I just got fitted last night and switched from the 2016 AP1 to the T100 "s" and i'm so excited for them to come in the mail. The change was just unbelievable between the two. I'm a 4.5 handicap so I didn't really need such big irons like the AP1.
Good review Michael. Only thing I’d like to see is swing speed, that way we could see if the ball speed was up purely due to the club, or maybe you were able to swing it quicker for some reason 👍🏻
I played AP2s for a few years. Loved the feel and workabilty, but always felt about 1/2 club shorter. Switched to Mizuno this year and solved that, but these look like they've picked up a little yardage as well.
First one to do a comparison of thoese two irons. I hit a T100 the other day and it was too light compared to the MB/CB that I also hit. Hopefully that was a mistake by the bigbox store and they had grabbed a lighter fitting club.
Thanks for your review. Is it possible to compare the 620 CB to the T100? It seems like these two clubs are moving closer together. Both have the same weaker lofts (1° diff). The T100 now has the same top line as the 718 CB. The sole is now shaped similar for better turf interaction. The CB’s keep getting more forgiveness tech , similar to the AP2/T100. Would be interesting to compare the numbers, feel, etc. Thanks for your time.
Personally think the AP2 looks better. 620 cb and Mb look nice but think the mizuno mp 20 is where it’s at. Hope I’m not disappointed holding on for them
I'm planning on staying with the AP2. The 620CB look very nice but given the new release of irons, I may pick up a set of 718CB just because they'll be discounted.
I have 714 AP2's in the bag and though I hate to see them go, they need to be replaced. Thanks to this video, I'm deciding to pull the trigger on the T100 rather than the 718. Great video.
@@bwill_ Yes I did switch to the T100S and I love them. They feel as soft as the AP2s and look even a bit more sleek. My dynamic loft is lower now which is good. Took me a round or two to trust the yardage but it was an easy and familiar upgrade. Very happy.
Thanks for doing this video! I’m gaming AP3 with modus 120x but this answered my question that for the price AP2 all day for my iron change... would love to see AP3 vs T200 video! I’m not lacking for distance and my ball striking has improved drastically but curious if the forged faced in the T200 makes a difference v. The AP3
With these clubs and Titleist holding to the standard lofts, comparisons to say Taylormade with lofts nearly a club different is difficult. The AP2s look better than the T 100 IMO... better graphics on the back (as if it matters). But with the specs so close, I guess it becomes a consideration. To throw the AP2s in the garage and buy the T 100s ... there isnt enough there for me. The evolution of the clubs seems to be dwindling... the increments less and less. Just remember, Johnny Miller won the 1973 US Open with 1947 Macgregor irons. Great swing BTW.
I get that titleist wants to create a new line of irons, but they should be proud they built the AP line and have now built a more technological and advanced T line to take the classic AP line into the next several years
Hi Michael, I quit golf 5 years ago due to severe back injury and haven't touch a club until last week. I was using a custom fitted AP2 714 and was playing a 7 handicap. Now, I just want to be a leisure golfer with minimal practice and looking to get a new set. Can you recommend something like AP2/T100 (small, less offset, forged) but a little bit more forgiving? (I'm interested with Mizuno and let me know what model should I get)
Great review. I was wondering what your ball flight would be like if you didn't have your club 2 degree upright. I am 6'4" and it was suggested to me that i should have my clubs 2 degree up right and extended plus .5 to 1". I have always played plus .5. But standard settings. I use to hit the ball straight. Now after Cancer, hip replacement, knee replacement, now going to get my ankle replaced. i hit a big draw. sometimes a pull.I just dont know how to be consistent. Not sure if the shaft is to light? 105g. Or i need to get my clubs bent 2 degrees upright? Could be with all thats going on with my body. My timing is off. Thanks
Will be trying these out soon only because I had shortlisted the ap2 before I decided on and went with the tp760 which I am very happy with. But may look to add the new hybrid to my set to replace my srixons as want something with less offset and have the ts woods.
