@@dani4157 my nan drives her car harder then those supposed stock internal fa20s they are just chasing the dyno numbers, try put your foot down and drive it hard and it blows. If you have seen a 450 hp 86 with stock internals I highly doubt the thing still works
still I love the Toyota, it is more reliable car you can get in the market. And plus, if you want more speed. Get the Toyota Supra 2018 (900+ horsepower).
+Ryan Clayton over the limit by 20 km/h in Aus and they will impound your car for a month and you will lose your licence for another fortnight after that. Break traction.....You are up for capital punishment, most likely lethal injection or a good ol' fashion hanging. Police's number 1 target in Aus is anybody with a slightly modified or fast car. Victoria is the worst, not too sure how it differs in SA.
patto505 Just because the car's got SA plates, doesn't mean it takes place in SA. But everything else in your comment is absolutely, 100% correct: police paint enthusiasts and hoons/ricers as one and the same. Which makes people who want to/have already modified their cars really nerve racking and difficult. In QLD, you actually have to have your car engineered and stamped with a blue-plate, saying your car is safe to use on the road.
True, the landscape looked like SA as well, though I am boring and haven't left Vic for quite some years so I am probably wrong. forget Nanny state lol, we are in the Nanny country haha.
powerful... a turbo on 6psi would of made 190kw@wheels didnt need both lol Street fx made over 250kw+ with with twin charge on lowest psi turbo would go
Jimmi_Riddles What do you mean quite comfortably? Dose the car become more reliable. My Stock car loses about 5% hp on a hot day 100% stock. Heat soak has to be at the very least a problem that has to be dealt with.
i'm talking stock injectors and internals and no issues after 3 years. intercooler takes the heat soak issue out a fair bit even in the Australian summer
Hold on a minute! Doesn't a decent turbo/supercharger kit on its own add 100 hp and torque? The way this is done it seems redundant to have both at the same time
Superchargers work best on the low RPS while turbos work best on the high RPMs. You can use both to balance out your torque and hp curves. Get good top end and low end.
Ardzye I thought about it and your comment makes no sense lol. They added a fuckload of weight for like 50 extra hp. Stock nUmbers from otHer cars aren’t really relevant
Michael McDiarmid do you really think running both options for FI would do much? It’s inefficient on almost any build. I’m talking about if you just took the turbo or supercharger off you could easily tune it near 300hp. Seen them a million times.
Have the tuner disable auto blimp and don't use or buy a puck clutch. Very little people know but ACT makes a clutch rated for 347 ft/lbs of torque "SB7-XTSS". Don't buy a pro-light flywheel if you don't want clutch rattle. Don't lower a street car if you don't like a ruffer ride. Over all why do Aussies keep twin charging the GT86's ? lol
Subaru wants you to do this shit to their cars... The WRX STi was a bit harder to customize, so they gave us a balanced BRZ, they want you to twin charge, they want the intake changed, they wanna see how well you can boost their name.
MRT that will cost you so much just for the 60+kw .... theres a guy in australia makes his own products an has a 350wkw SC/T set up on a stock block ;)
Hey guys, in a short while I'll graduate high school.. My promised me a toyota gt86, but i need your opinion on something because he said that he'll let me choose, so he doesn't mind if it's normal gt, gts or trd version. I want a car with a turbo-charger and that could handle modifications. The reason I say this is because when i started looking at the Scion FR-S I liked it and was sure that it's the one, but then I saw commments about how people owned that car and when the modify it to 300hp and over, something either breaks, bends or needs fixing. So, now I'm really confused... Any advice??
my advice. do proper research. there is a lot of misinformation about these cars out there. everyome who hasnt built one swears up amd down that if you push the motor it will break. ive been pushing 15 lbs of boost through the completely stock motor for over a year. last time we had it on the dyno it put down 350 at the wheels on 12 pounds. we havent been back to the dyno sense increasing the boost again but its safe to say it probably at about 370-380. in all the time we have been running it boosted we havent had a single reliability issue. if you build it right the first time you wont have to fix things that break.
