Chopin-Godowsky - The Complete Etudes - M.-A. Hamelin [SHEET-MUSIC]

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  • @alexmolt
    @alexmolt  3 года назад +59

    00:07 - No.1 (Op.10-1) 1st version- C major
    02:13 - No.2 (Op.10-1) 2nd version- D flat major (left hand)
    04:54 - No.3 (Op.10-2) 1st version- A minor (left hand)
    06:41 - No.4 (Op.10-2) 2nd version- A minor ('Ignis fatuus')
    08:39 - No.5 (Op.10-3) D flat major (left hand)
    13:25 - No.6 (Op.10-4) C sharp minor (left hand)
    16:14 - No.7 (Op.10-5) 1st version- G flat major
    17:51 - No.8 (Op.10-5) 2nd version- C major
    19:42 - No.9 (Op.10-5) 3rd version- A minor ('Tarantella')
    22:12 - No.10 (Op.10-5) 4th version- A major ('Capriccio')
    24:19 - No.11 (Op.10-5) 5th version- G flat major
    26:16 - No.12 (Op.10-5) 6th version- G flat major
    28:06 - No.12a (Op.10-5) 7th version- G flat major (left hand)
    30:26 - No.13 (Op.10-6) E flat minor (left hand)
    34:11 - No.14 (Op.10-7) 1st version- C major ('Toccata')
    35:59 - No.15 (Op.10-7) 2nd version- G flat major ('Nocturne')
    38:54 - No.15a (Op.10-7) 3rd version- E flat major (left hand)
    41:19 - No.16 (Op.10-8) 1st version- F major
    44:32 - No.16a (Op.10-8) 2nd version- G flat major (left hand)
    48:11 - No.17 (Op.10-9) 1st version- C sharp minor
    50:53 - No.18 (Op.10-9) 2nd version- F minor (Imitation of Op.25-2)
    53:33 - No.18a (Op.10-9) 3rd version- F sharp minor (left hand)
    58:03 - No.19 (Op.10-10) 1st version- D major
    1:01:58 - No.20 (Op.10-10) 2nd version- A flat major (left hand)
    1:05:14 - No.21 (Op.10-11) A major (left hand)
    1:08:35 - No.22 (Op.10-12) C sharp minor (left hand)
    1:11:49 - No.23 (Op.25-1) 1st version- A flat major (left hand)
    1:14:55 - No.24 (Op.25-1) 2nd version- A flat major (like a piece for 4 hands)
    1:17:49 - No. 25 (Op. 25-1) 3rd version- A flat major
    1:20:39 - No. 26 (Op. 25-2) 1st version- F minor
    1:22:21 - No. 27 (Op. 25-2) 2nd version- F minor ('Waltz')
    1:24:31 - No. 28 (Op. 25,2) 3rd version - A- F minor
    1:27:09 - No. 28 (Op. 25-2) 3rd version - B- F minor
    1:30:12 - No. 28a (Op. 25-2) 4th version- F sharp minor (left hand)
    1:32:53 - No. 29 (Op. 25-3) 1st version- F major
    1:35:18 - No. 30 (Op. 25-3) 2nd version- F major (left hand)
    1:37:50 - No. 31 (Op. 25-4) 1st version- A minor (left hand)
    1:40:18 - No. 32 (Op. 25-4) 2nd version- F minor ('Polonaise')
    1:46:20 - No. 33 (Op. 25-5) 1st version- E minor
    1:50:08 - No. 34 (Op. 25-5) 2nd version- C sharp minor ('Mazurka')
    1:53:43 - No. 35 (Op. 25-5) 3rd version- B flat minor (left hand)
    1:58:12 - No. 36 (Op. 25-6) G sharp minor
    2:00:24 - No. 38 (Op. 25-8) D flat major
    2:01:55- No. 39 (Op. 25-9) 1st version- G flat major
    2:02:57 - No. 40 (Op. 25-9) 2nd version- G flat major (left hand)
    2:04:31 - No. 41 (Op. 25-10) B minor (left hand)
    2:09:09 - No. 42 (Op. 25-11) A minor
    2:13:36- No. 43 (Op. 25-12) C sharp minor (left hand)
    2:16:58 - No. 44 (Méth. M-F No. 1) F minor (left hand)
    2:18:48 - No. 45 (Méth. M-F No. 2) 1st version- E major
    2:22:56 - No. 45a (Méth. M-F No. 2) 2nd version- D flat major (left hand)
    2:25:06 - No. 46 (Méth. M-F No. 3) G major ('Menuetto')
    2:28:21 - No. 47 (Op. 10-5 and Op. 25-9) G flat major ('Badinage', 2 studies combined)
    2:29:55 - No. 48 (Op. 10-11 and Op. 25-3) F major (2 studies combined)

