Got Faulken AT4 285/65/20s on my trail boss, absolutely unstoppable in the snow. We just got 14 plus inches and I was one of very few on the road. Anyone that tells you they are not good in weather has never driven them in daily life.
Im subscribed to them as well and that test blew my mind. I was alil upset bcuz alot of ppl in the comments were saying we arent buying them after this test and some ppl that just bought them are doubting what they have and it was not a fair shake. Im glad you came out with this video!
When you see apples to apples comparisons, you cant really defend the outcome in your favour. They look good but all the comparisons are bad for these tyres. Its like going off these comparisons, if you like the AT4W, you'll love the KO3..
Bud go watch TFL’s test video before you talk about their opinion. They just collected starting and stopping data between the major tires on the same vehicle. If data outcomes offend you because you don’t like the outcome, that’s on you. Go watch the video he’s referenced
TFL had the tires on the same vehicle, mounted on the same model of factory wheels, going down the same road with the same driver on the same day with the same measuring tape. Now, I don’t know what it would take to convince you, @bullboss, but TFL’s results with this are legit.
@@-zerocool-I think it’s got something to do with the footprint to vehicle weight ratio, and the fact that they don’t hold snow in the tread like some other tread patterns. Everyone who loves them has them on a big truck or they have a Subaru that can’t have big tires. If the tires are big compared to the weight (like a Jeep on 33” tires is what I think TFL had) then they can’t press into the hard pack, to get grip without there already being snow in the tread. If they sink they make good traction, but I’m still looking for videos that make a comparison, other than TFL’s video
The AT4W’s are a decent tire when I used them in a work truck through blizzard conditions, but I put KO3’s on my own truck and they just amaze me. The amount of improvement they made over the KO2 makes them better than both the AT3W and the AT4W in every winter condition I put them in. It doesn’t make the AT4W a bad tire, it just means it is no longer the best AT tire for these conditions, at least when new. Maybe the story changes when both tires have 40k miles on them.
Thanks for the video, nice truck, beautiful property. I recently bought this same tire for my gmc though I won't need them for 30k miles or more, I was concerned about prices going up. I just stack em in the living room as a conversation piece till then. Great to see them doing well in the snow. Stay warm/safe & thanks again.
You talked about The falcon, well peak 4W. We talked about all the things I was curious about. I’m glad you’re please of them. Great to hear go get Taks from the heart and soul but his experiences Giving his advice to others and opinion great job
Thank you sir. I'm in the market for a new set of AT's, and I have been eyeing the Falkens. I have read the same as you about them in snow applications. Thank you for doing a real video under true conditions. I'll be buying the Falkens for my truck.
I haven't been on anything too terrible so far being near NW Ohio where that non-fluffy stuff is usually what we get, but my AT4W on my BSB have been handling extremely well, even in rain. And I'm coming from the scorpions that Should be better, theoretically. Weight isn't as noticeable as others were reviewing or predicting either.
The tires used in the TFL’s comparission were 285/70 R17, but 10 Ply, load E and 126/123 S, and the Falken was the HD versión, which is not expected to be used in a car of 4.000 pounds, more or less. The Falken AT4W HD versions are focussed for HD use…. As towing or HD trucks, and its compound is harder.
I have them and they are absolutely great!!! I tow often and heavy. Ride quality, handling, noise level, and fuel mileage are all better than the nitto ridge grappler I was running. Even the kids mentioned that the truck wasn't as loud and they didn't bounce around as much in the back seat when towing.
Do they have better wet weather traction than the ridge grappler? Mine have around 6/32" of tread left and they are terrible in the snow and wet for me
We have them on our Subaru Outback in Colorado. Our “driveway” is a mile and a half jeep road. They get tested in gravel, mud, ice, and snow. They are great.
Here in the mountains of Montana, I’m never running anything except Duratracs. I never really liked Goodyear tires all that much, but these tires are impressive. I’ve run just about every off road/ snow/mud tire out there, some OK, some not, but these have never failed me.
@@mtnmnkymilitia I’ve heard they don’t hold onto snow and have a harder rubber. And then every other person who talks about them says they’re fantastic in the snow. I can’t make heads or tails of it, have you noticed that they’re weak on certain kinds of snow?
I have them. Finally got them in a storm and drove them through fresh snow, ice and packed snow. They are better than AT3Ws in the fresh snow (my last tire) but I would say only slightly worse on ice. I also had my tires fully inflated to around 40psi so I’m sure if I lowered down to 25-28 they would’ve probably been much better on the ice.
I had the at3 on a Raptor. Best tire I’ve ever owned . No issues driving though over a foot of NY snow . The stock BFG didn’t do so good . I’ll be putting Falkens on my Tremor . the stock Generals suck in the snow or on wet grass !