Hi Mike, nice review. I currently play 714 AP2. Does not look like its worth switching to the T100. I enjoyed your review of the Mizuno MP 20 irons. I think the problem is that you hit the ball so well, that there was not a big difference between the muscle back, MMC and HMB. Could you please compare the Mizuno MP 20 MMC and the Mizuno 919 forged? Great channel.
I really do enjoy these videos. I also know this is a small data set, but what I don’t like is how the data is displayed. I am sure there are bad shots, but I think to do small comparison like this everything should be included, or the criteria should be set on which data points are excluded. For instance, your fourth shot was missed pin high right and went 167 yards. That shot was not on the data grid. Was this because it brought the ball speed number down??? Interestingly enough, your next shot, is actually 4 shots later. Shot 14 -> Shot 18 on the quad. I understand the power of editing, but take a few seconds to explain why certain things are omitted.
Titleist are keen to say don't compare them to the AP range please ,then build the new T series looking the same as the AP irons .The new CB looks the best ,more like a Mizuno 919 tour ,I guess thats where they are aiming with that one .Would like to see the 919 tour up against the new CB Mike ,I got the 919 tours and they are surprisingly forgiving .
Really wanted to watch this video but I was just totally blinded by those legs. Turned down the brightness all the way but to no avail.... Kidding of course. Love Mike Newton’s vids. He should have 200k more subscribers at least! Soon enough I’m sure.
I'm currently playing the black AP2. Been playing them since March. The minimum increase in ball speed and distance increase wouldn't convince me to run out and purchase the T100.
I doubt it. Check out used AP2s on 2nd swing they have like new/mint clubs available. I've had mine for a few years bought them new best clubs I've owned.
@@user-dd1bb4tw4r I'm a 15 handicap but improving everyday. Just researching if I should get the t100s or save by getting used ap2s. (Second swing doesn't seem like a good deal to me. For their used prices, I would rather get new.) Have you tried the t100? If so how do they compare to the ap2? Why did you choose ap2?
@@stangetz534 I have never hit the T100s so I don't know how they feel but I imagine they feel similar to the AP2. When I chose the AP2 I tested the Titleist, Mizuno and the Callaway Apex. Wish I could've hit Wilson and Srixon but Wilson is impossible to get ahold of for LH and Srixon doesn't make LH Zs. I would say go to your local major club retailer and hit them all. Pricing is a major factor for most. Age has nothing to do with ball striking. You might lose length with age but ball striking is a different category. Jim Furyk was one of the shortest if not the shortest players on tour and he had a very successful career.
Have u loft and lied these clubs? The t100 could be 67 lie with the double plus and 33 degrees or loft. These tests are invalid due to manufacture tolerances
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I just got fitted last night and switched from the 2016 AP1 to the T100 "s" and i'm so excited for them to come in the mail. The change was just unbelievable between the two. I'm a 4.5 handicap so I didn't really need such big irons like the AP1.
Thanks for honesty and not hype.
Been waiting for some comparisons. Nice work as usual Mike.
Good review Michael. Only thing I’d like to see is swing speed, that way we could see if the ball speed was up purely due to the club, or maybe you were able to swing it quicker for some reason 👍🏻
MP20MMC v JPX Forged please. Great swing. Great channel.
Great honest review MNG. Like others im waiting for the MP20s :)
Great review! I currently play the 718 ap2 and even though I’m tempted to buy the T100, I don’t think it’s worth the money.
First time seeing this channel...this guy has a great swing!
Great video! Can you please do a AP1 vs TS300 and AP3 vs TS200. Thanks in advance
I played AP2s for a few years. Loved the feel and workabilty, but always felt about 1/2 club shorter. Switched to Mizuno this year and solved that, but these look like they've picked up a little yardage as well.
First one to do a comparison of thoese two irons. I hit a T100 the other day and it was too light compared to the MB/CB that I also hit. Hopefully that was a mistake by the bigbox store and they had grabbed a lighter fitting club.
Thanks for your review. Is it possible to compare the 620 CB to the T100? It seems like these two clubs are moving closer together. Both have the same weaker lofts (1° diff). The T100 now has the same top line as the 718 CB. The sole is now shaped similar for better turf interaction. The CB’s keep getting more forgiveness tech , similar to the
AP2/T100. Would be interesting to compare the numbers, feel, etc. Thanks for your time.
there is two pros that went back to the ap2s so im guessing the ap2s have a better feel maybe ?