  • @dot8209
    @dot8209 2 года назад +161

    Godowsky was certainly ahead of his time... he knew pianists would want their right hand for scrolling on their phone while playing Chopin etudes.

    • @bsdkflh
      @bsdkflh Год назад +2

      I know right, I mean I gotta do my sudoku *sometime*, right?

  • @peter5.056
    @peter5.056 10 месяцев назад +36

    This is a terrifying level of virtuosity.

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 3 месяца назад +1

      and an even scarier level of musicality

    • @peter5.056
      @peter5.056 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Varooooooom I honestly believe that Liszt himself would gasp upon hearing this. (Chopin would have stormed out of the room, muttering obscenities to himself, lol...)

  • @HenryJonesVictor
    @HenryJonesVictor 2 года назад +52

    "This passage would sound better in octaves, provided no retardation results from the strain on the wrist" - "The pianist must show no sign of fatigue in the coda"
    holy shit these footnotes are hilarious. Damn how I wish we had some good recordings of Godowsky's playing

    • @aidanm.1683
      @aidanm.1683 2 года назад +1

      Where are those two footnites

    • @padraicfanning7055
      @padraicfanning7055 2 года назад +2

      @@aidanm.1683 very first study, close to the recap

    • @markswanson549
      @markswanson549 2 года назад +2

      I’m glad he included the fingering. Makes it so much easier lol! #sarcasm

    • @andrewzhang8512
      @andrewzhang8512 Год назад +1

      wtf bruh superhuman moment

    • @imdarealani
      @imdarealani Год назад

      Here after Caleb Hu did it (with video)!

  • @kristianjohansson8912
    @kristianjohansson8912 2 года назад +56

    If you listen to this on YT you should go and buy the album as well. His brilliant playing makes it seem that he just breezes through it, but he has worked hard to reach this extreme level of perfection. The man deserves the income. He is a genius.

    • @daviddickey370
      @daviddickey370 Год назад +2

      Absolutely agree: I have had the cd's since they came out, but it's so great to have the sheet music too.

  • @f1f1s
    @f1f1s 3 года назад +38

    There is a reason why Nos. 44- onwards have ‘Méth.’ in their title. Meth. Meth is the only thing that can keep the pianist alive after 48 Godowsky’s transcriptions of Chopin’s Études.
    On a serious note, I am so much happier that Hamelin’s recording has been published online and made available to the wide public...

  • @AsrielKujo
    @AsrielKujo 2 года назад +56

    There is no other performer of this set outside of Maestro Hamelin, nobody plays and nobody will ever play these like him. Truly a blessing to have him on this earth and a blessing to our ears to be able to listen to this for free on RUclips, thanks so much for the effort of making this video, i truly appreciate it, every minute you spent working on this was worth it!

    • @gerry30
      @gerry30 Год назад +8

      I don't disagree with you but I really wish Godowsky himself had recorded at least some of them. Josef Hoffman said that when Godowsky was comfortable and relaxed, nobody could play like him. Coming from Hoffman, I can't imagine what that sounded like.