I'm glad to see your review. I saw the TFL vid as well and wish they had put a second set of AT4W on that jeep just to see if there was a difference along with put them on a different truck/SUV/Jeep. I also would have like to see them air down just to see if there was a difference, since they were running psi recommended by jeep for a different tire size and I'm pretty sure that blue jeep didn't come with LT tires, which makes a difference. Also, most the comments about the tires being heavy seem to be from smaller/SUV people trying to run LT tires on vehicles smaller than a half ton truck. It would be awesome if you could also make a video with these tires doing a stop and go test on a snow packed road just like they did. Awesome video btw!
They put a brand new set on the Jeep. When they contacted Falken, Falken said with a brand new tire there is a coating on the tire from production. The tire has to be driven so the slippery production coating will be fully removed before you take it in snow to perform at its potential.
@@ShelbyvsViper no there is NO coating. This is from there pinned comment on that video We reached out to Falken for comment regarding break in procedure for the AT4w: The word from Falken is that there’s no coating or residue on the Wildpeaks from the factory and no break-in period to set them up for maximum traction in all conditions. I wish they had tried a second set of the at4 just to see if it was a bad set.
I’ve got a set of the AT3Ws on my ‘24 Chevy HD. Worked on 6” deep powder over an ice cap gravel road at -15 in North Dakota. They even worked well on black ice covered interstate across Montana. I was impressed.
I have them on my 4Runner and just climbed up the side of a mountain with 8-10” of snow on the ground and never lost traction or slid. They performed extremely good in the snow.
There’s so many variables when it comes to traction, even with snow cause not all snow is the same. My most recent tire purchase is a set of Pirelli Scorpion all terrain plus tires on my ram 1500. Price was good and so far no complaints.
So I was researching the best AT tires for 2 months, every single day, just watching every video on here…I bought the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. I love them! These AT4W were in my mind as well. I agree, you can’t trust a lot of reviews because people are biased, sponsored or have their own opinions which could have inaccurate information. One thing I love about the Baja Boss is at 100 mph in my F-150 I can’t hear them 😂 I’m sure any premium AT tire will work for most people.
TFL didn’t do anything wrong. Like someone else said above, it is compacted snow/ice where it suffers. The Toyo open Country AT3 is just like that. In the type of snow that you were using, even summer tires are going to stop.
I had Sumitomo tires on my 2006 Charger Daytona and it was the worst experience for tires. The car was driven normally and not beat on but after the first rotation at the dealer my wife told me that the whole car was vibrating. So I told her to take her car back and have the dealership put on Michelins. Didn’t have a problem after that mess. So if you’re having a good experience that’s awesome but myself I’m a Michelin man. Great Video Thank You 🙏
I have to agree with you, @4-LOW -- I was very surprised at the TFL video as their results do not match my experience in any way. I have run Toyo AT2/3, Amp Terrain Pro, KO2, Nokian Outpost AT and now the A/T4W, of which they easily stand up in all kinds of winter conditions. Calgary, AB Canada is home for me...we have a brutal range of snow/ice/temp ranging from 0*C (32*F) down to -40*C (-40*F). The Falken's compound is still soft at -25 (coldest I've seen with them this year), pliable by hand on outer lugs. For those that have not driven in -25*C (-13*F) or colder, the road and anything on it fundamentally changes in ice condition where even Nokian Hakkapaliitta and Bridgestone Blizzak car snow tires struggle (arguably the 2 best winters for extreme conditions -- car): I'm still impressed. For reference: 2023 Ram 1500 with LT275x60R20. Thanks for the GREAT set of videos :)
I put the AT4 on my Excursion 4x4 and I absolutely love them. People also need to pay attention to tire pressure because that affects performance depending on the type of driving.
Snow comes in all varieties. Some snow has more moisture then other parts. Where I live in Wyoming the snow is really dry, I drive to the other side of the pass and the snow is loaded with moisture. I’ve drove in 3’ fresh dry powder pushing snow up to the hood. Other times I’ve struggled in 1’ of heavy wet snow. Yes, virgin snow has a lot more traction than packed snow.
I had the AT3’s on my GX. My experience was not the same as most comments here. I run dedicated snow tires for this very reason. I will add that duratracs were the best performer for a non dedicated snow tire in all my years of snow driving in Bend Oregon and daily mountain pass driving due to work.
TFL did good in that video, however, tires are tricky, it is very dependent on vehicles and drivers as well, as long as you know your vehicle and the road condition and drive accordingly, falken should be fine. with that said, I do think the KO3 tires I have is going to be slightly better in snow at least compared to falken.
Agreed! Also, in subsequent videos I noticed they had the extra-heavy-duty version of the tire, which isn’t really a good fit for a 2-door Wrangler. It’s about 5000# too light. I also wonder if Falcon has a different rubber compound with the different load ranges.
Mine were good on flats but struggled going up steep incline unles i gunned in 4 low but always end up slipping and stopping. I finally invested in snow tires and it was night and day difference. I think the ATW are great tired but switching out in the winter to snow is game changer for braking, steering and inclines …
I have a 2013 Audi A4 quattro and gotten some Falken 245 45 zr 17 love how they look and got to test them in the snow this week felt like a tank going tru snow
Last year I was the first tracks on our dirt road here in CO. 18in of fresh on top previous 10in from the day earlier. No problems with the AT3s on my 2500.