I have seen a twin charged AE86 that put down 350hp. Average superchargers for the fa20 puts down around 230-260hp and most turbo kits are about the same so combined with a good tune should get you pretty close to 350 conservatively but it's all speculation
"You'll have to be careful when it gets hot out because it'll shoot flames" You know how many people dream of their car doing that?! Lmao. Obviously not a car guy.
twin charged and makes 250 wheel... waste of time. waste of what could have been a sweet car. if all you wanted was 250 wheel you could habe gone with a smaller EFR turbo made that power with little to no lag. you could have gone with a twin screw blower and made that power and had all of your tourque by 3000 rpm. if all you made was 250 wheel then you wasted all that effort making an overly complex build that by the nature of its complexity is les reliable and harder to tune. ap racing breaks? a pucked clutch? on a car with 250 wheel? you could have left the clutch and breaks stock at that power level. my stock block fa20 with rotrex centrifugal blower makes over 350 wheel and kicks you in the ass from 2000 to red line. twin charging for 250 wheel is so pointless its almost samefull and insulting to the 86 community and all the quality performance shops building real performance 86s
Hi can u explain twin screw blower? Do you mean a supercharger? Which gives the powet at earlier revs? Ive seen a vid where supercharger alone gave extra 90 kw but this is only 60? Why? Can u plz explain to an amateur like me as i am buying this car n want to know what i should beef it up with..
+Evan Gonzalez wtf are you talking about? The car is still going to be sold in the U.S. just not as a scion, it'll be sold as the Toyota 86. Also on the scion FR-S alot of the features you get on the GT86 you don't get on the FR-S, instead of HIDs you get halogens, you get a very basic head unit, interior has a cloth interior and theres no parking sensors etc.
851995STARGATE wtf are you talking about? I never said it wasn't going to be sold in the US anymore. All I was saying is that it is essentially the same vehicle but called a GT86 outside of the US. It doesn't matter what features you get on it, its the same car.
Looks good... too bad engine is so frail you can't make any meaningful power. On an N54... you upgrade the turbo and you got 700whp...that's ludicrous.
Philip Olson In Australia we do not use horsepower we use kilowatts. 1 Kilowatt = 1.3410220924 Horsepower. I live in Australia and just found this out today lol. Its stupid we should just use HP like everyone else.
It's on a stock engine. If they lowered the compression ratio it would allow them to run at a higher psi and make more power. With stronger rods and bigger injectors you have even more to work with. Point is they tuned it on the safe side because it's a stock engine.
critter1171 and practically every other award its possible for a car to get. People might not like them, and they have their compromises like any car but for the designed purpose they are the top of the tree
This car is garbage. Scion, and Subaru version of this car are as well. For a car with this sports look to it, 200hp and 136 pounds of torque is just simply a turn off. Interior is cheap and out dated. Toyotas don't appeal to me. They thought it wah
The gt-86 wasn't made to be a muscle car or have loads of power, it's a very fast cornering and really fun to drive car. Even with its na 2.0 it's so easy to whip out the back end. That's why their not trying to compete with mustang gt's and 370's etc
that green video filter at the beginning and end is bloody distracting. Please don't use it again.
"Toyoter"
Supercharger and turbocharger and only 180kws hahah that's MRT tune for ya.
Xd true
Could be on stock internals tho
@@tay_landdI think you're right, fully built fa20's with forced induction can get over 400hp.
@@dani4157 no they can't.
@@dani4157 my nan drives her car harder then those supposed stock internal fa20s they are just chasing the dyno numbers, try put your foot down and drive it hard and it blows. If you have seen a 450 hp 86 with stock internals I highly doubt the thing still works
Doesn't even sound like the original engine, I still love the Boxer rumbling notes when you give it some revs.
187 kw = 250 hp
Subaru WXR comes with the same 86*86 flat 4 like the BZR but with a turbo attached and it makes 268hp and 258lb-ft of torque...
But is it at the wheels?