    • @Tamadehenzhan
      @Tamadehenzhan Год назад +3

      @@gerry30 Konstantin Scherbakov spielte auch sehr gut

    • @Tamadehenzhan
      @Tamadehenzhan Год назад

      Konstantin Scherbakov ist auch serh gut

    • @gerry30
      @gerry30 Год назад

      @@Tamadehenzhan Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into his playing some more. I saw that he recorded all of Godowsky's works. I enjoy Godowsky's original works as well as his transcriptions.

    • @Tamadehenzhan
      @Tamadehenzhan Год назад +1

      @@gerry30 Oh, du hast einen guten Geschmack

  • @isthatajojoreference149
    @isthatajojoreference149 3 года назад +68

    How does one learn this let alone record it with such perfection? Truly a remarkable pianist of the highest caliber.

    • @gabriel_kyne
      @gabriel_kyne 3 года назад +22

      Recordings (including classical recordings, believe it or not!) are highly edited. That's how you get something like this with zero mistakes

    • @tackontitan
      @tackontitan 3 года назад +9

      Practice, practice, practice.

    • @carrietide
      @carrietide 3 года назад

      Agreed

    • @pianobirb0716
      @pianobirb0716 2 года назад +11

      @@gabriel_kyne Mr. Hamelin plays these etudes live as well, and they are often impeccable. Yes there may be editing done, but not to a scale so that its drastically different from the original, otherwise Mr. Hamelin wouldn't be able to perform these in public!

    • @sqrti8825
      @sqrti8825 2 года назад

      @@gabriel_kyne Where?

  • @tomekkobialka
    @tomekkobialka Год назад +8

    This video should be transmitted into outer space to show any aliens out there that humanity isn't all that bad...
    These are all great but I think I love No.45 the most.
    Also that harmonic "turn" at 10:01...just beautiful.

  • @TheExarion
    @TheExarion 3 года назад +13

    16:05 1:08:35 Hamelin flexing that handspan (literally)

  • @avb20540
    @avb20540 3 года назад +92

    I want to see Hamelin unleash this at the Chopin competitions

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 2 года назад +12

      biggest flex in history

    • @JamesSmith-mw7ps
      @JamesSmith-mw7ps 2 года назад +9

      In some sense Chopin’s etudes are better for competitions. They are a lot less cluttered, which can show off finger brillance and at the same time expose problems that would otherwise be hidden by Godowsky’s thick texture.
      And I think they are better music, not to belittle Godowsky’s contributions to music and technique.

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 2 года назад +15

      @@JamesSmith-mw7ps i think it was meant to be more like a flex than a competition itself, would be great to see and exibition just so he could flex on the participants lmao

    • @AsrielKujo
      @AsrielKujo 2 года назад +6

      @@tommasozucol4160 you're very nice to this kid who doesn't know what he's talking about, but still, all of this music is just not only so much harder technically and musically, but for more advanced listeners (apparently not the jury of chopin competitions) it's much more pleasing

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 2 года назад +2

      @@AsrielKujo I agree, probably the thing that makes them sound boring is probably the fact there are many different versions for a single etude and listening to them all in order might result boring... But the truth is that if you listen to them one by one, they are beautiful pieces, with much more pathos than the original ones!

  • @itamarabramson5603
    @itamarabramson5603 3 года назад +13

    How is it possible that only 3 people are watching this

    • @josswindsor8288
      @josswindsor8288 3 года назад

      Virtuoso prodigioso brillante veloz espectacular...variantes del célebre num 1

  • @JamesSmith-mw7ps
    @JamesSmith-mw7ps 2 года назад +14

    This is such a monumental work in piano technique (and music). The markings are so detailed, and he often provides 2 sets of fingerings. These features combined with the multiple studies on the same Chopin etude really open our eyes to the technical and musical mind of Godowsky, one of the greatest pianist and arranger of all time.
    If I had to pick only one etude set to learn from, this would be the one. It’s less physical than Chopin’s original as the tempo requirements are a lot more lenient, but they are much more complicated musically and technically. I would say these studies are incredibly practical as well. Chopin’s technique is at the core of Romantic piano technique, and Godowsky has transferred most of it directly onto the left hand. Godowsky’s right hand is more free: they offer technical hurdles for pianists to overcome (kind of like Liszt etudes).