One day i hope to have a lot of land and a new nice diesel truck. We had 1 day of snow down in Georgia. I took out my 05 Suburban Z71 on cheap AT tires. Put it in auto 4wd and didnt have an issue at all. I was surprised to see a newer Lincoln SUV had spun out and went into the grass. Im going to either get a 99-11 Super Duty or 00-06 Duramax.
AT3W/AT4W may be good AT tires (I have brand new AT3W on my 4Runner), but they are utter crap in winter. As soon as there is packed snow, I can't even exit a parking lot due to the smallest incline it has at the exit - they spin in place too easily, and I have to use inertia. Riding a truck in a fresh shows nothing, because that's not what causes troubles in winter.
I agree. I had Falcon wild peak tires and they were about the worst tires I have ever had for winter time traction. Couldn’t go anywhere unless in 4 wheel drive and even then at times I would just sit and spin in 2 inches of snow. Couldn’t stop, turn or go. I’ve changed tires now and it’s like a completely different pickup.
An oddity with tires is how, in different weight vehicles, and different sizes, the results vary. Tires that work so well on my Ram 1500 with a camper shell, don't work the same on my wife's Ram 2500 carrying our camper. So just enjoy what works for your rig!
I've seen many reviews on these Falken's, and they all love them, just like you! Whoever is saying they're no good in the snow, could possibly be biased, or just can't drive too well! 😂
It’s usually the people doing 0-60 tests in the snow. Which doesn’t apply to real life applications. To the guys like the video here using them in a real life application loves them.
Almost got the falkens for my 2500hd Chevy. Ended up with continental at since I had on my last vehicle and loved them and do 99%road and towing.and got 70k out of them and great in sand. Should check them out. Seem like great tires though.
My buddy is running these on his Chevy 2500 and say's they are the best tire he has ran in 50 give or take year's. Interstate, wear is excellent, noise is very low if at all, best tire he has run in snow that is all terrain. His truck has over 200,000 miles on it and he say's as long as he can buy this tire, he will run it on his vehicles. Pulls equipment, materials on trailer, boxed in trailer etc.
I was supposed to get this tires with the vision flow wheels but the TFL video made me not to. I got the toyo at3 but I really like the looks of this tires. I love the vision ojos and also the nemesis on your tundra!
How do they compare to the old Duratracts? I don’t like their new design so these AT4Ws might be my next tire. See how they do on my dad’s truck coming across the country this winter with several trips.
I have a set of Goodyear Territory MT with the vertical and horizontal sipping on outer lugs, (from what I've heard there are a few different types?). I'm running 36 to 38 lbs with about 5,000 miles on them and so far so good. Some road noise, handles good on dry, wet and mmy drive is pretty bad steep with no run. So far they have done good. On a Ram 1500. Negative is they carry road rock up to interstate speeds!? So hard on a paint job. Kentucky also. Predicting 4-6 more inches on top of all this snow and ice we have! Not to mention single digital weather!😅 Good times
For someone who has the option to try the Baja Boss AT tyres in the US, you should try them before saying the Falkens are the best AT tyre, they top every comparison and its a shame nobody else in the world can get them.
When TFL did their tests, the Falkens were brand new, no wear at all. Therefore, they were not even broken in and still had the coating from the factory. Plus, very high pressure as well. Was a total unfair test. And why would they put a heavy LT tire on a light weight Jeep? I smell a rat somewhere and someone had a bias against them. Or the other tire mfgs were lining someone's pockets
Without rewatching the video, I'm fairly certain TFL said they had contacted FALKEN with the results of the test prior to releasing the video and FALKEN gave them the ok to release it. I think TFL was genuinely surprised by the test results, which may not always be the case but on that day and under the conditions they were testing they obviously fell short for some reason. Definitely doesn't mean that the tire isn't any good, but no tire is perfect.
I questioned that TFL test as soon as I saw it, it just didn't seem right. I have a set of the at4s on my 2500hd. So far I love them. Bro has a new set of the ko3's, they seem good but no way are they any better than the at4s.
The AT4's are a stiffer rubber compound than the older AT3. For lighter weight vehicles they my no be the best choice. It has been clearly stated by Falken they wanted to compete more in the commercial fleet market. Oilfield trucks pound the crap out of tires and I think Falken focused more on this type of market use rather than the every day driver.
You didn’t do a back to back comparison like TFL did. TFL didn’t say they were no good they just said the KO3 and the Firestone were better on that day in the snow. I know people that love Nitto’s and they are the worst tires ever according to tire rack and CR.
Im considering these for a 1995 F350 2WD DRW, if not these what would you guys recommend?? I dont do much hauling but man this truck fucking sucks in the winter lol
Wide tires do worse in snow than narrower tires. That said, I didn’t think the Wildpeaks AT3W didn’t go that well in snow. Same vehicle, BFG AT K02 performed better. Just my experience.
