough and with better opponents and coaches to expolit system weaknesses.
defensive strength and breaking down defenses whilst beating presses is something to sort out. the system has flaws that need to be worked upon
thank you for being very spot on on the differences.
Now do a video of signings and how we should lineup and who to sell
I think if we buy Omar Marmoush and Theo Hernandez in January, it would significantly transform United and help us win the Europa. The Europa is our only route back to UCL
We don't have the money for those in January.
@@alexfielding7191 unless we sell rashford
@@yayanartha21Rashford is worth 40m at best
@@et5061other than psg no one is paying him anything
Why would you need omar marmoush when you have hoglund and just bought zirkezee
Am still waiting for the tactical video for thiago Motta at juventus
Bruno never makes those inside channel runs you would see Mount do, hence why Amorim started to prefer mount over Bruno Because Bruno always goes wide and deep leaving the LWB and the ST isolated hence why I think Bruno’s future role is in the 8
Great analysis , let’s go MAN U !!
Where do we get the list of the manager?
Is it conteh at Napoli
Will the masterclass be available to download or purchase after tomorrow?
Amorim knows a lot, very impressive but you can’t overload the players with lots of information. Every game that passes United improve that’s way important that winning actually.😅
SHOCKING MOMENTS.🤯.
Could you tell me in which program did you animate your tactical board? Thanks in advance!
having a right footer on the left wingback is holding us back so much lol
Why do you think so because that's the system his Sporting played with?
Enzo maresca is the Italian manager or Maurizio Sarri
Is it Sarri? I think Amorim is a really good positional coach and when it gets going it gets really well oiled but hes still a one trick poney. Modern football positional coaches without relativism get their gameplan well studied and against equal or better teams that know how they behave it will be very hard. When that happens he usually crosses from CB to forward for a lateral pass for a more direct approach. More than gyokeres I believe he will buy Pote and maybe hjulmand at the end of the season or quenda.
make a top 10 most relational teams. is there any other brazilian?
Amorim IS THE TRUTH
Is this tactics same as tactics of oliver glasner?
Inter Milan coach simon inzaghi is the relational coach
I wonder what Ten Hags were at Ajax.
I don't usually like the over analysis of tactics because they make a lot of assumptions and state the obvious and can't tell cause from effect. It's like watching a documentary on National Geographic and trying to create an arched story with characters about a lion "family" when all that's really happening is them randomly going about their life and sitting on a shit puddle full of flies. They just force the story as if the lions really are thinking and doing when it's all random shit.
Same with tactics videos. Half of what they "analyse" is shit that just happened to happen.
However,... I immediately subscribed after watching this video. Minute 2:42 at the pass maps, my jaw dropped. This is true analysis of true things, not fantasy. You can clearly see what he's trying to do, and why he's not there yet.
Thank you mate appreciate it 💙
Ruben Amorim is very good manager but he will do better no matter what
It has to be De Zerbi
The way I was waiting for u to release this for Almorim can never be overstated 🙌🏾😮💨
Got to be Conte surely for less relational
is it sari?
Dalot is minus 1 , get a good LWB in and they will perform much better
Needs better players.
They ain’t technical enough to keep the ball. Some of these players are all about treating the ball like a hot potato and also some of these players aimlessly run and then get caught off position. A lot of mistakes happening but that’s bound to happen when we actually playing a style of play. We haven’t had this level of system since LVG. Anyhow better technical players and removing players who want to hold on to old regime Style will help Amorim to get to the brand of football he wants.
Hinting Bruno?
the italian manager is most likely playing a back 3-5. my guess is Conte
The one and only Gian Piero Gasperini💪🏿
This video should have been 2 seconds long. The problem is simple. These over played players can’t be asked to face a challenge
Ancellorti is the Italian Manager
Roderto De zerbi
Ruben should buy player like eriksen or matic so Bruno can move higher Mainoo not too good at control tempo and long pass
Maurizio Sarri is surely the most positional one.
1:41 it's pep Guardiola
Antonio Conte
Francesco Farioli or Roberto de Zerbi
Atalanta manager gasperini
Maybe De Zerbi
Claudio Ranieri
The italian manager is Enzo Maresca!
I'll go Maresca
Conte. Positional
Man United needs to go down to the second league and then to rise like a Phoenix. Or it can be 20 years playing like a 3rd league team, lead by thousands of tv, youtube and press ignorants, with the best coaches and best players, during 30 years. Or just to hire more one thousand coaches and in the end to prey by a miracle!
Maresca?
Maurizio Sarri or Spalleti
Who is more positional? Maybe Sarri?
Nooo. De Zerbi, of course he is
I think the manager is speletti because he like to Dominate the opponent
Semion inzaghi?
Maurizio Sarri
Gasperini
De Zerbi?
Inzaghi he's Italian 🇮🇹
Allegri or RBZ, feels like.
Gianpiero Gasperini???
It’s Inzaghi
United should’ve hired you, what’s the worst that can happen
Conte?
Maurizio Sarri
1:49
Maresca or de Zerbi
what makes you think he wants to implement the exact same tactics to the brink as he did at sporting
Because Amorim said he is
Because he said so, duuuh!
Farioli, Ajax
Cante is the coach
Its giasperini
Thiago Motta
Facts your portugal tactics wont work in the Prem when the match is faster
The Italian Manager is inzaghi
Simone inzaghi
Conte no?
It’s motta isn’t it