  • @philinh9169
    @philinh9169 8 месяцев назад +2

    Very Impressive how clean the left hand versions are! Especially how the polyphonic voicing is maintained and crystallized

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 3 года назад +26

    Quick people, save this somewhere on your HD. Hyperion Records is famous for not wanting to have any form of their proprieties floating around on RUclips and this will get a copyright strike in no time.

    • @grantgayle9212
      @grantgayle9212 3 года назад +4

      Right??? I was very shocked to see this content on YT.

    • @BjornHegstad
      @BjornHegstad 3 года назад +8

      Or pay to buy a recording to support their work.

    • @davidxpopescu
      @davidxpopescu 2 года назад +2

      Still being able to listen after 1 year tho 😅

    • @Isegawa2001
      @Isegawa2001 2 года назад

      @@BjornHegstad I'd rather pirate

    • @MiklosVeszpremi
      @MiklosVeszpremi Год назад +2

      Or you just pay Hyperion a few bucks so they keep being able to finance such awesome recordings? 🧐

  • @notmytempo464
    @notmytempo464 3 года назад +18

    Fantastic upload thank you! I bought this album a while back, Mr Hamelin really rasied the bar of pianistic artistry and virtuosity with it. A true musical gem of our time!

  • @pacojonesvaior9212
    @pacojonesvaior9212 4 месяца назад

    Hamelim… Genious.. Virtuoso.. Humble! ❤❤

  • @веравасильева-ы3м9с

    I love you Marc Andre....

  • @MrAchu1000
    @MrAchu1000 3 года назад +5

    waterfall etude in d flat major is fantastic!

  • @tomyoarrete3060
    @tomyoarrete3060 3 года назад +8

    Juste incroyable, quel travail pour n'en maîtriser qu'une seule déjà !!

  • @WesCoastPiano
    @WesCoastPiano 3 года назад +5

    Superb astounding collection

  • @sebastianbrix
    @sebastianbrix 3 года назад +5

    A TRULY titanic upload, thank you so much ALEX MOLT!

  • @Dtiaah
    @Dtiaah Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for this post. He is a gigantic talent combined with being a kind and genuine person, a rarity to be admired and cherished. Like these performances and, I suspect, you. Again, thank you.

  • @modernetude5750
    @modernetude5750 Год назад +2

    Thank you very much for sharing this. I didn't expect this etude to be satisfying to hear like this. I think that Hamelin has reached a transcendental level.

  • @christopherczajasager9030
    @christopherczajasager9030 3 года назад +3

    AWESOME playing

  • @illogicmath
    @illogicmath 3 года назад +9

    This is insane. The revolutionary study played only with the left hand.

    • @pxyz7
      @pxyz7 2 года назад

      I wouldn't have believed it, and then I saw it.

  • @dd8436
    @dd8436 Год назад

    I've been listening to this for 2 years and every time I listen to it I'm surprised how it survived from Hyperion... Anyway thanks for the upload :)

  • @waynesmith6784
    @waynesmith6784 3 года назад +3

    Thank you, Godowsky playing these great pieces ha made my evening.

    • @JuNoKun1
      @JuNoKun1 3 года назад +5

      You understand this is not Godowsky playing, right?

    • @waynesmith6784
      @waynesmith6784 3 года назад +2

      Yes , meant these great Godowsky pieces! I m not good at anything digital! I do love Godowsky playing tho.

  • @Nonconform14
    @Nonconform14 6 месяцев назад

    best Pianist this time

  • @Korzhovkomposer
    @Korzhovkomposer Год назад

    Шикарно)

  • @paolofranceschi6874
    @paolofranceschi6874 Год назад

    Amazing. Even more... ❤

  • @jackcurley1591
    @jackcurley1591 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the vid!!! Hope it stays up

  • @JamesSmith-mw7ps
    @JamesSmith-mw7ps 2 года назад +4

    I am very thankful for the fact that someone was able to record this at such a high level, but I feel like there are untapped musical potential in these studies.
    Hamelin’s playing is very smooth and flowery, but I think these pieces would sound even better with stricter tempo and more definition (like Pollini’s Chopin etudes).