Not going to even bother with any disputes as marketing or preferences as most of from a perspective based upon their case use. Yet snow will be different at different temperatures and changes with them as well. Tire weight can be an important factor for lighter vehicles as they may not have the same torque and horsepower as heavier trucks as vehicle weight is another factor itself. Vehicle weight is considered in tire compound just as much as tread pattern class. i.e. "AT vs MT vs RT" While some folks really need to realize a truck is for hauling and work duty thus if they want economy then drive the car. The number of people not getting off duty driving to Costco to go shopping amuses me. But this is just my perspective with humor. In closing, each person should be selecting a tire for their intended and weather use for their region. aka "one size fits all, need not apply"
Which one? Newest model or old model? I have the older model and love them but they only do best in compact snow. Dusting/ice they’re sketchy with lol.
Ive got the AT4Ws on my Frontier that I camp out of and they're incredible. I live in Salt Lake and am not worried about snow at all. Ive been in all conditions and they havent disappointed. Dirt, rock, mud, sand dunes, snow on and off road, all fantastic. No road noise and look great! Whatever happened with TFL had to be a fluke
After the performance of the AT3W I'm looking forward to the upgrade to the AT4W when they are worn out I've been in multiple environments of loose sand, loose snow, heavy rain, sandy mud, and even just dirt I had to push hard to make my 2013 Raptor slide and spin in most of those environments
I was not impressed with these. I put them on them my F150 and I think they are junk. Had 2 that were out of round and could not balance and had to be replaced. They are not great in heavy rain or snow. Should have went with something else. I would not recommend them at all.
What exact size did you have? I have 265/70R17 (4-ply SL) on my Silverado 1500. These are, by the far, the most competent rain tire I have ever driven with.
Got Faulken AT4 285/65/20s on my trail boss, absolutely unstoppable in the snow. We just got 14 plus inches and I was one of very few on the road. Anyone that tells you they are not good in weather has never driven them in daily life.
Im subscribed to them as well and that test blew my mind. I was alil upset bcuz alot of ppl in the comments were saying we arent buying them after this test and some ppl that just bought them are doubting what they have and it was not a fair shake. Im glad you came out with this video!
I just put AT4 35's on my F 250 and they work great. You really can't trust reviewers anymore, most have their own agenda and preferences.
TFL had them on a jeep going downhill...? It's different
When you see apples to apples comparisons, you cant really defend the outcome in your favour. They look good but all the comparisons are bad for these tyres. Its like going off these comparisons, if you like the AT4W, you'll love the KO3..
Bud go watch TFL’s test video before you talk about their opinion. They just collected starting and stopping data between the major tires on the same vehicle. If data outcomes offend you because you don’t like the outcome, that’s on you. Go watch the video he’s referenced
TFL had the tires on the same vehicle, mounted on the same model of factory wheels, going down the same road with the same driver on the same day with the same measuring tape. Now, I don’t know what it would take to convince you, @bullboss, but TFL’s results with this are legit.
@@-zerocool-I think it’s got something to do with the footprint to vehicle weight ratio, and the fact that they don’t hold snow in the tread like some other tread patterns. Everyone who loves them has them on a big truck or they have a Subaru that can’t have big tires. If the tires are big compared to the weight
(like a Jeep on 33” tires is what I think TFL had)
then they can’t press into the hard pack, to get grip without there already being snow in the tread. If they sink they make good traction, but I’m still looking for videos that make a comparison, other than TFL’s video
The AT4W’s are a decent tire when I used them in a work truck through blizzard conditions, but I put KO3’s on my own truck and they just amaze me. The amount of improvement they made over the KO2 makes them better than both the AT3W and the AT4W in every winter condition I put them in. It doesn’t make the AT4W a bad tire, it just means it is no longer the best AT tire for these conditions, at least when new. Maybe the story changes when both tires have 40k miles on them.
Thanks for the video, nice truck, beautiful property. I recently bought this same tire for my gmc though I won't need them for 30k miles or more, I was concerned about prices going up. I just stack em in the living room as a conversation piece till then. Great to see them doing well in the snow. Stay warm/safe & thanks again.
You talked about The falcon, well peak 4W. We talked about all the things I was curious about. I’m glad you’re please of them. Great to hear go get Taks from the heart and soul but his experiences
Giving his advice to others and opinion great job
Thank you sir. I'm in the market for a new set of AT's, and I have been eyeing the Falkens. I have read the same as you about them in snow applications. Thank you for doing a real video under true conditions. I'll be buying the Falkens for my truck.
From what I can tell from other reviews, the conditions where the AT4Ws suffer is on compact snow and ice.