+Flying Bigfoot Definitely not at the wheels, jackson racing superchargers for the FR-S put 280 at the crank on conservative tunes.
if Toyota built a turbo model . it would cost 41k
just put on a bolt on Vortech supercharger and boom 300hp 315nm
still I love the Toyota, it is more reliable car you can get in the market. And plus, if you want more speed. Get the Toyota Supra 2018 (900+ horsepower).
Woaaaaa not 900HP, It's supposed to be sold between 40 and 70k$...so probably over 400HP maybe even more
lefty that thinks big business can afford to build a supra with 900 HP and sell it for 80k dreaming
look at how powerful this car is isnt it cool!? lets show it off by driving in back roads really slowly!!
+Ryan Clayton over the limit by 20 km/h in Aus and they will impound your car for a month and you will lose your licence for another fortnight after that. Break traction.....You are up for capital punishment, most likely lethal injection or a good ol' fashion hanging. Police's number 1 target in Aus is anybody with a slightly modified or fast car. Victoria is the worst, not too sure how it differs in SA.
patto505 Just because the car's got SA plates, doesn't mean it takes place in SA. But everything else in your comment is absolutely, 100% correct: police paint enthusiasts and hoons/ricers as one and the same. Which makes people who want to/have already modified their cars really nerve racking and difficult. In QLD, you actually have to have your car engineered and stamped with a blue-plate, saying your car is safe to use on the road.
True, the landscape looked like SA as well, though I am boring and haven't left Vic for quite some years so I am probably wrong. forget Nanny state lol, we are in the Nanny country haha.
powerful... a turbo on 6psi would of made 190kw@wheels didnt need both lol Street fx made over 250kw+ with with twin charge on lowest psi turbo would go
that was filmed in Sydney near the northern beaches. Very bad roads most of it they were on.
orange pin stripes Nooooo!
Seems like a ton of work for 80 hp. I will stick with the stock car.
fatboy19831 avo turbo kits are seeing 200rwkw on stage 2 quiet comfortably
Jimmi_Riddles What do you mean quite comfortably? Dose the car become more reliable. My Stock car loses about 5% hp on a hot day 100% stock. Heat soak has to be at the very least a problem that has to be dealt with.
i'm talking stock injectors and internals and no issues after 3 years. intercooler takes the heat soak issue out a fair bit even in the Australian summer
Jimmi_Riddles Every turbo , Supercharger on you tube has heat problems. Even the 450 hp Crawford BRZ.
Allot of problems too maintain the car running with turbo , i will stick to all motor ;)
It looks like it wants to be a One:1
Can we see under the hood????
Shux lol I want one of these!! One day haha...one day.
:)
better to put wrx engine and driveline in it if it can be done
Hold on a minute! Doesn't a decent turbo/supercharger kit on its own add 100 hp and torque? The way this is done it seems redundant to have both at the same time
Superchargers work best on the low RPS while turbos work best on the high RPMs. You can use both to balance out your torque and hp curves. Get good top end and low end.
This is why you get a HARROP supercharger
...that's just 250 hp...with a supercharger AND turbo...weak.
I don't think they upgraded other components.
well think about it. how much power is a stock wrx pushing? not much over 250. stock GTI's? not much over 200..
Ardzye I thought about it and your comment makes no sense lol. They added a fuckload of weight for like 50 extra hp. Stock nUmbers from otHer cars aren’t really relevant
Michael McDiarmid do you really think running both options for FI would do much? It’s inefficient on almost any build. I’m talking about if you just took the turbo or supercharger off you could easily tune it near 300hp. Seen them a million times.
You can get 280bhp from just a supercharger without changing anything in the engine,he must have his figures wrong 😂
Have the tuner disable auto blimp and don't use or buy a puck clutch. Very little people know but ACT makes a clutch rated for 347 ft/lbs of torque "SB7-XTSS".
Don't buy a pro-light flywheel if you don't want clutch rattle.
Don't lower a street car if you don't like a ruffer ride.
Over all why do Aussies keep twin charging the GT86's ? lol
we reproduce turbochargers with best pricing.