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 2 года назад +1

      You should hear Robert Henry’s performances available on RUclips

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak Год назад

    Some of these are really insane and incredibly taxing.

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 2 года назад

    Godowsky is working the left hand to the absolute ultimate.

  • @davidrds
    @davidrds 3 года назад

    This is insane! Really amazing.

  • @CaringCommentator
    @CaringCommentator Год назад

    no 34 1:50:05 may be one of my favourites for a solo program filler with a more relaxed atmosphere (obv. aside from 45 and .. )

  • @dd8436
    @dd8436 8 месяцев назад

    1:40:18 Polonaise
    1:50:08 Mazurka

  • @林柏辰-m7i
    @林柏辰-m7i 8 дней назад

    Crazily virtuosity

  • @dan_thepianoman4401
    @dan_thepianoman4401 3 года назад +4

    This is how I imagine chopin played them before writing them down

  • @angelobonacci461
    @angelobonacci461 Год назад

    Grandissimo virtuoso,ma ricordiamoci che il primo studio di chopin nonostante ci siano meno note che nella versione di godoski non è meno difficile perché comunque nella versione di chopin concentra di più il virtuosismo nella mano destra ed è più veloce e non c'è il cambio nelle estensioni rischiose ma devi allargare di continuo le dita..

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 2 года назад

    I really have no idea how to begin in approaching these exceedingly difficult etudes after the Appasionata !

  • @Varooooooom
    @Varooooooom 3 месяца назад

    2:16:58 the tempo he takes this at is wild

  • @michaelloew522
    @michaelloew522 Год назад

    bro wanted to practice his left hand by itself so that it was as good as his right hand

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 2 года назад

    As always fascinated that every pianist take nr1 Waterfalletyd so easily in right hands something giant ' liep ':intervall as that their right hand is round:'ball' as it use to be,these pieces becomes more difficult. Ballad scherzo pianoconsertos Chopins also what l can see leading in hardness,beauty(opinion is varieted

  • @adrianwright8685
    @adrianwright8685 2 года назад +1

    The technical difficulty is such that it's hardly surprising nobody else has ever attempted these as a complete set.

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 2 года назад +3

      Francesco Libetta has played the full set in concert, Carlo Grante has 2 full sets of studio recordings, Emanuele Delucchi has a studio recording of the full set, and David Stanhope has played all of them except the nouvelle/combination arrangements.
      EDIT: That being said, Hamelin probably still has the most stand-out performances.

    • @adrianwright8685
      @adrianwright8685 2 года назад +2

      @@Varooooooom Thanks for the information. There are so many top class pianists out there you wonder how they all manage to earn a living!

  • @RaptorT1V
    @RaptorT1V 3 года назад +2

    О даа, Шопен-Годовски !

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 3 года назад

    No sabía que los Estudios 😃 fuéran Hamelín.

  • @alexkim4636
    @alexkim4636 3 года назад

    💖💖💖💖🎵🎵🎵🎵💣👍😘😍

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 2 года назад

    Bravo Godofsky Hamelin in greatness such as Lisitsa even Chopin would be jelous

  • @universeforest5386
    @universeforest5386 3 года назад

    I feel @ No,48 is wonderful of op10-11 and op25-3.

  • @MS-wn3my
    @MS-wn3my 10 месяцев назад

    Не, оригинал в разы лучше. Тут какая-то мазня, мешанина из нот.
    А у Шопена, как у Моцарта, нот ровно столько, сколько нужно. Нет ни одной недостающей или одной лишней ноты !❤

    • @alexmolt
      @alexmolt  10 месяцев назад +2

      А мне нравится как оригинал, так и эта версия. Не стоит эту версию воспринимать как "замену" оригинальным. Я бы воспринимал, как "полёт фантазии на тему...", обрамлённый усложнённой технической/полифонической/ритмической/ "леворучной"/какой угодно задачей. Почему бы и нет? Создавая что-то "новое"из гениального "старого", композитор только восхваляет оригинал, но никак не пытается создать что-то "в разы лучше".
      А "мазню и мешанину из нот" не слышу, как раз благодаря гениальному пианисту Марку Андрэ Амлену. Запись вышла потрясающей. Даже только чисто с технической точки зрения, сам факт того, что он смог охватить весь цикл - уму непостижимо. Какой невероятный труд и талант...