Extremely disappointing considering how the old AT3Ws performed…
That was the one area that used to set the AT3W’s apart from all the other AT tires it competed against ☹️
@Cloud30000that and the weight😂
I haven't been on anything too terrible so far being near NW Ohio where that non-fluffy stuff is usually what we get, but my AT4W on my BSB have been handling extremely well, even in rain. And I'm coming from the scorpions that Should be better, theoretically.
Weight isn't as noticeable as others were reviewing or predicting either.
Had them on my subaru forester for about 50k miles and have them on my toyota sienna awd. They're great in the Minnesota snow!
The tires used in the TFL’s comparission were 285/70 R17, but 10 Ply, load E and 126/123 S, and the Falken was the HD versión, which is not expected to be used in a car of 4.000 pounds, more or less. The Falken AT4W HD versions are focussed for HD use…. As towing or HD trucks, and its compound is harder.
Just saw that; idiotic on their part, E loads are already stiff as hell on that tiny jeep, not to mention they are 10 lb heavier than the KO3s
Great interview it’s good to hear from somebody from their knowledge. Thanks for the info.
I have them and they are absolutely great!!! I tow often and heavy. Ride quality, handling, noise level, and fuel mileage are all better than the nitto ridge grappler I was running. Even the kids mentioned that the truck wasn't as loud and they didn't bounce around as much in the back seat when towing.
Do they have better wet weather traction than the ridge grappler? Mine have around 6/32" of tread left and they are terrible in the snow and wet for me
Appreciate the info; these are on my short list! Thanks!
We have them on our Subaru Outback in Colorado. Our “driveway” is a mile and a half jeep road. They get tested in gravel, mud, ice, and snow. They are great.
Here in the mountains of Montana, I’m never running anything except Duratracs. I never really liked Goodyear tires all that much, but these tires are impressive. I’ve run just about every off road/ snow/mud tire out there, some OK, some not, but these have never failed me.
Duratracs are good for 2 things. Effortlessly tackling any road condition and making the worst road noise known to man
Im on my 8th set😂
My road is unmaintained and super sketchy in winter.
In CO
Have you tried their newest model? I love their older model but haven’t seen much on the new model.
@BoostedMK6 got the RT on my wifes rig, theyre awesome. A tad quieter, and kevlar. Our rd is snowpack 4 months out of the year
@@mtnmnkymilitia I’ve heard they don’t hold onto snow and have a harder rubber. And then every other person who talks about them says they’re fantastic in the snow. I can’t make heads or tails of it, have you noticed that they’re weak on certain kinds of snow?
I bought the AT3s not long before the 4s came out. Very happy with the tire in any weather condition
I have them. Finally got them in a storm and drove them through fresh snow, ice and packed snow. They are better than AT3Ws in the fresh snow (my last tire) but I would say only slightly worse on ice. I also had my tires fully inflated to around 40psi so I’m sure if I lowered down to 25-28 they would’ve probably been much better on the ice.
Still didn’t have any issues and I love the look and am very happy. It’s also one of the few tires making 255/85 r16.
I have these on my Ram Rebel. Great Traction in wet weather and unbelievably quiet. My mechanic has them on his truck hence why they are on mine.
We have the AT/4s on our 21 Bronco and they are great in the snow and off-road
Beautiful countryside you have down there. Thanks for sharing the video!
I've had these on my Toyota Land Cruiser for years they're awesome!
I had the at3 on a Raptor. Best tire I’ve ever owned . No issues driving though over a foot of NY snow . The stock BFG didn’t do so good . I’ll be putting Falkens on my Tremor . the stock Generals suck in the snow or on wet grass !
I'm glad to see your review. I saw the TFL vid as well and wish they had put a second set of AT4W on that jeep just to see if there was a difference along with put them on a different truck/SUV/Jeep. I also would have like to see them air down just to see if there was a difference, since they were running psi recommended by jeep for a different tire size and I'm pretty sure that blue jeep didn't come with LT tires, which makes a difference. Also, most the comments about the tires being heavy seem to be from smaller/SUV people trying to run LT tires on vehicles smaller than a half ton truck. It would be awesome if you could also make a video with these tires doing a stop and go test on a snow packed road just like they did. Awesome video btw!
They put a brand new set on the Jeep. When they contacted Falken, Falken said with a brand new tire there is a coating on the tire from production. The tire has to be driven so the slippery production coating will be fully removed before you take it in snow to perform at its potential.
@@ShelbyvsViper no there is NO coating. This is from there pinned comment on that video
We reached out to Falken for comment regarding break in procedure for the AT4w: The word from Falken is that there’s no coating or residue on the Wildpeaks from the factory and no break-in period to set them up for maximum traction in all conditions.
I wish they had tried a second set of the at4 just to see if it was a bad set.
I’ve got a set of the AT3Ws on my ‘24 Chevy HD. Worked on 6” deep powder over an ice cap gravel road at -15 in North Dakota. They even worked well on black ice covered interstate across Montana. I was impressed.
I have them on my 4Runner and just climbed up the side of a mountain with 8-10” of snow on the ground and never lost traction or slid. They performed extremely good in the snow.