Hot lava!!!!!!woot woot!!!😤
Get it on the race track so we can see its real performance.
What a lemon, the Harrop kills this with half the drama and none of "I think I am cool" rubbish and drone this stuff up has.
Where would i be able to buy the Toyota Gt86 turbochargered ?
that thing is fast just trying to go slow
what's faster? the superchared or the turbo charged?
all this tuning comes with a price, the little engine has to work a lot harder which means it will die faster...
Those engines are strong as hell. What are you talking about! You obviously don't know shit!
they are strong as long as they are stock, start modifying them and the risk of engine faliure or leakages will increase alot.
Wrx have the same motor turbod stock from 20 years ago n they still going today. They handle turbos fine
Subaru wants you to do this shit to their cars... The WRX STi was a bit harder to customize, so they gave us a balanced BRZ, they want you to twin charge, they want the intake changed, they wanna see how well you can boost their name.
I want two
sweet time to import to US..
No need. It's sold under the brand scion add the frs in the USA.
Soooo could someone tell me how much Horse power that is please?
To sum it up looks fast isn't fast all bark no bite. chihuahua mentality
MRT that will cost you so much just for the 60+kw .... theres a guy in australia makes his own products an has a 350wkw SC/T set up on a stock block ;)
torque bro torque
so....turbo or supercharger??
...both
It's called a Twin Charger. Not very common from what I've seen irl
whats the power to weight ratio?
Can someone tell me how much horse it makes
Hey guys, in a short while I'll graduate high school.. My promised me a toyota gt86, but i need your opinion on something because he said that he'll let me choose, so he doesn't mind if it's normal gt, gts or trd version. I want a car with a turbo-charger and that could handle modifications. The reason I say this is because when i started looking at the Scion FR-S I liked it and was sure that it's the one, but then I saw commments about how people owned that car and when the modify it to 300hp and over, something either breaks, bends or needs fixing. So, now I'm really confused...
Any advice??
my advice. do proper research. there is a lot of misinformation about these cars out there. everyome who hasnt built one swears up amd down that if you push the motor it will break. ive been pushing 15 lbs of boost through the completely stock motor for over a year. last time we had it on the dyno it put down 350 at the wheels on 12 pounds. we havent been back to the dyno sense increasing the boost again but its safe to say it probably at about 370-380. in all the time we have been running it boosted we havent had a single reliability issue. if you build it right the first time you wont have to fix things that break.
anyone have specs for this vehicle... Im assuming a turbo and a supercharger is producing more than 300hp
I have seen a twin charged AE86 that put down 350hp. Average superchargers for the fa20 puts down around 230-260hp and most turbo kits are about the same so combined with a good tune should get you pretty close to 350 conservatively but it's all speculation
"You'll have to be careful when it gets hot out because it'll shoot flames" You know how many people dream of their car doing that?! Lmao. Obviously not a car guy.
+Andrew Fallenbaum You obviously don't realise how extreme our fire danger season gets in Australia
Looks like you don't understand that nearly everything tries to kill you in Australia.
Look at a dry bush the wrong way and you might cause a major fire that kills hundreds of little Joeys in the hot months of Australia.
Id rather take an audi tt quattro and remove the front drive! Talk about fun!
I was thinking of doing that with a S5. How hard would it be and what is the consequences?
All you have to do is remove the drive axle to the front wheels. Im pretty sure it will void every warranty on the car tho! Haha.
twin charged and makes 250 wheel... waste of time. waste of what could have been a sweet car. if all you wanted was 250 wheel you could habe gone with a smaller EFR turbo made that power with little to no lag. you could have gone with a twin screw blower and made that power and had all of your tourque by 3000 rpm. if all you made was 250 wheel then you wasted all that effort making an overly complex build that by the nature of its complexity is les reliable and harder to tune. ap racing breaks? a pucked clutch? on a car with 250 wheel? you could have left the clutch and breaks stock at that power level. my stock block fa20 with rotrex centrifugal blower makes over 350 wheel and kicks you in the ass from 2000 to red line. twin charging for 250 wheel is so pointless its almost samefull and insulting to the 86 community and all the quality performance shops building real performance 86s
+OLDKMT What's worse is the non intercooled sprintex makes only 10 hp to the wheel less than that for much cheaper
Hi can u explain twin screw blower? Do you mean a supercharger? Which gives the powet at earlier revs? Ive seen a vid where supercharger alone gave extra 90 kw but this is only 60? Why?