  • @АлександрКлименко-э6ж

    ❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️

  • @violadamore2-bu2ch
    @violadamore2-bu2ch Год назад

    I can't read the music fast enough to listen !!!!!

  • @JZL2080
    @JZL2080 6 месяцев назад +1

    Godowsky expanded difficulty from Chopin, it is super virtuostic. Rare pianists play them.😂

    • @Paroles_et_Musique
      @Paroles_et_Musique 5 месяцев назад

      Actually the original etudes, at least the most difficult ones, are much harder than the Godowsky adds. Paradoxically.

  • @gentle_goy23432
    @gentle_goy23432 10 месяцев назад

    Hard

  • @danyjamous5986
    @danyjamous5986 3 года назад +2

    15:34 : so frustrating, all the build up vanishes

  • @타일꿀
    @타일꿀 2 года назад

    This is what must not exist on the earth!!!
    So dangerous to our mind!! But i love this so much:)

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 3 года назад +6

    It’s close to a superhuman pianism by Hamelin and worth listening for that. However I have always found this a rather boring thing musically. Basically just more notes and complexity.

    • @deadlysquad13
      @deadlysquad13 3 года назад +4

      With more notes and bigger complexity come new lovely voices) No. 25 with 4 voices for me is one of the best as it transforms Chopin`s work with more colors.
      Also some of the studies show etudes in a new light: more lyrical Op. 10 No. 1 - Godowsky`s No. 2, more dramatic Op. 25 No. 12 - Godowsky`s No. 43.

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 5 месяцев назад +1

    How good was Godowsky? Rachmaninov's daughter said her father thought Godowsky was some kind of technical God of the piano. BTW: if you would like some other examples of Godowsky's genius, check these out:
    ruclips.net/video/lDahvLh-460/видео.htmlsi=yJUPs8kFCVdUw0zd
    ruclips.net/video/f0nlJXooIVc/видео.htmlsi=_utExAvWiWduWzw3

  • @dreamsdreams9493
    @dreamsdreams9493 2 года назад

    Didn't Maestro Hamelin himself say that Ignis Fatuus is the hardest of the whole set??

  • @alexanderbayramov2626
    @alexanderbayramov2626 2 года назад +1

    Based Godowsky
    Based M.A.Hamelin
    Based alexmolt

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 года назад

    Quién es este extrañ

  • @alejandrotamiojr7128
    @alejandrotamiojr7128 3 года назад

    2:11:15

  • @Piratebreadstick
    @Piratebreadstick 3 года назад +2

    Jesus.

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 2 года назад +1

    The winter wind etude is a lot lot more difficult in this transcription than the original by Chopin.

    • @adrianwright8685
      @adrianwright8685 2 года назад +4

      These are not "transcriptions", they are complete re-workings of the originals and in almost every case they are technically much harder - that really was the main idea!

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 3 года назад

    Dubbel RH Waterfalletyd first thanks Godofsky, Chopin would be stunned, and imagine op25 nr6, winterwindetyd

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 3 года назад

    Revolutionary etyd with octavas in left hand Liszt and l did it. Almost easier as the usual and tempo wasn't bad it is Okey l say really

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 года назад

    Nadie sabe quién ese Hamelín. 😔

    • @alexmolt
      @alexmolt  2 года назад

      es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc-Andr%C3%A9_Hamelin

  • @redeemerofcasuality1722
    @redeemerofcasuality1722 3 года назад +1

    Next level shit right here

  • @타일꿀
    @타일꿀 2 года назад

    Godowsky is the most handsome man on thumbnail right??