Falken makes some of the best tires for the money on the market. Car & truck
Made by Sumitomo. Fallen is not a manufacturer, but just a corporate entity selling tires u der their name.
@ And I like Falken tires 😂
There’s so many variables when it comes to traction, even with snow cause not all snow is the same. My most recent tire purchase is a set of Pirelli Scorpion all terrain plus tires on my ram 1500. Price was good and so far no complaints.
So I was researching the best AT tires for 2 months, every single day, just watching every video on here…I bought the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. I love them! These AT4W were in my mind as well. I agree, you can’t trust a lot of reviews because people are biased, sponsored or have their own opinions which could have inaccurate information. One thing I love about the Baja Boss is at 100 mph in my F-150 I can’t hear them 😂 I’m sure any premium AT tire will work for most people.
agreed, if they are sponsored, they are bought and paid for , so I never believe those reviews.
Have you had a chance to look at or use the new Bridgestone Dueler Ascent tires? I'm seriously looking at them.
My 2024 willys jeep came with these tires, they work great 👍
TFL didn’t do anything wrong. Like someone else said above, it is compacted snow/ice where it suffers. The Toyo open Country AT3 is just like that. In the type of snow that you were using, even summer tires are going to stop.
I had Sumitomo tires on my 2006 Charger Daytona and it was the worst experience for tires. The car was driven normally and not beat on but after the first rotation at the dealer my wife told me that the whole car was vibrating. So I told her to take her car back and have the dealership put on Michelins. Didn’t have a problem after that mess. So if you’re having a good experience that’s awesome but myself I’m a Michelin man. Great Video Thank You 🙏
I have to agree with you, @4-LOW -- I was very surprised at the TFL video as their results do not match my experience in any way. I have run Toyo AT2/3, Amp Terrain Pro, KO2, Nokian Outpost AT and now the A/T4W, of which they easily stand up in all kinds of winter conditions. Calgary, AB Canada is home for me...we have a brutal range of snow/ice/temp ranging from 0*C (32*F) down to -40*C (-40*F). The Falken's compound is still soft at -25 (coldest I've seen with them this year), pliable by hand on outer lugs. For those that have not driven in -25*C (-13*F) or colder, the road and anything on it fundamentally changes in ice condition where even Nokian Hakkapaliitta and Bridgestone Blizzak car snow tires struggle (arguably the 2 best winters for extreme conditions -- car): I'm still impressed. For reference: 2023 Ram 1500 with LT275x60R20. Thanks for the GREAT set of videos :)
I run them on my 2001 Toyota Sequoia and love them on dry, wet, and snow conditions. On and off road, I'm happy.
I put the AT4 on my Excursion 4x4 and I absolutely love them. People also need to pay attention to tire pressure because that affects performance depending on the type of driving.
Snow comes in all varieties. Some snow has more moisture then other parts. Where I live in Wyoming the snow is really dry, I drive to the other side of the pass and the snow is loaded with moisture. I’ve drove in 3’ fresh dry powder pushing snow up to the hood. Other times I’ve struggled in 1’ of heavy wet snow. Yes, virgin snow has a lot more traction than packed snow.
I haven't been able to play in the snow with my at4's yet but in all other weather i have been happy with them!
I had the AT3’s on my GX. My experience was not the same as most comments here. I run dedicated snow tires for this very reason. I will add that duratracs were the best performer for a non dedicated snow tire in all my years of snow driving in Bend Oregon and daily mountain pass driving due to work.
Have them on my f350 got about 3k on them and so far so good. Snow, mud, on road. All around good tire.
Second set, great tire in heavy pnw snow!
TFL did good in that video, however, tires are tricky, it is very dependent on vehicles and drivers as well, as long as you know your vehicle and the road condition and drive accordingly, falken should be fine. with that said, I do think the KO3 tires I have is going to be slightly better in snow at least compared to falken.
Agreed! Also, in subsequent videos I noticed they had the extra-heavy-duty version of the tire, which isn’t really a good fit for a 2-door Wrangler. It’s about 5000# too light. I also wonder if Falcon has a different rubber compound with the different load ranges.
I have a set on my 20 f350 for 2 years now and 25k on them so far. I love them they are great all around tires.
Hell..no they are amazing. Barely even have to use 4x4 in snow with wrangler 4 door love them
Very helpful review, thanks!
Mine were good on flats but struggled going up steep incline unles i gunned in 4 low but always end up slipping and stopping. I finally invested in snow tires and it was night and day difference. I think the ATW are great tired but switching out in the winter to snow is game changer for braking, steering and inclines …
I have the AT3Ws on my Jeep and they're absolutely fantastic on snow and ice.
I have a 2013 Audi A4 quattro and gotten some Falken 245 45 zr 17 love how they look and got to test them in the snow this week felt like a tank going tru snow
Last year I was the first tracks on our dirt road here in CO. 18in of fresh on top previous 10in from the day earlier. No problems with the AT3s on my 2500.