Personally think the AP2 looks better. 620 cb and Mb look nice but think the mizuno mp 20 is where it’s at. Hope I’m not disappointed holding on for them
718 AP2'er here.... looks like i'm sticking with the AP2 unless i just got money to blow lol
Im in same boat. I think I would hunt down a used set of AP2s and put a real good shaft in them for less money
Why pay another $1400 for 5 yards. Hell nah.
@@user-dd1bb4tw4r The T100s's would push out more than 5 yards. granted stronger lofts, but center of gravity is also adjusted vs the T100 model
Thanks. I was wondering if i should leave the 718 for the t100
I'm planning on staying with the AP2. The 620CB look very nice but given the new release of irons, I may pick up a set of 718CB just because they'll be discounted.
718 cbs r really good looking 2. personally thinks that it looks cleaner than the 620 cb
718 ap2 are staying in the bag.
Michael, is there any difference in the clubhead weight.... ???
reason for the clubhead speed differences..
I have 714 AP2's in the bag and though I hate to see them go, they need to be replaced. Thanks to this video, I'm deciding to pull the trigger on the T100 rather than the 718. Great video.
Did you switch? I have 714 ap2s now too
@@bwill_ Yes I did switch to the T100S and I love them. They feel as soft as the AP2s and look even a bit more sleek. My dynamic loft is lower now which is good. Took me a round or two to trust the yardage but it was an easy and familiar upgrade. Very happy.
Thanks for doing this video! I’m gaming AP3 with modus 120x but this answered my question that for the price AP2 all day for my iron change... would love to see AP3 vs T200 video! I’m not lacking for distance and my ball striking has improved drastically but curious if the forged faced in the T200 makes a difference v. The AP3
AP3 v T200 coming soon!
Would be interested in a T100 v MP20 MMC, maybe with the MMC weakened to the same loft as the T100....Good review here though.
With these clubs and Titleist holding to the standard lofts, comparisons to say Taylormade with lofts nearly a club different is difficult.
The AP2s look better than the T 100 IMO... better graphics on the back (as if it matters). But with the specs so close, I guess it becomes a consideration.
To throw the AP2s in the garage and buy the T 100s ... there isnt enough there for me. The evolution of the clubs seems to be dwindling...
the increments less and less.
Just remember, Johnny Miller won the 1973 US Open with 1947 Macgregor irons.
Great swing BTW.
I get that titleist wants to create a new line of irons, but they should be proud they built the AP line and have now built a more technological and advanced T line to take the classic AP line into the next several years
Agreed. The AP line is one of the most successful irons in this century...as the old saying goes: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”
Could you do a AP3 vs T200. Curious if I should just get the AP3 when the price drops
Hi Michael, I quit golf 5 years ago due to severe back injury and haven't touch a club until last week. I was using a custom fitted AP2 714 and was playing a 7 handicap. Now, I just want to be a leisure golfer with minimal practice and looking to get a new set. Can you recommend something like AP2/T100 (small, less offset, forged) but a little bit more forgiving? (I'm interested with Mizuno and let me know what model should I get)
Titleist might not want people to mention AP clubs BUT everybody especially club golfers will so they need to get over it
I'll stay with the AP2s
Great review. I was wondering what your ball flight would be like if you didn't have your club 2 degree upright. I am 6'4" and it was suggested to me that i should have my clubs 2 degree up right and extended plus .5 to 1". I have always played plus .5. But standard settings. I use to hit the ball straight. Now after Cancer, hip replacement, knee replacement, now going to get my ankle replaced. i hit a big draw. sometimes a pull.I just dont know how to be consistent. Not sure if the shaft is to light? 105g. Or i need to get my clubs bent 2 degrees upright? Could be with all thats going on with my body. My timing is off. Thanks
Mine are plus 3 degrees , feels much more natural , i was never comfortable hitting regular irons, now i know why
Will be trying these out soon only because I had shortlisted the ap2 before I decided on and went with the tp760 which I am very happy with. But may look to add the new hybrid to my set to replace my srixons as want something with less offset and have the ts woods.