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan Год назад +1

    Funny to realize that if one mastered Godowsky's etudes, then the actual Chopin etudes would be easy! lol

    • @alexmolt
      @alexmolt  Год назад

      I think... yes, and no. Fewer notes ≠ easier to play.

    • @Paroles_et_Musique
      @Paroles_et_Musique 5 месяцев назад

      @@alexmolt Exactly, the original are still harder, the Godowsky adds allow to cheat around. Harder to learn but easier to perform.

  • @akelofgren9468
    @akelofgren9468 3 года назад +1

    Chopin so lucky to be pure personal life in all forms and not pressed by others getting fake identity fake life in a time many makes competition in to be as stupid as possible

  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster 3 года назад

    Hyperion is going to nuke this video from orbit.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 2 года назад

      @Miraak They are generally the most aggressive label when it comes to uploads of their music. Honestly, it's a miracle that this one is still up.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 2 года назад +1

      @Miraak The score might be in the public domain (not sure about Godowsky though), but the recording of course isn't. I wouldn't call them rats, since it's their right to block people from listening to their records without paying, after all, Hamelin and the other Hyperion artists and engineers need to be paid for their work. But most labels choose to just simply monetize people's videos of their music, which allows them to make money off of it and people still to watch the videos. But Hyperion are extremely draconic about it, they also don't believe in music streaming which is why their recordings aren't on any platform like spotify, so whenever they see an upload of their products, they usually go apeshit and have it deleted immediately, which is a bit scummy in my opinion.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 2 года назад

      @Miraak Of course he is, just not allowed to upload recordings he made for the Hyperion label, since they have the rights to them. This video for example clearly violates Hyperion's copyright, since we're listening to the album for free instead of paying 30 bucks for their digital download. However, I personally still think the benefit of people watching these score videos, learning about the music for the first time and later possibly buying the recordings to get them in higher audio quality far outweighs the loss.

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 2 года назад +2

      I’m shocked it’s still up lol

    • @javascriptkiddie2718
      @javascriptkiddie2718 3 месяца назад

      @@SpaghettiToaster nobody buys music anymore. Get real.

  • @Lennythewinner
    @Lennythewinner Год назад

    Great exercises in how to wreck beautiful Chopin for the sake of having to prove that "anything anyone else can do, I can do better".

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 11 месяцев назад +1

      So you admit these are better than Chopin’s works…?

  • @barejon2733
    @barejon2733 Год назад +1

    cursed

  • @rravvia
    @rravvia 6 месяцев назад

    Frankendowsky's monsters. Horrible.

  • @kallehed6330
    @kallehed6330 3 года назад +2

    Man, Godowsky should have made more variation-form style pieces.
    edit: Man godowsky you can't just add more notes, just because you add 2 extra lines playing the same chords doesn't make the composition better, just try to say more with less
    edit 2: man, godowsky now you're literally just taking everything I love about Chopin and throwing it in the dumpster, why?
    edit 3: Ok, I get it, you're such a bad composer the only thing you can do is flip the right and left hands of Chopin etudes and call them "studies"
    edit 4: OK , you're left hand version of the octaves etude is actually a better version lol, I'll give you credit for this one, because that etude usually sucks to listen too

    • @Varooooooom
      @Varooooooom 3 года назад +20

      Dude… cringe. He’s not trying to make the studies better. He’s making his own versions of them with a focus on left hand technique. Also, he understood that less is more. There are MANY points where he could’ve simply beefed up the music with more notes if that’s really what he wanted to do. He was exploring different harmonies and thus exploring the Chopin etudes in new flavors. It doesn’t work for me all the time either, BUT HEY IF YOU WANNA LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL CHOPIN ETUDES, THERE’S A MILLION PERFORMANCES OF THEM THAT ARE PERFECTLY PLAIN AND UNTAMPERED WITH. The Chopin etudes are not “ruined” by these studies’ mere existence.
      If you can’t take the time to understand what Godowsky’s intentions were here, then stfu lmao.