Amazing in snow ice and rain.
One day i hope to have a lot of land and a new nice diesel truck. We had 1 day of snow down in Georgia. I took out my 05 Suburban Z71 on cheap AT tires. Put it in auto 4wd and didnt have an issue at all. I was surprised to see a newer Lincoln SUV had spun out and went into the grass. Im going to either get a 99-11 Super Duty or 00-06 Duramax.
AT3W/AT4W may be good AT tires (I have brand new AT3W on my 4Runner), but they are utter crap in winter. As soon as there is packed snow, I can't even exit a parking lot due to the smallest incline it has at the exit - they spin in place too easily, and I have to use inertia. Riding a truck in a fresh shows nothing, because that's not what causes troubles in winter.
I agree. I had Falcon wild peak tires and they were about the worst tires I have ever had for winter time traction. Couldn’t go anywhere unless in 4 wheel drive and even then at times I would just sit and spin in 2 inches of snow. Couldn’t stop, turn or go. I’ve changed tires now and it’s like a completely different pickup.
Glad to hear this, just had A/T4 305/55R20s mounted on my 17 Tundra here in Iowa. Was not impressed with the TerraGrappler G2's I took off
An oddity with tires is how, in different weight vehicles, and different sizes, the results vary. Tires that work so well on my Ram 1500 with a camper shell, don't work the same on my wife's Ram 2500 carrying our camper. So just enjoy what works for your rig!
Now that's enough common sense and civil reason out of you!
I've seen many reviews on these Falken's, and they all love them, just like you! Whoever is saying they're no good in the snow, could possibly be biased, or just can't drive too well! 😂
It’s usually the people doing 0-60 tests in the snow. Which doesn’t apply to real life applications. To the guys like the video here using them in a real life application loves them.
The A/T4W definitely came out on top in your head to head comparison, no question about that.
Beautiful scenery... Beautiful truck👍 Looking at putting these tires on my 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X and getting rid of the stock Hankooks.
Almost got the falkens for my 2500hd Chevy. Ended up with continental at since I had on my last vehicle and loved them and do 99%road and towing.and got 70k out of them and great in sand. Should check them out. Seem like great tires though.
My buddy is running these on his Chevy 2500 and say's they are the best tire he has ran in 50 give or take year's. Interstate, wear is excellent, noise is very low if at all, best tire he has run in snow that is all terrain. His truck has over 200,000 miles on it and he say's as long as he can buy this tire, he will run it on his vehicles. Pulls equipment, materials on trailer, boxed in trailer etc.
They tested E load wildpeaks, which are 10lbs heavier than the KO2s, on a tiny unloaded jeep. Not surprised.
good video Mr.
I do love my at3s.
the at4s show 2 pounds heavier.
I do like lighter but.
Nice truck....good luck
have a set of these on my WK2 and KL.. love them
I was supposed to get this tires with the vision flow wheels but the TFL video made me not to. I got the toyo at3 but I really like the looks of this tires. I love the vision ojos and also the nemesis on your tundra!
I have em on a 2012 Toyota FJ work great no issues whatsoever
Where you at in KY. We are getting hammered right now in south eastern ky
100 miles north of toronto (Petawawa)
about 3 inches in the bush. nobody out with snowmobiles. 🐇
i have a set of 35' on a f150 in northern ontario. no issues!
Nah, everyone wants the old AT3Ws back… Seems as though BFG kicked their butt this time around (in regards to KO3 vs AT4W).
How do they compare to the old Duratracts? I don’t like their new design so these AT4Ws might be my next tire. See how they do on my dad’s truck coming across the country this winter with several trips.
Ok what other brand new at tires have you ran in the snow in the exact same conditions?
I have a set of Goodyear Territory MT with the vertical and horizontal sipping on outer lugs, (from what I've heard there are a few different types?). I'm running 36 to 38 lbs with about 5,000 miles on them and so far so good. Some road noise, handles good on dry, wet and mmy drive is pretty bad steep with no run. So far they have done good. On a Ram 1500. Negative is they carry road rock up to interstate speeds!? So hard on a paint job.
Kentucky also.
Predicting 4-6 more inches on top of all this snow and ice we have! Not to mention single digital weather!😅 Good times
For someone who has the option to try the Baja Boss AT tyres in the US, you should try them before saying the Falkens are the best AT tyre, they top every comparison and its a shame nobody else in the world can get them.
I have the same truck, with stock wheels, can you tell me exact wheel size , offset and brand? Thayer, great review 👍🏼
It's too bad we couldn't collab. Couple of Super Duty Fords. You on the AT4W's and me on the KO3s.
When TFL did their tests, the Falkens were brand new, no wear at all. Therefore, they were not even broken in and still had the coating from the factory. Plus, very high pressure as well. Was a total unfair test. And why would they put a heavy LT tire on a light weight Jeep? I smell a rat somewhere and someone had a bias against them. Or the other tire mfgs were lining someone's pockets
Opinions on a good jeep tire 35.