Hi Mike, nice review. I currently play 714 AP2. Does not look like its worth switching to the T100.
I enjoyed your review of the Mizuno MP 20 irons. I think the problem is that you hit the ball so well, that there was not a big difference between the muscle back, MMC and HMB.
Could you please compare the Mizuno MP 20 MMC and the Mizuno 919 forged?
Great channel.
I have 714 AP2, wonder if I should upgrade to T100
I really do enjoy these videos. I also know this is a small data set, but what I don’t like is how the data is displayed. I am sure there are bad shots, but I think to do small comparison like this everything should be included, or the criteria should be set on which data points are excluded. For instance, your fourth shot was missed pin high right and went 167 yards. That shot was not on the data grid. Was this because it brought the ball speed number down??? Interestingly enough, your next shot, is actually 4 shots later. Shot 14 -> Shot 18 on the quad. I understand the power of editing, but take a few seconds to explain why certain things are omitted.
Titleist are keen to say don't compare them to the AP range please ,then build the new T series looking the same as the AP irons .The new CB looks the best ,more like a Mizuno 919 tour ,I guess thats where they are aiming with that one .Would like to see the 919 tour up against the new CB Mike ,I got the 919 tours and they are surprisingly forgiving .
Was your clubhead speed slightly faster with the T100?
Thanks for the great review. The dispersion looks better with T100 based on your sample testing.
What was the club speed? Without that info, the ball speed data value is limited.
not really, you only need ball speed and spin to work how well struck the shot was.
The irons i just bought vs the the irons i was going to wait for..... my wallet is going to hate me
Please review the new Mizuno!
Once I receive them this exact videos will be coming your way
Havnt changed since ap2 714 basically 🤷♂️ I've looked at every test, but a pro wouldnt want it to go further for consistency
Couple yards further and similar spin will make the club a winner
Fabulous looking clubs. Clearly not a lot between them. Up to the individual on these...... #customfitworks
Really wanted to watch this video but I was just totally blinded by those legs. Turned down the brightness all the way but to no avail....
Kidding of course. Love Mike Newton’s vids. He should have 200k more subscribers at least! Soon enough I’m sure.
Haha
Need to show swing speed or efficiency #s in the data to show you weren’t just swinging the T100 faster to provide the higher ball speeds
I'm currently playing the black AP2. Been playing them since March. The minimum increase in ball speed and distance increase wouldn't convince me to run out and purchase the T100.
If I buy some used APs, will they spin less because they are older? Will I lose any playability due to age? Comments????
I doubt it. Check out used AP2s on 2nd swing they have like new/mint clubs available. I've had mine for a few years bought them new best clubs I've owned.
@@user-dd1bb4tw4r I'm a 15 handicap but improving everyday. Just researching if I should get the t100s or save by getting used ap2s. (Second swing doesn't seem like a good deal to me. For their used prices, I would rather get new.) Have you tried the t100? If so how do they compare to the ap2? Why did you choose ap2?
@@stangetz534 I have never hit the T100s so I don't know how they feel but I imagine they feel similar to the AP2. When I chose the AP2 I tested the Titleist, Mizuno and the Callaway Apex. Wish I could've hit Wilson and Srixon but Wilson is impossible to get ahold of for LH and Srixon doesn't make LH Zs. I would say go to your local major club retailer and hit them all. Pricing is a major factor for most. Age has nothing to do with ball striking. You might lose length with age but ball striking is a different category. Jim Furyk was one of the shortest if not the shortest players on tour and he had a very successful career.
Have u loft and lied these clubs? The t100 could be 67 lie with the double plus and 33 degrees or loft. These tests are invalid due to manufacture tolerances
Nice
Looks like an AP2 to me.
Old one will be cheaper end off no brainer
So looking at stats keep your money in your pocket and keep with AP2. Not worth the change
Pretty much the same....since 2012
Exactly
More left side...