    • @kallehed6330
      @kallehed6330 3 года назад +3

      @@Varooooooom based

  • @simeonbogdanov3010
    @simeonbogdanov3010 2 года назад +1

    Original Chopin is better

    • @collinm.4652
      @collinm.4652 2 года назад +8

      @Miraak stop comparing godowskys innovation with chopins, then maybe you’ll enjoy them a bit more.

    • @collinm.4652
      @collinm.4652 2 года назад +7

      @Miraak my point was that they are not meant to sound like Chopin. They are meant to extend on Chopins genius through counterpoint and different textures. Of course something written anything other than Chopin isn’t going to sound like Chopin lol. However you are not totally incorrect In disliking the music as music is subjective and not everyone likes what u like, there is nothing u can do about that. It’s quite detailed music if u understand it, all the stuff going on behind the scenes can make it easy to make it sound messy and I can totally see where u may not like it.

    • @composerjalen
      @composerjalen 2 года назад +3

      @Miraak Wow Godowsky sounds nothing like Chopin, that's crazy bro, great observation

    • @oritdrimer4354
      @oritdrimer4354 4 месяца назад

      No

  • @rravvia
    @rravvia 3 года назад +4

    I really hate these pieces.

    • @khalilmutallibov
      @khalilmutallibov 3 года назад +1

      why? because of their difficulty?

    • @rravvia
      @rravvia 3 года назад

      @@khalilmutallibov They after perfect in their original form. These arrangements, while amazing, mess with perfection.

    • @rravvia
      @rravvia 3 года назад +1

      @Brady Dill I still hate them.

    • @paulstrickler5684
      @paulstrickler5684 3 года назад +2

      Tom, stick to your guns - how you feel about Godowsky's work is just as valid as anyone else’s.

    • @rravvia
      @rravvia 3 года назад

      @@paulstrickler5684 Thanks.

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 3 года назад +2

    alot of times godowsky just adds a bunch of notes with no real meaning and they are just badly implemented tbh

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 3 года назад

      @Felis Skalkotris Sorabjitus use your ears

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 3 года назад +1

      @Dhruva Punde how the fuck do I show you examples or prove that? I just think he makes the music often times dissonant for no reason or makes a bunch of notes go really fast even though a single chord would suffice, the writer of these pieces is more of a pianist, not a composer

    • @dd8436
      @dd8436 3 года назад

      ㄴㄱㅁ

    • @dd8436
      @dd8436 3 года назад +1

      하나 집어서 예를 들어주라니까 말도못하고 인신공격만 하노 ㅋㅋ

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 3 года назад

      @Felis Skalkotris Sorabjitus was I speaking about his pieces or was I speaking about the chopin etudes in this video? The latter it is, so my point still stands that godowsky in these etudes adds unnecessary dissonances and lengthens chords into arpeggios or whatever else for no real purpose other than the feeling of complexity or difficulty

  • @Manx123
    @Manx123 Год назад

    Ugh. So many of these are messy, and most other recordings aren't much better. If Hamelin of all people couldn't make clean recordings of these, I'm led to believe that these pieces just aren't worth learning, since the are plenty of works, even virtuosic ones, that are immensely easier. Some of the most difficult works here, especially ones that do little more than transfer the difficulties from the right to the lend hand, aren't even effective showpieces, since the audience can't really perceived how monstrously more difficult it is to play what would otherwise be fairly difficult for the right hand on the left.

    • @Arctales21
      @Arctales21 Год назад +1

      I think you got it in you to record all of these.

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 Год назад +1

      @@Arctales21 is that supposed to be sarcasm?

    • @Arctales21
      @Arctales21 Год назад +1

      @@Manx123 No

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 Год назад +1

      @@Arctales21 Well, that's an ridiculous thing to seriously say. Some of the best pianists in the world have unsuccessfully tried these pieces, and I'm just some random RUclips commenter pointing this out.

    • @Arctales21
      @Arctales21 Год назад +1

      @@Manx123 not with that attitude

  • @wilh3lmmusic
    @wilh3lmmusic 2 года назад

    1:34:27