Without rewatching the video, I'm fairly certain TFL said they had contacted FALKEN with the results of the test prior to releasing the video and FALKEN gave them the ok to release it. I think TFL was genuinely surprised by the test results, which may not always be the case but on that day and under the conditions they were testing they obviously fell short for some reason. Definitely doesn't mean that the tire isn't any good, but no tire is perfect.
What size are you rolling on?
Goo to know,thank you
I questioned that TFL test as soon as I saw it, it just didn't seem right. I have a set of the at4s on my 2500hd. So far I love them. Bro has a new set of the ko3's, they seem good but no way are they any better than the at4s.
They are big on clicks
The people liking the 10-ply A/T4Ws seem to have 3/4-ton vehicles. I'm wondering if the rubber isn't formulated for the extra weight.
Too bad you only drove in 4wd. Looking for some new tires for my 2012 f150 RWD & so far your review has me 50% sold!!!
The AT4's are a stiffer rubber compound than the older AT3. For lighter weight vehicles they my no be the best choice. It has been clearly stated by Falken they wanted to compete more in the commercial fleet market. Oilfield trucks pound the crap out of tires and I think Falken focused more on this type of market use rather than the every day driver.
Mine are great in snow, northern mi
Albertan here, I had them, wasn’t impressed.
Traction wasn’t great and wear was quick. Went back to Duratracs.
Also in Alberta. Do you have the Duratrac RT's? Do you find them loud?
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RT’s yes. I don’t even notice the noise.
The wind and engine are louder.
You didn’t do a back to back comparison like TFL did. TFL didn’t say they were no good they just said the KO3 and the Firestone were better on that day in the snow. I know people that love Nitto’s and they are the worst tires ever according to tire rack and CR.
They are good tires but suck with compact snow / ice.
Im considering these for a 1995 F350 2WD DRW, if not these what would you guys recommend?? I dont do much hauling but man this truck fucking sucks in the winter lol
Wide tires do worse in snow than narrower tires. That said, I didn’t think the Wildpeaks AT3W didn’t go that well in snow. Same vehicle, BFG AT K02 performed better. Just my experience.
Not going to even bother with any disputes as marketing or preferences as most of from a perspective based upon their case use. Yet snow will be different at different temperatures and changes with them as well. Tire weight can be an important factor for lighter vehicles as they may not have the same torque and horsepower as heavier trucks as vehicle weight is another factor itself. Vehicle weight is considered in tire compound just as much as tread pattern class. i.e. "AT vs MT vs RT" While some folks really need to realize a truck is for hauling and work duty thus if they want economy then drive the car. The number of people not getting off duty driving to Costco to go shopping amuses me. But this is just my perspective with humor. In closing, each person should be selecting a tire for their intended and weather use for their region. aka "one size fits all, need not apply"
Comparitively they are nowhere near a Goodyear Duratrac. Tried them. Not good enough for out west in the mountains.
That's good to hear as I have Duratracs on my Tundra.
Which one? Newest model or old model? I have the older model and love them but they only do best in compact snow. Dusting/ice they’re sketchy with lol.
@ I’m guessing older. Maybe they’re better now, but they were trash in icy conditions
Are you kidding 😂 it’s literally the best at made for snow
I dont get the bad reviews we recently got 13 inches of snow in a week in ohio. my 35x11.50r18 falken at4ws absolutely demolish the snow
Work just fine on my Tundra..
Without another direct comparison a testimonial means nothing.
I put those on my dually. I REALLY DON'T LIKE IT. I'll NOT recommend it.
Could you be a bit more specific?
One of the worst tires I've ever had after the bridgestone blizzaks
Ive got the AT4Ws on my Frontier that I camp out of and they're incredible. I live in Salt Lake and am not worried about snow at all.
Ive been in all conditions and they havent disappointed. Dirt, rock, mud, sand dunes, snow on and off road, all fantastic. No road noise and look great!
Whatever happened with TFL had to be a fluke
6,700 lb truck... 8K of steel? Isnt the body aluminum?
You sound like Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia.
TFL seems to get paid to say " K O 3" all the time..
It helps that the truck is over 8000 lbs.
This. The 10-ply A/T4Ws are marketed as "HD". I'm wondering if they're not meant to accompany a HD truck.
After the performance of the AT3W I'm looking forward to the upgrade to the AT4W when they are worn out
I've been in multiple environments of loose sand, loose snow, heavy rain, sandy mud, and even just dirt
I had to push hard to make my 2013 Raptor slide and spin in most of those environments
I was not impressed with these. I put them on them my F150 and I think they are junk. Had 2 that were out of round and could not balance and had to be replaced. They are not great in heavy rain or snow. Should have went with something else. I would not recommend them at all.
What exact size did you have? I have 265/70R17 (4-ply SL) on my Silverado 1500. These are, by the far, the most competent rain tire I have ever driven with.