The forest finn flag is nearly the same as the karelinian flag in Russia (colours, scandinavian cross, but without the black center part) and the colours of tavast icehockey team Ilves, which I support. I am 2nd gen swede finn who moved back to Finland, so I can relate with much of the topics living through the mentioned experiences firsthand. 🖐✡✝️♾0️⃣🐻Many in my family moved also to US, Canada. Some stayed and others moved back. I wish you a good journey to find your heritage and genialogy, roots. 👍😌Language is though the key to unlock finnish culture, finnish local cultures, archives..Gottlund got it right there.
Its interesting to see this video. A few years back I did a DNA test and found out I apparently was 17% Finnish. Asked my grandfather about this and he told me I was a part of the old forrest finn families. He then also gave me some names to look for, and I have later found out that I am a direct descendant of the Raisainen family, as well as Lehmoinen and Mullikka. My great great great great (yes 4) grandfather was Peder Pålsen Raisainen (also called Hallsjø Pekka). He apparently went to Sweden on his old days according to the storys. But his father again (so 5 greats from me) is buried at the Church on "Svullrya" and there is a funny story about his gravestone. I have been there and seen it, and according to the stories (if they are to be believed), he (Pål Olsen Râisäinen) apparently found this stone in the forrest before his death, and tok it upon him to bring it home. Ment as being used in the future as a gravestone for him and his wife. But on his way home he dropped the stone and it cracked. This gravestone can still be seen at the church, and it has the crack visible. After learning about my family from the area, I`ve kind of wanted to "move back" there as I am somewhat of an introverted guy appreciating a quiet place with not too many neighbours. And maybe actually living in the forrest. I currently own a cabin in a nearby town (Våler) that I bought from my grandfather a few years back. But this is not related to the old family at all.
Just little fact for those who have family/ DNA connection to Finland. If you can prove your Finnish heritage, you will be automatically given the right to live, work and study in Finland with the same rights as Finnish citizens. Many young people take this opportunity to finish education as it’s free. So Finland has not forgotten you. 😉
Thank you for your interest. Not sure if you are asking this of Finlandia Foundation National or the Forest Finns. Finlandia Foundation was founded in 1953 to connect Finnish Americans in the U.S. If you have questions about the Forest Finns, please go the that Facebook page; we are independent organizations.
Most Finns when they got to North-America arrived at NewYork and form there migrated to mainly Minnesota, Wisconsin & Michigan area there for the most records and data can be found in USA. Also it's also matter of funding for the longest time federal government of USA gave grants to Finlandia foundation Canada has never made similar funding available and the small communities in for example Nova Scotia or Ontario were able to self fund stuff like this.
To give voice? It seems to imply thinking less of a group's ability to communicate, which paradoxically has been espoused by the Foundation because of the importance of what they will communicate and/or because you don't see them as having their own voices without your channel. Or potentially as if some grandiose sacrifice has been made by the foundation to have them on its channel to begin with. If that's the case, perhaps you are underestimating your audience's interest in the topic?
Not certain of your point. This channel is an opportunity to share information from the sources that willingly choose to participate, for those who wish to view the programs.
@FinlandiaFoundationNational This is not a forum designed for angementative debate. As such, I never attempted nor am I inclined to attempt to argue with you over points real or imagined. That said, good luck, as I can only imagine taking up the responsibility of attempting to give voices to people who obviously already have them keeps you very busy. Further, perhaps next time you may find it a net positive experience to instead express profuse gratitude for such an opportunity to convey knowledge, similar to how at least I am grateful despite how embarrassed I am for, but also not on behalf of the Foundation, insofar as how they were introduced, to be able to learn more about my fellow citizen's life stories. Again, good luck and kiitos. That said, I am finished with this discussion. No puns intended whatsoever.
does Harkonnen from dune have any real etymology?:) hark at least is a unique root word present from basque thru old norse to hittite, meaning light/holy/white (possibly distant cognate of sámi 'vilges'=white/ fungarian 'világos'=bright?)
Thank you for your interest. You may want to take your questions to the experts via the Forest Finns Facebook page; we are just the host for their program.
No it is not known. Fiction is fiction. Author just got inspired of the finnish name, which he then butchered to Harkonnen in his book. Härkönen comes from finnish root word Härkä=Oxen. With the -nen addition in finnish means basically a small, smallish oxen ie. probably somebody who was hardworking, stubborn or a man with temper originally. The -nen addition was used in eastern Finland that is Savolax and Karelia. In eastern Finland family names was inherited like nowadays is common practice. In western Finland people did not have fixed family names. Yet eastern finns or somebody with this heritage and with family name Härkönen are most probably relatives wit each other.
being a descendant of southern scandinavian exodus , from what I found so far , danish or south sweden our roots and background are scattred so thin over the saxons ,romans, slavs etc. We had the advantage to mix our blood with stronger genetic variants... altough still a bit different of our east countries .. we are mostly european now. We learn every day that the population moved every so given time territory .... and we have to remember , it's not only genes that make the person . the american approuch is very narrow orientated , as like nothing changed in thousends of years...
Thank you. Very informative and interesting 🌸
Love from Finland.
Top show. Plenty of relevant info for 'neighbours' of finns . Applauds to FFN for promoting /sharing the platform 💎 🇦🇺🇫🇮
The forest finn flag is nearly the same as the karelinian flag in Russia (colours, scandinavian cross, but without the black center part) and the colours of tavast icehockey team Ilves, which I support.