Can u plz explain to an amateur like me as i am buying this car n want to know what i should beef it up with..
OLDKMT well said i agree
Can we hope it's just a modest tune leaving some room to grow?
Are they even selling this to the Australian public? Or?
No it was privately made then publicised for advertising reasons -my take.
TRIGGMOTORSPORT bee gees
How is this different from the Scion FRS?
+Ristrella Conti It's branded differently outside of the US. Scion is no more as of later this year in the US as well.
+Evan Gonzalez wtf are you talking about? The car is still going to be sold in the U.S. just not as a scion, it'll be sold as the Toyota 86. Also on the scion FR-S alot of the features you get on the GT86 you don't get on the FR-S, instead of HIDs you get halogens, you get a very basic head unit, interior has a cloth interior and theres no parking sensors etc.
851995STARGATE wtf are you talking about? I never said it wasn't going to be sold in the US anymore. All I was saying is that it is essentially the same vehicle but called a GT86 outside of the US. It doesn't matter what features you get on it, its the same car.
Looks good... too bad engine is so frail you can't make any meaningful power. On an N54... you upgrade the turbo and you got 700whp...that's ludicrous.
The wheels on the supercharged/turbo one are AWFUL
what the hell is a kilowatt
Philip Olson In Australia we do not use horsepower we use kilowatts. 1 Kilowatt = 1.3410220924 Horsepower.
I live in Australia and just found this out today lol. Its stupid we should just use HP like everyone else.
MegaMilkshakeLive There are multiple horsepower units... I believe the Kilowatt unit is more universal and therefore easier to compare worldwide.
Philip Olson just divide the kilowatt figure by 0.746 and you'll get your Horse Power reading
twincharged and only 63kw? a Golf GTI makes that extra with just a remap.
the problems the engines massively high compression ratio (wouldn't be very reliable)
It's on a stock engine. If they lowered the compression ratio it would allow them to run at a higher psi and make more power. With stronger rods and bigger injectors you have even more to work with. Point is they tuned it on the safe side because it's a stock engine.
I think the host moved to car advice.
Bad jokes bro, you sound like you are not a fan of driving at all.
Not a fan of the looks...Looked better stock...
Bad vid quality.....hurts my eyes, can’t watch that...too many short scenes bolted together!!
the rims look crap, my foz turbo still got more torque
those are some pretty shitty roads you guys are filming on. Wasn't there any place with smoother pavement?
find a new camera operator
did the guy say TATA?
ha
plz get rid of the gay stripes
Its a over rated car! RS MK2 any day……
Over rated to the point that it won car of the year.
critter1171 and practically every other award its possible for a car to get. People might not like them, and they have their compromises like any car but for the designed purpose they are the top of the tree
turbocharged POS
nxtime show under the hood. dislike
Meh
What a junker, why don't these companies buy WRX engines and dump them in to make a product people would be confident in buying.
stock block almost 400wkw possible with this motor. ive never seen an sti have 400wkw on stock block.
An copys a bit of an evo X front, lol.
because it costs more money lefty
This car is garbage. Scion, and Subaru version of this car are as well. For a car with this sports look to it, 200hp and 136 pounds of torque is just simply a turn off. Interior is cheap and out dated. Toyotas don't appeal to me. They thought it wah
The gt-86 wasn't made to be a muscle car or have loads of power, it's a very fast cornering and really fun to drive car. Even with its na 2.0 it's so easy to whip out the back end. That's why their not trying to compete with mustang gt's and 370's etc
Douchenozzle
Because there reliable
And slow as hell
+Chiderah Obasi not made for straight-line performance. Made for handling and fun