I am 2nd gen swede finn who moved back to Finland, so I can relate with much of the topics living through the mentioned experiences firsthand. 🖐✡✝️♾0️⃣🐻Many in my family moved also to US, Canada. Some stayed and others moved back.
I wish you a good journey to find your heritage and genialogy, roots. 👍😌Language is though the key to unlock finnish culture, finnish local cultures, archives..Gottlund got it right there.
Its interesting to see this video. A few years back I did a DNA test and found out I apparently was 17% Finnish. Asked my grandfather about this and he told me I was a part of the old forrest finn families. He then also gave me some names to look for, and I have later found out that I am a direct descendant of the Raisainen family, as well as Lehmoinen and Mullikka.
My great great great great (yes 4) grandfather was Peder Pålsen Raisainen (also called Hallsjø Pekka). He apparently went to Sweden on his old days according to the storys. But his father again (so 5 greats from me) is buried at the Church on "Svullrya" and there is a funny story about his gravestone. I have been there and seen it, and according to the stories (if they are to be believed), he (Pål Olsen Râisäinen) apparently found this stone in the forrest before his death, and tok it upon him to bring it home. Ment as being used in the future as a gravestone for him and his wife. But on his way home he dropped the stone and it cracked. This gravestone can still be seen at the church, and it has the crack visible.
After learning about my family from the area, I`ve kind of wanted to "move back" there as I am somewhat of an introverted guy appreciating a quiet place with not too many neighbours. And maybe actually living in the forrest. I currently own a cabin in a nearby town (Våler) that I bought from my grandfather a few years back. But this is not related to the old family at all.
This is pretty cool, we're always curious as to what's going on across the pond ;)
Regards from Finland!
Just little fact for those who have family/ DNA connection to Finland. If you can prove your Finnish heritage, you will be automatically given the right to live, work and study in Finland with the same rights as Finnish citizens. Many young people take this opportunity to finish education as it’s free. So Finland has not forgotten you. 😉
Wow that's a great policy
As a Canadian. I want to know more about our Scandinavian cousins.
Why do you ignore Canadian Finns?
you must be a real nordic character . judging the cake the first attempt to create . I recognise that
Thank you for your interest.
Not sure if you are asking this of Finlandia Foundation National or the Forest Finns. Finlandia Foundation was founded in 1953 to connect Finnish Americans in the U.S.
If you have questions about the Forest Finns, please go the that Facebook page; we are independent organizations.
Most Finns when they got to North-America arrived at NewYork and form there migrated to mainly Minnesota, Wisconsin & Michigan area there for the most records and data can be found in USA. Also it's also matter of funding for the longest time federal government of USA gave grants to Finlandia foundation Canada has never made similar funding available and the small communities in for example Nova Scotia or Ontario were able to self fund stuff like this.
To give voice? It seems to imply thinking less of a group's ability to communicate, which paradoxically has been espoused by the Foundation because of the importance of what they will communicate and/or because you don't see them as having their own voices without your channel. Or potentially as if some grandiose sacrifice has been made by the foundation to have them on its channel to begin with. If that's the case, perhaps you are underestimating your audience's interest in the topic?
Not certain of your point. This channel is an opportunity to share information from the sources that willingly choose to participate, for those who wish to view the programs.
@FinlandiaFoundationNational This is not a forum designed for angementative debate. As such, I never attempted nor am I inclined to attempt to argue with you over points real or imagined. That said, good luck, as I can only imagine taking up the responsibility of attempting to give voices to people who obviously already have them keeps you very busy. Further, perhaps next time you may find it a net positive experience to instead express profuse gratitude for such an opportunity to convey knowledge, similar to how at least I am grateful despite how embarrassed I am for, but also not on behalf of the Foundation, insofar as how they were introduced, to be able to learn more about my fellow citizen's life stories. Again, good luck and kiitos.
That said, I am finished with this discussion. No puns intended whatsoever.
does Harkonnen from dune have any real etymology?:) hark at least is a unique root word present from basque thru old norse to hittite, meaning light/holy/white (possibly distant cognate of sámi 'vilges'=white/ fungarian 'világos'=bright?)
Thank you for your interest. You may want to take your questions to the experts via the Forest Finns Facebook page; we are just the host for their program.
No it is not known. Fiction is fiction. Author just got inspired of the finnish name, which he then butchered to Harkonnen in his book.
Härkönen comes from finnish root word Härkä=Oxen. With the -nen addition in finnish means basically a small, smallish oxen ie. probably somebody who was hardworking, stubborn or a man with temper originally.
The -nen addition was used in eastern Finland that is Savolax and Karelia. In eastern Finland family names was inherited like nowadays is common practice. In western Finland people did not have fixed family names.
Yet eastern finns or somebody with this heritage and with family name Härkönen are most probably relatives wit each other.
@@pr7049 (p.s i found the basque/hittite cognate watch?v=iycm8bg-WVk&t=1798s cheers)
being a descendant of southern scandinavian exodus , from what I found so far , danish or south sweden our roots and background are scattred so thin over the saxons ,romans, slavs etc. We had the advantage to mix our blood with stronger genetic variants... altough still a bit different of our east countries .. we are mostly european now. We learn every day that the population moved every so given time territory .... and we have to remember , it's not only genes that make the person . the american approuch is very narrow orientated , as like nothing changed in thousends of years...
Interesting